Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
Ew no these are meant to be like GameBoy colorsOK, but where are these versions?
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Nintendo Switch Lite announced
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Allnamestakenlol
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iconmaster
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The total lack of TV out is a bit surprising to me. It has the same USB-C port at the bottom and Engadget at least thinks the Lite is using the same processor as the original.
I somewhat expected them to introduce a separate Lite dock or a USB-to-HDMI cable. Is it really a technical limitation or just market differentiation? I guess the inevitable teardowns will prove it out.
I somewhat expected them to introduce a separate Lite dock or a USB-to-HDMI cable. Is it really a technical limitation or just market differentiation? I guess the inevitable teardowns will prove it out.
93xfan
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I thought they do a separate dock you had to buy. But this is unfortunate
n0razi
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Its for the moms and dads buying it for their kid on Christmas to play pokemon during car rides... they will not care about that stuff. It will sell MILLIONS and MILLIONS! Its not for you and me; they want us to shell out $400 for the Switch Pro coming out next year.
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SonGoku
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60% power reduction from 16nm alone
Could have used a smaller battery for cost reductions but atm nothing indicates the rumor is legit
Bitmap Frogs
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This thing already has the USB-C connection.... heck, I'm willing to bet the tv-out functionality is just disabled. Way cheaper to make 1 board then selectively nuke features for market segmentation.
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
There is no lack of Tv out they are just not advertising it as suck to make the original Switch stay appealing
iconmaster
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I absolutely get that. I'm just curious what the reasoning was.
Zog
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Actually, Nintendo says that the Switch Lite is NOT a 3DS replacement.
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Zog
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I think there will be plenty of people asking how to play their Switch Lite in TV mode.
Zog
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4:07
'First off, since Nintendo Switch Lite is a dedicated handheld device, it won't connect to a TV.'
Kittehkraken
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Actually, Nintendo says that the Switch Lite is NOT a 3DS replacement.
"We’ll continue to support our 3DS family of systems as long as there is demand"
They said the same thing about the Wii U when the Switch was released.
ROMhack
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True, they're very helpful.
SlashBringingHasher
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lmao a Switch that can't switch.
93xfan
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Because they like the form factor, but do not like that limitation.
I’d trade in my Switch for a mini that looks like that and can dock, even if I had to buy a dock separately.
I’m sure using the old internals and not having it docked has helped with keeping the cost low and making a profit- so I can’t really fault them.
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Zog
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They said that the Switch wasn't a Wii U replacement?
iconmaster
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Yup. https://gamerant.com/nintendo-nx-wiiu-3ds-124/
I think they said this about DS and GBA too.
Basically, every time Nintendo says "won't replace" you should hear "has already replaced and what other device were you even talking about?"
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Codes 208
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They also said the ds wasnt a gba replacement but rather a third pillar. To which surprise it *did* eventually replace the gba.
With pokemon fully moving on to the switch and no new heavy hitters insight, the 3ds is basically on life support.
SonGoku
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Yeah most likely wanting to sell any left over stock. Switch Lite will dominate in Japan and once it hits $150 its game over for the 3DS.
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
That is how they are advertising it. The capability is there, especially since it just uses the USB-C connector, people can make it connect to HDMI probably. If you had an open Switch dock that might even work. The only thing is that it might be software restricted so a 3rd party or hacker might have to be involved.
It will probably not be able to do 1080p though, especially on modern titles. It is not as powerful as the regular Switch, at least the heat management.
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Stefan.North
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Wow @ people carring about semantics.
As if it would be the first ever product not literally tied to it's name.
Tin foil is not made of tin but aluminium, and blackboards are usually dark green.
As if it would be the first ever product not literally tied to it's name.
Tin foil is not made of tin but aluminium, and blackboards are usually dark green.
Vawn
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And you're a "smart" ass.
cryptoadam
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The Lite is mean to be a handheld only. Its designed to be a portable.
The Switch when it goes to dock/undocked it changes the clocks. You add a TV out and now the Lite needs to start switching clocks.
Also how would you even play this on your TV? You can't put it in the dock due to its design. Ok a USB wire? Sure then you get the complaints about the wire being not long enough, not included, too expensive or ugly just hanging off your TV. Oh ya and remember when the dock was scartching Switch screens? Well how many people will be happy with their switch hanging off their TV all exposed?
Then you have to add in joycons/pro controller since you can't detach the joycons. So anyone buying this will have to buy extra controllers to play on their TV.
So basically you take this 199$ product, add 80$ for Joy cons, and 50-90$ for a dock/wire or whatever to attach to your TV.
This is a handheld system, its like complaining the 3ds doesn't hook up to your 3dTV so you can play 3ds games in 3d on your 50 inch TV. If you want docking get the regular Switch. Thats why its there.
Yes they could of had TV out, but it takes away a selling point from the regular switch, muddies the handheld nature of the lite, and would add a bunch of extra costs and complaints for consumers along with having the lite still operate in 2 different modes.
The Switch when it goes to dock/undocked it changes the clocks. You add a TV out and now the Lite needs to start switching clocks.
Also how would you even play this on your TV? You can't put it in the dock due to its design. Ok a USB wire? Sure then you get the complaints about the wire being not long enough, not included, too expensive or ugly just hanging off your TV. Oh ya and remember when the dock was scartching Switch screens? Well how many people will be happy with their switch hanging off their TV all exposed?
Then you have to add in joycons/pro controller since you can't detach the joycons. So anyone buying this will have to buy extra controllers to play on their TV.
So basically you take this 199$ product, add 80$ for Joy cons, and 50-90$ for a dock/wire or whatever to attach to your TV.
This is a handheld system, its like complaining the 3ds doesn't hook up to your 3dTV so you can play 3ds games in 3d on your 50 inch TV. If you want docking get the regular Switch. Thats why its there.
Yes they could of had TV out, but it takes away a selling point from the regular switch, muddies the handheld nature of the lite, and would add a bunch of extra costs and complaints for consumers along with having the lite still operate in 2 different modes.
iconmaster
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I'm not sure Nintendo would see that as a problem.
TLZ
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I still can't get over the name. They called it a Switch because it switches from tv to portable and vice versa. They made a whole ad around that. Now the Lite doesn't, it shouldn't have Switch in its name. Switch Lite should still mean it switches, but this is a Lite version, meaning no dock included.
When they dropped the 3D from the 3DS, they called it the 2DS, clearly indicating no more 3D in the name.
If it don't switch, it ain't no Switch. Simple.
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Zog
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So Nintendo doesn't INTEND for it to be used on a TV and if you can make it work on a TV, it won't work like the original Switch but will probably only display 720p.
Your original statement was:
They aren't just advertising it as such to make the original Switch stay appealing. They do not support hooking it up to TV. I don't think modding it to do something it wasn't intended to do means that Nintendo is hiding it's capabilities.
cryptoadam
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I made a post about it, but basically because it would be crappy for consumers.
So it goes TV out, how do you do that? Get a cable and have the switch hanging off your TV or sitting face down on your coffee table? Oh wait the cable isn't long enough, or Nintendo didn't include one in the box, or the cable is overpriced. Or they make a new dock, add another 50$ to the price.
And how do you play it from your TV when its docked since the JoyCons don't come off the lite? Now that cable is really to short. Have you ever hooked up a cell phone to a TV via HDMI mini? You aren't having a great excperience that way. So I guess you shell out 80$ for another pair of joy cons.
So parents/kids have the lite think its all good and realise shit I have to hang this off my TV and leave it exposed with this tiny little wire and go and buy more controllers just to play it on my TV.
OR
Nintendo says it doesn't work on the TV, you want that get the Switch regular. No kids throwing a tantrum because they need moar joycons to play on their TV, no broken switches falling off entertainment centers because they were hanging off the TV by a tiny HDMI cable.
n0razi
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Because it saves them like 10 cents a Switch (which comes out to $millions in the long run) and it will sell like crazy regardless? They also could have put in a bigger battery or reduced the bezels but they didnt... they did just enough to make a killing. Making internet analysts happy doesnt = $$$.
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#Phonepunk#
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its not a 3DS replacement because it does not play 3DS games. you will need a 3DS to do that.
it does play Switch games, which is good, cos it is called a Switch. funny how that works.
people complaining about the name have yet to come up with a good alternative. i haven't seen a single one. what are they supposed to call a device that plays all Switch games, but they can't use the word Switch in the title?
if someone can come up with a single good name that conveys that the system plays all Switch games but is portable only, and it doesn't include "Switch" in the name, they win a cookie.
it does play Switch games, which is good, cos it is called a Switch. funny how that works.
people complaining about the name have yet to come up with a good alternative. i haven't seen a single one. what are they supposed to call a device that plays all Switch games, but they can't use the word Switch in the title?
if someone can come up with a single good name that conveys that the system plays all Switch games but is portable only, and it doesn't include "Switch" in the name, they win a cookie.
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Zog
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Maybe people call it tin foil but the people who sell it call it aluminum foil because calling it tin foil would be false.
Seriously, the consumer has to make up a better name (we don't work for Nintendo) or stay silent about the existing one? I suppose you say that about bad games too? If we can't make a better game we shouldn't comment it?
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BlackTron
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I entirely agree that the product makes sense. In fact, I think they would be crazy not to have a $199 hardware for the market they created and fostered since Game Boy.
However I am in complete disagreement that the name/branding is anything but an insane fiasco.
The thing literally doesn't do what its name is. I don't care what anyone says, that's just ridiculous.
If they planned to potentially make new versions with the same software library, they should have come up with a new name, for example, Nintendo NX Switch. Then they could have NX Lite, NX TV, whatever. Not saying NX would be the best name but just to get my point across.
Now they have a software library bearing "Switch" so all hardware versions will need to use this name, regardless of whether they switch or not.
I thought they were on a roll in 2017 but it seems their marketing team didn't actually learn anything, they just actually showed up for work once WiiU was a mess and now it's back to the same ole' nonsense.
TLZ
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Mate, the DS plays Gameboy advance games, and it doesn't have Gameboy in its name. That's not an excuse. We all know they named it Switch because of what it does. They made a whole ad campaign around how it switches.
So what now, that it doesn't switch? How exactly does it fit the name? Call it Switch NOPE
#Phonepunk#
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what is your suggestion for a better name? again someone complaining about the name with no alternative. nobody has come up with a single name.
if you are saying they made a bad choice on the name, it is simple, just tell us the right name. this isn't making an entirely new system. your issue is with the name, which is bad. tell us a "good" name. if you can decide a name is bad, then you should be able to tell us what name is good. why is this so hard to do?
lol @ comparing it to making an entire game. i'm not asking that. i'm just asking for a name. this isn't a huge ask lol. if you have criticism you need to be able to articulate it. not just say "do it better". you can comment on it, but if you don't have a suggestion on how they could do it better, it's a useless comment.
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lachesis
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I think it's actually not a bad thing. If you value TV connectivity (some sort of TV out would have been nice, though) - conventional switch is still there.
As per my daughter's case - she solely uses as handheld machine. No matter how much I beg her to dock it to the TV, but she just likes to play in handheld mode. Since I myself don't own a switch myself - I may just buy one of this and get her switch as my own - as I can't see shit on small screen with my old eyes very well. Text seems to be too small to be enjoyable (at least for the breath of the wild) - and I like to play games on my big TV.
As per my daughter's case - she solely uses as handheld machine. No matter how much I beg her to dock it to the TV, but she just likes to play in handheld mode. Since I myself don't own a switch myself - I may just buy one of this and get her switch as my own - as I can't see shit on small screen with my old eyes very well. Text seems to be too small to be enjoyable (at least for the breath of the wild) - and I like to play games on my big TV.
TLZ
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Seriously though, why are you asking us to come up with the name? It's not our job, just like it wasn't us who called it a Switch. And we're totally right to criticize this.
DESTROYA
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I mean I agree the naming isn't ideal, I just don't think it will hinder sales or confuse people that much.
But yeah, if I were them I'd have done three Skus at launch to cover all bases and named them better.
Something like:
Hybrid: Nintendo Stay and Go or Nintendo Home and Away.
TV only: Nintendo Stay or Nintendo Home
Portable Only: Nintendo Go or Nintendo Away
I suck at names so I'm sure others can come up with something more clever that rolls of the tongue more (probably not the company that thought Wii U was a good name though!). But you get the gist.
But I get that they wanted to unify and were in a not great place with the Wii U bombing and the 3DS selling so much less than the DS so they just wanted to launch one thing and get it right and not launch three versions of something at once.
I do think they could have named this better. Instead of Nintendo Switch Light, why not Nintendo Switch Portable? Then if they every did a screenless one (I doubt it personally) it could be Nintendo Switch Home (or whatever) and the base just stays "Nintendo Switch." Still not ideal as all have "switch" in the name, but it better gets across that its the same system games wise, but with different functionalities in terms of portable, TV play or both.
Zog
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You can't see that this device does not 'Switch'?
You don't remember why Nintendo used the name 'Switch' in the first place, it wasn't a generic name it was a description of it's capabilities.
Now you say 'you have to come up with a better name if you don't like this name', that is ridiculous.
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PSFan
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You can still do that if Nintendo allows you to have both a Switch and a Switch mini tied to your account. Then you can just switch Switches to play portably. I'm thinking about doing this, so my OG Switch just stays in the dock for TV play and the mini would be for portable/handheld play.
#Phonepunk#
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confusion. the current Switch is already portable, this would make parent think "is this other one not portable?" both Switches are portable, this one can't be docked. but you can't just say "Undocked Version"
Lite is easy, fast, people know it is a scaled down version. used across markets and industries. pretty simple.
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Codes 208
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Honestly the way i see it, arguing the semantics of a handheld-only switch being a switch that doesnt switch sounds like nothing more than nit-picking. Hardware and software-wise its the same product minus tv ouput. If it was called a switch lite but couldnt play switch games at all then i would say the criticism is legit.
Zog
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The word 'Lite' isn't the issue here.
The same minus the Switching part.
Think they should have named the 3D-less 3DS the 3DS Lite?
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ColonialRaptor
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This version is basically the Switch “Pokemon Sword and Shield” Lite. I mean that’s the game that’s going to sell this version of the switch right? I can see this doing extremely well in Japan and not so well in the rest of the world (but in the end it will take over 3ds and become the premier handheld).
Personally it seems like madness to buy this version why would anyone not want the ability to put it on the big screen and play on TV but I’ve never really been a handheld gamer.
Personally it seems like madness to buy this version why would anyone not want the ability to put it on the big screen and play on TV but I’ve never really been a handheld gamer.
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