darkjedi187
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Just need to move Actraiser, Turtles in Time and NBAJams up and add Final Fantasy II. What am I saying theres more missing. So many good games on SNES.
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Just need to move Actraiser, Turtles in Time and NBAJams up and add Final Fantasy II. What am I saying theres more missing. So many good games on SNES.
Did I miss something in terms of hackability or are we just listing our future wish list of games to add?
Also, based on our knowledge of the NES Classic's space (and the SNES classiv having an identical boardset), how many games would it be able to hold in addition to the pre-loaded 21?
Also, based on our knowledge of the NES Classic's space (and the SNES classiv having an identical boardset), how many games would it be able to hold in addition to the pre-loaded 21?
noonespecial
Member
Awesome. I guess calling in stores is kind of a waste of time then also?
Yea. Theres been a massive run in them since they work great.
My 2nd arrives in two days ...
Type_Raver
Member
Are you me? This is pretty much my list to a T.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
It feels the same as it did back then. I guess you're spoiled by Xbox controllers and Dual Shock 4s. I feel like every controller felt equally flimsy before those.
TheExhaustedWalrus
Member
Any news on a restock? Im getting desperate here
MercuryLS3
Junior Member
Totally agree, i have a bunch of rooms but I'm going to curate them down to a handful only. Too many games on the frontend would ruin it.
PAULINK
I microwave steaks.
why would you hide a game, simply out of spite? lol
HitCtrlAltDel
Member
Nice, just needed to add one there
Lol, I never really played that (Tetris Attack). Ill have to give it a shot. As for Final Fantasy II, Im not a huge RPG fan so if Im going to play one its going to trying Chrono Trigger a second time or FFIII since its considered one of the best (if not THE best) final fantasy game.
Haha, Id be curious to see what you decide in the end. Let me know when you actually get the games on there when the hack comes out.
D.Lo
Member
Feels quality as hell to me. It's light and the buttons are (deliberately) loose, but is made of quality plastic perfectly moulded.
It was Sega controllers and other companies' controllers that were the cheaper quality back in the day, made in various third world places with cheaper plastic while Nintendo was still 100% Japanese manufactured. Sega only really got to decent quality with the Saturn.
If I'm being honest, I'm throwing as many games as I can on there.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I've been thinking about what's "missing" on the SNES Classic. Third party games need not apply, because obviously there are additional financial considerations there, and it's not super obvious those would have ever been on the cards.
So here's a list of US-published Nintendo first party games that did NOT make it on SNES Classic:
Missing:
Pilotwings, Super Tennis, Super Soccer (in JPN SFC Mini Classic but not the US SNES Classic), Super Play Action Football, Vegas Stakes, Super Mario All-Stars, Wario's Woods, Uniracers, Kirby Avalanche, Stunt Race FX, DKC2, Kirby's Dream Land 3, DKC3
Licensed:
SimCity, NCAA Basketball, NHL Stanley Cup, Ken Griffey Jr, Tetris & Dr. Mario, Tetris Attack, Ken Griffey Jr. 2,
Technical / Peripheral issues:
Technical limitations: Super Scope 6, Mario Paint, Battle Clash, Yoshi's Safari, Metal Combat, Tin Star
Potentially third party, rights issues, not re-released on VC either:
Illusion of Gaia
Looking at the first list, you can probably guess at why some stuff might be disqualified (the sports games are not great, Vegas Stakes has gambling, Super Mario All-Stars might be Mario overload and also they did the Wii retail release and it might be about protecting the game's value in some perverse way, Kirby Avalanche was probably deemed Kirby overload along with KDL3, DKC2 and DKC3 were probably excluded because the first game was more well known, Stunt Race FX is garbage.
But two conspicuous absences to me are Uniracers and Pilotwings, both of which are great games, technically supported, owned by Nintendo. Uniracers is 2P, which is an angle they're pushing with this. They're both well known. I'm really surprised!
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So here's a list of US-published Nintendo first party games that did NOT make it on SNES Classic:
Missing:
Pilotwings, Super Tennis, Super Soccer (in JPN SFC Mini Classic but not the US SNES Classic), Super Play Action Football, Vegas Stakes, Super Mario All-Stars, Wario's Woods, Uniracers, Kirby Avalanche, Stunt Race FX, DKC2, Kirby's Dream Land 3, DKC3
Licensed:
SimCity, NCAA Basketball, NHL Stanley Cup, Ken Griffey Jr, Tetris & Dr. Mario, Tetris Attack, Ken Griffey Jr. 2,
Technical / Peripheral issues:
Technical limitations: Super Scope 6, Mario Paint, Battle Clash, Yoshi's Safari, Metal Combat, Tin Star
Potentially third party, rights issues, not re-released on VC either:
Illusion of Gaia
Looking at the first list, you can probably guess at why some stuff might be disqualified (the sports games are not great, Vegas Stakes has gambling, Super Mario All-Stars might be Mario overload and also they did the Wii retail release and it might be about protecting the game's value in some perverse way, Kirby Avalanche was probably deemed Kirby overload along with KDL3, DKC2 and DKC3 were probably excluded because the first game was more well known, Stunt Race FX is garbage.
But two conspicuous absences to me are Uniracers and Pilotwings, both of which are great games, technically supported, owned by Nintendo. Uniracers is 2P, which is an angle they're pushing with this. They're both well known. I'm really surprised!
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Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Nothing concrete. Any guesses from retail employees at this point are fairly meaningless.
I actually kinda forgot about Pilotwings. That is a pretty strange omission.
Actually they are a frew grams lighter for whatever reason.
Yeah Pilotwings is really weird.
As much as I looooooooove NBA Jam and the first Ken Griffey games, there's no way they could re-release those because of the licenses.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Didnt Uniracers have some bizarre copyright issues or a lawsuit that prevented further release?
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Yeah, they got into a boxing match with Pixar and it didn't go well.
D.Lo
Member
Many of these have clear reasons.
Uniracers/Unirally has a copyright issue, Pixar sued them for 'stealing' the concept of a CGI unicycle.
Kirby's Avalanche is Puyo, a third party game.
There are already two Kirby games on the system
Mario All Stars is a compilation of games that were on the NES Mini
Stunt Race FX, Vegas Stakes, Wario's Woods are all pretty low value.
Super Tennis is a big omission, as is Pilotwings, and a lot of people would probably like DKC2 too.
KojiKnight
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You're confusing "light" with "cheap". Xbox and PS4 controllers have a ton of things that add a lot of weight (motors, batteries, etc). The plastic is on par with modern controllers and the buttons feel very solid and react perfectly. I've never felt I've died in a game due to the controller or any missed button inputs.
Modern materials that PCB are made of versus the older.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Despite being published by Nintendo over here, Super Tennis was just a random Japanese sports title from Tonkin House. The view from Japan, or even outside of it, it might not look like as core of a Nintendo first party title as it would have appeared to western markets back then.
PAULINK
I microwave steaks.
honestly, 21 games for the price of $80 is a bargain. it seems greedy to even think of wanting more.
KojiKnight
Member
FF2US is not worth rereleasing in any form. The translation was awful, the fact that we lost a ton of features was awful, and although the story holds up as well as could be expected, it's lagging behind nearly every other release.
Maybe we'll see the superior FF4A on the GBACE. Or DSCE in another 10 years.
Maybe we'll see the superior FF4A on the GBACE. Or DSCE in another 10 years.
AtomicShroom
Member
I guess youve come too acquainted with controllers filled with motors, gyroscopes, batteries, antennas, the cure for cancer, etc...
A barebones controller like the SNES oughta feel abnormally light in comparison.
D.Lo
Member
Yep, but from my experience it was a popular, memorable title due to playing so well.
But then I guess including one sports game kind of opens floodgates.
TransTrender
Gold Member
Whew. USPS finally managed to get this delivered today. Shocking since it was in the 'major metro USPS distribution center' on the 28th but then was cluster fucking for the last few days.
Haven't cracked it open yet but is there a key combo on the controller that takes you to the main dashboard so you can use save slots and stuff or do you still have to hit the reset button? If there's a hack I'll do that.
Hah! I know exactly what you mean.
Haven't cracked it open yet but is there a key combo on the controller that takes you to the main dashboard so you can use save slots and stuff or do you still have to hit the reset button? If there's a hack I'll do that.
Hah! I know exactly what you mean.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Flashback to PAL gamers bitching about the inclusion of Tecmo Bowl on NES Classic.
superdeluxe
Member
Do we know about how many games we can add re space? 10-15?
SonicXtreme
Member
iirc SMW comes to like, 3.5 mbs zipped? space available is @ 300mbs. but saves take about .5 mb so you don't want to fill it too much....I would venture you could double the game lineup easily but you wouldn't want to go too crazy
superdeluxe
Member
Damn, the 8-25 pre order is supposed to get here on the 5th. That sucks.
OrbitalBeard
Member
The big omissions in my eyes are Pilotwings and DKC2. I'm honestly kind of shocked they aren't on here, to be honest. Chrono Trigger is kind of a glaring omission as well, but it's a third party game, so I'm less bothered by it.
Overall though, the collection of games on this thing is incredibly strong.
Overall though, the collection of games on this thing is incredibly strong.
Vincent Alexander
Member
So glad to see you list Sim City. I want that on my Classic bad.
DonMigs85
Member
Mario World was 4-megabit game, so just 512 Kilobytes. The SNES Mini should have around 300 Megabytes available. I think an additional 50 to 80 games is doable
I figured it was probably nothing to worry about.
Wow, the first minecart level in Donkey Kong Country 1 was a ROYAL PAIN. Playing in co-op mode it took us 15+ tries and 1-2 game overs. Nothing in the game was really an issue before that. The second half of the level is comically long compared to the first, there's a hard-to-hit KONG letter and a dangerous-to-attempt extra life and that seems to be it. No DK barrels, no more checkpoints, and many tight timing jumps are instakill if you fail them so even having a partner doesn't help. Each time we would finally make it further and think we've succeeded, the game would throw another awkwardly placed instant death ramp, slow track segment followed by a last-minute jump, or sudden enemy minecart.
And once you finally beat it? You can't save until you beat 1-2 more levels after that. It felt like the designer was screwing with us.
On the plus side, it's crazy how smooth everything feels even at high speed in DKC1. I get the impression RARE really knew what they were doing on the hardware compared to other SNES games, though perhaps it's actually an illusion because DKC1 uses fewer sprites or something.
And once you finally beat it? You can't save until you beat 1-2 more levels after that.
It felt like the designer was screwing with us.On the plus side, it's crazy how smooth everything feels even at high speed in DKC1. I get the impression RARE really knew what they were doing on the hardware compared to other SNES games, though perhaps it's actually an illusion because DKC1 uses fewer sprites or something.
superdeluxe
Member
Thanks
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Pilotwings isn't on there because it is a waste of space.
ScaryShark
Banned
With 25 or 30 games it might have sold out on the first day of release even.
KojiKnight
Member
108048
889243 (not sure about this one, may be 882943)
I haven't played Pilotwings in over 10 years, I still have the helicopter level codes memorized. Game was awesome near launch. I plan on playing them again when I finish my SNESCE games. I wouldn't memorize those codes as a kid if I didn't enjoy the game to hell and back.
friskykillface
Banned
Tiny Toons adventures: Buster Busts loose is a really fun game
A solid addition to anyone's snes classic
A solid addition to anyone's snes classic
So here's what I think will be my final list of additions...
Adventures of Batman & Robin
Chrono Trigger
Ignition Factor
Ken Griffer Jr. Presents Major League Baseball
Killer Instinct
Mortal Kombat 2
Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3
NBA Jam (not sure if I should go for the normal or the TE)
Pilotwings
Sim City
Sunset Riders
Super Mario All-Stars
Adventures of Batman & Robin
Chrono Trigger
Ignition Factor
Ken Griffer Jr. Presents Major League Baseball
Killer Instinct
Mortal Kombat 2
Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3
NBA Jam (not sure if I should go for the normal or the TE)
Pilotwings
Sim City
Sunset Riders
Super Mario All-Stars
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