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[xPikYx]

Hell blade 2 is prerendered cutscene(at 24 FPS) . Go and see how beautiful those were in 2000 for final fantasy games . It had no bearing on how the games looked though

here is another one, again, speaking of fps, resolution, bla bla technical crap. Image quality, this and only this matters .this gives you the next gen leap. I can run PS2 ICO easily at 8k 200fps on my emulator, but still is a 3 gen behind game

Next Gen Visual asset

Current Gen

Previous gen asset

Hellblade 2 REPRESENTS the leap I expect the next gen to look like. Clear? Halo Infinite and Godfall, NO!!! That's current gen with bumped resolution and cool effects

 

[MARTYWOLF]

Refering back to my linkedin find

" • Designed flagship PS5016-E16, world's first PCIe Gen4x4 NVMe SSD solution, and PS5019-E19, DRAM-less PCIe Gen4x4 NVMe SSD installed in Xbox Scarlett by hosting scrum ceremonies as scrum master. Integrated the development of project standards, procedures and quality objectives across with 2 cross-functional teams"

He only states scarlett so its not to say its in lockhart aswell

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

Well Phison straight up said they are not supplying Sony PS5... what do you want more?

It is not even a “leak”... it is actually the own company stating that.

Are you referring to the MoneyDJ link above or another source?

The main point I was making though is that I would hope that Phison PR video saying consoles implies more than one platform rather than referring to multiple SKUs of one or even in the sense of literally more than one console will contain a Phison controller!

 

[Gamernyc78]

here is another one, again, speaking of fps, resolution, bla bla technical crap. Image quality, this and only this matters .this gives you the next gen leap. I can run PS2 ICO easily at 8k 200fps on my emulator, but still is a 3 gen behind game

Next Gen Visual asset

Current Gen

Previous gen asset

Hellblade 2 REPRESENTS the leap I expect the next gen to look like. Clear? Halo Infinite and Godfall, NO!!! That's current gen with bumped resolution and cool effects

Nice cherry picking lol when there are tons of in game and cutscene pics tht looks wayyyyy better than what u posted of Uncharted and God of War shit tht rivals tht Hellblade pic come on not this shit again.

 

[Tommy Fisher]

here is another one, again, speaking of fps, resolution, bla bla technical crap. Image quality, this and only this matters .this gives you the next gen leap. I can run PS2 ICO easily at 8k 200fps on my emulator, but still is a 3 gen behind game

Next Gen Visual asset

Current Gen

Previous gen asset

Hellblade 2 REPRESENTS the leap I expect the next gen to look like. Clear? Halo Infinite and Godfall, NO!!! That's current gen with bumped resolution and cool effects

Wait till see the first teaser of GoW:R.

 

[Shin]

Refering back to my linkedin find

" • Designed flagship PS5016-E16, world's first PCIe Gen4x4 NVMe SSD solution, and PS5019-E19, DRAM-less PCIe Gen4x4 NVMe SSD installed in Xbox Scarlett by hosting scrum ceremonies as scrum master. Integrated the development of project standards, procedures and quality objectives across with 2 cross-functional teams"

He only states scarlett so its not to say its in lockhart aswell

Good shit and it seems they are riding that wave as the timing of the YT video is impeccable.

 

[ethomaz]

The problem i have with that phison denied supplying for ps5 is that it uses a company called ""groups celectronics co" I cant find any evidence of it being the parent company of phison unless im reading it wrong lol

They use their name lol

Qunlian = Phison.

微软Xbox Series X将采用群联主控PCIe 4.0 SSD，速度可达7GB/s - IT之家

根据Digitimes的消息，群联已经成为微软Xbox Series X的供应链，为其提供SSD，几乎可以肯定是PCIe 4.0版本

m.ithome.com

 

[Fake]

here is another one, again, speaking of fps, resolution, bla bla technical crap. Image quality, this and only this matters .this gives you the next gen leap. I can run PS2 ICO easily at 8k 200fps on my emulator, but still is a 3 gen behind game

Next Gen Visual asset

Current Gen

Previous gen asset

Hellblade 2 REPRESENTS the leap I expect the next gen to look like. Clear? Halo Infinite and Godfall, NO!!! That's current gen with bumped resolution and cool effects

Are you comparing a real time cutscene with a trailer?

 

[Gavin Stevens]

I have to give my wife £70 for the shopping every week and all I get out of it is some chicken popstars and a tin of potatoes.

what are we on about?

 

[FranXico]

Wait till see the first teaser of GoW:R.

That's what Bluepoint are working on? The original God of War games?

Come on...

 

[ethomaz]

Are you referring to the MoneyDJ link above or another source?

The main point I was making though is that I would hope that Phison PR video saying consoles implies more than one platform rather than referring to multiple SKUs of one or even in the sense of literally more than one console will contain a Phison controller!

Phison PR already said they have no order to supply Sony PS5.

 

[Gamernyc78]

Wait till see the first teaser of GoW:R.

Stop fucking playing Fisher!!!!

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

Phison PR already said they have no order to supply Sony PS5.

Do you have the link? Maybe Switch Pro will gain a SSD!

 

[SlimySnake]

Nice cherry picking lol when there are tons of in game and cutscene pics tht looks wayyyyy better than what u posted of Uncharted and God of War shit tht rivals tht Hellblade pic come on not this shit again.

you do understand what hes saying here right?

also the kratos model is one of the best looking model this gen. drake's U3 model is straight up prerendered. hes drawing a comparison to show that a leap of that kind IS possible for next gen.

i actually think games will look even better than hellblade 2. when kojipro, SSM, and Naughty dog get their hands on next gen hardware, their character models will look better than the hellblade 2 model.

 

[xPikYx]

Ok people don't get. I renounce to make you understand

 

[FrozenFlame]

Drop my predictions

PS Meeting date revealed - 5th February
PS Meeting - 26th February

PS Meeting Games
- Horizon 2
- Ratchet and Clank Sequel
- Assassin's Creed Sequel
- EA Sports (No footage)
- Activision (No Game Reveal, just talk)
- Capcom New IP (Next Gen RE Engine)
- Team Siren New IP (Open World)
- Arrowhead Games New IP (PSN Digital Game)
- Unreal Tech Demo
- Control PS5 Enhanced Footage (Ray Trace) (Free Patch) (Backwards Compatibility Showcase)

That's so low key that doesn't sound like a prediction and more like what exactly is going to happen.

 

[DJ12]

World smallest console, or worlds biggest NVMe. I cannot decide.

 

[ethomaz]

Do you have the link? Maybe Switch Pro will gain a SSD!

WOW I posted the link already.

群聯：公司並未接獲索尼PS5訂單 - 新聞 - MoneyDJ理財網

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m.moneydj.com

Or consoles means consoles like MS won’t sell a single console lol

 

[Insane Metal]

Oh boy. Leak is real.

 

[johnjohn]

That's what Bluepoint are working on? The original God of War games?

Come on...

I assume he means God of War Ragnarok. And of course it's going to be a visual showcase for PS5, we don't need faux insiders to tell us that.

 

[Brudda26]

here is another one, again, speaking of fps, resolution, bla bla technical crap. Image quality, this and only this matters .this gives you the next gen leap. I can run PS2 ICO easily at 8k 200fps on my emulator, but still is a 3 gen behind game

Next Gen Visual asset

Current Gen

Previous gen asset

Hellblade 2 REPRESENTS the leap I expect the next gen to look like. Clear? Halo Infinite and Godfall, NO!!! That's current gen with bumped resolution and cool effects

Lmao using in game real time cut scenes against a in engine cinematic render that focuses on visuals and nothing else. This is also current gen. Point being interns of in game you wont get what's depicted in the H2 cinematic.

 

[iamvin22]

Are you comparing a real time cutscene with a trailer?

I literally laughed so hard I spat out my drink, thanks

 

[Proelite]

Confirmation that Scarlett is using NVme Gen4

 

[R600]

17.1 Phison says they havent received PS5 order

18.1 Phison receives PS5 order

21.1 Phison confirms they will provide multiple consoles with their controllers while also showing of picture of PS4Pro in official video

22.1 Phison confirms they will supply PS5 controller

 

[Hawking Radiation]

^^^ That is not the PS5 design. It looks like PS4 Pro with a PS1 controller.

I have yet to see any concept design that makes sense in the real world.

 

[DJ12]

Are you comparing a real time cutscene with a trailer?

Just saying

 

[Bryank75]

Some good info on acquisitions and marketing deals for Xbox from Rand!

Note: acquisition in Japan possibly White Owl games, marketing for WB Montreal Batman game with One X custom console, Cyberpunk marketing.
Poland acquisition... smaller studio, not CDPR.

 

[Brudda26]

Some good info on acquisitions and marketing deals for Xbox from Rand!

I'm not watching the video cant be bothered but going by the thumbnail this leaked is based off that totally bogus "leak" that appeared on reddit a day or so ago.

 

[SlimySnake]

Lmao using in game real time cut scenes against a in engine cinematic render that focuses on visuals and nothing else. This is also current gen. Point being interns of in game you wont get what's depicted in the H2 cinematic.

uncharted cutsceneslast gen werent realtime. they were literally rendered on a render farm of 8 PS3s. there are pics of that set up out there.

regardless, the guy is simply saying that you will see a gap that big when going to next gen. he isnt insulting ps exclusives. of course her character model wont look that good in game, but then again, thats to be expected since thats the case this gen. Drake didnt look that good in game in U4 despite it being realtime, same with ellie and kratos. gamers who visit these boards know that games dont look as good in gameplay than they do in cutscenes. but next gen cutscenes should look that good. if not better than the hellblade 2 scenes.

ninja theory is good but not that good. their output on the ps3 was very impressive, but was topped by naughty dog, koji pro and ssm. hellblade 1's character model is impressive but not as impressive as character models in several sony first party titles or even gears of war 4. as impressive as hellblade 2 looks, i dont expect it to be THE best thing we will see next gen. there will be better looking games which is what that poster was saying in the first place.

 

[R600]

I guess MS is cheapening out on SSD when compared to Sony.

 

[Deleted member 775630]

Confirmation that Scarlett is using NVme Gen4

That would mean 3.6GB/s max. Not too shabby, the only question is that IF the PS5 has a 5GB/s max, will we notice a difference in the games.

 

[Bryank75]

I'm not watching the video cant be bothered but going by the thumbnail this leaked is based off that totally bogus "leak" that appeared on reddit a day or so ago.

Yes, the leak is bogus but he gives his input, which is far more informed. He has contacts at Xbox.

 

[Proelite]

That would mean 3.6GB/s max. Not too shabby, the only question is that IF the PS5 has a 5GB/s max, will we notice a difference in the games.

I couldn't find the specs for e-19. It's a cheaper part than e-16 for sure.

 

[SlimySnake]

That would mean 3.6GB/s max. Not too shabby, the only question is that IF the PS5 has a 5GB/s max, will we notice a difference in the games.

windows central leak (or was it thurrot.com?) said it was 2.5gbps. they also leaked the 12 tflops number which was later confirmed by phil himself.

 

[FranXico]

I guess MS is cheapening out on SSD when compared to Sony.

Maybe that way they can afford higher storage capacity. Besides, they prioritized investment on the GPU.

 

[Deleted member 775630]

I couldn't find the specs for e-19. It's a cheaper part than e-16 for sure.

Tomshardware - Xbox Series X SSDs Will be Powered by Phison Controller, Report Claims

No way, at least nvme pcie4 in ps5. According to leaks, ps5 is faster than fast, so it is even more exciting. Based Mark Sony may grant us his secret reRAM sauce. Yeah sure buddy, Mark Cerny also said PS4 Pro is 8.4 TF using fp16 and secret sauce.

www.neogaf.com

windows central leak (or was it thurrot.com?) said it was 2.5gbps. they also leaked the 12 tflops number which was later confirmed by phil himself.

If it's the E19 then it's 3.6gbps. Those are just the specs of the controller.

 

[McHuj]

I don't know if Phison will or will not supply Playstation.

However, statements about customers or future customers have to be very carefully worded usually for legal reasons due to investors and real money being involved. These things have really big implications for a companies stock price so they will likely stay quiet until the actual orders start and checks start coming in.

 

[ethomaz]

I don't know if Phison will or will not supply Playstation.

However, statements about customers or future customers have to be very carefully worded usually for legal reasons due to investors and real money being involved. These things have really big implications for a companies stock price so they will likely stay quiet until the actual orders start and checks start coming in.

But they confirmed to supplying MS and not Sony.
If that was the case they should say nothing about both.

IMO it is pretty clear to me:
- MS will use Phison SSD controller.
- Sony is using a custom SSD controller.

 

[Insane Metal]

DRAM-less NVMe drive? Wouldn't that mean that once the buffer is gone the SSD speed will drop off a cliff?

 

[Proelite]

DRAM-less NVMe drive? Wouldn't that mean that once the buffer is gone the SSD speed will drop off a cliff?

Uses part of the GDDR6 pool as dram cache.

 

[McHuj]

But they confirmed to supplying MS and not Sony.

Where I must have missed that?

 

[ethomaz]

Where I must have missed that?

They were asked about both consoles... they only denied Sony PS5.
Plus you have a lot of reports about MS using their controller.
The own job page shows they are using SSD controller on Scarlett.

 

[DJ12]

I couldn't find the specs for e-19. It's a cheaper part than e-16 for sure.

PHISON Electronics Corp. - PS5019-E19T

www.phison.com

Real world performance could tie in with the windows central leak, 2.5 depends how they test it I guess.

 

[McHuj]

They were asked about both consoles... they only denied Sony PS5.
Plus you have a lot of reports about MS using their controller.
The own job page shows they are using SSD controller on Scarlett.

I understand that. I was looking for a quote from Phison that they stated that they are supplying Xbox with their controller. I don't doubt that they are based on the leaks from sources.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

What’s the current popular theory on the PS5 SSD speed?

 

[saintjules]

Slightly off-topic, but I'd want this Guy to talk about next-gen info the same way he talks about the Galaxy S20 leaks

 

[DJ12]

But they confirmed to supplying MS and not Sony.
If that was the case they should say nothing about both.

IMO it is pretty clear to me:
- MS will use Phison SSD controller.
- Sony is using a custom SSD controller.

 

[demigod]

Unrelated but will also be shown, just remove one of the numbers.

So the game that you were hinting that's been shown off already that everyone thought would be multiplat is now Xbox Exclusive Dying Light 2? So MS bought Techland for sure?

 

[Bryank75]

OsirisBlack getting us those leaks!

 

[Insane Metal]

What’s the current popular theory on the PS5 SSD speed?

4-5GB/s.