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Joe Carnahan Talks about how he wanted to make the Uncharted film for Amy Hennig and not Neil Druckmann.....

“It was a lot of fun, and ultimately I wanted to make Amy [Hennig] happy. It was her creation, and I think what’s his face – I’m not a fan – [Neil Druckmann] stole credit for it. Yeah that jerk-off. You know, whatever.

“I think there was a bit of saboteuring going on there, too, with Naughty Dog. I think they got over the barrel a little bit, but Amy created that world, and she was the one I really wanted to please. The rest of them are… you know – whatever the hell that other guy’s name is – he’s a hitchhiker. He was probably fucking for the rewrite job. But who knows? These things… you never know how these things go down.

Link to Newsite who reported it... [WARNING NSFW ADDS]
https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2019/...ckmann-is-a-jerk-off-says-joe-carnahan/79484/

 

[rəddəM]

You were going to make a movie to ultimately make Amy happy? WTF? Are you noob?
Amy worked for ND, created UNCHARTED for ND. UNCHARTED wouldn't be nearly as cool without ND, Nolan North and the soundtrack.
Nothing can stop Neil Druckmann now that he is VP of ND and we're all at his mercy.
Hide.

 

[MMaRsu]

But maybe Amy Hennig was a nice person, and very enthusiastic about it. Maybe Druckmann wS more business than enthusiasm?

I can understand wanting to please a person because you like and respect them. Maybe dont throw such a hissy fit Raddam

 

[Sqorin Hammerfarf]

I, for one, welcome our new Neil Druckmann overlords.

(that was sarcasm. I don't usually point out when I'm joking, but under no circumstances do I want someone to think I am a fan of Neil Druckmann or his work).

 

[Teslerum]

Amy Hennig still remains my favorite female game writer and one of my Top 5 video game writers of all time.

You have my sword Amy.

 

[ethomaz]

Seems a dumb comment and reason.

 

[sol_bad]

What's wrong with Neil Druckman?

 

[ethomaz]

What's wrong with Neil Druckman?

He is not in his friend’s circle.

 

[Sqorin Hammerfarf]

What's wrong with Neil Druckman?

Hey Kool-Aid!

 

[lifa-cobex]

What's wrong with Neil Druckman?

He tipped his fedora.

 

[JimmyRustler]

Amy Hennig still remains my favorite female game writer and one of my Top 5 video game writers of all time.

You have my sword Amy.

I can agree with this, seeing that she wrote the best fiction story ever written - Soul Reaver 2.

 

[sol_bad]

Looking at How Carnahan's filmography, can't say I liked any of his stuff. Dan Trachtenberg though, I used to watch him on the Totally Rad Show and loved 10 Cloverfield Lane. I'm really happy his career has taken off.
It was one of his dreams to direct an Uncharted film.

 

[Teslerum]

What's wrong with Neil Druckman?

Fired a QA guy for daring to complain about changes to U4. Ahhh and did those changes (including gender swapping charachters) because game wasn’t feminist enough for some people.

For one. Theres the whole drama with Amy back then as well, but ymmv.

 

[TeamGhobad]

is the world of Uncharted all the interesting and original?

 

[Hendrick's]

Druckman always came off as a huge douche to me, so I'm not surprised.

 

[jonnyp]

He sounds very salty

 

[Scopa]

What's wrong with Neil Druckman?

What’s wrong with Neil Druckmann?

*sigh*

Nurse, cancel my 1 o’clock.

 

[GrayFoxRJ]

Ahhh and did those changes (including gender swapping charachters) because game wasn’t feminist enough for some people.

Hmm... Let me guess...

 

[FranXico]

Hmm... Let me guess...

I think he was referring to the ending...

Spoiler

Their daughter originally was a son.

 

[Revolutionary]

Hmm... Let me guess...

Other guy already answered, but I'd like to add that Nadine didn't exist in the Amy Hennig version of U4. You could tell by how badly she was written.

 

[Great Hair]

"Uncharted 4 was easily the worse game in the series; it was long, boring, dour, and Drake was completely out of character throughout the entire thing. "

Yeah ... that´s a nope and double check the article next time.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

I actually agree. Uncharted 4 was painful to experience. It was a joy to look at, but never reached the heights of the first 3 (where 2 for me was the peak).

 

[mckmas8808]

Other guy already answered, but I'd like to add that Nadine didn't exist in the Amy Hennig version of U4. You could tell by how badly she was written.

Of course "she" was the badly written one.

 

[Teslerum]

I actually agree. Uncharted 4 was painful to experience. It was a joy to look at, but never reached the heights of the first 3 (where 2 for me was the peak).

Also too much artificial drama while not enough Indiana Jonsey feel.

 

[Enygger_Tzu]

Well Druckman will have to prove a lot with The Last Of Us II henceforth, the first game was nothing outstanding from a gameplay point of view, but the story was 10/10.
Hope the second game delivers as much as the first.

 

[mckmas8808]

Well Druckman will have to prove a lot with The Last Of Us II henceforth, the first game was nothing outstanding from a gameplay point of view, but the story was 10/10.
Hope the second game delivers as much as the first.

The gameplay was one of the best parts of TLOU.

 

[Scopa]

The gameplay was one of the best parts of TLOU.

 

[Enygger_Tzu]

The gameplay was one of the best parts of TLOU.

The story took the gaming medium by the hand and walked it MILES forward than most TPS did ever.
The gameplay could not keep up, it did not did the same.

 

[pr0cs]

Considering how Bleh uncharted 4 was I can't help but think it's all for the best

 

[mckmas8808]

Nope, it was great to play.

 

[ethomaz]

Well Druckman will have to prove a lot with The Last Of Us II henceforth, the first game was nothing outstanding from a gameplay point of view, but the story was 10/10.
Hope the second game delivers as much as the first.

Gameplay is the best part of The Last of Us.

Story took the bigger news because the great ending but gameplay is where the game shines at best.
It become even better the lesser hints/help you had on screen (like hardest difficults);
And It is that gameplay that holds the innovative MP so addictive.

It is dynamic, with a lot of options and the gunplay have pretty good weight and feedback/recoil... it probably has the best Bow physics I ever see in a game (it is so much joy to use it in MP matches)... it feels like a real life bow.

Nope, it was great to play.

God... it has so many options.

 

[DonF]

Fired a QA guy for daring to complain about changes to U4. Ahhh and did those changes (including gender swapping charachters) because game wasn’t feminist enough for some people.

For one. Theres the whole drama with Amy back then as well, but ymmv.

In what world this makes sense?

Fire a woman to make the game more feminist?

 

[ethomaz]

Fired a QA guy for daring to complain about changes to U4. Ahhh and did those changes (including gender swapping charachters) because game wasn’t feminist enough for some people.

For one. Theres the whole drama with Amy back then as well, but ymmv.

There is any evidence for that?

Or is it your preconcepted view of him? I will be honest... I don't know him or have read any issue at all.

 

[DonF]

is the world of Uncharted all the interesting and original?

when she was let go of naught dog, people were praising her to high heavens (it was the old gaf) and I was like

just like you. I feel that uncharted isn't really all that interesting. Its pretty bland and generic. Nothing new, Indiana jones + tomb raider. Thats the universe. I praise the game play and graphics, but nothing more.
So I googled her work.
People should referencing her Legacy of Kain/Soul Reaver work. There is creative work!

 

[HaveButOneLife]

He seems disgruntled and is evidently not even remotely a gamer at all.

The gameplay was one of the best parts of TLOU.

Super linear levels, chore difficulty, button prompts, broken unbalanced clickers is the best part about the game? Maybe I'm biased because I didn't enjoy it but looking back, I only kept dragging on to see what happens, not because the game was fun.

The only mechanic that I found to be a redeeming quality was the crafting.

There is any evidence for that?

Or is it your preconcepted view of him? I will be honest... I don't know him or have read any issue at all.

I personally don't mind him as a person, I only dislike his politics because they're nonsensical. He throws away any criticism towards his irrational politics and finds personal politics to be important.

 

[Teslerum]

There is any evidence for that?

Or is it your preconcepted view of him? I will be honest... I don't know him or have read any issue at all.

Proud Self-Admittance

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/uncharted-4-focus-tester-dismissed-after-sexist-ou/1100-6440081/

"To the point where we had to ask one guy to leave. In his core, it just affected him. He was cursing, 'not you, too, Naughty Dog! Goddammit. I guess I'm done with Uncharted, if you guys ever make another one, with his daughter. This fucking bullshit.' And I was like, Wow, why does that matter?"

"When I'm introducing and describing a new character to our lead character concept artist, constantly she will ask, 'What if it was a girl?' And I'm like, oh, I didn't think about that. Let me think, does that affect or change anything? No? Cool, that's different. Yeah, let's do it."

Also the whole Uncharted 4 situation happened during Gamergate and Amy avoided playing the *sexist* card during the whole thing, even dared to say that she didn't experience much sexism in all her years in the industry. So, nobody really cared to defend her.

 

[Chozofication_]

What's wrong with Neil Druckman?

He's a Marxist Feminist and an arrogant douche

 

[ethomaz]

Proud Self-Admittance

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/uncharted-4-focus-tester-dismissed-after-sexist-ou/1100-6440081/




Also the whole Uncharted 4 situation happened during Gamergate and Amy avoided playing the *sexist* card during the whole thing, even dared to say that she didn't experience much sexism in all her years in the industry. So, nobody really cared to defend her.

It seems like the dude was really out of place form that quote... the dude was hating the job he had to do.

About your comment Amy really need to be defended? From what?

I personally don't mind him as a person, I only dislike his politics because they're nonsensical. He throws away any criticism towards his irrational politics and finds personal politics to be important.

Well Politics... well I think most people have some controversial opinion in politics

Americans have Trump... we have Bolsonaro lol... they are way more irrational towards politics than Druckmann I guess and they are leading two big countries.

 

[ThatStupidLion]

youre telling me there are politics occurring at the top of a industry leading company?

 

[bilderberg]

Other guy already answered, but I'd like to add that Nadine didn't exist in the Amy Hennig version of U4. You could tell by how badly she was written.

Nadine is one of the worst characters I've seen in a game. And that 'faux' boss fight where she just kicks Drake's ass, my god, I should have just turned the game off right there. This is one of those moments in gaming that was so poorly telegraphed, I just fucking knew it wasn't going to be a real fight because Nadine's entire character is "i'm a strong woman" so of course she's going to beat the everlasting fuck out of Drake. I'm just sitting there pushing the buttons to advance the fight(cutscene) knowing their isn't going to be anything I could do. All because Nadine is a woman and 'violence against women' is bad and "oh my god she's so strong isn't she."

 

[Wimbledon]

Proud Self-Admittance

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/uncharted-4-focus-tester-dismissed-after-sexist-ou/1100-6440081/ .

"In an interview with Rolling Stone's newly-launched gaming site Glixel, Druckmann was asked about how his work has been influenced by the critic Anita Sarkeesian, who has produced numerous videos on the subject of sexism in games. "


I'm appalled at how far Anita's influence/reach has stretched within the gaming industry

 

[ethomaz]

Nadine is one of the worst characters I've seen in a game. And that 'faux' boss fight where she just kicks Drake's ass, my god, I should have just turned the game off right there. This is one of those moments in gaming that was so poorly telegraphed, I just fucking knew it wasn't going to be a real fight because Nadine's entire character is "i'm a strong woman" so of course she's going to beat the everlasting fuck out of Drake. I'm just sitting there pushing the buttons to advance the fight(cutscene) knowing their isn't going to be anything I could do. All because Nadine is a woman and 'violence against women' is bad and "oh my god she's so strong isn't she."

Is violence against women in a fight of life/death bad? I see nothing wrong here... they are enemies that wants each other dead... so violence in war has no genre... or you kill or you will be killed.

If I'm in a army fighting another country and a woman come is in the opposite side attacking me I will beat her (if I can of course)... I have no choice or I beat her or she will beat me... I have of course only one option.

 

[bilderberg]

Is violence against women in a fight of life/death bad? I see nothing wrong here... they are enemies that wants each other dead... so violence in war has no genre... or you kill or you will be killed.

Do you think people like Anita Sarkesian care about context? To her, artists create the context, so they're still at fault.

 

[ethomaz]

Do you think people like Anita Sarkesian care about context? To her, artists create the context, so they're still at fault.

Yeap I think you are right.

 

[Fbh]

I still like Naughty Dog games and I'm looking forward to TLOU 2.
But I do think the company has gotten worse since Druckmann took the lead. He seems to have doubled down on the "cinematic" focus on top of really pushing the "woke" mentality.

TLOU1 is my favourite game by ND and Druckmann obviously had a big role in it. But I still worry about the sequel because Druckmann seems to have more influence than ever AND Bruce Straley is gone now.

is the world of Uncharted all the interesting and original?

Yes and no.

No in the sense that it's basically Indiana Jones in modern times.

Yes in the sense that in recent years we haven't gotten any fun "treasure hunt" movies so I'd be totally down for one. Uncharted has likeable characters and if they make a movie where no one survives a nuclear explosion by hinding in a fridge it's already up to a great start

 

[mckmas8808]

Do you think people like Anita Sarkesian care about context? To her, artists create the context, so they're still at fault.

Who cares about Anita. You seem to care about her too much.

 

[Sqorin Hammerfarf]

"In an interview with Rolling Stone's newly-launched gaming site Glixel, Druckmann was asked about how his work has been influenced by the critic Anita Sarkeesian, who has produced numerous videos on the subject of sexism in games. "

 

[bilderberg]

Who cares about Anita. You seem to care about her too much.

I've only made one post about her

 

[Shmunter]

The gameplay was one of the best parts of TLOU.

I think there is a distinct difference between the people that played it with the casual X-ray vision and the proper way without that crutch. They should never have put in the wall hack in the game, it significantly devalues the gameplay.

 

[mckmas8808]

I think there is a distinct difference between the people that played it with the casual X-ray vision and the proper way without that crutch. They should never have put in the wall hack in the game, it significantly devalues the gameplay.

MY GOD you are so right!!! I always forget about that. I turned that x-ray vision off first thing after reading what some of GAF had said. The strategy to fighting all enemies was so fun when you had no clue where they were and you had to listen to their footsteps only using your sound in your headphones.