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The Needle Drop pioneered music reviews. His other channel was for the alt-rights
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Thornton Reed
Member
I'm super confused
I always had him down as super liberal. I've seen him be critical of paul joseph watson and he has always just come across as left leaning in all the videos i've seen of him. Someone has already mentioned the video "why i'd never use the n word"
I've not read the article yet so i'm yet to have made my mind up for myself.
I always had him down as super liberal. I've seen him be critical of paul joseph watson and he has always just come across as left leaning in all the videos i've seen of him. Someone has already mentioned the video "why i'd never use the n word"
I've not read the article yet so i'm yet to have made my mind up for myself.
To clarify, it's not so much about his actual beliefs or intentions but the things he's done.
Widdle Puppy
Banned
I love to see a hit piece finally drop on this dope. He made a video about how he doesn't say the nword on his serious account after the pewdiepie shit but if you watch an old video of his he drops "niggerfaggot" as a joke on his alt right account like it's nothing.
Fallout-NL
Member
There's this too:
Not sure why anyone in here is still defending this guy. I don't care what it is, money grab, satire or actual support for the alt-right, any sane person should know better than to associate with these types. It's disgusting.
Also, holy shit that video is awful.
I was confused at first too. Thinking that maybe it was one-off video that got taken out of context...but nooooope!! The fader article goes into explicit thorough detail highlighting all the fucked up racist shit he's been posting and being involved in. Dude is clearly playing the two-face game to cater to a wider demographic for the $$$$. Fuck this racist POS.
BTW, he's in the process of creating a response video: https://twitter.com/theneedledrop/status/915402398679621632
I don't understand this. How can you stand for everything that is against the 'alt-right' and yet still be 'alt-right'?
As for Fantano, I always saw thatistheplan as a satire of the 4chan culture he was a part of and still has some connection to these days.
Wrestlemania
Banned
Getting hung up on whether he himself is alt-right is kind of missing the point, because factually he was creating videos which were basically indistinguishable from those created by alt-right people. Whether they were meant to be satirical, genuine or a cash grab doesnt really matter - he made the videos and they propagated alt-right talking points.
ElectronicOldMen
Banned
TBH i don't really care whether or not Fantano is or is not actually racist, is or is not actually a part of the alt-right, whether his TITP stuff was 'satire' (if this is what people are passing off as satire now oh god kill me), he absolutely courts all that for his own monetary gain and he just generally fucking sucks. It's all two-faced bullshit so he can appear nice and friendly and progressive to all the artists he covers and the contemporaries in his industry while also getting that sweet Youtube racist teen dollar.
I used to really be a fan of his, since he started all this its always made me fucking angry and sad. I just don't have time for people putting on a minstrel show and turning around at the end and saying 'get it! it was all just a joke!'
I used to really be a fan of his, since he started all this its always made me fucking angry and sad. I just don't have time for people putting on a minstrel show and turning around at the end and saying 'get it! it was all just a joke!'
excelsiorlef
Member
You know the irony here, that you took that post a face value when it's satirical while stating how clear it is that Fantano is simply satire, is amusing
Fallout-NL
Member
Says it all really.
This is my take. It's fucking irresponsible, especially in today's political climate.
Sounds to me like he's obfuscating ultra-cynical monetary exploitation of right-wing clickbait garbage behind the veneer of "satire". Not much difference from the people you see spreading fake news through Facebook, and when queried about their activities they just go "bububu we're like The Onion!" with absolutely zero regard for the kind of attitudes they're grooming.
Well there you go. Guess Im done with Fantano.
Almost every single word here could have also been said of the person on the left. Is she alt-right?
Prodigal Son
Member
what is real anymore
Almost every single word here could have also been said of the person on the left. Is she alt-right?
I haven't got a clue who that is.
can't get over how much this video sucks
However, and I can't believe I have to say this, it is easier to understand tone in video format than in text.
He could've been completely serious. I didn't know. Unlike thatistheplan which is so ridiculous and OTT that it is clearly satire. I personally didn't find the channel funny, but I didn't see it as offensive.
excelsiorlef
Member
Cassandra Fairbanks, she was some supposedly lefty social media personality who then became the exact opposite and is now alt-right as alt-rigth can be.
excelsiorlef
Member
Try to excuse it all you want. You still tried to defend satirical bigotry as being ok while in the same post taking blatant (and far less dangerous) satire at face value... I'm well within my rights to find that incredibly amusing.
It's pretty obvious that the people he is supposedly satirizing (if we go with it's satire) feel entertained and empowered by what he says. Satirical bigotry that is indistinguishable from real bigotry, satirical bigotry that attracts the exact same following as real bigotry... is in the end real bigotry.
Messofanego
Banned
There are plenty of political threads that bring out the ultra right wing people who often use alts so they can say their despicable shit and they get banned right quick. Islam, immigration, nazis, free speech, blackface, racism, body image, rape, and other discussions do not stay "super left" here. Every single page will have someone unique spouting a ridiculous position that will then become about them. It's only an "echo chamber" because those kinds of people don't stay long here since there's great moderation.
Repeating alt-right arguments verbatim with silly voices or whatever doesn't make something satire.
theignoramus
Member
I never liked this bozo anyway, his hip hop reviews showed his underlying contempt for the culture. I'm glad he's proved my suspicions about him were right.
theignoramus
Member
"ultra right" like reddits threads where everyone we don't like is a "nigger jew faggot cuck"?
fierrotlepou
Member
Wow, too bad. Got a lot of great music via his channel. Fuck him though.
If Fantano's reviews were written and on the side he was writing weird alt-right meme satire then I could understand people taking it the wrong way and by extension your amusement at my miss-interpretation of the user's post.
I didn't realise satirists have to go to you to define whether or not what they are doing is satire or not.
Pyroclastic
Banned
I don't see the problem with here being predominantly left wing, you going to go to the Donald or free Republic or which ever gaming forum is the equivalent of here and chastise them for being too on the right? But yeah, it does suck when one narrative becomes the prevailing one and anything else that deviates from that is shouted down for sure.
RedSparrows
Member
Sheesh, not wrong there. So many misreadings, historical idiocy, and logical contortions... in the name some kind of rationality.
Also wtf is that knight-mask thing about. Creepy.
excelsiorlef
Member
Some of the greatest and most blatant satire was written.
This dude literally has an audience of 4channers...
Aw fuck. This duck is drinking all the milkshake.
You are, of course, correct. Hell I have studied satirical writing. That doesn't mean that it can't be misunderstood by people who think they are being sincere.
I enjoy his reviews and have followed him when he had like a 5% of the subscribers. And I have never been on 4chan. That probably explains why, outside of the early 'meme' reviews I didn't find that channel funny.
Only started occasionally watching this guy recently, but stopped. I kept getting put off but his whole "Rock is dead" rhetoric he'd pull whenever he shitcanned a decent rock album.
The fact that this year has seen releases from the likes of Foo Fighters, U2, The Killers, 30 seconds to Mars, Nickelback (yes, Nickelback,) and more makes me feel hopeful about the future of Rock, contrary to the naysayers.
(Sorry, I know that's a little off topic, just been wanting to get that off my chest about him)
The fact that this year has seen releases from the likes of Foo Fighters, U2, The Killers, 30 seconds to Mars, Nickelback (yes, Nickelback,) and more makes me feel hopeful about the future of Rock, contrary to the naysayers.
(Sorry, I know that's a little off topic, just been wanting to get that off my chest about him)
excelsiorlef
Member
But my point is he has an audience who doesn't treat what he says as satire (and he does nothing to dissuade them). Which is exactly the same way you treated that post, only in their case it's much more dangerous.
That's why I was amused.
Like you literally took satire at face value while mocking the idea that anyone could take that satire at face value.
Ha that long ago? I didn't even know Sargon dates that far back. I noticed Anthony in one of the live chats right around the time JonTron joined up with Sargon at some point.
ElectronicOldMen
Banned
Satire is when you're racist, but ironically.
The fact many people make shitty excuses for racists in a variety of ways doesn't change the fact that sometimes, it really is just satire.
excelsiorlef
Member
It being "just" satire doesn't make it ok.
Isn't Sargon from the more united times of new atheism? That shit was like back in 08.
He seemed like a fairly liberal guy based on some of his criticisms on how women are treated in music among other things. I think his opinions have shifted over the past few years at least a little bit. What matters more to me is if he still holds these views and supports them. Him deleting that channel without a second thought seems promising to me.
Correct. That's not the point though. He is indeed doing more harm than good and should be held responsible for his shit decisions that no doubt encouraged the alt right despite it clearly being meant to mock them.
But as a person he isn't a racist.