Mriverz
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11x1.2=13.2tf o_o
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I dont see the problem with it, you can find 5700xt benchmark videos everywhere that show it running at 1900-2000mhz so if this is refined version of that a rdna+ if you will I think it will be possible.
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DavidMarques
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I'm Brazilian, that's why I said I trust the "infinite combo". Follow a few years or site editor on YouTube, and I don't think you have any reason to create this.
Second, a Sony must hold an event called PlayStation Meeting (as in 2013) that must take place after February 15th. According to its source (undisclosed), Sony never planned this event for the first half of February, as there will be this presentation period for investors. In addition, pre-sales are expected to start in March, with Sony estimating 2-3 million sales this year.
I know that the information on the combo is endless, but I honestly don't believe that this could cause this false news.
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trancefreak64
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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TBF I think Jason's "above 10.7" was in reference to Stadia which uses GCN GPU. If people are questioning Phil's "2x power of the X" to mean a straight 12TF (a bit hard for me to do with an APU as big as that one's been estimated but whatever), I think it's fair to question if Jason meant they were above 10.7 in pure terms or if they were performing higher than Stadia's GCN 10.7 (9-10TF RDNA/RDNA2 GPUs would handily outperform 10.7 GCN Stadia).
...Dunno, I'm bored. Friday night, no announcements, no news. These streets are getting desperate now. Another week like this and I think a lotta people'll be looking like
Roronoa Zoro
Gold Member
I'm gonna buy a PlayStation because of exclusives and even if it's more powerful I'm gonna say that won't matter. Is it a big leap from last gen? Is it a good value? Those are the questions I care about
bitbydeath
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TBF I think Jason's "above 10.7" was in reference to Stadia which uses GCN GPU. If people are questioning Phil's "2x power of the X" to mean a straight 12TF (a bit hard for me to do with an APU as big as that one's been estimated but whatever), I think it's fair to question if Jason meant they were above 10.7 in pure terms or if they were performing higher than Stadia's GCN 10.7 (9-10TF RDNA/RDNA2 GPUs would handily outperform 10.7 GCN Stadia).
...Dunno, I'm bored. Friday night, no announcements, no news. These streets are getting desperate now. Another week like this and I think a lotta people'll be looking like
The above 2080 comment was said in January, the stronger than Stadia comment must be close to a year old.
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Gold? I'm sorry but I don't think he knows. If Matt knew, he's a well known figure in the public eye and Sony or MS for that matter, would go after learning who his sources are for they'd be breaking their NDA. They'd definitely investigate it.
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bitbydeath
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BGs
made the news.
PlayStation 5 Still Offering Best Performance Over Xbox Series X in January, but Differences Will be Minimal at Launch; PSVR 2 Teased to be Surprising - Rumor
According to rumors, the PlayStation 5 is still ahead in terms of performance, but the difference with the Xbox Series X will be very small
LED Guy?
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2000 MHz? No way you'll getting that in a console, It's why Microsoft has built a huge chip and have designed a console looking like a PC tower for the 1st time ever for a console, I expect Sony to do the same and have a huge chip just like Microsoft.
Neo Blaster
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GAF > Internet > GAF, it's inevitable.
PlayStation 5 Still Offering Best Performance Over Xbox Series X in January, but Differences Will be Minimal at Launch; PSVR 2 Teased to be Surprising - Rumor
According to rumors, the PlayStation 5 is still ahead in terms of performance, but the difference with the Xbox Series X will be very smallwccftech.com
LED Guy?
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Matt and Kleegamefan both have seen the GitHub leak with us and they denied it, actual insiders with credible sources verified by ResetEra, THEY have the information and they have seen both, what they have from their trusted developer sources and what that GitHub leak suggests, and guess what, they both DENIED IT!
They have the upper hand in saying if those leaks are TRUE or NOT, and Richard Leadbetter from Digital Foundry has also stated that 'it lacks context'.
Jason Schreier as well has been pretty sure from what he heard that both consoles are gonna be 'more powerful than the Nvidia RTX 2080 graphics card'.....many other developers have stated that the consoles are basically like twins, they are neck-to-neck.
IF the GitHub Oberon leak is TRUE for PlayStation 5, then the console wouldn't even clock at 2000 MHz to even begin with, it would be 8 to 8.5 TF, not 9.2 as 2000 MHz is too much for a console and it would not work, that is a fact.
Well, if the PS5 is 8 TF or around it then you'll see many reports stating that it is way weaker than Xbox Series X, but lo and behold, at E3 2019, many developers are saying that the PlayStation 5 is more powerful than the Xbox Series X and TO ADD MORE FUEL TO THE FIRE, Arthur Gies from Polygon stated that the 12 TF for Xbox Series X was discussed and was known by developers at that time, so how is in that time, the PS5 is stronger? So PS5 must be stronger than 12 TF, and keep in mind, even in that time, both console manufacturers are pretty locked in with their main chips.
And all of what I have said COMPLETELY LINES UP WITH EVERY SINGLE THING KLEEGAMEFAN HAVE SAID. There is no 2 ways around it.
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Fake
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The door is open if you don't like the conversation. Nobody is forcing you to stay.Crap, here we go again, another month of
Sony fanboys: GitHub leaks mean nothing!!
MS fanboys: GitHub leaks are gospel!!
and more insider BS. Thank you Sony for not doing the same things.
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Neo Blaster
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Relaxa, cara, é só frustração, amanhã eu volto à rotina normal daqui.
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Rightisright
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Whats the definition of close? 20%? 10%?
You could say the PS4 and xbone were close.
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James Sawyer Ford
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nah, his statements are somewhat minor enough and never specific enough to warrant a leak.
saying the guthub leak means nothing is a lot different than saying PS5 has 12.6 TF with 18GB RAM and SSD thats 2x XSX
Jason Schreir leaks more things on a bigger scale and never gets in any trouble
every statement Matt has said for previous leaks has been accurate
44alltheway
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I'm pretty sure Shreier said he was going to write an article about PlayStation's launch line up at some point in time. I hope that's coming up soon!
Samanosuke Akechi
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Fake. The PlayStation theatre permanently closed its doors on December 31st.
Samanosuke Akechi
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Didnt OsirisBlack recently say “fortnite “? As in possibly two weeks from that post we’d see something? Two weeks from that post will be Tuesday.
If nothing happens Tuesday, that pretty much tells me all I need to know about these alleged insiders*.
OrionNebula
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Are you sure it’s fake, though?
The account does read PlaystaTON, after all. That looks pretty legit to me
Reindeer
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Was this posted?
wccftech.com
PlayStation 5 Still Offering Best Performance Over Xbox Series X in January, but Differences Will be Minimal at Launch; PSVR 2 Teased to be Surprising - Rumor
According to rumors, the PlayStation 5 is still ahead in terms of performance, but the difference with the Xbox Series X will be very small
wccftech.com
Gamernyc78
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JLMC469
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Was this posted?
PlayStation 5 Still Offering Best Performance Over Xbox Series X in January, but Differences Will be Minimal at Launch; PSVR 2 Teased to be Surprising - Rumor
According to rumors, the PlayStation 5 is still ahead in terms of performance, but the difference with the Xbox Series X will be very small
yes
Matt said if he “had to make an educated guess, he would guess MS has the more powerful console” (which makes sense in the grand scheme of things and how loaded with $$ MS is), he made it clear it was just a guess. With stuff that he knows for sure then he says it definitively, such as “PS5 also has hardware raytracing” when people were still doubting that and before Cerny confirmed it.
JLB
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im argentinian, i know infinite combo, and theres nothing that makes it particularly a trustworthy source. Probably they are playing the click game with the topic, which is damn hot.
bitbydeath
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A look at how cross-gen/ports may work.
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Bogroll
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So they're referencing this site for there source and people know jack shit here just riddles and guestimates that most of us would have come up with based around the 5700xt or a TF or 2 higher. lol
PlayStation 5 Still Offering Best Performance Over Xbox Series X in January, but Differences Will be Minimal at Launch; PSVR 2 Teased to be Surprising - Rumor
According to rumors, the PlayStation 5 is still ahead in terms of performance, but the difference with the Xbox Series X will be very small
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bitbydeath
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BGs is a verified developer who has access to both devkits.
Bogroll
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I think most of us would be surprised is one was more significantly powerful than the other unless MS was willing to eat up the costs. MS will not want to launch more expensive than PS5 imo.
Reindeer
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Retailer Lists The Last of Us Part 2 For PC | SegmentNext
A retailer set up the Last of Us Part 2 for a Steam release on his website. There is no official confirmation and it seems be an advertising ploy.
segmentnext.com
SenjutsuSage
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Klee is full of shit. I know it. You know it. To see people quoting him as a legitimate source after the guy bizarrely claimed he had full specs for both and then disappear for an extended ass time right after dropping such a remark is absolutely laughable. He saw people beginning to question and doubt what he's been saying and reacted desperately to squelch it, but had no immediate followup to his boast. There's a reason he asked to be banned. He knows he doesn't know anything, and is not confident about any of what he has said. If you know what you've been saying is true, you stand confidently and take the lumps when they come. You don't bail out.
I can't see a single instance where he was right about anything that anybody who pays attention couldn't have similarly said with zero knowledge. You think next gen consoles, much less the next xbox console, having VRS is a legit leak by him when that was common sense based on the fact that Microsoft owns the damn patent and it's apart of DirectX? Why exactly wouldn't a next gen xbox console support that? He had no damn idea xbox series x was 12 teraflops or anywhere near it until the VGA reveal, and once that information was out in the wild, you could see him in real time desperately make attempts to shift or twist the narrative to fit with what he's been telling people all along.
It was easy to say that the PS5 was this much more powerful when he believed that Xbox Series X wasn't packing a GPU that is likely 12 teraflops of compute power. Once he did learn as much, a significant degree of his confidence was suddenly stripped away and he began to ever so slightly backpedal while occasionally still trying to showcase some false bravado to make people think that he's still as confident with what he was saying prior to the VGA reveal. Suddenly it became nonsense about how things may have changed etc. If you have a legitimate source that you are corresponding with on a regular basis, no, after a certain point in time, nothing can change, nothing as significant as an entire redesign of the chip that will materially alter its range of compute power. He has always been unable to fully commit. Why? He knows jack.
If you can't smell the bullshit from a mile away with that guy, I don't know what to tell you. This doesn't have to mean the AMD github leak is 100% accurate, no, not at all. In fact, I'd very much love a more powerful PS5 than what seems implied, but if we do get one there's no fucking way I'm crediting a guy so obviously full of shit like he was "right all along" when he quite clearly hasn't been. I've even seen others cite matt. May I again laugh at that one? The man couldn't explicitly say that the amd github leak was false. He made one cryptic statement about it not meaning anything, and when someone automatically assumed that this meant one thing or another regarding ps5 vs xbox series x, he too quickly backpedaled and said that he wasn't implying what they think. Meaning, he, too, can't even fully commit to it not being accurate once people began ascribing meaning to his remark about the amd github leak. So why even make the remark he made at all? He didn't like the implications and made a desperate reach to discredit it, but the moment someone suggested he was doing precisely that, he backed away from it some. One foot in, one foot out. All "insiders" so far have been wrong. Some were even leaning towards these consoles being in the upper single digits until it looked like one may end up in the 12TF range. I'd want a PS5 in that range to or better. May not seem that way to some just because I prefer xbox as my primary gaming platform, but I support all platforms. Playstation, PC, Switch, Xbox. I actively game on them all depending on what I feel like playing. I love my xbox, but when I wanted to play control, I did that on my 2070 enabled gaming laptop through my HDTV because I wanted to experience the ray traced version, something I couldn't get on any of the consoles.
Soadi
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Wasn't this guy already confirmed fake by someone?A look at how cross-gen/ports may work.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Where was he verified?
bitbydeath
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I think Jason laughed him off. But go have a look at all the detail he put in to his responses. Jason may have jumped the gun.
bitbydeath
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Both here and ResetEra
BGs
Industry Professional
They already make news of everything.
PlayStation 5 Still Offering Best Performance Over Xbox Series X in January, but Differences Will be Minimal at Launch; PSVR 2 Teased to be Surprising - Rumor
According to rumors, the PlayStation 5 is still ahead in terms of performance, but the difference with the Xbox Series X will be very small
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
The thing is, several insiders have been verified and have been confirmed to have such information.
This doesn't mean they're all inaccurate most of us can't say they're "fake" based on this fact alone.
With that being said, this is what's likely going to happen.
1. If PlayStation 5 turns out to be 9.2TF, you're going to have many people on here and Twitter saying, "I told you so!" People will disappear since the leaks have been confirmed. Not only that, many "insiders" will lose credibility going forward.
2. Those who put faith in the github leaks and are giving Xbox Series X the power crown are going to disappear and the insider's information will prove to be accurate (at least for the most part). There's people here who think it's going to be 9.2TF who are going to disappear because they have spent weeks calling all these insiders fake.
Let's not pretend that there's people who will try to discredit "insiders" that don't fit their narrative, and it always seem to be those who are saying PS5 is going to be more powerful or close in power.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
I see he has been verified on Resetera. That place is a pile of $hit so I just don't go on there that much.
Shmunter
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Just a Q, I assume TF is just the raw compute power and doesn’t measure potential chip features such as RT?
Perhaps a lower TF GPU in certain specific scenarios e.g. RT could perform better than the higher TF GPU rendering the equivalent scene??
This could explain the disconnect between claims of less TF in regards to PS5 vs claims PS5 is performing faster Than XsX?? Can’t imagine it being down to the SSD in these early stages.
Perhaps a lower TF GPU in certain specific scenarios e.g. RT could perform better than the higher TF GPU rendering the equivalent scene??
This could explain the disconnect between claims of less TF in regards to PS5 vs claims PS5 is performing faster Than XsX?? Can’t imagine it being down to the SSD in these early stages.
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BGs
Industry Professional
In Resetera they have requested my ban. Surely kidding (or maybe not). In any case I have made a decision based on the latest events. My intention was not to be part of a story. Having seen it, the best thing will be to stop giving my opinion and dedicate myself only to reading until everything is official. If anyone has any professional questions send me a PM.
DavidMarques
Neo Member
I recently saw the YouTube video they made about this supposed leak, and there they explain that this is a reliable and verified source, which has already advanced Konami's game "Contra" to him at a time when no one was talking about this game. Also, they said that the event could be held on February 29, and that Sony could use the same strategy used by Nintendo in the 1990s, providing a limited amount of ps5 units to encourage initial sales.
I personally trust Combo Infinito, they are very popular, they don't need to create leaks.
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Agnostic2020
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Guys as a reminder about 9.2 tf vs 12 tf ,
if MS had almost 3 tf advantage on ps5 they would be shouting from the mountain they have the most powerful console ever built and bs like that as that’s how they roll.
every time (even yesterday in investor call) they referred to series x as “our most power console”
this to me means the gpu power is very close between them and any clock changes can change the outcome.
if MS had almost 3 tf advantage on ps5 they would be shouting from the mountain they have the most powerful console ever built and bs like that as that’s how they roll.
every time (even yesterday in investor call) they referred to series x as “our most power console”
this to me means the gpu power is very close between them and any clock changes can change the outcome.
Agnostic2020
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SenjutsuSage
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I get what you're saying. Each person will choose to believe whatever to fit with their narrative. Do I want Xbox Series X to be stronger? Yea, I'd say I do because it's my primary platform where I choose to game. Do I truly care if it is? Like really, actually care? Nah, not really. I would love PS5 to be 12TF or even stronger, up to the 13TF range if possible because it means better things for me the gamer. It makes my purchase that much more valuable in my eyes. My reason for wanting xbox series x to be stronger is solely for the basis that I think the games media won't really give xbox's best efforts a fair shake where they will be judged on the merits of what it's offering if the same nonsense over resolution and how it's inferior to this or that persists into next gen. When you're perceived as the weaker box there's a certain stigma that comes with xbox that doesn't affect Nintendo or Sony in the same fashion.
And this isn't to say that xbox as a platform doesn't deserve legit criticism for what it didn't get right during xbox one gen. The AAA games outside of the usual suspects just up and vanished. Things I was looking forward to at one point ended up looking disappointing till they just got canceled altogether (scalebound) Games I loved and enjoyed thoroughly and that I felt was one of the better experiences I had all gen never got sequels (Quantum Break) Games I felt had a lot of potential if given a second go, but were never given that chance (ryse) just went poof. Games from studios that to me were exactly the style of games xbox needed to be making and supporting more of, just went ignored. (sunset overdrive) Games responsible for bringing me to the xbox platform in the first place (blue dragon and Lost odyssey) that mentality appeared lost in the xbox one plan altogether. Games that always looked bad to me and that I had very little faith in released and proved to be just that (Crackdown 3).
So Xbox doesn't exactly get a pass from me even though it's where I choose to game. I want a competitive game industry. I don't want to see xbox crushed or sony crushed or anything like that. I want both to land haymakers and bring the best. Right now we know so little about the games, so all we have to talk about is how the specs are looking, and I want a monstrous ps5 as much as the next gamer. People being able to brag if the github info is 100% accurate doesn't help me who will also own a PS5. I have no doubt it would still kick ass as a system, but it ain't official yet so I'm hoping for something much better than that until we do have something official.
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