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[Shmunter]

I just saw that Terry Crews is getting SJW’d hard for sticking up for Liam “The Black Killer” Neeson. Maybe that’s shaving a few point off the Crackdown metascore with the Woke gaming media?

 

[Grinchy]

I just saw that Terry Crews is getting SJW’d hard for sticking up for Liam “The Black Killer” Neeson. Maybe that’s shaving a few point off the Crackdown metascore with the Woke gaming media?

lol ok now that is absurd

First they try to go after The Rock and now Terry Crews? Do they just hate extremely likable black men?

 

[captainraincoat]

Your memory is short, here you go. https://www.neogaf.com/threads/crac...d-201-5-vs-2019.1472183/page-2#post-253785300






Edit : I added more for you, oh look you even replied to it.

My point was related to the multiplayer side of things as i didnt have access to the SP part at the time
in saying that the multiplayer delivered a fun cloud based destruction arena experience thats not available on another home console..people console warring and inserting in jibs for years about using a cloud
would probably have to eat crow on that part..i was sceptical on it but they delivered it in the end.....even if it was not what people were expecting....lets hope the gods at sony can figure out that FP16 thingy and they can use those 8 terraflops to have a go at their own destruction arena
then you can start trading barbs on whats the better game.

Now that The single player i dont actually mind as i loved crackdown 1 and was one of the few that didn't mind part 2 so the game is sort of trip down memory lane.

 

[Codes 208]

I’ve played about an hour of the campaign. The camera feels relatively clunky and the overall gameplay is already feeling like “been here done that.” And I definitely don’t care for the tutorial’s handholding leading up to the first boss.

But now that I’m out and about in the city, hopefully it’ll start picking up from here.

 

[Shmunter]

lol ok now that is absurd

First they try to go after The Rock and now Terry Crews? Do they just hate extremely likable black men?

Tell me about it. Decent summary here...

 

[SaucyJack]

Metacritic of 60 based on 46 reviews. Yikes.

I’m kinda disappointed tbh, had hoped this would be good and fun despite the cloud hype nonsense.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

Can't believe the Xbox exclusive situation is so bad, fans were trying to sell this as a system seller...pretty awful.

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

Metacritic of 60 based on 46 reviews. Yikes.

I’m kinda disappointed tbh, had hoped this would be good and fun despite the cloud hype nonsense.

It still can be! If you like Crackdown and really want more of, well, exactly the same, then there's no reason why it shouldn't make for a good time. But the scores are right where they should be.

 

[Golgo 13]

Huge fan of the original Crackdown here. Tried really hard to give this game a chance, even played for several hours hoping it would improve.

Let’s be clear — this isn’t a good sequel, nor is it a good game. It’s well deserving of the 60 Metascore. Let’s all move on and play better games — don’t support this shit.

 

[ethomaz]

Based on what? You can't call it a first party game if a first party studio doesn't make it, I'd argue that that's a fact and your point is a popular fallacy from people who believe the myth.

Based in reality.

There is no second party studio... or you are first-party or you are third-party.

Insoniac, From Software, etc até all third party studios... they can make games to who three wants because they are independent.

Fallacy is a term created only by the media that doesn’t exists in the industry at all... second-party is a term that was born by gaming journalists... just that... there is no business book, or persististe will use that term because there is no second-party... it is a dumb term baucase a IP can be first-party and third-party (you own it or you don’t own it) same for the studio/developer you own it (first-party) or you don’t own it (third-party).

There is no middle in the owner of a thing lol

Crackdown 3 is a first-party game developed by a third-party studio.

If you want to call it second-party fine but there is no such term in the gaming industry (or any other industry at all).

There is absolutely no difference for Sony between LittleBigPlanet and Dreams even when the first was developed by a third-party and the second by a first-party.... both are first-party games.

 

[RPS37]

After having played for about an hour, it really doesn’t seem like any sort of an evolution from the first game.

 

[ethomaz]

It’s confusing but MS call it first party as well.

I guess anything a publisher funds directly is considered first party these days.

These days? It was always first-party... if the IP is owned by the platform holder then it is a first-party game no matter who developed.

Second-party term only existia by media and some gamers.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

That's my major problem with the Xbox faction on this board. They actually believe criticism is some anti Xbox conspiracy agenda always. The selective memory when called out is typical also.

Had the exact same thing when Sea of Thieves rightly reviewed very poorly. Talk of 'conspiracy' and the same defence we're seeing here of 'but it's fun'. It's actually quite pitiful.

I mean just compare this game to Spiderman or God of War and the standard that people expect from exclusives today.

 

[LOLCats]

Is it safe to say that Crackdown 3 is to X1 as No Man’s Sky is to PS4?

Not even close, they dont really compare to be honest.

 

[demigod]

Had the exact same thing when Sea of Thieves rightly reviewed very poorly. Talk of 'conspiracy' and the same defence we're seeing here of 'but it's fun'. It's actually quite pitiful.

I mean just compare this game to Spiderman or God of War and the standard that people expect from exclusives today.

Reviewers are wrong, gaf is wrong, but its so fun that Instead of buying and supporting the dev, they gamepass it.

 

[PuppetMaster]

Looking at the Crackdown OT all I can pick up is that Xbox only gamers are THIRSTY!

I guess one mans crumbs is another mans feast. And there is nothing wrong with them enjoying the game even if the critics look down on it.

 

[Gavon West]

Crackdown 3 metacritic is averaging at around 6's so far so I don't think Neogaf is alone on this one

When hardcore Xbox fans like Ryan McAfrey and CrapGamer are not satisfied with the game it should speak volume for you but seems like on the bolded part you already made your mind about this place

I'm not McAfrey nor Crapgamer -- wouldnt be if my life depended on it. Why on Earth would their not liking the game have ANY bearing on my opinion of it??? I'm confused...

I dont follow trends, I set them. That's not "talk for the internet". That's for motion pictures and gaming.

NeoGaf gonna NeoGaf, that's just basically a fact. I find the game to be extremely enjoyable, well executed with tight gameplay and a lavish open world that makes you want to explore it. Best of all its just a really, really fun game and that's why I picked gaming as a hobby. It's fun.

I didnt get into this thing to be told what to like or follow someone else's tastes in games. I can think for myself. Not a personal thing but I dont seek approval to do what I want to do or like what I like. For those who get down that way, there's metacritic and corporate America.

 

[Gavon West]

Can't believe the Xbox exclusive situation is so bad, fans were trying to sell this as a system seller...pretty awful.

Who was trying to sell this as a system seller? Seriously.

 

[LuvOfThaGame]

I'm not McAfrey nor Crapgamer -- wouldnt be if my life depended on it. Why on Earth would their not liking the game have ANY bearing on my opinion of it??? I'm confused...

I dont follow trends, I set them. That's not "talk for the internet". That's for motion pictures and gaming.

NeoGaf gonna NeoGaf, that's just basically a fact. I find the game to be extremely enjoyable, well executed with tight gameplay and a lavish open world that makes you want to explore it. Best of all its just a really, really fun game and that's why I picked gaming as a hobby. It's fun.

I didnt get into this thing to be told what to like or follow someone else's tastes in games. I can think for myself. Not a personal thing but I dont seek approval to do what I want to do or like what I like. For those who get down that way, there's metacritic and corporate America.

But you can't like a non-Japanese made console without an extremely heavy sjw theme, third person walking simulator, boy. No, no, no. You not woke enough. Stop enjoying fun. Hail Sony.
/s

 

[Gavon West]

But you can't like a non-Japanese made console without an extremely heavy sjw theme, third person walking simulator, boy. No, no, no. You not woke enough. Stop enjoying fun. Hail Sony.
/s

Pretty much what it sounds like. IDGAF though. If I wanted Sony's system or found their games appealing, I'd have a PS4. I'm just not a big fan. I can respect those that do though.

 

[Sparda]

But you can't like a non-Japanese made console without an extremely heavy sjw theme, third person walking simulator, boy. No, no, no. You not woke enough. Stop enjoying fun. Hail Sony.
/s

Microsoft game are not fun, they are dumb game for child and ripetitive.

 

[SaucyJack]

Who was trying to sell this as a system seller? Seriously.

We had a whole thread on it, with a poll and everything

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/crackdown-3-is-a-system-selling-exclusive-screenrant-dev.1471830/

 

[Gavon West]

We had a whole thread on it, with a poll and everything

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/crackdown-3-is-a-system-selling-exclusive-screenrant-dev.1471830/

It's a poll on who would buy Crackdown 3 or buy an Xbox for it. That doesnt really say, "Crackdown 3 is a system seller" to me but........okay?

 

[ethomaz]

It's a poll on who would buy Crackdown 3 or buy an Xbox for it. That doesnt really say, "Crackdown 3 is a system seller" to me but........okay?

The pool has nothing to do with the title... read the OP.

I'm not McAfrey nor Crapgamer -- wouldnt be if my life depended on it. Why on Earth would their not liking the game have ANY bearing on my opinion of it??? I'm confused...

I dont follow trends, I set them. That's not "talk for the internet". That's for motion pictures and gaming.

NeoGaf gonna NeoGaf, that's just basically a fact. I find the game to be extremely enjoyable, well executed with tight gameplay and a lavish open world that makes you want to explore it. Best of all its just a really, really fun game and that's why I picked gaming as a hobby. It's fun.

I didnt get into this thing to be told what to like or follow someone else's tastes in games. I can think for myself. Not a personal thing but I dont seek approval to do what I want to do or like what I like. For those who get down that way, there's metacritic and corporate America.

You can like what you want but you were quoted because you descredited these that didn't like what they saw/played.... you generalized GAF like usual but when somebody called you out you hide behind the "it is my opinion that I like that game".

You reply can be used to reply to your your own post without lose the meaning.

Most critics and games found Crackdown 3 mediocre... so what your problem with that? MS needs to level up their game at least of the level of the games launched on 360 and there is nothing wrong with that.

 

[Damian black]

Huge fan of the original Crackdown here. Tried really hard to give this game a chance, even played for several hours hoping it would improve.

Let’s be clear — this isn’t a good sequel, nor is it a good game. It’s well deserving of the 60 Metascore. Let’s all move on and play better games — don’t support this shit.

Watch out, now they are going to tell you that you never played crackdown, because you dont like this game.
It is like they are a huge hivemind regurgitating the same excuses over and over, at the first sign of criticism.

 

[Gavon West]

The pool has nothing to do with the title... read the OP.


You can like what you want but you were quoted because you descredited these that didn't like what they saw/played.... you generalized GAF like usual but when somebody called you out you hide behind the "it is my opinion that I like that game".

TF are you talking about? Mc Afrey and Crapgamer? So what? I dont need to agree with either one of them. And no one has to like the game, but at the same time I dont need to not like the game because they dont. Who are they to me?

And GaF has a reputation and that reputation pretty much covers those who participate in it - including me, even if I dont share a lot of the same views most here seem to agree on. I knew that going in.

It sucks but it is what it is. It's why alot of developers skip this place now. Or have you not noticed that developers dont visit here anymore? There's a reason for that.

Lets be clear: I dont care who doesnt like Crackdown 3. That's their opinion and you're perfectly within your realm to do so. But I disagree....by a wide margin. I like Crackdown and I dont agree with the current narrative against it.

 

[ethomaz]

Watch out, now they are going to tell you that you never played crackdown, because you dont like this game.
It is like they are a huge hivemind regurgitating the same excuses over and over, at the first sign of criticism.

Pretty much... if you like the game you are fine but if you don't (the majority) it is a conspiracy, hate or lies.

Instead to ask MS for better games some prefer to live a bubble accepting anything low standard sold to them.

 

[ethomaz]

TF are you talking about? Mc Afrey and Crapgamer? So what? I dont need to agree with either one of them. And no one has to like the game, but at the same time I dont need to not like the game because they dont. Who are they to me?

And GaF has a reputation and that reputation pretty much covers those who participate in it - including me, even if I dont share a lot of the same views most here seem to agree on. I knew that going in.

It sucks but it is what it is. It's why alot of developers skip this place now. Or have you not noticed that developers dont visit here anymore? There's a reason for that.

...

Hm. So I'm just tuning in to this thread. I knew what would happen once reviews got out. And I knew how GaF would react. I'm starting to believe I can tell the future.

My next prediction is that once people try the game out for themselves, this game will do great numbers on GP. Many will be shocked at the numbers.

Despite what the internet says, I hope Phil decides to do another Crackdown and make it a pillar franchise like he said he would.

Maybe you should ask yourself why devs are not here anymore (if true of course)... hint it is not due the criticism.

Edit -

Lets be clear: I dont care who doesnt like Crackdown 3. That's their opinion and you're perfectly within your realm to do so. But I disagree....by a wide margin. I like Crackdown and I dont agree with the current narrative against it.

Ohhh you care... and a lot... because your comments clearly showed that... salty.

"I know GAF is like that"... "I know people will talk bad about "good" games"... "I like it so why GAF is the worst"... like I said instead to acknowledge the flaws and make clear devs needs to level up you follow the trend to put the blame on GAF.

 

[Gavon West]

...


Maybe you should ask yourself why devs are not here anymore (if true of course)... hint it is not due the criticism.

So.....let me get this right; I predicted this game would get slaughtered in the reviews (and was right) and I predicted Gaf would go in to kick shit all over the meta score (and was right) and that people who are going in to actually play the game are actually finding it fun and a pretty good game (and was right) and that makes me........what, exactly?

As far as Gaf's reputation, believe what you want to believe. I'll leave it there on that topic.

 

[ethomaz]

So.....let me get this right; I predicted this game would get slaughtered in the reviews (and was right) and I predicted Gaf would go in to kick shit all over the meta score (and was right) and that people who are going in to actually play the game are actually finding it fun and a pretty good game (and was right) and that makes me........what, exactly?

As far as Gaf's reputation, believe what you want to believe. I'll leave it there on that topic.

If the game was good nothing of that should happened, no?

Don't blame GAF for your salty.

About the bolded laughable... you implied people that reviewed it or said that it didn't looks good are people that didn't play the game lol

Yeap only people that didn't play Crackdown 3 can find it mediocre.... you are right lol

 

[Gavon West]

Pretty much... if you like the game you are fine but if you don't (the majority) it is a conspiracy, hate or lies.

Instead to ask MS for better games some prefer to live a bubble accepting anything low standard sold to them.

Posts like these are soooo strange to me. You dont dig the game. That's cool! Seriously. It is. I imagine that means you have no interest in it, you wont be spending money on it. So.......why the hell do you care what other people think of the game - regardless if they like it or not? It's not your money. It's not your decision.


It's like it doesnt even occur to you that people may genuinely like the game.

 

[captainraincoat]

I played about 2 hours with my son in co-op and had a ball just messing stuff up and going on rampages...gonna call this my guilty pleasure game....... will sit there next to gang beasts

 

[Gavon West]

If the game was good nothing of that should happened, no?

Don't blame GAF for your salty.

About the bolded laughable... you implied people that reviewed it or said that it didn't looks good are people that didn't play the game lol

Yeap only people that didn't play Crackdown 3 can find it mediocre.... you are right lol

Okay. Im going to assume English isnt your first language? I'm not being funny here. It seems like its not your native language....thats cool.

Salty? ......LMAO!

And.....I'm not even sure how you got, "You're implying that people who reviewed the game and didnt like it, didnt play it."

That's not what I said.....AT. ALL. Not even implying it.

 

[EBE]

Sunk a good amount of time into the game today. It's definitely more Crackdown. It's a very lean game bordering on anemic that's only as fun as you make it. Combat, at least on the highest difficulty, quickly falls into a satisfying if repetitive rhythm of shooting, dodging fire, and getting a height advantage on your enemies where the weakest link are the enemies themselves. They're sponges and few types break the guy-with-a-gun mold. The city is smartly laid out with enough visual variety to keep each area distinct but of course it's a mostly lifeless obstacle course--it doesn't BREATH like a GTA open world does. Orb hunting is fun and the added traversal moves make this a really smooth playing experience, for the most part. The auto lock aiming can sometimes get hung up on objects or enemies you aren't targeting and vehicles don't handle particularly well. The wall riding Agency car is especially finicky. In fact, vehicles are, again, largely superfluous to the core design of the game.

So yeah, it's Crackdown, again. It's a 6 or 7 at best, like the first game was. But it can be good fun.

 

[ethomaz]

Posts like these are soooo strange to me. You dont dig the game. That's cool! Seriously. It is. I imagine that means you have no interest in it, you wont be spending money on it. So.......why the hell do you care what other people think of the game - regardless if they like it or not? It's not your money. It's not your decision.


It's like it doesnt even occur to you that people may genuinely like the game. I'm not seeing the problem with that.

I have no issue with gamers that like it... the opposite I support it... games needs to be liked.

I have issue with gamers like you that blame a community about flaws in games that end up mediocre... you can have fun with mediocre games and that is normal but it didn't change it is mediocre and it should be criticed.

See your own comment "that people who are going in to actually play the game are actually finding it fun and a pretty good game (and was right) "...

You actually said reviews and everybody that didn't like the game are lies and they didn't played it lol that is exactly what are you doing since the first comment putting the blame of the scores and bad talk in the GAF, reviewers and people that didn't like it.

Accept that you like the game but others not and move on... don't blame GAF for that.

Okay. Im going to assume English isnt your first language? I'm not being funny here. It seems like its not your native language....thats cool.

Salty? ......LMAO!

And.....I'm not even sure how you got, "You're implying that people who reviewed the game and didnt like it, didnt play it."

That's not what I said.....AT. ALL. Not even implying it.

You literally said that... no language issue.

"people who are going in to actually play the game are actually finding it fun"

What makes these people that didn't find it fun? You try to generalize something (like GAF that or that) when it is not true or even the majority of the opinion.

Descredit GAF, reviewers or people that played the game and found it bad is what?

 

[Gavon West]

I have no issue with gamers that like it... the opposite I support it... games needs to be liked.

I have issue with gamers like you that blame a community about flaws in games that end up mediocre... you can have fun with mediocre games and that is normal but it didn't change it is mediocre and it should be criticed.

See your own comment "that people who are going in to actually play the game are actually finding it fun and a pretty good game (and was right) "...

You actually said reviews and everybody that didn't like the game are lies and they didn't played it lol that is exactly what are you doing since the first comment putting the blame of the scores and bad talk in the GAF, reviewers and people that didn't like it.

Accept that you like the game but others not and move on... don't blame GAF for that.

Okay. I'm confused. But if thats how you feel, block me. IDC.

And it sounds like you have a problem with those who dont find the game mediocre. That's a YOU problem breh...

And I NEVER once said that those who didnt like the game are lying. WTF are you getting that from? Lol.

And I NEVER put the bad scores on "The GaF" either. Perhaps I'm not being clear, so let me try to make this easier for you to understand:

When I say, "people who actually go and play the game" I'm talking about aside from journalists. 'I'm talking about gamers who may have made judgement based on the reviews. Many are writing the game off based on the Reviews, but there are many now who are plugging in and trying the game for themselves to discover they are actually finding the game a lot of fun.

I hope that clears things up for you.

 

[ethomaz]

When I say, "people who actually go and play the game" I'm talking about aside from journalists. 'I'm talking about gamers who may have made judgement based on the reviews. Many are writing the game off based on the Reviews, but there are many now who are plugging in and trying the game for themselves to discover they are actually finding the game a lot of fun.

If you have wrote that in your first comments nobody should quote you to call you out

 

[Krappadizzle]

Is the PC version co-op capped at 30fps?? I've been reading on Reddit that it is. If so, that's a major bummer. Downloaded last night in anticipation of playing with my buddy, but may just not bother until it's addressed.

 

[ethomaz]

Is the PC version co-op capped at 30fps?? I've been reading on Reddit that it is. If so, that's a major bummer. Downloaded last night in anticipation of playing with my buddy, but may just not bother until it's addressed.

It is capped if you are playing Co-Op together with anybody else (I think it is to be fair due the game be on XB1 too? But that means if you are Co-Op with another PC player if should uncap?).

If you play Co-Op solo it will not cap.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

I always thought of 2nd party as a 3rd party studio developing a 1st party exclusive

 

[thelastword]

Not overly worried about the review scores, I mean, it's free on Gamepass and DF liked it. I loved Crackdown and even enjoyed re-visiting it recently, so this is apparently more of the same which means it should be quite fun, if you like that kind of thing (I do).

Expectations should be managed, I expected a Crackdown game, looks like I got it. What were all these MSM game review sites expecting? Grand Theft Crackdown?

You really expected DF not to like it? Their analysis sounded more like a review than a tech piece.....One of the most positive reviews on the game too.....

The original game scored a 83 on metacritic. It was a strange title for Microsoft to double and triple down on as an AAA title. They should have not over-promised the cloud nonsense, made it a more of an indie title (like the first one) and released on XBL at a reduced price. Its simple not an AAA franchise type game, never was, and chance are never will be.

Microsoft kind of went in the wrong direction. imo Crackdown was not really a huge seller, the first one did decent.

The thing is, besides Halo, Forza, Gears....MS has nothing really AAA.......And yet people boast on endless pockets, like all Azure money, all that Windows money belongs tot he gaming division or is generated from there...

You look at Phil a few years back, when they asked him about MS's dire first party situation, he spoke of Ori, Super Lucky etc filling that gap......Yet, look at MS's releases the last couple of years, too many indie looking games have been passing as their AAA offerings.....It's their big problem right there.........Ori, Super Lucky, Recore, SOD, Sunset Overdrive, Crackdown 3, Sea of Thieves etc....All look like titles that should have been priced at $29.99 or below........Crackdown 3 took more than 5 years to make, and it looks like something that could be wrought in less than a year.....For reference, Astrobot was done in 18 months with a very small team peaking at 25 persons, yet it's a masterpiece.....

The amount of money that was wasted on Crackdown over these 5 years, changing devs, money being pumped into overhyped cloud tech, will not be recuperated by giving the game away for $1 on gamepass.....And I don't think gamepass subs will continue to support the service if that's the quality they get.....Gamepass is always on sale because at $10.00 a month, no one is rushing to pay 120.00 a year for such games......You will probably be able to get Crackdown for $9.99 pretty soon as opposed to losing access to it after it leaves the service.....MS is doing more damage to their exclusives with Gamepass more than anything, there are many people who may have paid $60.00 who would say "$1 ? why not" especially after such reviews...Now coming later and saying 1 billion piece of rubble or 1 million buildings destroyed is not going to make this game successful by any stretch of the imagination....

Here's the sequence for most Xbox exclusives that aren't Forza:

- Game takes forever to develop
- Original footage/promises/etc. does not align with what is eventually released
- Game releases to mediocre at best review scores
- Fanboys will use whatever excuse they can find to white knight it
- Everyone forgets within six months and the cycle continues with the next game

I think that's extremely optimistic, I don't think you will hear much about Crackdown 3, at least 2 weeks after next months NPD......It will gain some talk there when people discuss sales of the title...

My goal is to expose your arguments for others who might read this. I don't care about the mainstream media, so much so I don't even visit the metacritic website. They aren't gamers nor particularly knowledgeable about the medium.

I know some of these guys don't play games as thoroughly and some don't even know some basic console features......Yet, not all......Crackdown 3 got many reviews, so they all can't be wrong and they all can't have given a dishonest and non-thorough review.....

Some of the worse reviewed PS games were reviewed badly because of a lack of content (DC, GTS), so it's not surprising that they have a large following and people love those games because the game at it's core is excellent....These very games have receved so much content and updates since then, which makes their recommendation even easier. I don't believe the same applies to Crackdown tbh, CD3 is not being marked down because of lack of content.....I think it's because it's a game still stuck in OG XBOX era without evolving and a game failing to deliver on super hyper hype from MS and cloud tech......
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I'm not bothered by these numbers. Reviewers seem to heavily favor story driven games with cinematic presentation. Sadly games like Crackdown won't rate high in the current gaming media because it's not some indie title that hits above it's weight nor is it some drama laden experience in which they can marvel us with their astute understanding of it's deeper themes and feels. It's a fun game which simply isn't that interesting to write about. Though I'm tempted to look and see how Waypoint politicizes it just for a laugh.

I don't get this, some of the highest rated games this gen are all gameplay marvels......It was not the cutscenes that made GOW, nor Spiderman, nor UC4/LL, they only enhanced those games........

Yet with your logic, how comes Quantum Break did not shatter Metacritic.....It had so much cinematic prsentation they even included a mini-series in the game????? Some receipts on that would be dandy....

I think Crackdown 3 is likely overall deserving of a 6/10 review score. Thats not to say I personally am not going to enjoy Crackdown 3 but I think there are some legit reasons for the score:

Frankly, given the MP is an actual seperate download for the game I think MS would have been far better served to release the single player game first and like other Open world games aka Red Dead 2, held back the online MP component until they addressed the biggest issue of no friends parties and do some further patching / polish. If they took that root, I am pretty sure the review scores would have been a tick better hitting that 7/10 range.

Came across an review that I don't think I have seen in here as well. Seems like a fair take on it from
colteastwood:

I think you can expect this game to fall even further, when some high scaling reviewers publish their reviews......I think prior to this week, many Xbox fans thought this would rate higher than it did, but it was always a game pitched on a feature that just couldn't realistically pan out at this time....So launching MP seperately would not have worked because all that cloud tech was pitched in MP and it's not like the SP is getting rave reviews, it would have received even worse reviews a standalone SP game if you read what some reviewers said about SP......

The thing is, devs just have to realize what hardware they're working with and stop the BS'ing......You can't make a console that's not powerful enough for 4k, native 4k on everything, your frames will tank.....In the case of CD3, if MS wanted full destruction and great physics, they had to know the XBOX consoles could not deliver that with the CPU it had, as it stands base XBONES is the weakest of all the HD consoles by a fair bit......So trying to overlook that deficiency and pitching unlimited power of the cloud was the first sign that these guys were struggling with their concept and not getting the results they wanted on the hardware, trying to leverage cloud tech over the expanse of 5 years was clear enough to reasonable person that cloud tech was just BS and not working as they intended either....The proof is in the pudding.....

The crazy thing is, Just Cause faltered this gen because they aimed to brute force these consoles with CPU straining physics and a large world in tandem, the consoles buckled, but at least they did'nt try to leverage a tech that would be dependent on your internet connection and many other variables, that would have been even more appalling....Yet, their approach is still way superior to CD3, why? At least Just cause looks very nice and it has some very nice tech. You can also enjoy some great gameplay and do some neat things, however you imagine it will be (physics wise), but in CD3 it's too contricted, physics are not impressive, the destruction in wrecking zone looks very bad, and the world detail, population and bustle is just not that great, geometric detail, texturing and shading is really subpar too.....At least, when we load up Just Cause 3 on our BC'd PS5/XBTWO's it will look great, have awesome physics and run at 60fps, but crackdown won't look anything quite as nice.......

Also, I have no problems with opinions, but Colteastwood is not exactly an unbiased reviewer. He runs an XBOX gaming channel btw....

Crackdown 3 failing this spectacularly could be great for MS. The lessons we learn the most from tend to be the ones that sting. Xbox fans should be rooting for a flop because that (1) increases the likelihood that Phil cuts ties with these talentless developers and (2) that he never greenlights another game like this again.

The new studios need to be going AAA and high fidelity. A game like State of Decay could be incredible in a new engine with a rebooted story. You’ll never see that future if you accept this game. Saw some on twitter calling for a boycott. I’m not usually for that tactic but extreme times call for extreme measures.

I would like to believe that Phil gets it and had to finish this because of Scalebound but the smart play for Xbox fans is to make sure he understands this won’t be accepted. Boycott it.

There's no reason to boycott Crackdown 3, CD3 has boycotted itself.....

 

[Gavon West]

If you have wrote that in your first comments nobody should quote you to call you out

If you say so my guy!

Glad thats settled...

 

[Gavin Stevens]

Oh hey up look whose arrived in an xbox thread to post 17 pages worth of content no bugger wants to read...

"There's no reason to boycott Crackdown 3, CD3 has boycotted itself....."

Jesus lord above...

 

[JCK75]

It's a shame but it seems my first impressions were pretty much dead on.

 

[ethomaz]

I always thought of 2nd party as a 3rd party studio developing a 1st party exclusive

Just to add a bit a first-party game doesn’t require to be exclusive... it can be in others platforms... it is not the norm but it already happened some times.

Same for 3rd-party that can be exclusives.

So you have some groups:

1) 1st-part games
  1.1) Developed by 1st-party
    1.1.1) Exclusive
    1.1.2) Non-exclusive
  1.2) Developed by 3rd-party
    1.2.1) Exclusive
    1.2.2) Non-exclusive
2) 3rd-party games
  2.1) Developed by 3rd-party
    2.1.1) Exclusive
    2.1.2) Non-exclusive

I never saw the 2.2 in my life that should be something like a 3rd-party IP Developed by Sony, MS or Nintendo so I left out but maybe it exists.

 

[thelodius]

Safe to say this is the biggest disappointment of the gen?

 

[Airbus Jr]

If you say so my guy!

Glad thats settled...

Heres the easy way to settle this out is by putting a bet on this game wether is it going to appear on Angry Joe top ten best game or top ten biggest dissapointment of 2019

 

[Aren117]

Safe to say this is the biggest disappointment of the gen?

Nah, it was either Final Fantasy XV or Mass Effect Andromeda. Both series have huge followings (unlike Crackdown) and disappointed so much.

 

[nowhat]

Nah, it was either Final Fantasy XV or Mass Effect Andromeda. Both series have huge followings (unlike Crackdown) and disappointed so much.

Of the two, ME:A, no contest. Even if I have a lot of issues with FFXV.

But surely Fallout 76 is at the top?

 

[ethomaz]

Safe to say this is the biggest disappointment of the gen?

FFXV is mine.

Mostly because I expected a FF game and received well...

Crackdown 3 footages and the beta didn't give too much room to be disappointed.

PS. I did not play some of the most hated games like Fallout 76