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[Passive_Bob]

Playstation 5 - $399

• Digital Only
• Playstation Plus - 1 free month trial
  • Performance upgrade patch - 4K & 60FPS:
    • Bloodborne
    • God of War
    • Marvel's Spider-Man
    • The Last of Us - Part II
    • Death Stranding
    • Ghost of Tsushima
    • Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
    • Gran Turismo Sport
    • Horizon Zero Dawn
    • And many more ..
• Playstation Now - 1 free month trial
• Dreams pre-installed

Playstation 5 Pro - $499

• Playstation Plus - 1 free month trial
  • Performance upgrade patch - 4K & 60FPS:
    • Bloodborne
    • God of War
    • Marvel's Spider-Man
    • The Last of Us - Part II
    • Death Stranding
    • Ghost of Tsushima
    • Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
    • Gran Turismo Sport
    • Horizon Zero Dawn
    • And many more ..
• Playstation Now - 1 free month trial
• Dreams pre-installed

Do it.

 

[Yoboman]

Give me a PS5 and then a Pro at the half gen point

You’re not going to get much more for $100 extra at launch

 

[cryptoadam]

I could see like phones. You get more RAM and storage.

 

[Kenpachii]

How much performance could be gained if they built a Pro console that focused on overclocking the GPU and CPU? Then paired it with a much more efficient cooling system.

Big chance the one u think is going to be the base is actually the pro with the base being weaker and holding PS5 back in general.

It's a bad idea.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

I have a hard time believing they will go this route

I think there is more money to be made with a true mid-gen refresh

 

[kingwingin]

I dont get it. the technology for a pro console exists at the same time the base console releases? Should just jump right to ps6 then

 

[bilderberg]

That's how it should have been from the start. My interest in ps4 died when the pro came out. I'm not gonna be gimped playing ps4 games on base hardware knowing there's a better experience with pro. Early adopters got fucked way harder this gen than ever before. Either they release them both simultaneously, or i'm just not buying a ps5 until several years after launch when the pro comes out.

 

[mckmas8808]

This is stupid and makes ZERO sense.

 

[captainraincoat]

699 ps5 incoming

 

[Romulus]

I'm not gonna be gimped playing ps4 games on base hardware knowing there's a better experience with pro.

So do you not play multiplatforms at all? Because PC versions are have always been further along than any Pro version.

 

[TLZ]

Leave the base at 399 of they can since it's proved this price works for the masses, while also making sure it doesn't gimp the whole generation. And have the Pro version at 599 if possible, since it's for the enthusiast anyway, having all the extras like higher clocks and ram, storage and better cooling. A $100 extra isn't worth it. Make it worth its higher value. If they can't, then better leave it for a midgen refresh.

 

[Romulus]

I dont get it. the technology for a pro console exists at the same time the base console releases? Should just jump right to ps6 then

But any modern console at $400-500 is underpowered on day 1. There's tons of room for more power.

 

[vpance]

I dont get it. the technology for a pro console exists at the same time the base console releases? Should just jump right to ps6 then

Yes it's a unique situation because of 7nm and 7nm+.

That's how it should have been from the start. My interest in ps4 died when the pro came out. I'm not gonna be gimped playing ps4 games on base hardware knowing there's a better experience with pro. Early adopters got fucked way harder this gen than ever before. Either they release them both simultaneously, or i'm just not buying a ps5 until several years after launch when the pro comes out.

It wasn't that terrible this gen, mainly because base and Pro were relatively cheap. But looking back it was mostly useless if you didn't have a 4K TV. Next gen will 100% be more expensive so I don't think repeating the same thing is gonna work half as well.

 

[bilderberg]

So do you not play multiplatforms at all? Because PC versions are have always been further along than any Pro version.

I play multi plats on pc, but you can't compare the ps4/pro situation to a pc. You don't have to buy a whole new pc if you just wanna upgrade from a gtx 1060 to a 1080.

 

[Romulus]

I play multi plats on pc, but you can't compare the ps4/pro situation to a pc. You don't have to buy a whole new pc if you just wanna upgrade from a gtx 1060 to a 1080.

That makes more sense if you have a pc, but the pro improvements are so marginal by comparison unless you're in VR and even then it's not huge. I just dont see how it could put someone off I guess. Everyone is different.

 

[Barakov]

Yeah, this ain't happening. They'd make more money off people who'd upgrade to the pro version in 2-3 years.

 

[Clear]

Not happening. Multiple SKU's at launch are very possible, but its a contradiction in terms to have a mid-gen refresh SKU introduced at the start of a gen!

By definition, you need technological improvements gained over time to be the equivalent of a Pro or One X.

 

[Barnabot]

Nothing is definitive until it has "definitive version" tagged into that.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Playstation 5 - $299

• Playstation Plus - 1 free year trial
  • Performance upgrade patch - 4K & 60FPS:
    • GRAVITY RUSH 2 COMPLETE EDITION
    • Bloodborne
    • God of War
    • Marvel's Spider-Man
    • The Last of Us - Part II
    • Death Stranding
    • Ghost of Tsushima
    • Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
    • Gran Turismo Sport
    • Horizon Zero Dawn
    • And many more .. in Physical Game
• Playstation Now - 1 free month trial
• Dreams pre-installed
• One controller

Playstation 5 Pro - $399

• Playstation Plus - 1 free year trial
  • Performance upgrade patch - 4K & 60FPS:
    • GRAVITY RUSH 2 COMPLETE EDITION
    • Bloodborne
    • God of War
    • Marvel's Spider-Man
    • The Last of Us - Part II
    • Death Stranding
    • Ghost of Tsushima
    • Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
    • Gran Turismo Sport
    • Horizon Zero Dawn
    • And many more .. in Physical game
• Playstation Now - 1 free month trial
• Dreams pre-installed
• Two Controllers

Do it.

Fix it.

 

[Ten_Fold]

Should just make the stronger version the main, and make an even stronger version 2-3 after.

 

[Croatoan]

$1000 console!?

You're crazy, ya whole family's crazy.

Lol I just bought a $1000 gpu....

 

[Chittagong]

It’s a clever move.

+ Pro model with sky high marketing performance figures => performance leader perception
+ Tard pack with low pricepoint => low price perception
+ Gamers will pick up the expensive model at the launch => higher ASP than previous launches

The only down side is that games will need to work on the low end model, so they will be developed for the lowest common denominator.

 

[E-Cat]

It’s a clever move.

+ Pro model with sky high marketing performance figures => performance leader perception
+ Tard pack with low pricepoint => low price perception
+ Gamers will pick up the expensive model at the launch => higher ASP than previous launches

The only down side is that games will need to work on the low end model, so they will be developed for the lowest common denominator.

Lowest common denominator really only becomes a problem when you need to scale by a factor of >3x.

 

[TheBoss1]

While I'm down for a Pro version, I don't think it makes sense financially for Sony to release the two versions at the same time. People who are willing to buy a Pro will most likely pay for one even after already owning the base version, just like during the PS4's life cycle. This is why I don't think this will happen. They will most likely do what they did this generation and stagger the release.

 

[McRazzle]

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It isn't about resolution because gpus can be used for lots of different tasks, as can a cpu.

Think of the base spec console as how much money you have to build a house (computing power = $) . If you have $100k to budget, then you have to work within that. The type and style of house is up to you, the developer. You want maximum sq footage, or do you want super energy efficient, or cutting edge style?

With game dev, you need to ask how much you want to spend on AI, object permanence, interactivity, world size, etc etc. But all of it must fit into your base spec because the game (the actual gameplay) has to be the same on both machines. You do not build two games.

So you build your $100k house. The pro version of that house would be you taking the base and then spending another 100k on exterior superficial stuff like landscaping, garden gnomes, etc. The house is still the house. You dont get to take the extra $100k and build a better, different $200k house.

The pro version of the game is merely upping the rez, fps, AA, etc. The game is still the game. You don’t nt get to build a better, different game with the extra resources available..

Making two different versions of a game wouldn't be that big of a burden for first parties, especially if they were to use AI to assist in adapting to different specs.

Third party developers are still going to be making their games playable for the GTX 1050's/1060's.
PC's are going to be holding back console games next gen.

 

[MayauMiao]

Pro will probably feature backward compatibility from PS1 to PS4.

 

[Teslerum]

Do you mean the Playstation 5 Pro Plus Plus or the Playstation 5 Pro Plus Prime? In any case, you should wait for the slim version.

And then inevitably wait for the PS6. Who the hell even buys a PS5 at that time anymore?

 

[xrnzaaas]

I can see this happening. Personally I'm gonna buy the strongest day 1 model just to avoid the inevitable PS5 Pro Pro model a few years later.

 

[Negotiator]

I can see this happening. Personally I'm gonna buy the strongest day 1 model just to avoid the inevitable PS5 Pro Pro model a few years later.

You're not gonna avoid that. A PS5 Ultra at 5nm will always be stronger than PS5 Pro at 7nm.

 

[NeatoB1]

Full disclosure I'm a PlayStation guy 1st. with that said I'm buying the most technically impressive spec driven PlayStation they put out

 

[Myths]

To support ray tracing? Pfft yeah, keep tryna give us a run for our money, PC

 

[Xdrive05]

My wild speculation: $449 base model with 6TF GPU targeting 1080p+, and $699 Pro model 12TF for 4K+.

Same: CPU and high speed hybrid storage medium acts like a RAMdisk. Different: GPUs, Ram capacity and storage capacity.

 

[TheGreatYosh]

That would be a bad move by Sony. They should just release the Pro version as the standard. So we have a better baseline for next gen.

 

[vpance]

My wild speculation: $449 base model with 6TF GPU targeting 1080p+, and $699 Pro model 12TF for 4K+.

Same: CPU and high speed hybrid storage medium acts like a RAMdisk. Different: GPUs, Ram capacity and storage capacity.

That's horrible pricing. If they do it I'll be like $399 8TF $549-599 13TF.

 

[Gamernyc78]

My wild speculation: $449 base model with 6TF GPU targeting 1080p+, and $699 Pro model 12TF for 4K+.

Same: CPU and high speed hybrid storage medium acts like a RAMdisk. Different: GPUs, Ram capacity and storage capacity.

Dbl post.

 

[Gamernyc78]

My wild speculation: $449 base model with 6TF GPU targeting 1080p+, and $699 Pro model 12TF for 4K+.

Same: CPU and high speed hybrid storage medium acts like a RAMdisk. Different: GPUs, Ram capacity and storage capacity.

Tht I bet is way off lol 699 only a few die hard will buy and it doesn't matter there's a cheaper version.. One of those skus will be 499 and no one wants a 6tf machine. If there are two models the weakest will be no less than 8tf and high end 12. High end sky topping off at 600.

 

[xrnzaaas]

You're not gonna avoid that. A PS5 Ultra at 5nm will always be stronger than PS5 Pro at 7nm.

I've avoided buying a PS4 Pro so far. I'm just oldschool this way and if it's possible I want to buy one console for the entire generation length.

 

[Knightime_X]

JFC
Just put out 1 console!
Pro or gtfo
If this ends up being real my panties will get all kinds of twisted and bunched up.
>_<

 

[Woodchipper]

This sounds horrible. Two or three storage options I can live with, but not two different consoles.

 

[vkbest]

This is pretty bad idea, Sony has been incompetent with PS4 Pro those years and want to release a Pro system at launch? There are games yet releasing without pro support after 3 years from launch! Sony shouldn’t let this

Besides looks like much developers don’t want give option for 60fps on online games because advantage over base model.

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

After the Pro and even the X, I doubt most developers would take full advantage of the extra processing power. Not sure if two PS5’s are a good idea. I think the weaker hardware would somehow hold back the stronger hardware because you know, developers rarely take full advantage of extra power.

 

[Jigsaah]

Starting to see more videos surface about the supposed 2 SKU launch of PS5. It's based on the same source as this thread was originally based on but I've seen attempts of debunking this notion very shortly after the "rumor" was announced.

What's the news on this? Is it a rumor or just some random journalist's speculation?

 

[Justin9mm]

Should I wait for the mid-gen PlayStation 5 Pro Plus then

I could actually see them naming it this if there was one. The Playstation Pro+ just like phones lol

Also, I will be buying the Pro Day 1.. I can afford a couple hundred extra dollars for it.

 

[MayauMiao]

I wouldn't mind if PS5 comes with base model that supports only up to 1080p while Pro will cater to the one wanting 4K.

 

[Justin9mm]

After the Pro and even the X, I doubt most developers would take full advantage of the extra processing power. Not sure if two PS5’s are a good idea. I think the weaker hardware would somehow hold back the stronger hardware because you know, developers rarely take full advantage of extra power.

The base PS5 will still be a significant powerhouse upgrade compared to current PS4 Pro. I think the difference between PS5 and PS5 Pro would be more options. PS5 would probably be more like Dynamic 4K but with higher Pixel count than the existing Pro with 60fps which it could do easy but PS5 Pro might be able to go Native 4K/60fps without any loss of graphical fidelity for example.

If base PS5 is going to support any sort of Ray Tracing and 8K video then it would have some serious processing power under the hood regardless. Considering what they have squeezed graphically out of the PS4 Pro on old Hardware tech, I'm not too worried!

 

[DeepEnigma]

Starting to see more videos surface about the supposed 2 SKU launch of PS5. It's based on the same source as this thread was originally based on but I've seen attempts of debunking this notion very shortly after the "rumor" was announced.

What's the news on this? Is it a rumor or just some random journalist's speculation?

It’s made up news based off this journalist’s personal speculation.

Nothing more.

 

[spanna]

Surely it will just be standard 1tb ssd. Pro 2tb ssd.

 

[Negotiator]

Starting to see more videos surface about the supposed 2 SKU launch of PS5. It's based on the same source as this thread was originally based on but I've seen attempts of debunking this notion very shortly after the "rumor" was announced.

What's the news on this? Is it a rumor or just some random journalist's speculation?

Maybe Sony is trying to deceive MS by pretending they're gonna launch 2 SKUs?

 

[Jigsaah]

Maybe Sony is trying to deceive MS by pretending they're gonna launch 2 SKUs?

I'm not sure but if PS5 is doing the 2 SKU thing I think for me it's a good thing. I had always planned on buying both systems, so when Microsoft said they would have 2 SKUS I thought I could buy the PS5 and then the cheaper version of Next Gen Xbox. Logic would dictate that I would just go the other way if this ends up being the case. I would just buy the Xbox Scarlett and the cheaper PS5.

 

[Journey]

They're probably trying the same strategy as 360 when it launched. The Core console vs the Pro meant a few extras that you could eventually upgrade to, like a bigger HDD.