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I'm crying.
They kind of are.
I'm crying.
all the people saying "does it really hurt the game" probably super quiet when others complain that a protag is a white male
Where is my small dick flag?
Guys, guys, guys....
Love is love. And I'm going to "come out" and tell you.....
That I love Emma Roberts and I'm PROUD of it.
Then don't fucking buy it. And don't cry when other people do.
Jesus christ you are unbelievable. You would be the first in line to cry about a game that doesn't check off all your SJW quotas so take your own damn advice if a game doesn't shove all this extreme leftist propaganda down our throats.
You are lying to yourself and everyone else as to your agenda, you are clearly arguing that being proud of the LGBT group must be represented even in gaming but god forbid you mention you are straight, can't be proud of that!!!!! Look, when i am gaming i just want to kill you, i don't care about your orientation, i don't want to know your orientation. I just want you to know that i hate everyone equally and that i am there to have fun, get my ego on and just have a good time. I don't log onto a game to yet again be reminded of SJW culture bullshit.
Let's see
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That one was in response to me saying that if you should be proud to be gay, then you should be proud to be straight as well
If you don't want to give the impression that you're against something, then perhaps you shouldn't make posts that argue against it?
Not to mention that if you're ok with a straight pride flag then what are we even discussing here?
Maybe i misunderstood but i got the distinct feeling that you were against it from your previous posts. If you're not then it's my mistake. My stance is still the same - either include all orientations or don't include any at all. I personally prefer to exclude any such thing that has a political connotation and yes, a transexual pride flag is political. The 18 Tumblr genders even more so. The reason it should be there is the same reason any of the other flags should be there. You don't get to claim to be diverse and inclusive while excluding the largest demographicWhy are you so angry? My goodness lol.
You are allowed to be proud of being straight if you want. I'm just 100% sure you wouldn't feel this way if gay pride flags weren't more accepted, but okay. And why is it so bad to know someone's orientation? Some people state what country they are from in their AVIs. Why be upset about this?
So where did I say some straight pride flag shouldn't be in a game? I was asking why it would be there. I'm not even sure why a straight flag would even be invented. And I'm straight. But I don't care if it's in there. Doesn't matter to me. But yes, the straight pride flag seems silly to me, but that's my opinion.
And that's kind of an interesting statement about other people buying in, considering that 'woketrash' tends to range from underperforming, to destroying entire brands.
Try asking Gillette or Nike how it worked out for themLike Captain Marvel? LOL. Gears 5 will sell just fine without the xenophobes.
Like Captain Marvel? LOL. Gears 5 will sell just fine without the xenophobes.
What game have I ever criticized for not being enough SJW? You're full of shit. I could give two shits either way.
Try asking Gillette or Nike how it worked out for them
For one, thinking pride flags are dumb doesn’t make one -phobic of anything.
Maybe i misunderstood but i got the distinct feeling that you were against it from your previous posts. If you're not then it's my mistake. My stance is still the same - either include all orientations or don't include any at all. I personally prefer to exclude any such thing that has a political connotation and yes, a transexual pride flag is political. The 18 Tumblr genders even more so. The reason it should be there is the same reason any of the other flags should be there. You don't get to claim to be diverse and inclusive while excluding the largest demographic
You should tell their shareholders. I'm sure they'd wanna know that they're just imagining their stocks losing valueNike is up since the Kaepernick ad.
Depends. If the flag has strong political connotations then yea just like i'd be opposed to a MAGA flagThen you must be against national flags in games too then right?
Like Captain Marvel? LOL. Gears 5 will sell just fine without the xenophobes.
Kekiphobe!No flag for Kekistan it's a no-go from me, dog.
Depends. If the flag has strong political connotations then yea just like i'd be opposed to a MAGA flag
I know and i answered you. Why are you going off on a tangent anyway? Is this another lame attempt at a gotcha moment that will end in a fallacious non-argument? It seems like a waste of time and you people defending those flags sure do seem to have an issue staying on topicI'm talking about these flags.
Or just game developers that want to engage and entertain the player?Whatever happened to games grounded in either fantasy or reality?
I'm talking about these flags.
Or just game developers that want to engage and entertain the player?
After all, fictional media are meant to entertain, not preach.
After all, fictional media are meant to entertain, not preach.
And if the audience is not engaged, then the product will not be successful and eventually be canned.Fictional media can do anything the creator wants it to, just so long as the audience is prepared to engage!
Hardly see how this is relevant to what I was saying. Yes, they can technically do anything, but not anything will click with consumers.Games can literally do anything, from offering a purely intellectual experience to a purely linear narrative one, to offering a playground for people to interact with each other, to offering some kind of mixture of all or any of these.
Never mentioned messages. My comment mentioned preaching which is a major turn off. People consume media to be entertained, not be told what to think or how to think.Games can have a message or none. They can be about this, or that, or anything. This has always been the case since Space War (depending on how you interpret it!).
And yet, the most preachy works of fiction have been the worst performing works *cough* The Last Jedi.Fiction is the basis of much of the organised preaching that's taken place in human history, I'm afraid.
And if the audience is not engaged, then the product will not be successful and eventually be canned.
Hardly see how this is relevant to what I was saying. Yes, they can technically do anything, but not anything will click with consumers.
Never mentioned messages. My comment mentioned preaching which is a major turn off. People consume media to be entertained, not be told what to think or how to think.
And yet, the most preachy works of fiction have been the worst performing works *cough* The Last Jedi.
The thing is, though, is if the story is boring, no one will care. Doesn't matter if the story has huge messages or not. People will just tune out from boredom.Absolutely. But what you're doing here is breaking a response to a more specific point point you made: "After all, fictional media are meant to entertain, not preach" into responses that are becoming out of context. Not intentionally mind. I think we're not joining up well in terms of what we're discussing.
Well, that's one interesting way to describe it and I don't necessarily disagree, lol.Well preaching is kind of a hardcore message, being driven into your mind like a dick into a pornstar. Ostensibly a dialogue but actually more about delivering a load.
The Bible was sold as word from God, the gateway to getting to Heaven. Basically, it was marketed as a self-help book more than a work of fiction.Bible has done pretty well for itself the last couple of millennia. Fiction and shared, propagated fiction has a deep seated evolutionary role beyond just "entertaining" in the modern sense.
"Can" is vastly different from "In practice".TLDR: To get back to my original point, fictional media can absolutely be as much, or more, about preaching as entertaining.
Definitely agree with this.And there are some that think media should only be about preaching. And in some cases only in a particular way, with a particular race and / or gender and / or sex as the villain.
This is a real thing, and it sucks.
The thing is, though, is if the story is boring, no one will care. Doesn't matter if the story has huge messages or not. People will just tune out from boredom.
The Bible was sold as word from God, the gateway to getting to Heaven. Basically, it was marketed as a self-help book more than a work of fiction.
"Can" is vastly different from "In practice".
Also, add into the fact that preaching doesn't come for free. Time, effort, and resources are put into preaching. As a result, a developer that spends significant time and resources into preachy social commentary could've put used that time and resources towards gameplay, systems, music, etc. instead.
This is why we see things like The Last Jedi not being well received or the Gillette commercial being widely disliked. The prioritization of preachy (and often, off-base) social commentary came at the cost of engagement and enjoyment.
I already said it once in this thread, but being proud of something you have no control over is stupid in my opinion. But please read the post I made above you
I know and i answered you. Why are you going off on a tangent anyway? Is this another lame attempt at a gotcha moment that will end in a fallacious non-argument? It seems like a waste of time and you people defending those flags sure do seem to have an issue staying on topic
Since LGBTQ people were born that way and have no control over it they are being stupid for showing pride right?
It's people like yourself that lend the conversation to this direction. You are bothered by something that doesn't include you at all. It's just weird.
People show pride in many things that they had no control over. Again people have pride in the country that they were born in.
So it's my fault you're incapable of staying on topic? Ok, sure. How dare i stay on topic and refuse to let you derail the thread. It's just a straight pride flag. Why do you care? You are bothered by people being proud of being straight. It's just weirdIt's people like yourself that lend the conversation to this direction. You are bothered by something that doesn't include you at all. It's just weird.
People show pride in many things that they had no control over. Again people have pride in the country that they were born in.
Again, you can choose your country. It isn't something you have "no control over". Unlike sex.
So it's my fault you're incapable of staying on topic? Ok, sure. How dare i stay on topic and refuse to let you derail the topic. It's just a straight pride flag. Why do you care? It's just weird
But you can't choose which country you were born in. 99% of the time that's what people are so-called proud of. The country that they are born in. You can't choose that. That's your heritage. That's your identity and culture for 90+% of people.
- I don't care about a straight pride flag. You do. If you want to rock that flag fine. I don't care. You are the one that cares about the gay pride flag. That's the point.
- The point about the national flag is that they too can be viewed as political. Can you not understand that?
Your numerous posts in this thread says otherwiseI don't care about a straight pride flag
No, i care about equality because i'm not a bigotYou are the one that cares about the gay pride flag. That's the point
The point is you're comparing apples and oranges. Can you not understand that?The point about the national flag is that they too can be viewed as political. Can you not understand that?
Your numerous posts in this thread says otherwise
The point is you're comparing apples and oranges. Can you not understand that?
Be proud of actual accomplishments you have achieved, not immutable characteristics. And always remain humble within that pride.
I said a trans flag was political as are the Tumblr gender flagsI didn't know a straight pride flag even existed until yesterday lol. Plus how can a gay pride flag be political? There's no politics in that flag.
You posted a recent 5 day stock timeline that barely moved when Kaepernick's ads came out at the beginning of September last year?You should tell their shareholders. I'm sure they'd wanna know that they're just imagining their stocks losing value
Be proud of actual accomplishments you have achieved, not immutable characteristics. And always remain humble within that pride.
You posted a recent 5 day stock timeline that barely moved when Kaepernick's ads came out at the beginning of September last year?
To be fair you can't tell other people what they can and can't be proud of. Especially if those people have been discriminated against due to those immutable characteristics.
But how they overcome the discrimination is dependent on the content of their character, so DeepEnigma’s point still stands.To be fair you can't tell other people what they can and can't be proud of. Especially if those people have been discriminated against due to those immutable characteristics.