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[MagnesG]

It only states they were going to FOB (Forward Operation Base) and location number 2. She's a medic and it doesn't say she was going there just to fight on the front lines. If they're going to make a frontal attack, then they're going to need as many medics are possible. Nora also says she's going to another hospital to bring over supplies. That's the same hospital where she encounters Ellie.

That's still doing "rotation" or patrol by definition, and small skirmishes are still combat not necessarily in the frontlines. Mel is not ready for anything in that capacity, even travelling doing outpost services. She was 8 months pregnant, any able-bodied person could easily slam her on the ground and she would been in critical, both her and her baby.

 

[DForce]

That's still doing "rotation" or patrol by definition, and small skirmishes are still combat not necessarily in the frontlines. Mel is not ready for anything in that capacity, even travelling doing outpost services. She was 8 months pregnant, any able-bodied person could easily slam her on the ground and she would been in critical, both her and her baby.

Rotation is just an assignment rotation and it's at the FOB. They never said she will be required to fight. A pregnant woman is capable of working in an infirmary. In real life, women do work as a nurse while pregnant. They may be limited on what they can do, but they're still capable of working while pregnant.

This is only a video game, and nothing in this shows bad writing. People are just desperate to use anything to attack this game.

 

[Methos#1975]

Rotation is just an assignment rotation and it's at the FOB. They never said she will be required to fight. A pregnant woman is capable of working in an infirmary. In real life, women do work as a nurse while pregnant. They may be limited on what they can do, but they're still capable of working while pregnant.

This is only a video game, and nothing in this shows bad writing. People are just desperate to use anything to attack this game.

It's also not really comparable to say the real life modern miltary. This is a fictional world where people with skills like hers are probably in short supply and her skills are more valuable to the WLF than her baby is and as such they are going to push her as far as they can to ensure their operational capabilities

 

[MagnesG]

OMG all of you guys minds are already set up on defending the everything about the game. It has no flaws basically in your mind and can be deflected with your logic. Everything is just perfect, because it's a video game right....

Typical fanboy pulling bullshit for their asses.

This assignment already REQUIRES them equipping themselves with weapons, which means they're already prepared for any combat. Mel herself said that she was bored lol, and she needs a breather after dealing with her shit BF's attitude - when she's pregnant. Abby even mentioned to her that she can request for others to do her work but she still refused and applied for it - like girl power kind of move (I can do what I want, even possibly harming my own child, my body). WLF in demand my ass. Such an irresponsible future mother she is.

If WLF is really in need of her skills why did she get pregnant in the first place? I'd like to know what kind of strawman being pulled out this time.
All the new characters are just shit in personality, well maybe except for Jesse.

 

[DForce]

OMG all of you guys minds are already set up on defending the everything about the game. It has no flaws basically in your mind and can be deflected with your logic. Everything is just perfect, because it's a video game right....

Typical fanboy pulling bullshit for their asses.

This assignment already REQUIRES them equipping themselves with weapons, which means they're already prepared for any combat. Mel herself said that she was bored lol, and she needs a breather after dealing with her shit BF's attitude - when she's pregnant. Abby even mentioned to her that she can request for others to do her work but she still refused and applied for it - like girl power kind of move (I can do what I want, even possibly harming my own child, my body). WLF in demand my ass. Such an irresponsible future mother she is.

If WLF is really in need of her skills why did she get pregnant in the first place? I'd like to know what kind of strawman being pulled out this time.
All the new characters are just shit in personality, well maybe except for Jesse.

Why do you keep responding when you're clearly wrong?

You were wrong about them going on patrol and now you're trying to latch on to something else. They're armed while traveling.


They were traveling to another location, that's it. She needed a breather because she didn't want to stay cooped up at her current location.

If you cannot provide one shred of evidence that says she was going to fighting battle and she was not traveling to go directly to the FOB then stop. You guys are trying too hard to find anything to criticize and it doesn't work. There's nothing fanboy about it, it's common sense and you're trying to inject things into the story line that aren't even there.

If you cannot find anything in the story that says she wasn't direct to stay stationed at the FOB, then give up, dude.

 

[Halo is Back]

From a GameSpot editor as well.

What a douche (GameSpot editor)

 

[MagnesG]

Why do you keep responding when you're clearly wrong?

You were wrong about them going on patrol and now you're trying to latch on to something else. They're armed while traveling.


They were traveling to another location, that's it. She needed a breather because she didn't want to stay cooped up at her current location.

If you cannot provide one shred of evidence that says she was going to fighting battle and she was not traveling to go directly to the FOB then stop. You guys are trying too hard to find anything to criticize and it doesn't work. There's nothing fanboy about it, it's common sense and you're trying to inject things into the story line that aren't even there.

If you cannot find anything in the story that says she wasn't direct to stay stationed at the FOB, then give up, dude.

What did you really understand about doing "rotation", you thought they would just travel across the checkpoint like going on a trip? You're really insufferable fanboy at this point.

They're doing a patrol while traveling to the FOB, that's what it means by doing rotation. I can't believe that I had to say this.
How do you think they could clean off the route from hazards routinely? Fuck at least the probability is 50% ++ for a fight in every assignment.
Also I keep responding because I want to see what else bullshit you want to say, keep pulling it. I'm still not tired from getting the "response".

 

[DForce]

What did you really understand about doing "rotation", you thought they would just travel across the checkpoint like going on a trip? You're really insufferable fanboy at this point.

They're doing a patrol while traveling to the FOB, that's what it means by doing rotation. I can't believe that I had to say this.
How do you think they could clean off the route from hazards routinely? Fuck at least the probability is 50% ++ for a fight in every assignment.
Also I keep responding because I want to see what else bullshit you want to say, keep pulling it. I'm still not tired from getting the "response".

That's not what it means by doing rotation.

They were CALLED up to another location. This means their rotating assignments AT the FOB. You're literally trying to twist the story.

There's no bullshit, you're trying to twist the narrative of the story because you don't want to admit that you're wrong.

Manny: We've been called up
Manny: Isaac wants us at the front.

Manny later asks Mel what she was called up for and she answers with, "It's just the usual rotation, don't worry."


You can't find any dialog where it says they were going to patrol an area while traveling. They were only asked to go directly to the FOB and that's it.

So this right here...

They're doing a patrol while traveling to the FOB, that's what it means by doing rotation.

Is BS. They only carried weapons for protection, something that's not uncommon. They weren't asked to get out and scout the area, they were only traveling to the FOB.


I don't know why people try this hard to find hoes in a story when it goes against all logic. If you can't find dialog to as evidence to show they were asked to patrol the area while traveling, then don't even bother debating this topic any further.

 

[Azurro]

Rotation is just an assignment rotation and it's at the FOB. They never said she will be required to fight. A pregnant woman is capable of working in an infirmary. In real life, women do work as a nurse while pregnant. They may be limited on what they can do, but they're still capable of working while pregnant.

This is only a video game, and nothing in this shows bad writing. People are just desperate to use anything to attack this game.

It's also not really comparable to say the real life modern miltary. This is a fictional world where people with skills like hers are probably in short supply and her skills are more valuable to the WLF than her baby is and as such they are going to push her as far as they can to ensure their operational capabilities

The mental gymnastics you guys do to defend the silly preggo lady being out there fighting in the apocalypse is hilarious.

"Ensure their operational capabilities", lol, because that's what is most effective out there on the field, having a pregnant lady 8 months into it be sent on the field, with her swollen feet and being barely able to stand up while she holds her lower back every time she does it. Just Druckmann things.

 

[DForce]

The mental gymnastics you guys do to defend the silly preggo lady being out there fighting in the apocalypse is hilarious.

"Ensure their operational capabilities", lol, because that's what is most effective out there on the field, having a pregnant lady 8 months into it be sent on the field, with her swollen feet and being barely able to stand up while she holds her lower back every time she does it. Just Druckmann things.

We're talking about plot structure.

into it be sent on the field

What field?

You guys are so desperate to bash a game that you guys are talking about things that not even happening in the story. It's laughable that the biggest critics either did not pay attention to the story or didn't play the game at all.

 

[Azurro]

We're talking about plot structure.



What field?

You guys are so desperate to bash a game that you guys are talking about things that not even happening in the story. It's laughable that the biggest critics either did not pay attention to the story or didn't play the game at all.

See? This is what I mean by impressive mental gymnastics. That woman should have been in some hideout or house somewhere, taking a rest, having tea and putting her feet up with her boyfriend taking care of her, because she's 8 months pregnant.

Not climbing shit and roaming around, it's completely nonsensical. But hey, edgy Druckmann wanted his death preggo lady scene, so he found a way.

But it's ok, I know you must defend the game, it's a LGBTQWERTY++ title, so you have to, it's the progressive and moral thing to do, regardless of the quality of the game.

 

[MagnesG]

That's not what it means by doing rotation.

They were CALLED up to another location. This means their rotating assignments AT the FOB. You're literally trying to twist the story.

There's no bullshit, you're trying to twist the narrative of the story because you don't want to admit that you're wrong.

Manny: We've been called up
Manny: Isaac wants us at the front.

Manny later asks Mel what she was called up for and she answers with, "It's just the usual rotation, don't worry."


You can't find any dialog where it says they were going to patrol an area while traveling. They were only asked to go directly to the FOB and that's it.

So this right here...



Is BS. They only carried weapons for protection, something that's not uncommon. They weren't asked to get out and scout the area, they were only traveling to the FOB.


I don't know why people try this hard to find hoes in a story when it goes against all logic. If you can't find dialog to as evidence to show they were asked to patrol the area while traveling, then don't even bother debating this topic any further.

Okay now that I watched back the scene, I totally missed the point about what you're saying, so my bad. You're assuming she was gonna do a medical rotation at the base, it seems plausible too when I rewatch it. Still not a definite fact though.

Besides, I was confused with the rotation work the BF had been doing, I thought it was that kind of rotation, like doing patrol work for example.

And when they asked to be in the FOB by Isaac I thought Abby and Manny were being called up front for rotation too, because that's what Abby was called for.

The patrol thing is just my assumption, the route is not safe in any way so basically they must've had to scour the area for any dangers too during the way, like what the folks in Jackson did. Yes a whole lot of assumption on my part

I still don't think having Abby on active duty is a sane thing to do, base or not. That "Barely" from her is what that irks me.

 

[MagnesG]

Also she said she would love to stay put (in the base), unlike Manny and others who would love killing the Scars.

What does she do for her usual rotation?

 

[Surface of Me]

Fuck him, not for the content, fuck him for how long it is.

 

[DForce]

See? This is what I mean by impressive mental gymnastics. That woman should have been in some hideout or house somewhere, taking a rest, having tea and putting her feet up with her boyfriend taking care of her, because she's 8 months pregnant.

Not climbing shit and roaming around, it's completely nonsensical. But hey, edgy Druckmann wanted his death preggo lady scene, so he found a way.

But it's ok, I know you must defend the game, it's a LGBTQWERTY++ title, so you have to, it's the progressive and moral thing to do, regardless of the quality of the game.

They didn't know where Owen was.

She was asked to travel to a different base. They were ambushed on the way.

There's no mental gymnastics, I'm just stating what happened in the story.

I have nothing else to say because it's clear that you haven't played the game.

 

[Azurro]

She was asked to travel to a different base. They were ambushed on the way.

This is what is wrong with the scenario of the game, you don't ask a pregnant woman to travel anywhere by foot, period. This was just Druckmann being an edgy dumbass. It's just not realistic, but then again, might as well have rayman and flying pigs in the game after preggo lady and Titenator are part of the narrative.

But as I said, I understand your need to white knight the game, as it's an LGBTQBERT++ game, so it is automatically great.

 

[bumleforce]

This is the most accurate review of this game I have seen.

 

[ricardo_sousa11]

You're making no sense. You're telling me a character SHOULD act when this is a game about characters who happen to have flaws.

The game acknowledges her dumb decision. Nora later tells Abby to tell Mel to settle down. It's evident that Mel knew it was a dumb decision while she was getting stitches in the infirmary.


Bad writing would have characters ignore the fact that she's pregnant going into a battlefield.

Just because she acknowledges that fact doesnt make it realistic, no one would ever let her do it, if they are that desorganized they would have never survived that long as a community, let alone be one of the biggest groups alive.

 

[Robot Carnival]

so I ended up watching a few more of the review videos from Yong Yea, The Critical Drinker, LegacyKillaHD and a Taiwanese Youtuber. basically all of them had point out the same thing as Angry Joe; that the main issue they take are towards the inconsistency of the character behavior and logic. that the presentation is great still but the story itself is just... lacking. lacking in the quality of the relationships. lacking in the sensible development of the story and the characters. now, since I have yet to play the game myself, all I can say is that maybe all these reviewers do have a point towards the game. the game still seems like a great game; but in terms of story, it does seem like it had been handled poorly and not worth the 10/10 praise we seen everywhere. (maybe a 7/10 or 6/10 depending on how much the story means to you).

 

[DragoonKain]

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I'm only 7 mins in and it's the part where he makes fun of story segment of Joel and Tommy telling the group everything.

Already hilarious and true.

 

[Balducci30]

That would have had a very different affect. If you saw Abby's side beforehand, you would go into Joel's death with context. The point is to witness the event, shocked and angry, then the game challenges you to listen to her side of the story despite your emotions.

Very few games ask this of their player and challenge them in this way. It's a bold thing to do and I can completely understand if a lot of people such as yourself disliked it, but this is the nature of creativity.

It isn't bad writing by any means, it's all intentional, it's just a method of writing you dislike and there's nothing wrong with that.

I personally thing they should have gone about it with playing as Abby first - yes they wanted an emotional reaction and I realize why they did it that way - but it felt a little cheap to me. Like yes this is an easy way to get a reaction, and then we’ll just regurgitate Joel’s story from the first game for Abby’s half basically - felt too transparent the methodology behind it. Plus the shock value of killing Joel quickly wears off during Ellie’s portion (I felt the whole game was just way too long) and her storyline doesn’t really have a whole lot going for it that’s very interesting aside from the revenge angle which you get kinda bored by halfway through her campaign. I will say the level where Ellie infiltrates that compound at the end was great and honestly that was the best the game got for me. If the whole thing had been more like that I woulda loved it - but it was a little too try hard for me story-wise especially since it’s a relatively simple theme that’s been explored far better in film. This it was like you’re ahead of the story the entire time - tried to replay it but there is just so many sections to slog through until you get to the great stuff (which here as opposed to the original mainly had to do with the gameplay).

 

[GhostOfTsu]

I don't follow any youtubers but I just saw his video about the extended discussion and I agreed with all his points.

I'm not surprised. You have to be VERY careful there if you didn't like TLOU2 or any of the new characters. They always find a way to make it about identity politics and you risk of getting banned.

They are all gushing about Abby and Lev there and FUCK white daddy Joel. If you don't like Abby as a character then you're a misogynist against buff ladies as if that's all she represented.

 

[urmie]

REEEEEEset Communists strike again. SkillUp too was also banned apparently.

 

[Warnen]

I got banned in that thread for whataboutism when I asked why can we talk about naughty dog games when they have been accused of such heinous things (as listed in Jim Sterling’s vid) yet we can’t talk about Angry Joe cause he makes some bad jokes.

mostly just posted in the Destiny Threads so no big loss, so many poster in those thread are terrified to post out side of the Destiny thread in fear of getting banned for no reason at all.

 

[Woggleman]

My opinion about TLOU2 couldn't be more different from his but he has the right to his views and the cancel mob should not come for him. His one off about the game being anti-male was a bad take but in general does not show he hates women.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

Using the term clowns and clown emoji, yeah this is pushing him to the right, or they'll at least see it that way. Which is fine, we need more Trump voters.

 

[sol_bad]

Watched the whole review, I'm quite amazed at how immature the 3 of them were during the ssx scene. So weird. Shouting at the screen asking if they are seeing a sex scene.

 

[sobaka770]

This is what is wrong with the scenario of the game, you don't ask a pregnant woman to travel anywhere by foot, period. This was just Druckmann being an edgy dumbass. It's just not realistic, but then again, might as well have rayman and flying pigs in the game after preggo lady and Titenator are part of the narrative.

But as I said, I understand your need to white knight the game, as it's an LGBTQBERT++ game, so it is automatically great.

They went in a car nobody asked her to trek on foot anywhere.

 

[Azurro]

They went in a car nobody asked her to trek on foot anywhere.

Really? So why can I find footage of this character climbing up and roaming about? Again, it's a pregnant lady in the apocalypse, she shouldn't be going outside for anything if the organization she belongs to cares at all about her well being and of the baby, there's no reason for her to be out there except to do this parallel between Abby and Ellie.

 

[bishopcruz]

They went in a car nobody asked her to trek on foot anywhere.

Honestly, I think it's more insane that they are attacked within a minute of leaving their headquarters and there is no backup. Hell how the fuck do the scars get DOZENS of people and horses that close to the VLF base? It's just stupid as hell. If the roads are that dangerous, and poorly guarded, sending Mel out to do anything would be idiotic.

 

[sobaka770]

Really? So why can I find footage of this character climbing up and roaming about? Again, it's a pregnant lady in the apocalypse, she shouldn't be going outside for anything if the organization she belongs to cares at all about her well being and of the baby, there's no reason for her to be out there except to do this parallel between Abby and Ellie.

So you didn't play the game and come bash on a plot development and scenario of the game?

At least pay attention to the thread, posters already pointed out that she was going to another camp in a car and got ambushed on the way, hence the walking.
Also we know how the Scars move around based on plot as well that's why the WLF was surprised they appeared between their fortified lines, Lev's mission is literally explaining that.

 

[Balducci30]

So you didn't play the game and come bash on a plot development and scenario of the game?

At least pay attention to the thread, posters already pointed out that she was going to another camp in a car and got ambushed on the way, hence the walking.
Also we know how the Scars move around based on plot as well that's why the WLF was surprised they appeared between their fortified lines, Lev's mission is literally explaining that.

I played the game - she volunteered to go. There was def a risk of the scars attacking. That was clear. Remember with Dina how the whole thing was - oh we need to take her back bc she's pregnant - we gotta leave her inside because she's pregnant - she was hiding that she was pregnant - if we had known blah blah blah. To pretend this was logical is ridiculous.

 

[SantaC]

Uhh, ACG did in this case? Hence his review coming after the release of the game.

His reviews always drop like 2 weeks after release

 

[nowhat]

His reviews always drop like 2 weeks after release

Uhh, also patently false. He does have several reviews released when the review embargo is lifted. Just that this time around, he felt that the restrictions given for a review copy were too strict. Amitire Karak ?

 

[SantaC]

Uhh, also patently false. He does have several reviews released when the review embargo is lifted. Just that this time around, he felt that the restrictions given for a review copy were too strict. Amitire Karak ?

Ok, i cant remember an AJ review right on time when the embargo lifts.

 

[nowhat]

Ok, i cant remember an AJ review right on time when the embargo lifts.

Reading comprehension FTW - I was talking about ACG, not AJ.

 

[SantaC]

Reading comprehension FTW - I was talking about ACG, not AJ.

Ah apologies then.

 

[Kerotan]

The guy explained himself for nearly 50 minutes, and that's not enough?

Ironically he complained about bad writing in the last of us but the writing of his reviews script was trash.

I watched it all and while hilarious he over looked some glaring aspects of the story that lended themselves favourably too it. But obviously he was set out to diss the game.

Either he chose to do that or he's an idiot. Either way as a piece of entertainment the review was 10/10. In terms of the quality as a serious review probably 3/10.

 

[Piku_Ringo]

rest in pepperonis

 

[Azurro]

So you didn't play the game and come bash on a plot development and scenario of the game?

At least pay attention to the thread, posters already pointed out that she was going to another camp in a car and got ambushed on the way, hence the walking.
Also we know how the Scars move around based on plot as well that's why the WLF was surprised they appeared between their fortified lines, Lev's mission is literally explaining that.

I watched a play through of the game, I prefer to watch the game to see how bad the elements of extremist ideology that were inserted are, if it's a franchise I liked but the leadership went crazy. My main gripe is the story and characters, no amount of takedowns or stealth gameplay will change those.

You are not seriously suggesting people spend money on a game just to be preached to when there are other ways.

 

[LittleBigGamer]

And it took too long.

Also, his response is at least childish.

 

[sol_bad]

I played the game - she volunteered to go. There was def a risk of the scars attacking. That was clear. Remember with Dina how the whole thing was - oh we need to take her back bc she's pregnant - we gotta leave her inside because she's pregnant - she was hiding that she was pregnant - if we had known blah blah blah. To pretend this was logical is ridiculous.

These are two totally separate things. What is it with people not understanding perspective in this game?

To Ellie and Dina, the lay of the land was unknown to them. Everywhere in Seattle was a potential death trap, their mission from the get go was dangerous.
To Abby and Mel, they were simply moving between camps within WLF territory, territory that they thought was safe. They were ambushed, they were not aware the Scars would be in that area.

OMG all of you guys minds are already set up on defending the everything about the game. It has no flaws basically in your mind and can be deflected with your logic. Everything is just perfect, because it's a video game right....

Your mind is set up on attacking the game?

See? This is what I mean by impressive mental gymnastics. That woman should have been in some hideout or house somewhere, taking a rest, having tea and putting her feet up with her boyfriend taking care of her, because she's 8 months pregnant.

See that is 100% some sexist talk there. Pregnant women in our times have their own brain and can make their own decisions, men don't make the decisions for them, we aren't living in the 1800's or early 1900's anymore. In a post apocalyptic future, men and women, even more so, need to pull together and work together to survive. Mel's skills are valuable and are needed, once she starts having contractions, then it's time for her to back off and go into labor.

 

[MagnesG]

Your mind is set up on attacking the game?

Now that is funny. I just don't care at this point.

Continue with your fictional pregananant talk.

 

[Balducci30]

These are two totally separate things. What is it with people not understanding perspective in this game?

To Ellie and Dina, the lay of the land was unknown to them. Everywhere in Seattle was a potential death trap, their mission from the get go was dangerous.
To Abby and Mel, they were simply moving between camps within WLF territory, territory that they thought was safe. They were ambushed, they were not aware the Scars would be in that area.



Your mind is set up on attacking the game?



See that is 100% some sexist talk there. Pregnant women in our times have their own brain and can make their own decisions, men don't make the decisions for them, we aren't living in the 1800's or early 1900's anymore. In a post apocalyptic future, men and women, even more so, need to pull together and work together to survive. Mel's skills are valuable and are needed, once she starts having contractions, then it's time for her to back off and go into labor.

I definitely understood the perspective of the game. It didn't make a whole lot of sense for her to be volunteering to travel to another camp when they were in a state of war - wherein the scars were continually getting the drop on them. It wasn't like those sky bridges were recent things - they had been using them for awhile. I have no dog in this fight. I really don't care but it seems like a bit of a stretch to just outright dismiss certain criticisms that are perfectly valid. It certainly wasn't a SMART decision, lets put it that way. And certainly wasn't a SMART decision for Joel and Tommy to say their names and location - these were both profoundly dumb moments by the characters. Can people. be profoundly dumb? Sure. I mean it happens, but that doesn't mean they aren't being dumb. And obviously people expected at least Joel to be a little more streetwise than he was in his situation and Mel to be a little more intelligent in hers. Hopefully that clears things up.

 

[Balducci30]

Let me just say this for people. Some thought the writing in this game was shit. Not from bias. Not because they are anti-whatever. They actually felt it was shit. And that doesn't mean they didn't understand the story that was happening (I mean that would be it's own issue if you literally couldn't understand the story but I digress) it means they thought it was shit. Now I thought the story was weak - especially compared to the first game - in it's execution and overall writing. As I said you feel ahead of the story at basically all points. You see the pieces being moved into place very clearly, It has trouble earning many moments and it just is too long. Now you might not have felt that or experienced that - maybe you were genuinely like whoa I can't believe they did that at every step I don't know. But that's great you enjoyed it. I still think the gameplay itself is awesome, and essentially everything but the story is great so I'd rate it higher than a 6 for sure based off of the fact that I mainly play video games to have fun and it was fun. The plot itself wasn't as tight and effective as the first game and that's the reason I wanted a sequel and the story to be awesome - but it's a video game, and the video game parts of it were great. Just hard to play again as it's a bit of a chore to skip past all the cutscenes and walking exposition scenes.

 

[sobaka770]

I watched a play through of the game, I prefer to watch the game to see how bad the elements of extremist ideology that were inserted are, if it's a franchise I liked but the leadership went crazy. My main gripe is the story and characters, no amount of takedowns or stealth gameplay will change those.

You are not seriously suggesting people spend money on a game just to be preached to when there are other ways.

There is no extremist ideology in the game.

The fact that you even say this, call leadership crazy and misrepresent the plot of the game you watched to say characters are bad clearly states that the only extremist view here is fuelled by your own bias.

 

[Karak]

Uhh, also patently false. He does have several reviews released when the review embargo is lifted. Just that this time around, he felt that the restrictions given for a review copy were too strict. Amitire Karak ?

Ya almost all my reviews are on embargo date.
Thinking that person meant Angry Joe and not me.

I did refuse this outright ya. It would have been tough but doable time-wise but I had a word of the embargo restrictions and there was no way. I think I have done maybe 3-4 videos on reviews, the context in reviews, and various others many mentioning embargoes and being free to refuse them and as I said in a prior video. You can refuse them. If someone thinks a single game is going to explode their channel into the millions they are probably wrong anyway. I have missed a number of bigger and small games due to just not agreeing with how coverage was going to occur. Even when I was a very small channel.
If I can't describe what I want to describe fuck it. Not doing it. I have refused about 40 since I started if not more.

 

[sol_bad]

I definitely understood the perspective of the game. It didn't make a whole lot of sense for her to be volunteering to travel to another camp when they were in a state of war - wherein the scars were continually getting the drop on them. It wasn't like those sky bridges were recent things - they had been using them for awhile. I have no dog in this fight. I really don't care but it seems like a bit of a stretch to just outright dismiss certain criticisms that are perfectly valid. It certainly wasn't a SMART decision, lets put it that way. And certainly wasn't a SMART decision for Joel and Tommy to say their names and location - these were both profoundly dumb moments by the characters. Can people. be profoundly dumb? Sure. I mean it happens, but that doesn't mean they aren't being dumb. And obviously people expected at least Joel to be a little more streetwise than he was in his situation and Mel to be a little more intelligent in hers. Hopefully that clears things up.

It's a world that we don't fully understand and it allows for viewer/player perspective to make sense of certain elements.

It can be considered dumb to allow a pregnant woman anywhere near the front lines of a battle, in our world in the current day and that can be possibly be extended to a post apocalyptic world too. At the same time, people with medical knowledge may be low in numbers in the TLOU world and if WLF are losing the war they might push as many people with that knowledge as far as possible. After all, if they lose, that pregnant woman is going to die anyway.

As for Joel and Tommy, if you come from the perspective of the first game, yeah it could be dumb that they gave their names so easily. They were very guarded back then. We don't know what has happened within the town in the 4 years between games though. We know that Joel has softened as a person and is more caring. Joel and Tommy may have come across hundreds of survivors that joined their community for all we know. Tommy offers for them to come back to their town to restock before continuing their travel, so it's obvious they have offered help before in this manner.

 

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