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PS5 specs revealed. Up to 10.2 Tflops.
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darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
Let's say for the next three to four years, when the midgen refreshes appear. Nodes will be 3nm by then, meaning easily twice+ as powerful consoles as Xbox Series X.
BigLee74
Member
No man, these are RDNA floppies. And with a much improved CPU, more and faster memory, the difference in power must surely be knocking on the door of a whole PS4 Pro. Now that is significant!
I was 90% sure I was getting an Xbox again before this, 100% now!
Deeper Underground
Member
lol This is sad as shit. I’m glad I’m not such an asspained fanboy like this.
Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule
Member
#mostexcitinghardwareofthelast20years
Voost Kain
Banned
Xbox is basically a Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Rose, Vs. a PIccolo/Kami fusion.
Self High Five
Member
WTF? I had to google this to see if this was true.
They capped themselves at 36CU and still can't deliver FULL backwards compatibility day one?
Pathetic. If MS delivered this they would be trolled to high heaven.
EDIT: Top 100 will only apply to 'boost' mode. Everything else will run in 'legacy' mode with no improvements. Still not good but not a disaster. #lowexpectations
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Leonidas
Member
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jakinov
Member
Most people probably not going to see the difference between a XSX and PS5 game unless u put it side by side. For most people everything will just look good. Higher resolutions and stabler framerates can also come from developers, having a bit extra power means you can worry about optimizing slightly less. Someone used an extreme example of 1 vs 2 seconds load times but it can be 4 vs 8 or 10 vs 20. Users are impatient and if it's games where they keep dying or need to fast travel a lot, they can get overly frustrated with load time. Then there's the times when you aren't in a loading screen, when you are streaming data, when you are going super fast in some video game city, and your console is able to pull in a significant amount of data very fast and the game is able to dynamically show you more things around the city at full details right away giving a better more immersive experience. When your character turns around and you can load it completely different assets. Loading ~9GB of new data within a second or ~5.5GB/s in a split second can allow developers to dynamically change what shows up on your screen without any visual hiccups. Also, in general the more negligible you can make the loading times, the more time game developers can spend on the main game instead of working on obscure in-game loading screens (e.g. elevators). Then there's all the benefits at the system level that may make the PS5 a slightly better user experience for download/installs/patching. A bit more raw theoretical performance is great and all, but developers probably aren't itcing for that extra bit of compute; and reducing the latency and effectively further blurring the line between memory and long-term persistent storage would give the developers more power in what they want to do creatively opposed to achieving arbitrary technical measurements like resolution, resolution, or process extra details that most people wouldn't notice. The one X has 2 extra tereflops than a PS4 Pro. Is it a night and day difference? No. They both look really good but the Xbox One X looks better but again most people probably wouldn't notice unless you put it side by side.
Fulcizombie
Banned
The worst thing about all this is the variable clock speeds. Has this ever been attempted on a console before ? The system seems such a mess, If MS had made such a presentation all hell would have broken loose and they would have been laughed out of the Internet.
Jtibh
Banned
I am happy with what i saw.
I am not happy with all these bullshit threads popping up that scream xbox wins console war and sony is dead.
We have a very powerfull xbox and a fucking fast ps5.
Both will deliver mind blowing graphics and never seen experiences.
Both have a different approach and both will be fucking awesome.
Both invest heavily in first parties and both will have their own reason to buy them.
I only want to see positive threads and i want to see all these cock wanking threads closed.
2 good days in a row to take our minds off this shit of a virus and you guys have to fight.
Soo fuckin sad.
I am not happy with all these bullshit threads popping up that scream xbox wins console war and sony is dead.
We have a very powerfull xbox and a fucking fast ps5.
Both will deliver mind blowing graphics and never seen experiences.
Both have a different approach and both will be fucking awesome.
Both invest heavily in first parties and both will have their own reason to buy them.
I only want to see positive threads and i want to see all these cock wanking threads closed.
2 good days in a row to take our minds off this shit of a virus and you guys have to fight.
Soo fuckin sad.
tflopsmatter
Banned
It is totally BS. The console is really 9.2TF and only if it's overclocked can it reach 10.3. Sony only clocked it so high so they can claim it is over 10TF.
Sony launched a far weaker console than the XBox. That's the truth.
JareBear: Remastered
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a 30ish percent difference in power will be noticable
I’m tired of the “side by side” talk
93xfan
Banned
No. 12.155TF. You’re a few GameCubes short.
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Last gen it was 45% L for MSFT. And no. Multiplatforms not looked significantly worse.
It won't be that much difference.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
It was assumed it would go for $499 when it had an expected 400+ mm^2 APU. It does in fact only have a 360 mm^2 APU, making it substantially cheaper (10 %) than previously estimated. And then there is the SSD. By going for a standard NVMe SSD they have certainly lower cost than Sony there. With everything else being pretty much the same, I can absolutely see Microsoft have a $430 BOM and selling the console at $399. Letting Game Pass subscriptions do their work.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
it wasn't a conference to show games, the games will come though and am sure they will look great
megreotsugua
Banned
Sony is targeting $399 with little loss I feel.
10.3TF @ 2ghz is not bad.
Games defined Playstation. Not teraflops.
DunDunDunpachi
Patient MembeR
No you should apologize for doubting gitHub prophets.
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
At least Sony learned their lesson with proprietary memory. Using OTF parts shared with the PC market drives up volume and competition and drives prices down. Sure Sony doesn't get a cut, but it is good for us the consumer.
Dory16
Banned
Is that what the competition has come to lol?
FearlessBelgian
Member
499.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
joke post surely?
Stuart360
Member
I doubt we are going to get mid gen consoles, well not for a good 3 or 4 years. I cant really see 24tf machines coming any time soon so it would be pointless.
tflopsmatter
Banned
There's nothing positive about Sony's presentation. They presented a weak console that's not a true generational leap. The GPU has only 9.2TF (the whole thing about 10.3TF is a fib), the CPU doesn't have 16 threads, it has less bandwidth, etc. I wish there was one thing about the PS5 that could get me excited but there isn't. The faster SSD doesn't matter because I don't care if a game loads one second faster.
GymWolf
Member
i already imagine the discussion between internal parts inside ps5 during heavy games:
gpu: hey little ryzen can i borrow some power to mantain 4k resolution?
cpu: no chance sister, can't you see how much physics on screen we have on this scene? ask to ssd if he can help.
ssd: sorry breh, i'm only here for loading times
Dynamic resolution enter the chat: what if i told you that there is a solution to this?
(bare with me guys, i'm at home with this fucking lockdown bored to tears and pissed off, i need some liberatory trolling)
gpu: hey little ryzen can i borrow some power to mantain 4k resolution?
cpu: no chance sister, can't you see how much physics on screen we have on this scene? ask to ssd if he can help.
ssd: sorry breh, i'm only here for loading times
Dynamic resolution enter the chat: what if i told you that there is a solution to this?
(bare with me guys, i'm at home with this fucking lockdown bored to tears and pissed off, i need some liberatory trolling)
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Tons of PS are sold in countries where people don't have as much money, so a more budget friendly system works wonders for sales. They tried PS3 at $600 and look how that turned out. Sales were lousy until they did Slim for $300 and sales shut through the roof years later.
Branding is important, but so is price.
A guy driving an Audi probably doesn't care if his A5 goes up $5000. But a console going up $100+ is a big deal.
Jimmyisback
Banned
2.33 is bullshit. Are they gonna pack earmuffs with all Ps5. System is gonna be loud and hot as fuck.
Psykodad
Banned
For sure, but this is gonna be a PR nightmare for a while.
nemiroff
Gold Member
That's just not true. This PS5 TV stand accessory will almost guarantee a stable boost:
FearlessBelgian
Member
Not sure... Instant loading>more power for 2 prettier differences...
SaltyMcSalt
Banned
If tis here is correct it shouldn't be that loud:
HaveButOneLife
Banned
Potential affordability, my bad.We don't know if it will be affordable, it can even cost close to XSX to manufacture given that they are packing in some crazy fast SSD in there, plus cooling for that crazy clocked GPU monstrosity will be complicated. They just fucked up the DESIGN, they use some clock gymnastics to reach that "10TF" speed and devs will have to be careful with their code to accidentally not downclock the console. This is fucking comedyWhile all you had to do is to take bigger solicon and put some reasonable clocks in it like MS.
If devs focus power diifference in resolution then with some DLSS like techniques differences could be hard to spot BUT if they focus on performance (and leave resolution the same or close to) every game will have better framerate (and with VRR that could make big difference in games running between 30 and 60).
So we should expect Knack 2 to be amazing? I mean he was talking about the lord an savior hardware wizard: Mark Cerny
Jokes aside, Mark became a meme after killing it with the PS4 architecture. I'm wondering where he's going to stand now that MS engineers killed it. It's fair to talk about the hardware right now, no need to pivot and talk about games, we know the PS5 will have a great line-up, but so will XSX with its 16 1st party studios and possibly the best version for all multiplatform games.
We don't know if Microsoft's games will be good or not. I'm hoping that's the case, either way I'm not going to damage control this as it's not that big of a deal. Better multiplatform games (even potential frame rate differences i.e. 60 vs 90-120 FPS?) is a good thing.
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Radical Dreamer
Member
Yamaha xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
phil_t98
#SonyToo
its a bit of a fuck up really. overconfidence?
tflopsmatter
Banned
Teraflops are how you measure generational leaps. Every single generation of consoles has had a massive improvement in efficiency. This means the only way to determine if a new console is a generational leap is if the TF rating is at least seven times higher than the previous one. The PS5 doesn't even come close. Teraflops is the most important factor in measuring the power of any system.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
The only good thing about that presentation is (and I'm not making fun), is if PS5 is that great at audio and a gamer out there has a great sound system and headphones.
I don't, so I don't care.
But for audiophiles who have great ears and gears, PS5 audio capabilities seem great according to Cerny.
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JareBear: Remastered
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you can slice it anyway you want, it’s around a 30 percent power difference
TTOOLL
Member
Did you watch the presentation?
KlickKlack
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