SomedayTheFire
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I am flabbergasted by people saying this is petty. Like are you guys real people with real jobs?
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343 Rescinds Job Offer to Halo Community Member Over Forum Post
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Professor Beef
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Not while I was employed or looking for work, and certainly not on social media.
thelastword
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Did 343 deliver a severely broken game recently that he paid for? If they did, I could understand such a comment for a forum post out of anger, but whatever he meant by that, he should have qualified it right there in that post...aka....what's the context? ......outside of that, looking at this post at face value, it's not a nice thing to say...You can criticize a product, but don't wish harm and bad fortune for people.......So yes, I can understand how 343 uppers felt...
It would definitely create some tension between himself and staff if he got that job...I'm also pretty sure all the employees were aware of a forger getting a job at 343, so if the staff members or those very devs saw this post, you know they would make a stink about it either-way....
It would definitely create some tension between himself and staff if he got that job...I'm also pretty sure all the employees were aware of a forger getting a job at 343, so if the staff members or those very devs saw this post, you know they would make a stink about it either-way....
No it's not. It's equivalent of venting on your facebook or linkedin page. People get fired for that.
Yes, and I was blacklisted from the company that took over after I quite because of were brought over to the new company. Some of my criticisms were valid, but in their defense I was being an immature prick about it too.
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
You havent played either, have you?
It's definitely fair dismissal. Even moreso if he posted that after applying, which is likely given how recent it is and how drawn out Microsoft's recruitment process is.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
You didn't know Forge existed? It's been around since Halo 3.
Here's the thing too: This was a published comment, which presumably, you could edit or append at any later point, if you truly regret it.
Like, to be perfectly frank, earlier today I was criticizing Slightly Mad Studios for having "low standards" on QA and overreaching on simultanious mutli-platform releases for the size of the studio. I think I slipped over to being more personal than necessary to get those contentions across. Someone called it out, and I recognized it immediately in a follow-up post. Even given that, I would understand someone at a potential job looking at that and thinking it showed poor judgement from me as a potential hire.
Unfair what now? Dude never actually became a actual employee( a job offer as rescinded, he wasn't fired). Dude would have no legal foot in the UK either.
Seriously. What does that even look like when he's invited in to join them? Does the rest of the company have to just settle for side eyeing him and bite their tongue at the disrespect he leveled at them? This shit is crazy. I would have sidelined his ass too.
Peroroncino
Member
1 dumb post, probably written in the heat of the moment vs years of dedication and creating quality content
If it was something hateful I could understand their reaction, but deyning him a job over something as petty as this? L O O O O O L, let him say it was dumb, that he's sorry and carry the fuck on.
Besides, it's no secret that the series took a turn for the worse since Halo 4.
If it was something hateful I could understand their reaction, but deyning him a job over something as petty as this? L O O O O O L, let him say it was dumb, that he's sorry and carry the fuck on.
Besides, it's no secret that the series took a turn for the worse since Halo 4.
belteshazzar
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While I was reading the post I thought that his reddit post must have been something really bad and really stupid, but seriously after seeing what he actually wrote I think 343 extremely overreacted. That post did nothing to them, meanwhile they made a decision that is life/career ruining for this individual. FeelsBadMan
BizzyBum
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I think people are criticizing 343 because fans knew how talented and passionate Multi was and are hoping so much that Halo 6 is a success that they couldn't care less who they hired to help potentially make the game great. 343 could probably hire Donald Trump and fans would be okay with it if he was talented at making Halo maps. lol
I'm not saying what 343 did was wrong, because as others pointed out it would cause extreme awkwardness around the office knowing the dude you're working with said you should be fired 3 months ago, but that's just the mindset fans have right now.
philipnorth
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Same here in the Netherlands, however if I understand correctly, he wasn't fired from 343, they withdrew their offer.
From what I know about the laws here at least, best he could get is some compensation.
On the whole, I kinda get 343's response.
Also, we only have this screenshot, did the guy say more stuff?
And I'd actually be interested in 343's response/explanation.
Dinky Dino
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I can't fathom why people link or use the same username over several accounts. I always make sure my user names and accounts across various forums or boards vary. Wonder how they got him
Megatron
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I hate responses like this. You shouldn't have to take a college course to know not to publicly trash talk a company you someday hope to work for. Thats why I would have rescinded it. Not for what he said, but for how poor his judgement and foresight apparently is. This comment makes him Appear to be pure id. Incapable of saying anything other than what comes into his head at any given moment with no consideration of consequences.
nope
Goodacre0081
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very petty that 343 used this against him. dude obviously has passion for the franchise and probably would have been an asset.
also, the person who went out of their way to find that post is a piece of shit.
also, the person who went out of their way to find that post is a piece of shit.
While the timing supremely sucks, the guy should have known better.
I mean, it wasn't like a post made 5 years ago while being an edgy teen or something.
It was made THREE months ago, and if I'm reading correctly, he did it while working for Treyarch?
And it's not a slight like "Halo 5's maps suck" or "The campaign sucks". It was as personal as it comes.
"All of you should be out on the street"
If you're that stupid, stupid shit is going to happen to you.
Just because something happened in the past doesn't mean that you can't be held accountable for it anymore.
I mean, it wasn't like a post made 5 years ago while being an edgy teen or something.
It was made THREE months ago, and if I'm reading correctly, he did it while working for Treyarch?
And it's not a slight like "Halo 5's maps suck" or "The campaign sucks". It was as personal as it comes.
"All of you should be out on the street"
If you're that stupid, stupid shit is going to happen to you.
Just because something happened in the past doesn't mean that you can't be held accountable for it anymore.
Go write one dumb post on your facebook page that shit talks the company you work for, and make sure your boss finds it. Find out what happens.
Auto_aim1
MeisaMcCaffrey
Job Interview.
"What do you like about our company?"
"No one here deserves their job"
"You're hired!"
Not really.
I mean, I feel for him because it's easy to get carried away and post hyperbolic stuff on forums sometimes and if 343 told him that they knew about the post and hired him anyway, I think he would have been an amazing asset to the team. I don't want to take sides here since it's an old post and he got screwed due to that but that was kind of a shitty thing to post.
"What do you like about our company?"
"No one here deserves their job"
"You're hired!"
Not really.
I mean, I feel for him because it's easy to get carried away and post hyperbolic stuff on forums sometimes and if 343 told him that they knew about the post and hired him anyway, I think he would have been an amazing asset to the team. I don't want to take sides here since it's an old post and he got screwed due to that but that was kind of a shitty thing to post.
Yeah. I'm not exactly sure why this is so hard for people to grasp.
I think it's dumb not to hire someone over a driveby if they work great with you in person and their portfolio kicks ass. But at the same time, man, if you're looking to be hired... maybe don't post anything like that? Surely he was being talked to by July, right? If this was something posted, like... three years ago, then there's no reason for anyone to get mad. But it was posted in July...
Prophet Steve
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I have, but I have plenty of critique when I'm at work too. I don't post hyperbolic statement on the internet for everyone to see though, and I would fully expect repercussions for doing so. It is not an equivalent of anything because it is on the internet and everyone can see it forever.
As an employer you would not have to really hope all of the employees are going to be perfectly okay with this and there would be no damaging effects to the company culture.
Or you know, just have him not work there anymore.
tiredheadcrab
Member
Pretty sure we just had a thread on toxicity among gamers in the game industry. Not sure why people are turning on 343 over this. What you post online is important. I am pretty sure most people are just shitting on the corporation without some real context.
RightChandMan
Member
As much as I don't like the current state of halo, I have to agree with 343 here. If I hired someone at the place I work at, and they wrote "No one deserves their job" I would rescind the offer without hesitation.
Calling out potential coworkers and saying they do a horrible job does not allow for a proper tone to be set. It doesn't matter if he intended it to be less biting or in jest, it was done. Companies do not tolerate behavior like that. Simple.
For real.
The Baron Count
Member
Obviously this is a really awful situation to be in for him but I can't think of any company that would willingly hire someone who has publicly said something like that. To be honest he is kind of an asshole for making that comment to begin with.
If you think that it's cool to say something like that about people you have never met then you have some maturity issues.
I don't care how much don't like these games, you're just another troll on the internet when you start insulting the people making them for no reason other than you disagree with their direction.
I wouldn't hire someone that said something like that about my company either. Some of you are living in a fantasy world if you think that's acceptable.
If you think that it's cool to say something like that about people you have never met then you have some maturity issues.
I don't care how much don't like these games, you're just another troll on the internet when you start insulting the people making them for no reason other than you disagree with their direction.
I wouldn't hire someone that said something like that about my company either. Some of you are living in a fantasy world if you think that's acceptable.
Personally I feel like it's kind of different if you already work there. At that point it becomes a lot more personal because you actually know the people working there
poodaddy
Member
So is your username ironic or....
A subjective opinion on a franchise's quality doesn't have any bearing on a situation like this.
UnemployedVillain
Member
This. I'm convinced a number of people either don't have jobs or somehow, don't realize badmouthing a potential employer is a terrible idea
spootime
Member
Although I can't blame 343 for rescinding his offer I think they could have maybe taken a different path. His post was shitty, and I wouldn't want to work with a coworker like that either. That being said, I think its important to balance one shitty venting post on a forum with the all the time, passion, and energy he's put into Halo. People who are passionate about a series are usually its harshest critics. I don't know what they could have done instead though -- maybe given him the chance to apologize to his coworkers in advance or something like that? Tough situation all around.
If death threats were involved, I'm sure the police would be too. If you think it takes death threats to get an offer rescinded, you have not worked in a corporate setting.
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