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JordanN

Banned
So you want him to move to a country devoid of any white people to avoid inadvertently accepting any help from them and becoming a hypocrite? That's just ludicrous and unreasonable.
It's not unreasonable. Do you believe there's a mysterious force gluing people to the ground? Do I not hear in the news all the time of people fleeing countries for whatever reasons they find unsatisfactory about it?

If Deepthought_ is true to his word, living in the USA is clearly not for him. You don't want whites to help, living in a country made up by them and contributes doesn't make sense. Or as I mentioned, it's hypocrisy.
 
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JordanN

Banned
Reset's resident commie suggests using the national guard to tear down borders and flood the state with more illegals.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us...grants-rush-border.83133/page-2#post-15361728

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And then we wonder why the rest of America shouldn't turn into California.

And here is the Caravan zerg rushing the border that SG-17 so desperately wants America to open up. It looks like the fucking battle of Normandy.

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Cant believe some of you are actually going to bat for some women who sell nudes to pervs online lol

I'll go to bat for a respectable woman any day of the week.
I'm not gonna shed a tear for these chicks who cant get a real job, prob receive government benefits, and take in a tax free income for acting like sloots.

IMG


Above all us...DO IT FOR THE LULZ!!!!
 
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Barsinister

Banned
Racism against White people continues to be promoted by Resetera.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/do...-it-when-white-people-try-to-help-them.83140/

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Not a photoshop. A literal thread that starts with "not like white people".

Again, imagine a reverse scenario. "Do other whites not like it when minorities try to help them?" You would be called a Nazi and hate speech.

Also, anyone notice the stark irony that a user like Deepthought_ can refuse to integrate in a majority white country? If he doesn't want whites to help him, why is he living there and not in some other country?
If the fire department were called, he better let his house burn down if the firefighters are white.

Am I the only one who wants to reply with "too" prideful?
 

Acerac

Banned
Is getting audited a big deal? Why are people freaking out about something that should take a trivial amount of time to straighten out?

I suppose it'd be inconvenient, but I don't see how asking for some paperwork amounts to a harassment campaign. It's easy to keep track of numbers with online logs so pulling them up shouldn't be more than a minor annoyance.
 

Airola

Member
JordanN JordanN I understand if you want to show how Reset has some widespread insanity going on with certain subject matters but a thread where one person asks about something stupid while most of the replies are level-headed isn't a good example. If anything that thread should be an example of how things aren't as bad there as they could be.

Maybe you could say how the moderators let a thread like that be, but even then they at least haven't banned anyone from criticizing the OP.

We shouldn't hope for Reset to become worse every day. We should hope it to get better. Showing an example like this kinda just shows you want them to have more and more insane posts instead of getting more sane.

I'll remember that next time you say fuck all about any kind of harassment in the future.

If life was a Telltale game you wouldn't :D
 

Papa

Banned
Is getting audited a big deal? Why are people freaking out about something that should take a trivial amount of time to straighten out?

I suppose it'd be inconvenient, but I don't see how asking for some paperwork amounts to a harassment campaign. It's easy to keep track of numbers with online logs so pulling them up shouldn't be more than a minor annoyance.

I think people may be concerned that it would lead to doxxing, but I don’t see an issue with it if it’s only reporting to the IRS. They have everyone’s personal info already and it’s kinda their job to identify tax evaders anyway.
 

JordanN

Banned
JordanN JordanN I understand if you want to show how Reset has some widespread insanity going on with certain subject matters but a thread where one person asks about something stupid while most of the replies are level-headed isn't a good example. If anything that thread should be an example of how things aren't as bad there as they could be.

Maybe you could say how the moderators let a thread like that be, but even then they at least haven't banned anyone from criticizing the OP.

We shouldn't hope for Reset to become worse every day. We should hope it to get better. Showing an example like this kinda just shows you want them to have more and more insane posts instead of getting more sane.

Resetera is never going improve. Do you remember how the website was first founded?
30 year old man children on GAF who suicided their accounts with porn claiming to be feminists/diversity first people only to create a website that tolerates constant death threats against Trump and rampant anti-white racism.

This is why I don't care if someone has an issue with me reposting the craziness in this thread.

Feelings never mattered because Resetera's entire foundation was rotten from the core, and continues to be.

Here's an example. Another post on Resetera that calls for dismantling of borders. If you don't support open borders "you're a monster".
https://www.resetera.com/threads/us...grants-rush-border.83133/page-5#post-15369485

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They will shame you for not supporting their ideas, but I'm suppose to feel ashamed for criticizing them? Nope, I don't follow that.
 
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Airola

Member
Resetera is never going improve. Do you remember how the website was first founded?
30 year old man children on GAF who suicided their accounts with porn claiming to be feminists/diversity first people only to create a website that tolerates constant death threats against Trump and rampant anti-white racism.

This is why I don't care if someone has an issue with me reposting the craziness in this thread.

Feelings never mattered because Resetera's entire foundation was rotten from the core, and continues to be.

Here's an example. Another post on Resetera that calls for dismantling of borders. If you don't support open borders "you're a monster".
https://www.resetera.com/threads/us...grants-rush-border.83133/page-5#post-15369485

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They will shame you for not supporting their ideas, but I'm suppose to feel ashamed for criticizing them? Nope, I don't follow that.

But that thread was a clear example of there being lots of people who call out the bullshit in the OP. If that's not an improvement I don't know what is.

If you are willing to pick up one stupid post and ignore people there dismissing it as nonsense you should also accept people who criticize this board for stupid single "alt-right" posts too.

This kind of picking up each and every stupid post on Reset no matter how it is actually dealt with on that board reminds me too much of people picking every word Trump says and trying to spin it as something evil or stupid and not wanting to look at the context at all.

I remember all too well why and how Reset was formed. I had zero interest to join the forum because of the insanity of the whole ordeal and because their reasons were bullshit. When they were here I dared to question their "everything Trump says and does is evil" and "voting for third party is evil" narratives, but I have zero interest to go and tell them that in their new forum. It's good those extremists filtered to their own board.
That said, I'm all ok with people showing whatever bad things are written on that board especially if there's evidence of the moderator team and the majority of the forum thoughtlessly following their ideologies with insanity, but when people deserve credit they deserve credit. There are too many people not willing to give credit on Trump (or whoever they currently think is the enemy) for anything ever. I don't think we should counter that by attacking people and ideologies with the same kind of thoughtlessness. That "I don't want whites to help me" thread clearly shows how most posters aren't willing to line with the bullshit OP, and that is nothing but a good thing.
 

JordanN

Banned
This kind of picking up each and every stupid post on Reset no matter how it is actually dealt with on that board reminds me too much of people picking every word Trump says and trying to spin it as something evil or stupid and not wanting to look at the context at all.
I don't give Reset any benefit of the doubt, because change can only come from within.

As I've stated before, I'm only a messenger. I want people to see the things I reposted and come to their own conclusions.

That is how critical thinking works. It doesn't matter if you can find one example that says "But look! They're improving".
Because as this thread shows, I can post examples every page showing they're not.

Only the people of Resetera can control their destiny of whether they want to be viewed as hateful or not.
 
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Wonder if we will ever see hetrophobia or white shaming as a ban reason


If that ever happens I will get the sweetnicole sjw eggplant tattooed on a bodypart
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Yoshi

Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Is getting audited a big deal? Why are people freaking out about something that should take a trivial amount of time to straighten out?

I suppose it'd be inconvenient, but I don't see how asking for some paperwork amounts to a harassment campaign. It's easy to keep track of numbers with online logs so pulling them up shouldn't be more than a minor annoyance.
They look extra careful at your tax report and any small error you might have done which would otherwise have gone unnoticed can get you into trouble then. It is also extra work. It is very inconvenient and if it is just the result of harrassment, completely unnecessary.
Cant believe some of you are actually going to bat for some women who sell nudes to pervs online lol

I'll go to bat for a respectable woman any day of the week.
I'm not gonna shed a tear for these chicks who cant get a real job, prob receive government benefits, and take in a tax free income for acting like sloots.
Other people sell or make firearms, distribute dangerous nonsense like creationism or instigate hate (Fox) for a living. All things considered, sitting nude in front of a camera is nowhere close to the lower limit of what people can do for a living. I see no reason to disrespect.

On the "refuse all help from whites" post: Yes, op is a racist, obviously, and statements like "Because I feel like they have a savior complex with a false sense of superiority. " are clearly racist, he should receive a ban for it. On the other hand, there are only few people in agreement and most call it the stupidity it is. So hardly something worth discussing when it comes to Resetera as a whole. It is not a typical position there.
you should also accept people who criticize this board for stupid single "alt-right" posts too.
Since a good portion of those come from JordanN himself, he hardly has a reason to complain one way or the other ;).
 
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Airola

Member
What comes to the camgirl tax thing I kinda see it funny that some people started to call out tax evasion on streamers.
These people aren't being noble though in any sense of the word. Their case would be more believable if they did the same to everyone who streams and takes money from it without paying taxes.

People want to see boobies but they don't like it if someone makes money off showing boobies. People want to see video game characters wear skimpy clothes but they don't want a skimpy clothed woman to play a video game. :D

Cant believe some of you are actually going to bat for some women who sell nudes to pervs online lol

I'll go to bat for a respectable woman any day of the week.
I'm not gonna shed a tear for these chicks who cant get a real job, prob receive government benefits, and take in a tax free income for acting like sloots.

I believe your care for "respectable women" the moment you stop entertaining yourself with any form of pornography online or offline. :p


I don't give Reset any benefit of the doubt

Well, that much I've been able to figure out myself :D
I guess I'm just going to agree to disagree here.
 

Acerac

Banned
How is it very inconvenient? You look up the numbers and resubmit them. Logs are automatically kept for this kind of thing.

That is of course assuming that these girls are being honest. If they are lying about their income I can see them finding it much more frustrating. Granted, in those scenarios I find myself having less sympathy for their plight.
 

Yoshi

Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
How is it very inconvenient? You look up the numbers and resubmit them. Logs are automatically kept for this kind of thing.

That is of course assuming that these girls are being honest. If they are lying about their income I can see them finding it much more frustrating. Granted, in those scenarios I find myself having less sympathy for their plight.
It is very unlikely that such an investigation only consists of "please send us your tax reports once more". Why would they ask for data they already have? If they truly investigate this, they will need to get additional information to check the validity of the data you submitted before. This certainly is an additional hassle.
 

Acerac

Banned
Sure, but it's such an insignificant one that I'm not sure why anyone would give a fuck. Well, anyone who wasn't lying about their income. If somebody was lying about how much they made I could certainly see it being a big deal.

Do you think more people are upset because of the minor inconvenience of sending in numbers that are automatically logged and take seconds to pull up or do you think it is because they know how many people are lying when it comes to pay their share of taxes?

Granted, I'm not the kind of person who would assume that most cam girls are lying about their income. It's just seeing the huge blowback that makes me wonder if perhaps it is more common than I anticipated.
 

Yoshi

Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Sure, but it's such an insignificant one that I'm not sure why anyone would give a fuck. Well, anyone who wasn't lying about their income. If somebody was lying about how much they made I could certainly see it being a big deal.

Do you think more people are upset because of the minor inconvenience of sending in numbers that are automatically logged and take seconds to pull up or do you think it is because they know how many people are lying when it comes to pay their share of taxes?

Granted, I'm not the kind of person who would assume that most cam girls are lying about their income. It's just seeing the huge blowback that makes me wonder if perhaps it is more common than I anticipated.
As I said, it's putting them under additional scrutiny (if the reports are successful) and that means that you can run into serious trouble if you made some honest mistakes in your taxes. Tax laws can be complicated and some small issue might go unnoticed, but under additional scrutiny may cause you trouble. And it is pretty annoying to get reported without any kind of evidence just because some people are hateful.

Enygger_Tzu Enygger_Tzu What is this supposed to show? Some "webcam prostitute" posted some mildly offensive text, so fuck all of those despicible people? I am pretty sure that there exist people in your profession who have written worse stuff than Queen of Ass has here.
 

Acerac

Banned
As I said, it's putting them under additional scrutiny (if the reports are successful) and that means that you can run into serious trouble if you made some honest mistakes in your taxes. Tax laws can be complicated and some small issue might go unnoticed, but under additional scrutiny may cause you trouble. And it is pretty annoying to get reported without any kind of evidence just because some people are hateful.

Enygger_Tzu Enygger_Tzu What is this supposed to show? Some "webcam prostitute" posted some mildly offensive text, so fuck all of those despicible people? I am pretty sure that there exist people in your profession who have written worse stuff than Queen of Ass has here.
Sure, I could see it being mildly annoying. The blowback I've seen seems far larger than what one might expect from something that is mildly annoying.

Can we just be honest and say people are mad because they know a large %age of these girls are lying and will be caught? Or do we have to pretend they're upset because these otherwise honest folk will need to waste 30 minutes of their time showing that they are in fact, honest? It can be fun to pretend but come now, we both know what the issue is here.
 

Yoshi

Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Sure, I could see it being mildly annoying. The blowback I've seen seems far larger than what one might expect from something that is mildly annoying.

Can we just be honest and say people are mad because they know a large %age of these girls are lying and will be caught? Or do we have to pretend they're upset because these otherwise honest folk will need to waste 30 minutes of their time showing that they are in fact, honest? It can be fun to pretend but come now, we both know what the issue is here.
In a club, chances are much higher than in usual circumstances that people own illegal drugs, but if I just go and call the cops on random people in a club because surely they are in possession of illegal drugs, that' mighty shitty. If you have actual evidence of illegal behaviour, file a report, if you don't, leave other people alone. It is super low-level harrassment and in spirit very close to racial profiling.

At the same time, this is used as a way to denigrade those people in similar ways as Enygger_Tzu Enygger_Tzu and @PKM have done here. If you do not like their content, do not consume it, why do you have to harrass those people?
 

Oheao

Banned
Hey everyone, ResetEra member here. I just created a NeoGAF account, and to be honest, I don't really see myself switching my main forum (in fact I don't even know how often I'll post here). So, I'll give some thoughts on the site:

  • Yes, ResetEra is far from perfect. I have many issues with it myself (particularly the lack of transparency and too much ambiguity for my liking) and yes, many people can be overbearing with their liberalness
  • However, in terms of deciding a forum, I don't look for the perfect place. I look for the best in terms of activity (ResetERA is very active) and not allowing aspects that I want to deal with. So, while ResetERA may be a bit ban happy at times, I'd rather it be that way than not banning posts that support sexism, racism, transphobia, etc.
  • As for NeoGAF, I don't talk to you guys here much so I can't speak for how you are in that regard, but lurking this thread I have seen some posts that I find troublesome, and I think they highlight very well why many ERA members don't come here
  • Many ERA members have extreme depression and social anxiety, myself included. So, many use ERA as an outlet, which while potentially problematic as it could exacerbate depression, is also a place where many want to just be able to hang out without having to deal with all of the troubles and hardships of life.
  • This is essentially a futile endeavour, this thread, since everybody's mind is already set. The NeoGAF users have made up their mind on the ResetERA users, and vice versa. I know from my time dealing with people on VGChartz (which I ended up leaving for ERA) that most conversations end up with neither side changing their views. And I generally won't change mine because I tend to consider it to be correct.
 

Enygger_Tzu

Banned
What is this supposed to show? Some "webcam prostitute" posted some mildly offensive text, so fuck all of those despicible people? I am pretty sure that there exist people in your profession who have written worse stuff than Queen of Ass has here.

As I work as a stevedore, be certain of it, I just wish to point out that the defence of them is a bit unjustified.
 

dionysus

Yaldog
I am against weaponizing the tools of government. So yea, reporting people with no evidence, even if you are statistically probably correct is wrong.

For example, I could report every waiter I meet in restaurants for tax evasion on their tips and statistically probably be correct more than 50% of the time. It is still an asshole thing to do with no real evidence.

Harassment and guilt by association with a group, whether it be race, class, job, political alignment, religion, etc., is something I criticize the far left and academia for supporting. I don't want my side of the spectrum doing the same thing.
 
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Yoshi

Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
As I work as a stevedore, be certain of it, I just wish to point out that the defence of them is a bit unjustified.
What's there to defend here? My point was that you did not raise any valid point against this group of people by highlighting a single (mildly) offensive tweet by one member of the group.
 

Sub_Level

wants to fuck an Asian grill.
WHY CAN'T YOU SEXIST MISOGYNISTIC BIGOTS RESPECT WOMEN?! LOOK AT THOSE DIVINE AND INNOCENT CREATURES!
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Uh dude thats a domination kink. Men pay her to call them losers. There are a multtude of femdom subgenres ranging from Bratty Princess to Humiliation to Electrecutrix (they roleplay as killing you) to Financial Domination. There's even a smelling feet/smelly socks one.

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^An illustrated example. Don't ask me how I know this. The point is you can't just get perturbed about the woman. You also have to hold the men who pay her responsible. Its not women being mean in a vacuum.
 

Enygger_Tzu

Banned
Sub_Level Sub_Level I hold both the women and the, white knights, the Gammas and Omegas responsible for making this thing profitable as well.

Also, is the girl cosplaying as Red Riding Hood in the bottom left part?
 

Yoshi

Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Sub_Level Sub_Level I hold both the women and the, white knights, the Gammas and Omegas responsible for making this thing profitable as well.

Also, is the girl cosplaying as Red Riding Hood in the bottom left part?
What's the issue with that being profitable though, why would anyone be made responsible? I mean, I could see complaining about the demand side, because it is a reductive view on the content creators, but on the offering side? They offer content that hurts no one (except maybe themselves), that is being requested, and earn money that way, what's the issue?
 

Dr. Claus

Vincit qui se vincit

Are you really comparing a caravan of people (regardless of them trying to enter legally or illegally) to one of the most famous military operations in the past 200 years? C'mon man.

Hey everyone, ResetEra member here. I just created a NeoGAF account, and to be honest, I don't really see myself switching my main forum (in fact I don't even know how often I'll post here). So, I'll give some thoughts on the site:

  • Yes, ResetEra is far from perfect. I have many issues with it myself (particularly the lack of transparency and too much ambiguity for my liking) and yes, many people can be overbearing with their liberalness
  • However, in terms of deciding a forum, I don't look for the perfect place. I look for the best in terms of activity (ResetERA is very active) and not allowing aspects that I want to deal with. So, while ResetERA may be a bit ban happy at times, I'd rather it be that way than not banning posts that support sexism, racism, transphobia, etc.
  • As for NeoGAF, I don't talk to you guys here much so I can't speak for how you are in that regard, but lurking this thread I have seen some posts that I find troublesome, and I think they highlight very well why many ERA members don't come here
  • Many ERA members have extreme depression and social anxiety, myself included. So, many use ERA as an outlet, which while potentially problematic as it could exacerbate depression, is also a place where many want to just be able to hang out without having to deal with all of the troubles and hardships of life.
  • This is essentially a futile endeavour, this thread, since everybody's mind is already set. The NeoGAF users have made up their mind on the ResetERA users, and vice versa. I know from my time dealing with people on VGChartz (which I ended up leaving for ERA) that most conversations end up with neither side changing their views. And I generally won't change mine because I tend to consider it to be correct.

Quantity != Quality. You are correct that Era has far more quantity, but almost none of it has any sort of quality to it. The posts are so heavily biased and curated. There is plenty of evidence to show that people are going out of their way to try to ban others for "wrong think" in their private discords, mods silencing people over the most minor of differences in opinion, and falsely claim sexism, racism, transphobia, etc. Those are real concerns, serious issues that they completely make light of.

Mental illness is not an excuse for being a terrible person, or promoting terrible actions. And yes, if you falsely make claims of whatever -ism/-ic/-ist you want to state, you are a pretty shit person. There is 7-6 years of evidence to show the horrible actions of that community and their moderators/owners. Unlike here, there are far more than a handful of bad eggs or posts. There is literally an entire site that was made to showcase the horrible moderation and pitiful actions of those members (resetera.kiwifarms) and plenty of stuff from when they were on GAF.

Note: I am referring to the royal you, not specifically to Oheao. This probably doesn't need to be stated, but better to be safe than sorry.
 

Enygger_Tzu

Banned
What's the issue with that being profitable though, why would anyone be made responsible? I mean, I could see complaining about the demand side, because it is a reductive view on the content creators, but on the offering side? They offer content that hurts no one (except maybe themselves), that is being requested, and earn money that way, what's the issue?

No issue, just scrutinizing, and I think it is the prerogative of every person to do so. If it earns the spite of the afore mentioned Gammas, Omegas and white knights, and some "ism", "ist", "phobic" and "miso" suffix/prefix, icing on the cake.
 

Blam

Member
Is getting audited a big deal? Why are people freaking out about something that should take a trivial amount of time to straighten out?

I suppose it'd be inconvenient, but I don't see how asking for some paperwork amounts to a harassment campaign. It's easy to keep track of numbers with online logs so pulling them up shouldn't be more than a minor annoyance.

You know this whole things being made into some huge deal, but Patreon does taxes on your behalf after a certain threshold, so does Manyvids, so does PH, so does literally every single adult, money service. Fuck even steam does this.

That girl that got audited probably did it through CashApp, PayPal, and other means of manual transactions. She did this to herself, and actually fuck that PayPal Buisness also asks you to do your taxes lmao.

It's really on the fault of the people getting audited if they don't properly do their taxes, but nearly every single one does it properly because they aren't stupid.

Uh dude thats a domination kink. Men pay her to call them losers. There are a multtude of femdom subgenres ranging from Bratty Princess to Humiliation to Electrecutrix (they roleplay as killing you) to Financial Domination. There's even a smelling feet/smelly socks one.
^An illustrated example. Don't ask me how I know this. The point is you can't just get perturbed about the woman. You also have to hold the men who pay her responsible. Its not women being mean in a vacuum.

Yup people call this scamming but it's willingly being given over for a service lol. People just don't understand kinks.

Sub_Level Sub_Level I hold both the women and the, white knights, the Gammas and Omegas responsible for making this thing profitable as well.

Also, is the girl cosplaying as Red Riding Hood in the bottom left part?

It's profitable because people get off on it. That's why people pay for their porn/fetish. Also nah she's not just some slacking clothing.

Hey everyone, ResetEra member here. I just created a NeoGAF account, and to be honest, I don't really see myself switching my main forum (in fact I don't even know how often I'll post here). So, I'll give some thoughts on the site:

  • Yes, ResetEra is far from perfect. I have many issues with it myself (particularly the lack of transparency and too much ambiguity for my liking) and yes, many people can be overbearing with their liberalness
  • However, in terms of deciding a forum, I don't look for the perfect place. I look for the best in terms of activity (ResetERA is very active) and not allowing aspects that I want to deal with. So, while ResetERA may be a bit ban happy at times, I'd rather it be that way than not banning posts that support sexism, racism, transphobia, etc.
  • As for NeoGAF, I don't talk to you guys here much so I can't speak for how you are in that regard, but lurking this thread I have seen some posts that I find troublesome, and I think they highlight very well why many ERA members don't come here
  • Many ERA members have extreme depression and social anxiety, myself included. So, many use ERA as an outlet, which while potentially problematic as it could exacerbate depression, is also a place where many want to just be able to hang out without having to deal with all of the troubles and hardships of life.
  • This is essentially a futile endeavour, this thread, since everybody's mind is already set. The NeoGAF users have made up their mind on the ResetERA users, and vice versa. I know from my time dealing with people on VGChartz (which I ended up leaving for ERA) that most conversations end up with neither side changing their views. And I generally won't change mine because I tend to consider it to be correct.

This was something I had suggested alongside public bans, and the rest of it all I was trying to get them to push open all the development channels, and ban discussions to a read-only section of the forum, and they sorta refused to do such when I did bring it up before the site came up.

See now I'd agree with you that they are ban happy, but they use those 3 as a blanket to ban whomever they feel like. This thread only brings to light shit like that and posts where the reason doesn't even make sense, and the people on that site baiting others to get banned. I wish it was easily what you said but it's not the mods are corrupt as fuck and have forum members baiting for them to ban users. It's stupid that shit like that exists but this is what happens when mods are picked on who they know and their skin color.

This is extremely problematic as most users will not care about you up until a point with what they hear and will try to cut ties and make your life a living hell very quickly. It isn't something that has happened to me, there's others on this site that have gone through the same things as well. ERA I'd say could also be a cause of depression and anxiety with how harsh some people are on there.

You say this but we are open minded and if you can bring something to the table that is different then what we are saying we aren't going to ban you or dog pile you we will response back either agreeing or come back with a counter point. We don't have our minds set. We've been and have had conflicting messages at so many points throughout this thread it's sorta crazy. We aren't really mindset on the entire site, but just certain people that we see and issues we see popping up on the site, and we want to make attention to it.
 
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Oheao

Banned
Are you really comparing a caravan of people (regardless of them trying to enter legally or illegally) to one of the most famous military operations in the past 200 years? C'mon man.



Quantity != Quality. You are correct that Era has far more quantity, but almost none of it has any sort of quality to it. The posts are so heavily biased and curated. There is plenty of evidence to show that people are going out of their way to try to ban others for "wrong think" in their private discords, mods silencing people over the most minor of differences in opinion, and falsely claim sexism, racism, transphobia, etc. Those are real concerns, serious issues that they completely make light of.

Mental illness is not an excuse for being a terrible person, or promoting terrible actions. And yes, if you falsely make claims of whatever -ism/-ic/-ist you want to state, you are a pretty shit person. There is 7-6 years of evidence to show the horrible actions of that community and their moderators/owners. Unlike here, there are far more than a handful of bad eggs or posts. There is literally an entire site that was made to showcase the horrible moderation and pitiful actions of those members (resetera.kiwifarms) and plenty of stuff from when they were on GAF.

Note: I am referring to the royal you, not specifically to Oheao. This probably doesn't need to be stated, but better to be safe than sorry.

I could understand the quality and quantity argument if both sites had a similar number of users, but I don't think it's merely that people on ERA spam more posts but also that there are simply more people that participate in general. I can't speak for what happens in the private Discord servers as the ERA-related ones I'm in generally aren't run by the ERA staff, so there is a lot of variation between the servers. They don't ban everyone on ERA for having different opinions, rather it is specific to what they are trying to post. I am a socialist so my posts frequently clash with the majority of those on the site who are either liberals or social democrats. I did get a warning once for whataboutism by comparing Obama to Trump and asking why people praise Obama when a lot of his policies are similar to Trump's, but other than that I haven't gotten in trouble for my views (I did get banned once for admitting to piracy, though).

I never said mental illness was an excuse for being a terrible person, what I meant was that many people on ERA don't want to have to deal with their daily troubles and shit on the forum as well. However, I do realize that constantly posting and commenting on political topics and the problems of today's society kind of defeats that purpose. If you want to say that ERA has become a hivemind in that regard I can kind of agree, however what I don't agree with is the implications that come with it, specifically that other forums don't have the same situation.
 
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Acerac

Banned
In a club, chances are much higher than in usual circumstances that people own illegal drugs, but if I just go and call the cops on random people in a club because surely they are in possession of illegal drugs, that' mighty shitty. If you have actual evidence of illegal behaviour, file a report, if you don't, leave other people alone. It is super low-level harrassment and in spirit very close to racial profiling.

At the same time, this is used as a way to denigrade those people in similar ways as Enygger_Tzu Enygger_Tzu and @PKM have done here. If you do not like their content, do not consume it, why do you have to harrass those people?
I just fail to see how requiring people to pay taxes is harassment. Is it because of who is doing it, like if the IRS randomly audited these people it'd be fine, right?

You do know that cops park outside of bars explicitly to catch drunks, right? Is this immoral?
 

Oheao

Banned
Well, I can't PM at the moment so I guess I'll just say upfront why I created an account here. To be honest, for most of the people who post in here, I don't take much stock in what they say. However, I am wondering what happened with Blam Blam because she was a part of ERA's creation before what I assume was a falling out, and being the ever-curious fellow that I am, I really wonder what happened behind the scenes (if that is allowed to be stated of course).
 

JordanN

Banned
I just fail to see how requiring people to pay taxes is harassment. Is it because of who is doing it, like if the IRS randomly audited these people it'd be fine, right?

You do know that cops park outside of bars explicitly to catch drunks, right? Is this immoral?

Lol, I'm reminded last year, I was working a job and there was a police car parked right outside a speeding zone.

Because the police car was parked right outside the curve, he would arrest people without the drivers knowing where did he even come from.
 

dionysus

Yaldog
I just fail to see how requiring people to pay taxes is harassment. Is it because of who is doing it, like if the IRS randomly audited these people it'd be fine, right?

You do know that cops park outside of bars explicitly to catch drunks, right? Is this immoral?

Yea, it would be fine if the IRS randomly audited them. Or even if the IRS had some algorithm that flagged them as more likely. (The IRS actually does do this by algorithm, if you take certain deductions you are much much more likely to be audited. I am not sure if they do this by occupation though.)

Look, I just think harassment without evidence is wrong. Even a relatively mild harassment like this one.
 

Acerac

Banned
Yea, it would be fine if the IRS randomly audited them. Or even if the IRS had some algorithm that flagged them as more likely. (The IRS actually does do this by algorithm, if you take certain deductions you are much much more likely to be audited. I am not sure if they do this by occupation though.)

Look, I just think harassment without evidence is wrong. Even a relatively mild harassment like this one.
So you are feel that cops parking outside of bars to catch drunk drivers is wrong. I respectfully disagree.

It sucks when you get harassed for breaking laws, sure. Hell, I've been harassed when I am innocent and it sucks. I just feel the blowback this is getting is wildly disproportionate to the small amount of paperwork that it would require to iron out.

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That is... of course... assuming that there isn't tons of unpaid tax money that people know about. If there were then the blowback would make way more sense, but I don't think people like admitting that part cuz it makes their arguments look shitty.
 

Blam

Member
Well, I can't PM at the moment so I guess I'll just say upfront why I created an account here. To be honest, for most of the people who post in here, I don't take much stock in what they say. However, I am wondering what happened with Blam Blam because she was a part of ERA's creation before what I assume was a falling out, and being the ever-curious fellow that I am, I really wonder what happened behind the scenes (if that is allowed to be stated of course).

Well where do I start. Basically after the whole situation went down. I asked to help make the design and logos for resetera. I joined the discord and started talking to everyone who was involved, Cerium, Nicole, all the other admins etc. So maybe a day in we had accrued a bunch of people to help with various things, at this point ZhugeEX & Shinobi were on the team, as were a couple others Ferny, etc.

It was dysfunctional to say the least everyone who wanted to help was invited which I knew was going to be a problem coming down to it just with how much they rushed. Discord at that time was also going crazy. Well lets say maybe late that Friday, We were working on logos me and the other designer on the team at the time. While this was going on site guidelines, and rules were to be established, which they sorta were but not to the extent that was talked about. As it stands I had mentioned we don't run on ads ever. And have some sort of counter on the site to show where the money was going, and all that a lot of ideas scrapped because "transparency" is not an issue. Regardless around this time the first logo got leaked, and pushed around, and we had a wave of kicks, and then a few of the people kicked (me included) were re invited, and I continued to work on logos and started a rough design on the theme for the site, and then after posting a WIP of my logo it got leaked again prior to it maybe 20 minutes after. Surely they'd fix it this time, so they kicked all the designers and put them in a separate group, and everything was going fine as we had bought a theme to modify and push as the resetera theme as we couldn't wait to put the site up.

Now around this time. I had mentioned I wouldn't stop posting on GAF, even after the whole debacle and really it was a shitshow then. Then someone brought this up to Nicole, probably a designer as maybe 10 minutes later I was on the test bed for the design of the site, and I saw my post being skewed on the testbed as the placeholder logo. Now right after this I was kicked from the design discord server, and then Nicole kicked and banned me after "publicly" (in the private channel for trusted users at the time) calling me out and talking shit. Now right after this I was basically pushed around left and right for things that I didn't do. I had a lot of back and forth with Cerium about what happened.

At first nobody could tell me what I had done, and then after persistently talking to them for a couple of days after ERA was being worked on so around Monday I had finally gotten at least on of the alleged reasons of about why I was banned/kicked from the team. Now at this time I was told that I had leaked the logos on 8chan. Which I immediately denied as being true since I still to this day have not even found a thread on there which had my logos on them. Then I proceeded to ask others about why I was kicked and I then I got that I was leaking invite codes, and the only server I was in at the time the CanDealsGAF didn't actually let me see the codes to the signup. Since I had already made an account there to test site stability and the such. So another false accusation made against me.

I continued to help anyway I could even after all this, and basically it ran all the way till when they banned me the first time "to test the warning system" except this ban was issued by Nicole who had shown an extreme distaste to me and refused to even mention my name. By this time I had been banned for a week or 2 once again asking away with Cerium about site progress and if help was needed. So he overturned my ban, and things went on their merry way. Once again I got banned for a second time this time for an email. And this is where they pushed the narrative that I leaked the invite codes, logos, and everything else. Which once again there was literally no proof not even proof of these posts ever occurring on 8chan, but basically I was a dumbass who used a throwaway email (cock.li) which they linked to 8chan because they allow you to create an email using their domain (news flash it's being run by a 4channer).

So basically they permabanned me using a "list of banned domains", but this list doesn't preban already registered accounts just doesn't allow previously used emails to be used, now I had asked Cerium to help me out by just changing my email which he just ignored for the most part, and 2ish days later responded telling me he couldn't do it, and just excuses basically, lastly he mentioned that nobody on the admin team would want me to return. Which at the time I was beyond extremely depressed. So I just blew up on twitter, made a lot of long ass posts on twitter and discord and cemented that I wouldn't ever be allowed on their site again.

Basically all of this stemmed from a bunch of bullshit which they have not to this day proven to be legit, and any other discussions against me to get unbanned just come up to saying "we moved on and don't wanna deal with this shit sorry"

Could I also just add a side note I said we should be public with the money earned on ERA for site upgrades and other shit, but currently ERA Clear is $40/year. Giantbomb asks for $30 and they are able to make all that. Doesn't this just spell greed? Like a shitload of it? ERA doesn't even upgrade their site, it's running on the same boxes that we had in the beginning this also coming from the team having a Google Cloud, AWS, and Azure engineer team on there.

Also the site only costs $600 to run haha, the amount of excess money people are throwing at ERA hurts, and to this day my logo still shows up on the images for the site when you do search it which is nice lol.

SweetNicole still holds this grudge for something I never did and no amount of proof even me asking the owner of 8chan to confirm if my IP was even in the same location as those posts. Transparent my ass.
 
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Airola

Member
I just fail to see how requiring people to pay taxes is harassment. Is it because of who is doing it, like if the IRS randomly audited these people it'd be fine, right?

You do know that cops park outside of bars explicitly to catch drunks, right? Is this immoral?

When you choose to do it because of someone's gender or profession or whatever individual detail, it can be seen as harassment. Not 100% sure about harassment but this at the very least shows that people have an axe to grind with certain type of certain gender people with certain types of assets in a certain type of situation.

Being a "white knight" is embarrassing on its own but I'm starting to think that being the opposite of "white knight" might be equally up there with it.
 

JordanN

Banned
Resetera likes their Stalin-esque purges.

Anyone who shows a sign of free thinking was going to be the first to go. They want their inner circle of moderators to be insufferable people in order to run an insufferable website.
 

Blam

Member
I just fail to see how requiring people to pay taxes is harassment. Is it because of who is doing it, like if the IRS randomly audited these people it'd be fine, right?

You do know that cops park outside of bars explicitly to catch drunks, right? Is this immoral?
I know where you're coming from, but it's being put as harrassment because of who these women are and what they do.
 

dionysus

Yaldog
So you are feel that cops parking outside of bars to catch drunk drivers is wrong. I respectfully disagree.

It sucks when you get harassed for breaking laws, sure. Hell, I've been harassed when I am innocent and it sucks. I just feel the blowback this is getting is wildly disproportionate to the small amount of paperwork that it would require to iron out.

...

That is... of course... assuming that there isn't tons of unpaid tax money that people know about. If there were then the blowback would make way more sense, but I don't think people like admitting that part cuz it makes their arguments look shitty.

No. I am ok with cops targeting bars if they are going after drunk drivers. That is reasonable increased scrutiny that is easy to clear up. I think it is wrong for people that don't like someone in a bar to call the police on them when they haven't done anything, or at least have no evidence of wrong doing. That is a more analogous situation.

To clarify further. It seems you are focusing on the government's role in this. It is within their purview to enforce the law. No disagreement. My issue is with people abusing the report function of the IRS, not the IRS audit process
 
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Oheao

Banned
Well where do I start. Basically after the whole situation went down. I asked to help make the design and logos for resetera. I joined the discord and started talking to everyone who was involved, Cerium, Nicole, all the other admins etc. So maybe a day in we had accrued a bunch of people to help with various things, at this point ZhugeEX & Shinobi were on the team, as were a couple others Ferny, etc.

It was dysfunctional to say the least everyone who wanted to help was invited which I knew was going to be a problem coming down to it just with how much they rushed. Discord at that time was also going crazy. Well lets say maybe late that Friday, We were working on logos me and the other designer on the team at the time. While this was going on site guidelines, and rules were to be established, which they sorta were but not to the extent that was talked about. As it stands I had mentioned we don't run on ads ever. And have some sort of counter on the site to show where the money was going, and all that a lot of ideas scrapped because "transparency" is not an issue. Regardless around this time the first logo got leaked, and pushed around, and we had a wave of kicks, and then a few of the people kicked (me included) were re invited, and I continued to work on logos and started a rough design on the theme for the site, and then after posting a WIP of my logo it got leaked again prior to it maybe 20 minutes after. Surely they'd fix it this time, so they kicked all the designers and put them in a separate group, and everything was going fine as we had bought a theme to modify and push as the resetera theme as we couldn't wait to put the site up.

Now around this time. I had mentioned I wouldn't stop posting on GAF, even after the whole debacle and really it was a shitshow then. Then someone brought this up to Nicole, probably a designer as maybe 10 minutes later I was on the test bed for the design of the site, and I saw my post being skewed on the testbed as the placeholder logo. Now right after this I was kicked from the design discord server, and then Nicole kicked and banned me after "publicly" (in the private channel for trusted users at the time) calling me out and talking shit. Now right after this I was basically pushed around left and right for things that I didn't do. I had a lot of back and forth with Cerium about what happened.

At first nobody could tell me what I had done, and then after persistently talking to them for a couple of days after ERA was being worked on so around Monday I had finally gotten at least on of the alleged reasons of about why I was banned/kicked from the team. Now at this time I was told that I had leaked the logos on 8chan. Which I immediately denied as being true since I still to this day have not even found a thread on there which had my logos on them. Then I proceeded to ask others about why I was kicked and I then I got that I was leaking invite codes, and the only server I was in at the time the CanDealsGAF didn't actually let me see the codes to the signup. Since I had already made an account there to test site stability and the such. So another false accusation made against me.

I continued to help anyway I could even after all this, and basically it ran all the way till when they banned me the first time "to test the warning system" except this ban was issued by Nicole who had shown an extreme distaste to me and refused to even mention my name. By this time I had been banned for a week or 2 once again asking away with Cerium about site progress and if help was needed. So he overturned my ban, and things went on their merry way. Once again I got banned for a second time this time for an email. And this is where they pushed the narrative that I leaked the invite codes, logos, and everything else. Which once again there was literally no proof not even proof of these posts ever occurring on 8chan, but basically I was a dumbass who used a throwaway email (cock.li) which they linked to 8chan because they allow you to create an email using their domain (news flash it's being run by a 4channer).

So basically they permabanned me using a "list of banned domains", but this list doesn't preban already registered accounts just doesn't allow previously used emails to be used, now I had asked Cerium to help me out by just changing my email which he just ignored for the most part, and 2ish days later responded telling me he couldn't do it, and just excuses basically, lastly he mentioned that nobody on the admin team would want me to return. Which at the time I was beyond extremely depressed. So I just blew up on twitter, made a lot of long ass posts on twitter and discord and cemented that I wouldn't ever be allowed on their site again.

Basically all of this stemmed from a bunch of bullshit which they have not to this day proven to be legit, and any other discussions against me to get unbanned just come up to saying "we moved on and don't wanna deal with this shit sorry"

Could I also just add a side note I said we should be public with the money earned on ERA for site upgrades and other shit, but currently ERA Clear is $40/year. Giantbomb asks for $30 and they are able to make all that. Doesn't this just spell greed? Like a shitload of it? ERA doesn't even upgrade their site, it's running on the same boxes that we had in the beginning this also coming from the team having a Google Cloud, AWS, and Azure engineer team on there.

Also the site only costs $600 to run haha, the amount of excess money people are throwing at ERA hurts, and to this day my logo still shows up on the images for the site when you do search it which is nice lol.

SweetNicole still holds this grudge for something I never did and no amount of proof even me asking the owner of 8chan to confirm if my IP was even in the same location as those posts. Transparent my ass.

That's a shame. To be honest, I had a similar experience with VGChartz. The site was stagnant for years, but a shred of hope arrived when an old coder returned to the site. Well, he wanted help from certain users in order to manage all of issues that needed to be fixed and communicating with the users so that he would just have to focus on the actual fixes and leave the community aspect to others. Well, he allowed me and another person to do so, but the mod team did not like that at all. They wanted the mod team to handle it and essentially kicked us two out. Now, we were eventually brought back in after the coder objected, but of course the tensions always existed and were never rectified. It was a losing battle for me as I was a relative upstart in the community whereas the mods had been supplanted there for years.

Sorry for rambling. I just wanted to say that it does sound like something that could plausibly occur and I do understand the depression. I was extremely depressed myself from those turns of events. However, yours was probably even worse than mine since, while they did threaten to ban and nuke my account (actually the coder did because there was some guy creating multiple alts and the mods put it into his head that it was me, though of course it was later proven false), it was me that asked for a permaban (as a result of a combination of my unhappiness being there, their dislike of me and my displeasure with their efforts in moderation) and while they refused to ban me, I got an admin to do it for me.

I hope that you at least managed to stay in contact with those whom you were on amicable terms with. I now have accomplished what I came here for, but I guess if you really want to talk to me I can stay for PMs (though be warned I have far left views). I hope that you feel much better than you did when you were banned at least!
 
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