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UK: Nintendo Switch sales currently above XB1 for the year, but way below PS4
- Thread starter Bazry
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We see the brand declining a lot outside of US though.
Dyson Industries
Banned
Weird, this forum was full of people from 2013 onwards stating that the UK was an Xbox stronghold.
Hmm. Guess not.
I was being a bit hyperbole there but my point was more that XB1X isn't going to help things after launch period given where XB1S is atm + what Pif said above.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
How about just saying it's strong console wise for both. It's still xbox's second strongest terriority.
Yeah, Xbox games are still consistently in the top 10.
Wonder how much more it's sold then Xbox though.
fastest finger
Member
MS had marketing rights last year, so on FIFA 17 launch day Sony cleared OG PS4 stocks for £150 each and had retailers give away free copies of FIFA 17 with them.
The Abominable Snowman
Member
Did the 3DS do bad in the UK in its early days? I thought it did pretty well early on in the UK (and fell off a cliff after the fourth year) but everyones skipping mention of it to go back to DS and Wii.
The issue is software not hardware. That's the main reason for the decline in the US and U.K. They only put 1 game out and had 2 lackluster bundles all year. The fall bundles, X and seemingly better software for 2018 will fox a lot of the problem
I mean, there was that whole Ambassador price cut.
CrimsonEclipse
Member
Their 2018 is looking good, however a lot will rid on if those games that do come out are actually good. If the software is solid, I can see a nice 2018 bounce back, but that remains to be seen.
It's all but guaranteed.
butman
Member
No lies detected.
chromatic9
Member
Useless in regards to Nintendo simply because of stock issues.
For MS this is not new. Simply confirms what has been going on since the launch of this gen of consoles. For those who like console gaming this is bad news. If it continues MS will walk away and leave you with only one vendor (nintendo is in its own world for now) with no competition other than the PC. MS will probably try to move the brand over to PC only. Still wonder if they will ever buy or team with GoG or whomever and build a real store.
Competition drives things forward and controls price. Really should look at this as bad news for console gaming in general.
For MS this is not new. Simply confirms what has been going on since the launch of this gen of consoles. For those who like console gaming this is bad news. If it continues MS will walk away and leave you with only one vendor (nintendo is in its own world for now) with no competition other than the PC. MS will probably try to move the brand over to PC only. Still wonder if they will ever buy or team with GoG or whomever and build a real store.
Competition drives things forward and controls price. Really should look at this as bad news for console gaming in general.
Revenue-wise, but given that the prices are more or less the same in Europe it must have also been the case sales-wise.
Just as an example (2009/2010):
UK & Ireland - 948.9m EUR
France, Spain, Portugal, Benelux, Russia - 926.2m EUR
Germany - 615.5m EUR
Edit: Or here for other years (revenue in million EUR)
Wii sold 6.6 million units in UK by January 2010, it was huge.
Yh and that's the thing the situation isn't going to improve if they are not addressing it as a whole/for a prolonged period(In terms of amount of releases/release period).
JonnyDBrit
Member
Consistently weakest market my ass, unless Ireland is Nintendo central.
TheMagician
Member
It is when Nintendo Switch is always sold out in the UK.
The 'not good' is the lack of stock.
KillerMan91
Member
To be fair Snes wasn't that hot anywhere in Europe. Before Wii no Nintendo home console had shipped even 10 million in PAL regions. I don't know if its fair to single UK out. Before Wii only Nintendos handhelds succeeded in Europe and even then GBA was way weaker in Europe than in US.
ExtinctionEvent
Banned
sounds like you dont know what competition is....the Xbox is were it is because of strong competition.
The Abominable Snowman
Member
Is the Switch doing dramatically better than the 3DS pre-pricecut? It had JUST started to outpace the 3DS launch aligned in Japan for 2-3 weeks before the pricecut happened and 3DS shot to heaven. Similar story in the US, but the 3DS was doing better. How was it in the UK?
MisterR
Member
Yep, and this is Xbox's second strongest region.
Bingo. If people don't want to actually use the Switch outside the house, then what? May as well have a system that sits in one spot and has highly detailed games.
Switch still has to fight with smartphones for on-the-go attention and it does seem to be putting up a good one so far.
Skittzo0413
Member
No I believe it's been outpacing the 3DS quite heavily since launch in the US. The 3DS did not take off here until the price cut, even then it started pretty slowly IIRC.
Overall it's been comfortably ahead of the 3DS (launch aligned) worldwide for a while, still is I believe.
Garrett Hawke
Member
I did notice that it seems to be coming into stock and staying in stock in the UK now. I wonder if that will last - I can see it selling out over Christmas before becoming readily available again.
I think the UK price is still quite high for what it is, especially when £70 in either direction nets you a PS4 or a Pro.
I love mine though and I'm sure it will continue to be difficult to get during peak events (Odyssey, Pokemon, etc)
I think the UK price is still quite high for what it is, especially when £70 in either direction nets you a PS4 or a Pro.
I love mine though and I'm sure it will continue to be difficult to get during peak events (Odyssey, Pokemon, etc)
Surprised no one said Scorpio on the first page.
Doesn't have to be BIG AAA exclusives but a healthy stream of exclusive software can create a positive momentum.
Cannot be said enough.
Doesn't have to be BIG AAA exclusives but a healthy stream of exclusive software can create a positive momentum.
Garrett Hawke
Member
The Switch isn't really supply constrained in the UK currently.
Polygonal_Sprite
Member
The crazy thing about this is that they're almost giving away the XB1S here in the U.K. I've seen bundles recently when if you take into account the current price of the bundled games you're getting the console for as little as £80. Even crazier is the fact it can play 4k Blu Ray. I would have thought it would be selling a bit on that alone.
Xbox are completely fucked here which has to be extremely alarming for everyone at MS considering how strong the 360 was in the U.K. Like others have said, I doubt a £450 4k console is going to do much to change that.
Xbox are completely fucked here which has to be extremely alarming for everyone at MS considering how strong the 360 was in the U.K. Like others have said, I doubt a £450 4k console is going to do much to change that.
Mikey Jr.
Member
I think the switch is the perfect companion console to the ps4.
If you have a PS4, there aren't a lot of reasons to get an Xbox. But there are for the switch. Those 2 don't really compete with each other.
In my situation, I had a PS4 first, and got a switch. I usually get the Xbox second, and Nintendo dead last by a large margin.
This time, I'm honestly not sure I'll ever get an Xbox. Don't see the point.
Wouldn't be surprised if I saw this mimicked in the UK.
We'll see if the Scorpio changes anything.
If you have a PS4, there aren't a lot of reasons to get an Xbox. But there are for the switch. Those 2 don't really compete with each other.
In my situation, I had a PS4 first, and got a switch. I usually get the Xbox second, and Nintendo dead last by a large margin.
This time, I'm honestly not sure I'll ever get an Xbox. Don't see the point.
Wouldn't be surprised if I saw this mimicked in the UK.
We'll see if the Scorpio changes anything.
Primethius
Banned
Good result for the Switch, poor result for the XB1.
PS4 is well, PS4. I'm still surprised it seems to be heading towards another potentially peak year in some markets.
PS4 is well, PS4. I'm still surprised it seems to be heading towards another potentially peak year in some markets.
I think you read into my post a little too much.
Bitch Pudding
Member
Lack of marketing spendings may affect sales of course, but usually there's always a halo effect for other SKUs of the platform.
That said, I haven't seen any data which actually supports your assessment (regarding a shift towards XOX).
What's not affecting XBox sales however is gamers not buying the S because they wait for the X. Of course some do, but four years in we are talking about two completely different customer segments.
chromatic9
Member
I wasn't aware of the poor US sales for Xbox this year. Again the UK and US show a similar trend.
Pretty good call for Sony to not include the UHD player then. Gamers want vidya games is my scientific conclusion.
Pretty good call for Sony to not include the UHD player then. Gamers want vidya games is my scientific conclusion.
frankie_baby
Member
Was more like 8 or 9 million (and 12 million DS)
DS LTD was at 10.7 million units in January 2010.
I can speak only for the data I have (in this case LTD as January 2010).
NintendosBooger
Member
How many times do we have to hear the ghost story of smartphones significantly eating into portable sales? Smartphones are a serious threat and a detriment only to those handheld gaming devices with half-assed support like the Vita. 3DS sales will blow past 70 million by the end of the year, and will probably outsell the Game Boy Advance (pre-Smartphone era device, btw), Switch is selling well. Software is king, and people will follow it to wherever it goes.
Hehe well it's still a bad call objectively based on what the system is targeting but it's definitively validity to the exclusion not affecting it in the grand scheme of things.I wasn't aware of the poor US sales for Xbox this year. Again the UK and US show a similar trend.
Pretty good call for Sony to not include the UHD player then. Gamers want vidya games is my scientific conclusion.
frankie_baby
Member
Over 8 million according to this in 2013
http://www.techradar.com/news/gamin...urpass-nintendo-wii-s-uk-sales-record-1131356
Sangetsu-II
Member
You do realize they are only in the top ten because they are given away for free with every console purchase right?
(Usually 3 or more games per console)
JonnyDBrit
Member
For the UK, just to absolutely clarify?
(Though given the holiday period, wouldn't be surprised at all by that)
Yeah, we were talking about UK market.
Yikes. Sales for Xbox One looking pretty dim everywhere.
Frankly, the outlook of the Xbox One X might not be any better long-term either. Sure, the Cornelius players will it initially, but 2-3 months later? I'm not sure it has the legs....competing against a cheaper PS4 Pro (specially after a probably price drop for the Holidays) and a new desirable $1K iPhone. This is gonna be interesting for sure.
Frankly, the outlook of the Xbox One X might not be any better long-term either. Sure, the Cornelius players will it initially, but 2-3 months later? I'm not sure it has the legs....competing against a cheaper PS4 Pro (specially after a probably price drop for the Holidays) and a new desirable $1K iPhone. This is gonna be interesting for sure.
Yeah, Wii was over 8.4 million by June 2013:
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/xbox-360-overtakes-wii-as-the-uk-s-no-1-games-console/0117798
frankie_baby
Member
I cant find a link but definitely remember it broke 12 million eventually