Because she is a good girl.Why is she giving the old guy head?
This moron is trying to get the guy fired. This thread needs to be locked
Wouldn’t matter. It’s already all over Twitter.This moron is trying to get the guy fired. This thread needs to be locked
Yeah I hear ya. These are the same engineers that have been having the most visually impressive software for decades. Mark Cerny, the I.C.E team inside Naughty Dog, they know what they're doing and we'll see the fruits of their design choices very soonI'm super patient (just a bit unhinged), so I'll just keep my preorders and keep my eye on things.
If I feel pissed off about something I'll just keep one.
We'll see about that bub!I'm expecting the XSX version of multiplats to easily win, damn near every single Digital Foundry head to head, all gen long.
So we have a PS5 with "up to 10Tflops" on RDNA 1.5 vs a "sustained 12Tflops" on full blown RDNA 2. It's not even close.
Can't believe PS5 is primarily Navi based. Yikes.
We'll see about that bub!
Sorry, you are saying that a principal programmer at Sony is ignorant? Who are you?There are NAVI-based versions with dedicated dot product processing.
AMD sells those cards specifically for ML work loads.
The guy is ignorant.
.... okYes, we will see that I am right.
I agree!
Oh my god, marry me. I think I have found the one person on gaf who thinks like me.I'll still support PlayStation but this stuff is really pissing me off....
The incompetence between the way they handled TLOU2 leaks, the bad marketing job they did for Ghost of Tsushima, putting stupid games like Goodbye Volcano High in the PS5 reveal (I mean WTF)!
Then all of the bad messaging with the console.... if this is truly not full RDNA2, then they better be charging much less than the competition.
I'm still not totally convinced this is real cause we've seen a lot of misinformation put out there about PlayStation trying to damage the brand from..... well you know!
Anyway, if they start pushing streaming, I'll be done with them.... I'll just go back to being Nintendo only.
Lol, first you got mad at Ubisoft and swore to never buy any ubi game, now you mad at Sony .I'll still support PlayStation but this stuff is really pissing me off....
The incompetence between the way they handled TLOU2 leaks, the bad marketing job they did for Ghost of Tsushima, putting stupid games like Goodbye Volcano High in the PS5 reveal (I mean WTF)!
Then all of the bad messaging with the console.... if this is truly not full RDNA2, then they better be charging much less than the competition.
I'm still not totally convinced this is real cause we've seen a lot of misinformation put out there about PlayStation trying to damage the brand from..... well you know!
Anyway, if they start pushing streaming, I'll be done with them.... I'll just go back to being Nintendo only.
... Nvm that was quick.As long as PS5 plays games..... I think I'll be fine!
And back to warringWill it feel bad when PlayStation sells 3 times more than Series X anyway?
What about when the exclusives on PS5 completely overshadow anything on the X?
It's ok, you can do what Xbox fans all do to feel better.... post spoilers about PS exclusives and reviewbomb...
Sorry, you are saying that a principal programmer at Sony is ignorant? Who are you?
Yes. I was always on the PlayStation train....I will get one but all of those are serious problems. Communication is terrible, I dunno what is going on but they really need to get a handle on messaging and start engaging with the community.Oh my god, marry me. I think I have found the one person on gaf who thinks like me.
Yes, this is getting aggravating. Where there is smoke, there is fire. There have been way too many of these smokes around the PS5 and the reveal didnt do it any favors. No gameplay for horizon, demon and spiderman. Underwhelming graphics upgrade especially compared to Unreal Engine rebirth demo, and Hellblade 2. SSD was used as a gimmick by one game. How do we know it improves graphics in other games?
No real interviews by Mark Cerny to clear up any of these lingering questions. he did one interview with DF months ago and it didnt clear up anything. Phil is out there chatting with Washington Post and whoever would talk to him, and Sony cant send out their main architect to dispel some rumors about their console?
Is VRS in the console? Yes or no. Is Machine Learning in? What are the average clocks? Why are we relying on principal engineers and ex-architects on twitter to get our information when the specs have been out. When the console has been revealed. And the games have been shown?
We dont even know what kind of native boost mode will be on the PS5. It is atrocious marketing. I can understand engineering mistakes or limitations that made them go with a rdna 1.0 gpu and bolt on RT and machine learning and other rdna 2.0 features. I wont be happy, but I can understand that. But this kind of secrecy is just misleading at this point. People need to know whats inside these consoles so they can make an informed decision. I really dont care about specs enough to not buy a PS5, but on principle I think its important that all of these questions be answered. It's shocking how Cerny hasnt done a single video interview yet.
Oh my god, marry me. I think I have found the one person on gaf who thinks like me.
Yes, this is getting aggravating. Where there is smoke, there is fire. There have been way too many of these smokes around the PS5 and the reveal didnt do it any favors. No gameplay for horizon, demon and spiderman. Underwhelming graphics upgrade especially compared to Unreal Engine rebirth demo, and Hellblade 2. SSD was used as a gimmick by one game. How do we know it improves graphics in other games?
No real interviews by Mark Cerny to clear up any of these lingering questions. he did one interview with DF months ago and it didnt clear up anything. Phil is out there chatting with Washington Post and whoever would talk to him, and Sony cant send out their main architect to dispel some rumors about their console?
Is VRS in the console? Yes or no. Is Machine Learning in? What are the average clocks? Why are we relying on principal engineers and ex-architects on twitter to get our information when the specs have been out. When the console has been revealed. And the games have been shown?
We dont even know what kind of native boost mode will be on the PS5. It is atrocious marketing. I can understand engineering mistakes or limitations that made them go with a rdna 1.0 gpu and bolt on RT and machine learning and other rdna 2.0 features. I wont be happy, but I can understand that. But this kind of secrecy is just misleading at this point. People need to know whats inside these consoles so they can make an informed decision. I really dont care about specs enough to not buy a PS5, but on principle I think its important that all of these questions be answered. It's shocking how Cerny hasnt done a single video interview yet.
meh, you are on a video game forum where people have been speculating about this hardware for 2+ years in a thread that has more than 100 thousand replies and like 10 million views. of course, people will care.Some of you take this console stuff WAYYYYYY to seriously. Like literally going through the stages of grief just because your console of choice MAY be RDNA 1.5.
It’s just a piece of plastic
Yeah that all may be true....but SSD.So we could end up with a situation where we have one console with 10.2 RNDA1.5 tflop (variable) vs one console with 12.2 RDNA2.0 tflop (sustained)?
Perhaps the gap is bigger than the 17% people talk about.
OR its the same for Xbox Series X - it also use RDNA1.5?
Yep. it allows for ridiculous takes like this below to perpetuate.Yes. I was always on the PlayStation train....I will get one but all of those are serious problems. Communication is terrible, I dunno what is going on but they really need to get a handle on messaging and start engaging with the community.
Back at the start of the PS4 Shuhei and Boyes and others put themselves out there and were talking to people. Now it's like Ryan is totally detached, up in some building somewhere doing no intereviews, no interaction...just nothing.
It's all being taken advantage of.... people are finding holes in what they've said and making it all into a PR disaster.
I'll just call it bad management.
This is a big deal if true. Here is a very rough hypothetical breakdown.
12 TFLOPS
+ 25% ML upscale efficiency improvement
+ 25% IPC improvement (RDNA2 is supposedly 50% more than RDNA1, but I split that in half)
+ 25% VRS efficiency improvement
= 23.4TF or 130% performance difference over PS5
Edited..I was a bit unfair to the Xbox crowd..... sorry!Lol, first you got mad at Ubisoft and swore to never buy any ubi game, now you mad at Sony .
I hate to see you like this, don't worry man, stay strong, it's just a ...
... Nvm that was quick.
And back to warring
I think ML is way bigger deal honestly, for actually saving performance.This is a big deal if true. Here is a very rough hypothetical breakdown.
12 TFLOPS
+ 25% ML upscale efficiency improvement
+ 25% IPC improvement (RDNA2 is supposedly 50% more than RDNA1, but I split that in half)
+ 25% VRS efficiency improvement
= 23.4TF or 130% performance difference over PS5
OP shared info regarding only PS5.Hey OP console wars make you look stupid.
I think ML is way bigger deal honestly, for actually saving performance.
Nothing wrong with caring but why the dramatics? Will Sony all of sudden not know how to make great games now? The games are still coming and will look great. That’s all I’m trying to saymeh, you are on a video game forum where people have been speculating about this hardware for 2+ years in a thread that has more than 100 thousand replies and like 10 million views. of course, people will care.
now apparently xbox is literally 2x as powerful. lol
Some of you take this console stuff WAYYYYYY to seriously. Like literally going through the stages of grief just because your console of choice MAY be RDNA 1.5.
It’s just a piece of plastic
Hahaha funny man. Thats why you are on the chopping block right?Sad to see Sony fans crying over such things, I for one have never cried on this forum due to lack of hardware power
This is a big deal if true. Here is a very rough hypothetical breakdown.
12 TFLOPS
+ 25% ML upscale efficiency improvement
+ 25% IPC improvement (RDNA2 is supposedly 50% more than RDNA1, but I split that in half)
+ 25% VRS efficiency improvement
= 23.4TF or 130% performance difference over PS5
The laughs going to be on you when Naughty Dog still has the best looking games next generationWell well well. I guess there will be fewer pubic hairs on Naughty Dog's next gay sex scene.
Microsoft already said RDNA2.So we could end up with a situation where we have one console with 10.2 RNDA1.5 tflop (variable) vs one console with 12.2 RDNA2.0 tflop (sustained)?
Perhaps the gap is bigger than the 17% people talk about.
OR its the same for Xbox Series X - it also use RDNA1.5?
Praise be to Timdog who died for our sins!Well look at that. Leakers were right the whole time PS5 wasn't true RDNA 2.
(I'm neutral, i take no side) Don't worry i'm not the type of guy that get triggered and start spamming report everytime he reads a comment.Edited..I was a bit unfair to the Xbox crowd..... sorry!
I get carried away sometimes.
You have to see this from the other side.... this whole thread seems like a giant troll!
Of course, I leave my childish console warring in the threads... I like everyone here and I don't really mean to offend anyone!(I'm neutral, i take no side) Don't worry i'm not the type of guy that get triggered and start spamming report everytime he reads a comment.
Are we friends now ? I really want to be your friend, i like you.