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Sessions Fires F.B.I. deputy director, Andrew G. McCabe Two Days before His Retirement
- Thread starter Phoenix RISING
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I love how everyone thinks he fired him all his own. He had the FBI's Office of Professional Responsibility say he should fire him. People at the FBI concluded that he should be fired but they do not have the authority to do it so Sessions was the one to do it.
It sucks for him but he did something very wrong and got what was coming to him. I am glad that Sessions had the spine to do it.
FYI the FBI Office of Professional Responsibility was the ones that said that Sessions should recuse himself from the Russia investigation and he did so he has listened to them before.
It sucks for him but he did something very wrong and got what was coming to him. I am glad that Sessions had the spine to do it.
FYI the FBI Office of Professional Responsibility was the ones that said that Sessions should recuse himself from the Russia investigation and he did so he has listened to them before.
mercenar1e
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The firing is a result from the 2016 Investigation into the Clinton Foundation headed by McCabe (this occurred during Hillary Clintons campaign and was damaging). He allowed two top officials to speak with the media and lied about the authorization during an interview.
Interesting to note that the investigation started after Donald Trumps lackey Christopher Wray was sworn in.
It's obvious who pressured both the FBI and Sessions to get rid of him. Hes getting rid of everyone that testified in the Russia investigation and is using this to slander James Comey in the process. Hes as dirty as dirty gets.
Interesting to note that the investigation started after Donald Trumps lackey Christopher Wray was sworn in.
It's obvious who pressured both the FBI and Sessions to get rid of him. Hes getting rid of everyone that testified in the Russia investigation and is using this to slander James Comey in the process. Hes as dirty as dirty gets.
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Nintendo Switch
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Trump forced out just about everyone in the administration that doesn’t outright kiss his ass. So I wouldn’t put a lot of credence on any conclusions made by the people still working in his administration. They are mostly his lapdogs and yes man.
The only thing McCabe did wrong was not immediately shut down the Russia investigation and say under oath that Trump didn’t collude with Russia like Trump wanted him to.
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Phoenix RISING
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Don't forget the pardon Joe Arpaio.
Meanwhile, former CIA director:
Man, some people think this is a game. Man, you do not **** with covert ops. This is going to get ugly.
You're correct, but there's also another layer to this. The firing itself is unfortunate for McCabe and he's kind of reaping what he sowed. However, this is also a very transparent attempt by the Trump team to paint McCabe as an unreliable witness in the Russia investigation. It's a good one too as they're actually not making shit up this time. This is effectively going to war with the FBI/CIA....not that he hasn't already been doing so but you get what I'm saying.
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Trump did not force out the OIG OR THE FBI OPR. This firing is because of an independent investigation by the OIG that is due to be released in a few weeks. He deserves to be fired and his peers at the FBI believe so aswell
Nintendo Switch
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Just like how It was the deputy AG that wrote the memo saying Comey should be fired all on his own. Trump had nothing at all to do with the firing, correct?
I cannot commit on that since I dont know but the OIG is completely independent of the president. Are you gonna say the same thing when Mueller says that theres no collusion? You gonna say Trump had something to do with it?
Whatever the real reason might have been Trump's tweets and actions basically make it all suspect and shit all over the narrative his own people are trying to build. He's so fucking dumb and most likely got yet another lawsuit where is own words are going to be used against him.
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rokkerkory
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Lets see that IG report released to public.
I think it'll be released in a few weeks. It's probably gonna be a big bombshell. I can't wait.
StrikeNinja24
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http://thehill.com/homenews/house/3...to-trump-gloat-now-but-you-will-be-fired-soon
Getting ugly? We are already there.
There was a basis to do it. But trump constant tweets complaining about him and trumps known hatred for anyone crosses him just indicates that they were definitely looking for the excuse. Which isn’t wrong, people just know trump is petty and most likely pushed for this.
Hell if Trump just let the dude retire with his pension in the first place none of this would be blowing up like it has. It was a pure vindictive move but he just has to get a "win" and in the end makes things worse for himself in the process.
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Phoenix RISING
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Yeah, that tweet is accurate. A storm is brewing.
I mean, it's clear that #45 DnGaF, but he makes it worse by being cantankerous about everything.
Do you realize that it isn't Trump firing him? HIS OWN PEERS AT THE FBI SAID FOR HIM TO BE FIRED! Can people get that through their skulls?
Trump has been tweeting about him being fired for months now. The guy had 2 days to retirement and Jeff Sessions canned him at 10pm on a Friday and didn't even do it to his face. As I said, Trump's own words are going to come back to haunt him yet again and if he just let Macabe retire we wouldn't even be talking about any of this.
Sessions did it because the FBI doesn't have the authority to fire him. If the FBI did they would have fired him instead of Sessions. Go research the FBI OPR and come back to me and you will see that they are not being controlled by Trump.
This is just another example of Trump and his cronies handling things in the absolute stupidest manner possible and it blowing up in their faces. That's my point.
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This firing has come because the FBI OPR just got the information that they needed to hand out the recommendation for him to be fired. Again the timing sucks but it is not Trumps fault but hey the optics look bad but I guess people just go along with the narrative and don't actually look into the facts.
The optics look bad because of Trump and crew's words and actions. They shit over their own narrative time and time again when it could have been an open and shut case but now he's most likely got yet another high profile lawsuit coming his way on top of the others he's also facing. Maybe he should have treated Macabe like Stormy Daniels and shut the fuck up.
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The fact is that trump is a loud mouth that is putting himself in the news. He is creating the optics himself. It’s not like trump is an innocent victim of circumstance falling victim to bad timing and that evil people are trying to bring him into it. He is throwing himself in the news about it through his own current tweets, and of course there is going to be a narrative created by it. But that is classic trump
Not too mention Session's own recusal from all things Russian investigation could also come into things seeing how Macabe is a witness to the Mueller probe. As I said, the smarter move for Trump and them would have been to just let him retire and they would have come out far ahead of where they are now, with yet another shit storm hanging over their heads.
He did something illegal and the FBI said he should be fired. I do not care about Trump in this case. The FBI said he should be fired so he is fired. Case closed. If he wants to pursue a legal action then he can do that but if he going to try and say that he shouldn't have been fired then the law suit won't go very far.
You not caring about Trump means about jack shit to the situation at hand which lays entirely at the feet of Trump and his cronies. That lawsuit you said won't go very far will most likely linger around far longer than it should even if it doesn't go anywhere because their is a litany of evidence about it not being so straight forward thanks to Trump himself.
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rokkerkory
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Cnn now reporting mueller has memos recorded by mccabe and trump 
mercenar1e
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Giving money to DNC campaigns are legal, what is your point? He wasn't fired due to this and the investigation on McCabe made no mention of the money received.
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rokkerkory
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Man if firing someone based on legal campaign donations is kosher then Trump’s in for a world of hurt with potentially $ going to hush a pornstar and now maybe even 6 more women.
He was fired for lying not for any legal campaign donation
rokkerkory
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Trump’s tweets say that?
No that is the reason he was fired, read the op and Sessions statement.
"made an unauthorized disclosure to the news media and lacked candor − including under oath − on multiple occasions," lacked candor means lied under oath.
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i_am_ben
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Comey was technically fired because of justified reasons, but in reality we all know why (Donald Trump admitted them later).
Trump and his administration has time and time again gone after people who do not support him. I'm yet to see this as anything other then a continuation of that strategy.
Trump and his administration has time and time again gone after people who do not support him. I'm yet to see this as anything other then a continuation of that strategy.
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I understand how it looks bad. I am just clarifying why he actually was fired. He lied so he was fired. I understand he tweets dumb sh!t but that doesn't change the fact that he lied under oath and he was fired.
mercenar1e
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cant wait for Trump to lie under oath. it should be soon.
TrainedRage
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StrikeNinja24
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So like Sessions did.
i_am_ben
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Well, that's the reason given for his firing, but precedent suggests otherwise..
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Ridcully
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If it was just the Justice Department then maybe this would be a reasonable inference. But the internal office within the FBI that carried out the investigation also gave the recommendation that he be fired. Do you think that it is also full of pro-Trump partisans?
If you think the FBI is corrupt with Trump after everything that has happend I don't know what to tell you other than you're wrong.
When did he lie under oath? I am curious now haha
mercenar1e
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He lied about having contact with the Russians during the campaign. Get some facts
cubicle47b
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If he finds a way to fire Mueller I hope I see you all marching in the streets.
mercenar1e
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In very recent news Mueller is seeking an interview with Donald Trump and has given him and his legal team the questions that will be asked beforehand.
http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...legal-team-questions-for-potential-interview#
It sounds like Mueller already has the answer/evidence to some of the questions that will be asked. Explains why Trump has been calling the investigation a witch hunt. Full on panic mode.
http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...legal-team-questions-for-potential-interview#
It sounds like Mueller already has the answer/evidence to some of the questions that will be asked. Explains why Trump has been calling the investigation a witch hunt.
Full on panic mode.In very recent news Mueller is seeking an interview with Donald Trump and has given him and his legal team the questions that will be asked beforehand.
http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...legal-team-questions-for-potential-interview#
It sounds like Mueller already has the answer/evidence to some of the questions that will be asked. Explains why Trump has been calling the investigation a witch hunt.
I would hold off on that until we see what happens. I feel the same way as you about the FBI once the inspector generals report comes out in a few weeks.