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Nintendo Labo VR support coming to Zelda Breath of the Wild & Super Mario Odyssey

iconmaster

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Wait, guys...

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How the heck is this going to work? The visor incorporates Joycons for head tracking, and there’s no strap.

Will we have to hold the visor to our faces and play with the attached Joycons? That is not going to be comfortable.

You lost me at "hold this up while you play".

Oh no.
 
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#Phonepunk#

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their other VR games seem like short little experiences, things you play for 5 mins or so at max. i don't know about other people but even with PSVR i can really only stand it for a few minutes. i don't think this is aiming for hours long play.

Mario has only 3 worlds listed for VR, so i assume there are custom experiences. maybe you use it with the spyglass to spot cars flying in the sky? for me BOTW it would be enough to just go to a location and look around. imagine going to a tower and just looking out at everything.

im pretty sure Nintendo have figured out how it is all going to work. again, remind yourself, this is a $40 toy version of VR, this is not competing with the $300 models.
 
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ExpandKong

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Wait, guys...

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How the heck is this going to work? The visor incorporates Joycons for head tracking, and there’s no strap.

Will we have to hold the visor to our faces and play with the attached Joycons? That is not going to be comfortable.



Oh no.

Is it perhaps possible to use the Pro Controller while this is set up on your head?

Wait...this doesn’t have a strap, does it.
 

cryptoadam

Banned
I am going to call it now, the BOTW is not playable game, its some sort of cinema mode where you watch but don't actually play.
 

tr1p1ex

Member
This is just a fun simple mini-game VR experience. IT's $40. I'm looking forward to it and I think letting you do some fun mini-experiences in the Zelda BotW and Mario Odyssey worlds is a nice extra selling pt.

I do love how one extreme feels like they have to say it's not Oculus.

And how the other extreme thinks you can play botw in VR for $40.
 

Fbh

Member
They got Breath of the Wild which ususally runs at 30fps with drops to run at 60 or 90 fps?. Make me wonder what type of visual sacrifices they have to implement for that.
Also, if they have a 60fps+ mode it would be nice if they enabled it for non VR play too
 

Rodolink

Member
Wait, guys...



How the heck is this going to work? The visor incorporates Joycons for head tracking, and there’s no strap.

Will we have to hold the visor to our faces and play with the attached Joycons? That is not going to be comfortable.



Oh no.
Remember the Virtual Boy? 😅
 

#Phonepunk#

Banned
idgi when you are playing portable you are already holding the Switch w joycons in your hands. is there something preventing people from being able to hold it a little higher in the air? are people that weak? $40 VR and you are too lazy to hold something in the air.

i have used PSVR and Oculus Rift. both are heavy, they weigh down on my nose, the strap over my head feels awkward. VR IS FUNDAMENTALLY UNCOMFORTABLE (for now...). why are people expecting Nintendo to solve this problem that all VR systems suffer from with a device sold at 1/6th the price?
 
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tr1p1ex

Member
The BotW bonus compatibility feature is just head tracking. A simple feature where instead of using the right stick to turn the camera, you turn the camera by turning your head.

I imagine you are just looking at the regular stock botw image as usual. The plastic lense will bend the image slightly and give it a "rounder" feel to help simulate the VR effect. The plastic lense also might help "smooth" the image by "concentrating" the pixels into a smaller area.

edit: I suppose it could even be simpler. Maybe the Labo VR setting in BotW only uses simple head tracking to aim when using the bow and arrow. ...just gyro aiming with your head basically.
 
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They know exactly what they're doing here, they're tempting the core players to buy Labo-VR with 'Nintendo's first VR experiences' for beloved games... this plays off all our nostalgia and if you own a different VR already you're even more tempted. Well played Nintendo, fuck I might need to get this now.
 
I'm afraid you know very little if you say things like this.


AND NO, what Labo does is not true VR. It's a huge disservice to this technology comparing some cardboard stuff to headsets like PSVR, Oculus or VIVE. Labo is more akin to Google cardboard. More like a mockery on this amazing tech.

Neither Zelda nor Mario Odissey can be played on VR, you need so much power for that. Power and DEVELOPMENT. VR is not a mod or a magical button you press and "hey, you got VR" just like that.
I agree with you, I do know very little, only going off what people say when they compare PSVR to the Vive.

Also, I don't know if it's a disservice, it could be a good entry point for.kids who then get interested and want the real thing with a PSVR or PC VR sets. Personally think stuff like Samsung VR and Cardboard would be more of a disservice considering its more focused on videos instead of games and what's possible with VR games.

Honestly wouldn't worry too much, I do think that this will only bolster amazing tech and of it's really successful, will get Nintendo to join the VR club with a proper solution when they release their next system.
 

Grinchy

Banned
Right, if it had a strap it could work. It'd be a lot to hold up with your head, but the functionality would be there.
lol yeah this has been known since they first announced this Labo VR kit. In every package, you are physically holding the entire unit against your face. I assume this is some kind of liability thing among many other reasons. And besides, nobody is going to want to actually have a heavy cardboard cutout strapped to their face.

As awesome as Zelda in VR sounds, this is not going to execute it in a significant way at all. I still don't really believe it's the full game in VR to begin with, but we'll see.
 

blu

Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Labo keeps amazing me and my kids. Good job, nintendo.
 
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Punished Miku

Gold Member
awesome news!

everything Nintendo reveals about this just makes me more excited. i've pre-ordered the base VR kit for $40, can't believe i am one week away from BOTW in VR
April 26th for the BotW update.

I pre-ordered the $80 one. This is perfect for me. I have been wanting to try VR for a long time and never have. I don't want to blow hundreds of dollars on PSVR and be stuck with a bunch of cables. I don't even have enough outlets in my room to add more things to plug in. I don't have a ton of space in my gaming area for VR. I don't have a PS Pro.

At least this way I can at least get a sense of how VR works with some fun mini-games, and additional bonus free DLC for some of their biggest games. I'm not expecting it to be perfect. I'm expecting it to be fun for 2 weeks.

Sorry haters! I might have fun for 2 weeks, oh no! Better talk shit on Nintendo quick, someone might have fun soon.
 
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ExpandKong

Banned
Both experiences will both be half assed.

And lets be honest, these games dont need VR.

Sounds like by their powers combined it’ll be a whole-assed experience then!

April 26th for the BotW update.

I pre-ordered the $80 one. This is perfect for me. I have been wanting to try VR for a long time and never have. I don't want to blow hundreds of dollars on PSVR and be stuck with a bunch of cables. I don't even have enough outlets in my room to add more things to plug in. I don't have a ton of space in my gaming area for VR. I don't have a PS Pro.

At least this way I can at least get a sense of how VR works with some fun mini-games, and additional bonus free DLC for some of their biggest games. I'm not expecting it to be perfect. I'm expecting it to be fun for 2 weeks.

Sorry haters! I might have fun for 2 weeks, oh no! Better talk shit on Nintendo quick, someone might have fun soon.

Yeah I kinda agree here. This is an okay way for me to dip my toe in the VR pool without blowing hundreds of dollars and tons of game room real estate on something that might end up making me puke anyway.
 

StormCell

Member
I love the thought of an improved cinematic "VR-style" BOTW. It's my favorite game of all time. Alas, there's zero convincing me to hold it up to my face and play. My arms will get tired after 15-20 minutes. The novelty will be ruined by a poor implementation. I'd rather rest my head in the apparatus and play with a pro controller.
 

Punished Miku

Gold Member
There's no way I'll spend $400 on a VR headset. But $40 for the Labo VR starter set? That's entirely within the novelty purchase range for me.
And Labo is not flying off the shelves. They are all discounted right now, and there were some big sales a few weeks back.

So unlike most Nintendo products, if people decide to wait for a price drop on these, they will probably find one for even cheaper in a few months. I'm guessing that's why they are trying the lower price point for the starter pack this time.
 
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Shaqazooloo

Member
Yeah, for BotW i'm guessing it's just replacing the camera control of the right stick with head movement and nothing more. If it ends up being more than that, awesome, but I don't see that happening.

Either way, this has gotten me in the mood to play more BotW, it's such an amazing game to come back to and play.
 

Tygeezy

Member
Yeah, for BotW i'm guessing it's just replacing the camera control of the right stick with head movement and nothing more. If it ends up being more than that, awesome, but I don't see that happening.

Either way, this has gotten me in the mood to play more BotW, it's such an amazing game to come back to and play.
It really is outstanding. Unfortunately i'm not sure how well it will do it in vr with an inconsistent 30 frames per second. VR needs 90 fps to feel smooth. Firs person mod with cemu emulator I could see it working well.
 

IbizaPocholo

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Shaqazooloo

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BunzLee

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I'll be skipping on the VR Labo, at least for the beginning. I mostly use my Switch in portable mode while on the bed/couch, and I can't see any scenario I'd want to play in VR. I am really interested in seeing how the controls work, though, specially for BOTW.
 

Orta

Banned
In a Nintendo UK blog post, Breath of the Wild technical director Takuhiro Dohta explained his team deliberately chose not to alter the main game for VR support. There's no exclusive VR mode, or gallery.
Instead, the game's VR option is simply available at all times - so you can switch it on "when there's something interesting to see," Dohta says, "like a location with a great view, a favourite character, or a favourite piece of equipment".

A motion-controlled camera is also an option - although you can switch this on or off, too.

"Our challenge became coming up with a way to create a fun VR experience without changing that core aspect of the game's design," Dohta said. "Ultimately, we arrived at a VR Goggles experience that's a bit different from the one you'll find in Nintendo Labo: VR Kit, so I hope you'll give it a try.

"If you're not a fan of the motion-controlled camera, you can turn it off by adjusting the Aim with motion controls setting under Options, and enjoy the VR experience that way instead. Even with the motion-controlled camera turned off, I hope this new experience is enough of a twist to give players a reason to try the VR visuals out."

So basically a fancy new camera mode when we want to stop and look at something, but not play? Have I got that right?
 

Shaqazooloo

Member
So basically a fancy new camera mode when we want to stop and look at something, but not play? Have I got that right?
The way I interpret it is that the games camera is controlled by the goggles at all times and you can look around, which would make sense given what they showed in the initial trailer.
 

#Phonepunk#

Banned
They have said you can play the game, it’s not just for stopping and looking at stuff.

Will be hard without a strap but if u get a strap u could play through the name normally from what I understand. And Switch VR works with detached joy cons so we already have the two handed wireless controls needed
 
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Wonko_C

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Probably means your view is stationary while Link moves around to avoid motion sickness due to the 30fps.
 

ExpandKong

Banned
So basically a fancy new camera mode when we want to stop and look at something, but not play? Have I got that right?
Probably means your view is stationary while Link moves around to avoid motion sickness due to the 30fps.

I don’t understand how anyone is arriving at this conclusion. The reveal video they showed however many weeks ago had link riding around on horseback and fighting a hinox, and the recent update makes it pretty clear you can play the game this way.

You can even turn off motion controls and just use the right stick for camera and aiming, so you don’t have to move your head all over the place.
 

Wonko_C

Member
I don’t understand how anyone is arriving at this conclusion. The reveal video they showed however many weeks ago had link riding around on horseback and fighting a hinox, and the recent update makes it pretty clear you can play the game this way.

You can even turn off motion controls and just use the right stick for camera and aiming, so you don’t have to move your head all over the place.

The video looked exactly how the game looks when playing normally, so I assummed they haven't shown the VR mode yet, I even assummed it was only going to be played in cinema mode (flat game on a big virtual screen). Until I see the game being actually played in VR mode I'll remain skeptic.
 
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tr1p1ex

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I guess they will just let you look around anytime by turning your head if you have motion control aiming on.
 
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ExpandKong

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The video looked exactly how the game looks when playing normally, so I assummed they haven't shown the VR mode yet, I even assummed it was only going to be played in cinema mode (flat game on a big virtual screen). Until I see the game being actually played in VR mode I'll remain skeptic.

How, uh...how do you propose they show you in a YouTube video what VR mode is supposed to look like.
 

Shaqazooloo

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IbizaPocholo

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