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Could Black Panther surpass Terminator 2?
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Nikana
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Now that I think of it, I could put Blade 2 on the same pedestal as T2. It was that good.
That first one is still enjoyable but mannnnnn some of that cgi is bad, but the second one is good stuff all around. Horribly underated.
goombatommy
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Not a chance. T2 is in a whole other league of its own. Black Panther looks good and will be seeing it opening night.
Mister Apoc
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Is that a common opinion that blade 2 is on T2 level?
LaughingStock
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It's another marvel movie. All their movies follow the same formulas. I think Black Panther will be good but we will have forgotten about it after a week. Like every marvel movie.
T2 is a goddamn classic. A perfect action movie. There's no such thing as "surpass". T2 sits high on top along predator and die hard.
T2 is a goddamn classic. A perfect action movie. There's no such thing as "surpass". T2 sits high on top along predator and die hard.
lifa-cobex
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First time I've ever seen it come up.
Insane Metal
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Nope. Just another Neogaf hyperbole. Any sane person knows T2 is on another level.
Mister Apoc
Demigod of Troll Threads
I am excited to see this thread post February 16th
see if it changed anyone's minds to this question?
see if it changed anyone's minds to this question?
Jack Videogames
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I am excited to see this thread post February 16th
see if it changed anyone's minds to this question?
You are starting to sound shillish tbh
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Idk if anybody said it's on t2 level here. Maybe I missed it, I think it's just reguarded as very under rated. Especially considering it is a super hero movie.
But like others have said T2 is the king.
ZehDon
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What a strange premise for a thread. Terminator 2 is untouched 27 years after it was released, and its impact altered the landscape of the medium, the industry, and audience expectations for an entire generation. Black Panther is the 18th film in a series designed by committee to be disposable, and is scheduled by its creators to be forgotten on May 4th, in favour of the 19th film in the series. So, no, the odds aren't looking good for it.
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Not gonna waste the opportunity to post T2 gifs:
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Zok310
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WinterIsComing
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Could Infinity War surpass Terminator 2?
Droxcy
Member
Has a good chance honestly, also Black Panther got almost perfect scores on Rotten Tomato sitting @ 99%
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/black_panther_2018/
Mahadev
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RT and film critics are a joke of epic proportions now and Disney scores are not to be trusted anymore. Star Wars: TLJ is at 91%.
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LordPezix
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Now i know alot of you thinking, what the heck is this guy talking about well let me explain In the recent black panther spot..there is a scene where the Wakandian Dora Milaje, Okoye an elite warrior says "Guns so primitive" and uses her advanced spear to destroy her enemy
it's interesting to learn that Africans saw guns as primitive weapons when Europeans came over, and they were not really effective weapons
I would like to see a Red Dead without the primitive weapons...no guns, i would like to see a Red Dead that uses more skillful weapons, preferably melee weapons like spears
the recent screenshot dissapointed me when it showed Arthur with a revolver
I know it might be impossible for many, but i was hoping we would get a new type of Red Dead
Dutch, Arthur and the rest of the crew without guns
Just thought I would quote you from the gaming discussion, since this is the same thread.
*golf clap*
prag16
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T2 is all time great. So probably not. To be honest I'm super-fatigued by the Marvel super-saturation regardless. I may not even bother watching Infinity War at all. Logan was good though. And Deadpool.
What the...
That looks... really not good.
What the...
That looks... really not good.
llien
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Not for me. (shocked someone is asking, given you are not trolling)
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Agent_Carnage
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No..
Terminator 2 the the GOAT of Action movies.
Terminator 2 the the GOAT of Action movies.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Everyone seems to forget Blade, probably one of my favourite Marvel Characters.
Now that I think of it, I could put Blade 2 on the same pedestal as T2. It was that good.
As for the Op's question.
Probably T3 based on the trailers, but T2? Nah
John Day
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I mean... Black Panther looks to be awsome awesome 
But come on, Marvel movies are not made to be the pinnacle of action cinema, let’s be real. They follow a formula, and they are popular and entertaining, awesome many of them.
But T2 was such an achievment. So well paced. Great composition. But more than that, they’re so disparate categories even though they’re action, they’re fantasy. I don’t know if you guys will understand me, you know?
But come on, Marvel movies are not made to be the pinnacle of action cinema, let’s be real. They follow a formula, and they are popular and entertaining, awesome many of them.
But T2 was such an achievment. So well paced. Great composition. But more than that, they’re so disparate categories even though they’re action, they’re fantasy. I don’t know if you guys will understand me, you know?
Mister Apoc
Demigod of Troll Threads
Black Panther
Metacritic- 86
Rotton Tomatoes-99
Terminator 2
Metacritic- 75
Rotton Tomatoes- 93
was i right or was i right?
Metacritic- 86
Rotton Tomatoes-99
Terminator 2
Metacritic- 75
Rotton Tomatoes- 93
was i right or was i right?
While we're all (rightly) jabbing Mister Apoc for all his seeming lack of ability to not post dumb ass thread topics he's the one having the last laugh and pulling in more thread replies and traffic than anyone else since the site's implosion.
Is Mister Apoc to Neogaf what Newton's Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica was to science?
Is HE the Black Panther to our Terminator 2?
Time will tell, friends. Time will tell.
Is Mister Apoc to Neogaf what Newton's Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica was to science?
Is HE the Black Panther to our Terminator 2?
Time will tell, friends. Time will tell.
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Rocket Number 22
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Vicetrailia
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I'm hyped, hopefully it's memorable. Superhero movies are good these days, but I'm also kind of indifferent about them.
generaldane
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Seems like your run o the mill Super Hero movie, granted I am not as big a T2 fan as most either
Makariel
Member
Nope. Blade 2 was under-appreciated and a very entertaining movie, but that is not quite the same as saying it is being on T2 level. I need to rewatch it, but I would not be surprised if Blade 2 would still be better (and more interesting) than most of the recent Marvel (and DC) output. Blade absolutely kicks ass and Wesley Snipes deserves a monument (IMHO).
Also, Black Panther is not as highly rated as Paddington 2, which is now officially best movie of all time ever. Suck on that, Citizen Kane.
Mahadev
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It only confirms that movie critics are a joke nowadays.
T2 according to rt is a good as The Last Jedi and Thor Ragnarok, and according to metacritic as good as Thor but much worse than the Last Jedi. These people are either shills or complete morons. Thor's sheer mediocrity and ability to be THAT forgettable is the only thing noteworthy about the movie and don't get me started on TLJ.
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Mister Apoc
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how can you guys simply say its completely forgettable mcu trash?
Wakanda is an Afro-futurist country that is breaking new ground in superhero cinema
Wakanda is an Afro-futurist country that is breaking new ground in superhero cinema
Makariel
Member
I made a quick text search on the 3 pages of this thread, and you are the only person who wrote the word "trash", so I do wonder where you read people calling it MCU trash, since it has clearly not been here? Most people here actually think it could do rather well compared to other MCU movies.
kopitarrulez_11
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Cause it's a good movie sorry haters
octiny
Banned
Obvious troll.
We all know Paddington 2 is the best film of all time.
I was able to see an early preview of BP and I would rate it slightly above Ant-Man. Most definently not up there with the best, let alone even allowed to sniff T2's ass.
There's an obvious bias with the reviews if we're going to be honest here for "breaking ground" just from reading some of them.
We all know Paddington 2 is the best film of all time.
I was able to see an early preview of BP and I would rate it slightly above Ant-Man. Most definently not up there with the best, let alone even allowed to sniff T2's ass.
There's an obvious bias with the reviews if we're going to be honest here for "breaking ground" just from reading some of them.
Chiefonthis
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Yeah I still wonder what criteria you have to meet to get featured on RT. I know they have 2 separate categories, all critics and top critics. But it seems all one needs to do is have a website that features film reviews and you get the participation trophy.
Film critics were always a joke though
Mahadev
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Jack Videogames
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Id change my nickname to Afrofuturist in a heartbeat
Hissing Sid
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I’ll no doubt get around to watching this at some point. Probably when it hits Netflix and I have nothing better to watch. Par for the course for Marvel fare.
TBH I hardly go out of my way to watch any modern films these days.
I’m in the process of going through my 50’s/60’s sci-fi collection again. Fabulous! Like comfort food for the brain.
TBH I hardly go out of my way to watch any modern films these days.
I’m in the process of going through my 50’s/60’s sci-fi collection again. Fabulous! Like comfort food for the brain.
Th3Birdman15.
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Can't really believe this is a topic that people are giving legitimate arguments to...but I guess I'll throw my hat into the fray.
True statement: T2 is one of the greatest action films of all time.
Also a true statement: T2 has been surpassed as an action film by tons of movies, notably, The Raid, The Matrix, John Wick, and The Winter Soldier.
Will Black Panther be the greatest film of all time? Well, it has stiff competition from the likes of Blade Runner, The Empire Strikes Back, Alien, A Space Odyss-- look the point is no, it won't be the greatest film of all time, and do for comic book movies what T2 did for action films. But with THIS cast, and THIS subject matter? The movie is guaranteed to be a financial success, and also it looks pretty damned awesome from what I could glean from the trailers. You can't have an amazing cast like this and produce a shit film, I'm sorry but that's not how acting works.
I know 'The Internet' these days is trying its damnedest to be contrarian (saying The Last Jedi sucked, Bright was a 'good' film, and eating Tide Pods), but if this movie is anywhere near what Marvel has produced recently (Thor:R!) it'll already do something T2 never could: make movie studios realize Black faces not belonging to Denzel, Will, Sam or Morgan can be profitable in lead roles, and that alone will make it far more revolutionary than T2.
True statement: T2 is one of the greatest action films of all time.
Also a true statement: T2 has been surpassed as an action film by tons of movies, notably, The Raid, The Matrix, John Wick, and The Winter Soldier.
Will Black Panther be the greatest film of all time? Well, it has stiff competition from the likes of Blade Runner, The Empire Strikes Back, Alien, A Space Odyss-- look the point is no, it won't be the greatest film of all time, and do for comic book movies what T2 did for action films. But with THIS cast, and THIS subject matter? The movie is guaranteed to be a financial success, and also it looks pretty damned awesome from what I could glean from the trailers. You can't have an amazing cast like this and produce a shit film, I'm sorry but that's not how acting works.
I know 'The Internet' these days is trying its damnedest to be contrarian (saying The Last Jedi sucked, Bright was a 'good' film, and eating Tide Pods), but if this movie is anywhere near what Marvel has produced recently (Thor:R!) it'll already do something T2 never could: make movie studios realize Black faces not belonging to Denzel, Will, Sam or Morgan can be profitable in lead roles, and that alone will make it far more revolutionary than T2.
Cybrwzrd
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I kind of hate to say this, cause it may look bad, but Black Panther suffers from if you don’t give it a good rating, you are Hitler syndrome. I’ll hold my judgement until seeing it instead of taking the critics ratings at face value. Star Wars: TLJ let me down despite its glowing reviews.
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