No, the Pilgrims started religion on the first Thanksgiving.
I almost spit out my water.
No, the Pilgrims started religion on the first Thanksgiving.
Is this a joke post?
Ah thanks. Might use my Vudu credit to rewatch it.No but it is on VUDU, FandangoNow, Playstation Store, and Microsoft Store.
Youve never heard of Thor?I didnt know vikings were religious
Wasn't that character based on a real person?
I didnt know vikings were religious
I think this actually highlights a problem that ”minorties" within the western world have been talking about for many years now. History has been written from a ”whitewashed" point of view.
The letters used in Arabic are instantaneously recognizable honestly. It's just that there's no room in academia for alternative points of view that allows for women or minorities to play a more active role than has been traditionally presented. Recall the shit show of the ”black Roman".
Larsson then realised she was not looking at Viking patterns at all but ancient Arabic Kufic script.
There were two words that kept recurring. One of them she identified with the help of an Iranian colleague. It was the name "Ali" - the fourth caliph of Islam.
But the word next to Ali was more difficult to decipher.
To unlock the puzzle, she enlarged the letters and examined them from all angles, including from behind.
"But more likely it is a wrongly copied pattern."
I didnt know vikings were religious
"I couldn't quite make sense of them and then I remembered where I had seen similar designs - in Spain, on Moorish textiles."
This one?
It's just that there's no room in academia for alternative points of view that allows for women or minorities to play a more active role than has been traditionally presented. Recall the shit show of the ”black Roman".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_ibn_Yaqub
Dude even visited a town that's only a few miles away from my home.
It's also pretty well documented that Vikings quickly adapted new religions. Why only pray to your gods when those weird Christians have just one god who's supposed to be more powerful than freakin Odin? Pray to all the gods!
Practically every society ever in history was religious. Vikings started off as pagans.
Secularism is a relatively recent thing.
Norse mythology??? Thor???? Odin???????
Anyway I don't think this implies a significant conversion of vikings to islam. The easiest connection is that they raided Muslim Spain, took their nice clothes, and got buried in them because they were trophies. I wouldn't be surprised if some converted through long-term contact but the article even mentions Moorish Spain so....
Not a huge jump that it's just stolen shit.
Academia is perfectly willing to incorporate revisionist views of history, it happens all the time. Revisionism isn't seen as a bad thing when it has evidence.
They even identified that the material had to have come from the East. Only question would be if the raw material was grabbed or traded from the east or the actual garment was. There is no evidence that the garment was made just for the funeral.
the question still stands, could there have been Muslim Vikings? This research points to the possibility.
Historians generally avoid the word because of the massive loaded connotation it has among laypeople. It simply doesn't make much sense to historians who are totally aware that our narratives about the past are far less stable than laypeople believe. When you don't believe in the end all authority of the received narrative, then what would so call "revisionist history" be revising?
I'll just show myself out
That's what I'm getting at. Working out some overarching historical conclusions out of something small like that, seems kind of unwise.Maybe they were like alt-right Vikings, flying the flag of their enemies. I mean, imagine how confused anthropologists will be in 1500 years when they find evidence of Americans flying around flags from a country America defeated 70 years prior.
"Could the Nazis have established trade routes to Charlottesville 70-years after Hitler killed himself? Did ancient aliens bring confederate insignia from the past to the 2000s??"
This is complete nonsense. It only spells Allah if you're desperate to see it.
And many people see Allah in the most innocent objects.
They had religion back then? Im so bad at history
They turned Neanderthals into human cannibals though.
In the book they were Neanderthals.And one of the vikings wears fucking conquistador armour, which is just painfully stupid. But the movie remains awesome.
Do we know for sure they were supposed to be Neanderthals? I remember them being regular people, just part of a flesh-eating tribe/cult.
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Seems a bit more complex than you are making it seem. Also apparently this was a shittily done copy job.
Vikings reached far out kingdoms, I can imagine a few might have picked up other customs & faiths, this may or may not be the case here.
I find it interesting those that would immediately dismiss an archeologists body of work with little or no explanitation as to why.
Valhallah. It all makes sense now .
Antonio Banderas.
The biggest thing will be when they will wonder if Nazi where actually Buddhist with all those swatikaMaybe they were like alt-right Vikings, flying the flag of their enemies. I mean, imagine how confused anthropologists will be in 1500 years when they find evidence of Americans flying around flags from a country America defeated 70 years prior.
"Could the Nazis have established trade routes to Charlottesville 70-years after Hitler killed himself? Did ancient aliens bring confederate insignia from the past to the 2000s??"
Or, like today, some people who don't know a lick of Chinese or have any connection to modern day or ancient China, have some ancient Chinese tattoos that just kinda look cool and they think means "BROTHERHOOD" or something, when it probably means "Rain storm" and in 1500 years, if the preserved remains of Chad from Chapel Hill are discovered in some tobacco-water bog, it could really throw sociologists for a loop. "Was ancient Chinese more common in rural America in 2015 than we thought?!?" "Did thousands of American college students speak Greek and worship Greek symbols?!!? Why are their structures covered in Greek lettering!? WHY!?"
That's missing the first letter. That's also standard Arabic script, but the article says it's in Kufic script, which is a little different.
Here is Allah written in Kufic on the flag of Iran:
Compared to the viking one, the H (on the left) is different. Otherwise it's very similar.
Here's another Allah in Kufic:
This one's H (on the left, looks like a mirrored 6) is much closer to the viking one, but the A is laid flat across the top for style. A is usually a tall vertical line, sometimes with a tail on the bottom and usually doesn't attack to the next letter (to the left). But apparently it can since it does on the Iranian flag and the viking design. That makes it indistinguishable from an L, tho. Although in the Iranian flag the A might be one of the horizontal lines. The A in Akhbar clearly is. I'm not sure.
This is complete nonsense. It only spells Allah if you're desperate to see it.
And many people see Allah in the most innocent objects.
Like ice cream ...
A baby's ear ...
A cloud ...
For the rest of the world these similarities are just a coincidence.
Antonio Banderas.
Academia is perfectly willing to incorporate revisionist views of history, it happens all the time. Revisionism isn't seen as a bad thing when it has evidence.
especially 21st Century PCists who want to inject it retro-actively
This is complete nonsense. It only spells Allah if you're desperate to see it.
And many people see Allah in the most innocent objects.
Like ice cream ...
A baby's ear ...
A cloud ...
For the rest of the world these similarities are just a coincidence.
Random guy in the internet dismisses conclusion by a trained scientist and researcher.
Fucking lol.
"But more likely it is a wrongly copied pattern."
There may be something to it.
But honestly when it not only has to be rotated a certain specific way, but then after rotating it also has to be viewed in a mirror to see the script. I don't personally see that as the strongest evidence.
This is what it seems like it could be to me. Someone saw the script thought of it as a pattern and tried to copy the cool looking pattern.
But hopefully this inspires researches to look for more, better, or stronger evidence. If it's true I imagine there could be more evidence to find.
Or just traded with them.
I mean they went to all these places and they were raiding so they probably just took their shit. Especially from Muslim Spain, I'd imagine.
Antonio Banderas.
This
Or just traded with them.