Mossybrew
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Like anyone's going to take dumbass troll hottakes like this seriously?
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TLOU2 Haters and Detractors are review-bombing Metacritic. The Salt rises!
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Like anyone's going to take dumbass troll hottakes like this seriously?
B-universe
Banned
And declaring them "far right" is nothing but you involuntarily betraying what your politics are.
All you have to do is go on YouTube. Only reason why I'm not posting videos is because some of it might contain spoilers.
You're telling me the user reviews are more reliable than people who actually played the game. Why should I take people seriously who thinks like this?
Isn't it just majestic how all the people who didn't play the game but nonetheless reviewed it gave it a 0/10? Isn't it? Life is simple because all the people who rated it a 10/10, including thousands who gave it 5 stars ahead of official release, have had their purchase certified by DForce.
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samporter
Banned
Quartering, Geeks and Gamers etc. are doing it. All you have to do is go on YouTube. Only reason why I'm not posting videos is because some of it might contain spoilers.
You're telling me the user reviews are more reliable than people who actually played the game. Why should I take people seriously who thinks like this?
The whole game's story, and even its controversial parts and ending, have been on youtube for awhile now. I don't think people to need guess about anything with the story since the whole story is available for all to see and judge. The game journalists who played it overhyped and overinflated the score. This game will not be remembered well by ordinary gamers, especially with the theme/direction/politics involved. The game itself has probably alienated half the gaming audience, so I don't see it being popular or fondly remembered 1 year from now.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
And if all these user reviews done today were the reverse, with tons of 5 stars leading to a user score avg of 9.4/10, not one LoU defender would complain saying the scores are skewed stupid since there's no way all these people should do that when they haven't even played it, never mind finish it.
Funny how that works.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
I don't lean left or right. I know which political affiliation a lot of these YouTubers follow because I enjoyed watching some of their content before until about a year ago.
If someone consistently complains about wokeness in movies, then it's clear which side of the political fence they stand on.
I also was there was the games started leaking, and there was only one detail of the game in which they accused ND of wanting to push a political agenda.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
The whole story wasn't leaked when this game started receiving backlash. It started because of one plot point. They claimed it was happening because of identify politics.
That's your belief they overhyped the story, but you take people who haven't played the game as being more reliable.
I've seen people talk about certain plot points that didn't make sense in this game when it's obvious they haven't played the first game.
#Phonepunk#
Banned
It’s funny by clinging to this “alt right trolls and bigots hate it” narrative you are actually erasing the trans and queer voices who have genuine criticism about how a white hetero man wrote their representative characters
Like lol the more people talk about the alt right the more they are silencing genuine critical trans and queer voices
Plus you know, regular everyday people. they do exist and play the game and have thoughts of their own.
Like lol the more people talk about the alt right the more they are silencing genuine critical trans and queer voices
Plus you know, regular everyday people. they do exist and play the game and have thoughts of their own.
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Reminder not to post spoilers in here or any thread outside of the spoiler thread.
Have a little bit of decency and tact no matter how you feel about the game, thank you.
Have a little bit of decency and tact no matter how you feel about the game, thank you.
Umbral
Member
You don’t know that some of them haven’t.
It was also possible to review the game on PSN before it was available to play.
down 2 orth
Member
Lol, for a second there I thought OP was talking about game journalists spamming out those 10s.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
If they're not review bombing on PSN then it's obvious: They don't have the game.
Eevee86
Member
I had a good laugh when I watched all the spoilers. It's not surprising it would piss off a lot of people.
Why do they need the game when we've been able to watch it all week?
The reason I oppose SJWs is because I despise censorship and I feel we get the best art when an artist follow their vision. SJWs want art to follow their own version of the Hays code but now the alt right wants to impose their version as well where anything remotely progressive is woke or has an agenda. Why not just let people make what they want and you can like it or not?
Phunkydiabetic
Banned
The triggering continues as TLOU2 releases today. A mob of children have taken their anger and moral purity to Metacritic to make sure TLOU2 is made an example of. As we watch the salt pour from every single keystroke we're reminded of the fragility of their egos. Snowflaking has never been this good. Here is to enjoying the tears when the reviews eventually get taken down.
The prophet has foreseen it.
The meticulous planning.
"To make our voice heard"
Fucks sake the cringe. This has to be the most limp dicked crusade ever. The game is gonna sell like gangbusters and millions will be enjoying themselves while these muppets sit in their echo chambers.
Umbral
Member
You don’t know that they’re not review bombing on PSN. There very well may be people giving it 1-3 stars on PSN.
The game received tons of 5 star reviews before release though, so they aren’t as visible.
itsjustJEFF
Member
What a bunch of cry babies. A bunch of man-children. I'm so glad I don't personally know anyone this petty and sensitive.
If you've played the game and don't like it, that's completely fine. But hating it before playing it and going out of your way to rain on other peoples good times is just shitty. Like after doing that, do you feel better? Like what kind of satisfaction do you get from doing that? Eww it's so shitty.
If you've played the game and don't like it, that's completely fine. But hating it before playing it and going out of your way to rain on other peoples good times is just shitty. Like after doing that, do you feel better? Like what kind of satisfaction do you get from doing that? Eww it's so shitty.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
They watched 30 hours? So you admit that it's very likely they didn't play the game? Got it.
Because the rating would be a lot lower.
Umbral
Member
The problem is you cannot entirely discern who has played it and who hasn’t. At this point, you also do not need to play the game yourself to form an opinion on it as there are a lot of full playthroughs available on Twitch and YouTube to watch.
sjw will lose, reproducing.
who will win is Incel who do not reproduce and go into extinction.
To be honest it has a low rating on Google and also not liked on the youtube comments, a lot just don't enjoy the story, everyone has a opinion.
Barnabot
Member
it can be completed within 15-20 hours, can't show you the receipts 'cause you know...
itsjustJEFF
Member
You can't discern who has played it or not. At this point, gamers in general get lumped into that group now. To your 2nd point, that's true and a very valid point, but this hate was happening even before the game was released. They've already made up their mind. They went online and read the script and hated it. Let me ask you this, what popular video game script can you read that without playing it is good? I bet if you read most of the video games scripts of some of the most popular games in the past 10-15 years you'd think they were crap. I play games not scripts.
People are so easily influenced by a tidal wave of thought. Just like how, I think, sometimes reviews get influenced by the tidal wave of 10's being given and they just give a 10 as well. I stick by what I said in another thread, I some times hate people who play video games. I sweat we sometimes act like a bunch of spoiled children.
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DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
I know it can, but you actually believe they watched everything outside of the leaked cutscenes. Even before this, not all of the cutscenes were leaked.
Umbral
Member
My second point still stands in part because we had a full 90 minutes leak back in April and small leaks until the most recent big ones. I’ve been following it since the first leak.
Narratives in video games are generally poor and are there as a vehicle for the gameplay, if they exist at all. I imagine if I sought out video game scripts to read that I would find most of them to be pretty bad. Bayonetta had a story but I couldn’t tell you anything about it because the gamplay was so good and that’s what it focused on.
The inversion, which I believe The Last of Us to be part of, is narrative focus with gameplay to get you between story beats. When your focus is narrative it will be more scrutinized, often by people with a mind for it. I’m a fan of games and story. I go to film and TV for stories and I go to games for gameplay. That’s not to say games like Naughty Dog make should not exist. They absolutely should.
I am tired of the wild mudslinging that‘s been so prominent since the early 2010’s. I’ve taken part at times, so I can’t fault people too much but we can do better.
Barnabot
Member
it's presentation of a product. those leaked cutscenes showed exactly what i didn't want in that game, but again, i can't say it without spoiling the game.
Eevee86
Member
Why do they need to watch everything when it's obviously the cutscenes that are pissing them off?
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Many people made up their mind with only a few leaked cutscenes. That's totally different than playing the game in full. This means they were upset with a few plot choices.
itsjustJEFF
Member
I actually don't care about the game, it's scores and all that shit. It's the shitty behavior. We can do better, but it's not likely. The shitty ones are always the most vocal and shitty behavior stands out more.
leo-j
Member
well when the game destroys sales records ya’ll can go hide in ya’ll man caves where ur homophobia will be accepted..If you ask what are xboys doing right now after NoSmArTDeLiVeRy was debunked.
itsjustJEFF
Member
It's cause they're looking for something to be mad about. If it wasn't this it would have been something else.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
And looking at the 10/10 gamers, pretty skewed too.If you ask what are xboys doing right now after NoSmArTDeLiVeRy was debunked.
Almost all of them in the first 20 I skimmed have one game reviewed. LoU2 10/10 and that's it.
LittleBigGamer
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ManaByte
Gold Member
They must have awesome parents to allow a man cave in their basement.
Barnabot
Member
So you' r at it again, now in this thread. He is Jewish, not a white guy.
Musky_Cheese
Banned
Reading through all this. It’s interesting what “review bombing” and overall actions are perceived based on the politics of the individual posting. It’s only review bombing and trolling when it doesn’t meet your opinion.
Was it only review bombing for Ion Fury after the devs gave an apology for Fag Bag? How did you scare them to apologize again?
Was this review bombing or can professional shit heads not be labeled as butt hurt trolls?
I have a hard time believing that most want this stuff to end, for everyone to grow up. I think most likely people just want it to stop for the things they like only.
Was it only review bombing for Ion Fury after the devs gave an apology for Fag Bag? How did you scare them to apologize again?
Was this review bombing or can professional shit heads not be labeled as butt hurt trolls?
I have a hard time believing that most want this stuff to end, for everyone to grow up. I think most likely people just want it to stop for the things they like only.
Stuart360
Member
Movie and tv critics are notoriously dissconected from the general public to be fair. Games critics are def heading in the same direction imo.Reading through all this. It’s interesting what “review bombing” and overall actions are perceived based on the politics of the individual posting. It’s only review bombing and trolling when it doesn’t meet your opinion.
Was it only review bombing for Ion Fury after the devs gave an apology for Fag Bag? How did you scare them to apologize again?
Was this review bombing or can professional shit heads not be labeled as butt hurt trolls?
I have a hard time believing that most want this stuff to end, for everyone to grow up. I think most likely people just want it to stop for the things they like only.
Shinobitron
Member
It's his opinion and because you don't agree with him, he's a dumbass? How can we take you seriously when you can't take others seriously?......Imo it's not a good story at all. imo it's one of the biggest disappointments in triple a game history.
sobaka770
Banned
I love how all those "defenders of legitimate criticism" blatantly come out in this thread exposing their clear bias.
You may not like it as much as the first one, or not agree with some choices in the story but it is a better story than 99% of games out there. The only difference is that in this one there's a prominent lesbian character and no woman is half naked or sexualised in any way so if you ever find yourself saying things like "it took me out of the experience because a girl can't do that...", "two strong women characters banter is not appealing" then yeah, you're in dire need of reevaluiating your biases. And don't go around saying stupid things like "but what abour real people who hate the story, we need to look at the score seriously"! This is concern trollling of highest caliber. 99% percent of these "revews" have barely scribbled text to justify the score and came out before anyone could finish the game - this minority of botters and incels review-bombing and feeling so satisfied from "shoing it to those SJWs" requires pity (you just know it's true, right? you can see these poor people smiling seeling the score bombed) Pity is also required for those who deflect and pretend to be enlightened because they "are not sawyaed into liking the popular game" and millions of people are just sheep cause they are brainwashed by the media and are forced to play through SJW agenda and a bad story.
FYI, it's not that hard to see your shtick: see - you already hate Ellie/Abby/Dina looks and concept and you hate the lesbian story even before the start of the game. Alternatively you read the leaks about lesbian/transgender character and story beats that may or may not be true - oh no, this is too much, SJW agenda which assaults my masculinity! But you think you need to be smarter than that. So you start looking extra hard at every story beat to disagree with from a minor joke to a characterisation which you then interpret it the way that suits you to say that this totally pulled you out of the story and it sucks and therefore the game sucks but you're not a bigoted asshole. Or even less effort just say: wait until you hit unidentified part "sometime later" in the story to see how bad it is? Can't say which part cause spoilers! Saved, you fooled us all and saved us from this disaster which had 95% critic score! Only not really: it's just that transparent and sad.
If you wanna hate the game, this is pretty much judgment free area: just admit you only play as a woman to stare at her ass all the time or have her being saved or romanced in the way you want but woe be if she's slightly manly or capable! Have some balls to admit that this game bothers you because it doesn't allow you to go hetero or have a woman body-type that you prefer and then go back to something like CoD. Or maybe go stare at Chloe's ass in UC:LL while she kills and kicks ass of 100s of soldier-men while complaining about Nadine being too SJW for kicking Nate's ass. Admit that strong women bother you and you can't relate to their problems just like you couldn't in TLJ. (/yeah let's trigger TLJ haters as well, that'll be a nice combo)
You may not like it as much as the first one, or not agree with some choices in the story but it is a better story than 99% of games out there. The only difference is that in this one there's a prominent lesbian character and no woman is half naked or sexualised in any way so if you ever find yourself saying things like "it took me out of the experience because a girl can't do that...", "two strong women characters banter is not appealing" then yeah, you're in dire need of reevaluiating your biases. And don't go around saying stupid things like "but what abour real people who hate the story, we need to look at the score seriously"! This is concern trollling of highest caliber. 99% percent of these "revews" have barely scribbled text to justify the score and came out before anyone could finish the game - this minority of botters and incels review-bombing and feeling so satisfied from "shoing it to those SJWs" requires pity (you just know it's true, right? you can see these poor people smiling seeling the score bombed) Pity is also required for those who deflect and pretend to be enlightened because they "are not sawyaed into liking the popular game" and millions of people are just sheep cause they are brainwashed by the media and are forced to play through SJW agenda and a bad story.
FYI, it's not that hard to see your shtick: see - you already hate Ellie/Abby/Dina looks and concept and you hate the lesbian story even before the start of the game. Alternatively you read the leaks about lesbian/transgender character and story beats that may or may not be true - oh no, this is too much, SJW agenda which assaults my masculinity! But you think you need to be smarter than that. So you start looking extra hard at every story beat to disagree with from a minor joke to a characterisation which you then interpret it the way that suits you to say that this totally pulled you out of the story and it sucks and therefore the game sucks but you're not a bigoted asshole. Or even less effort just say: wait until you hit unidentified part "sometime later" in the story to see how bad it is? Can't say which part cause spoilers! Saved, you fooled us all and saved us from this disaster which had 95% critic score! Only not really: it's just that transparent and sad.
If you wanna hate the game, this is pretty much judgment free area: just admit you only play as a woman to stare at her ass all the time or have her being saved or romanced in the way you want but woe be if she's slightly manly or capable! Have some balls to admit that this game bothers you because it doesn't allow you to go hetero or have a woman body-type that you prefer and then go back to something like CoD. Or maybe go stare at Chloe's ass in UC:LL while she kills and kicks ass of 100s of soldier-men while complaining about Nadine being too SJW for kicking Nate's ass. Admit that strong women bother you and you can't relate to their problems just like you couldn't in TLJ. (/yeah let's trigger TLJ haters as well, that'll be a nice combo)
Explosive Zombie
Banned
Guys it's at 17000 scores in 24 hours of release it's going to nearly hit the amount of ratings both versions of the original last of us combined ever hit in 7 years please don't tell me you seriously believe what's happening here is legitimate
lastmessiah
Member
Here's a take from an actual games journalist:
lol at the brazen arrogance of those who would assert that anyone who is angry and upset with this game didn't actually play it. that line of defense isn't going to last long guys. this shit blizzard isn't letting up any time soon.
lol at the brazen arrogance of those who would assert that anyone who is angry and upset with this game didn't actually play it. that line of defense isn't going to last long guys. this shit blizzard isn't letting up any time soon.
chimpsteaks
Member
As a conservative this kind of shit pisses me off, because its like 2% of our base doing this review bombing and making us 98% look bad, and to the outsider that reaffirms to them whatever negative things people say about us about how we're all allegedly homophobes.
The game's really good and clearly closer to the 95 critic score than the 3.3 user score
The game's really good and clearly closer to the 95 critic score than the 3.3 user score
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Ellie has been known lesbian since the last game, and the preview video from 2 years ago showed her and Dina kissing at a slow dance.
There's more to people hating the story than Ellie being lesbian.
Stuart360
Member
Did you click on NeoGaf instead of ResetEra by mistake or something?.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
With friends like you who needs the irs?
RedVIper
Banned
Bitch I've never reviewed a game on PSN, I've never even read a review on PSN, does anyone use that shit?