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[PaintTinJr]

I don't find it relevant weather MS was first to start charging for playing online. I mean, that was back in 2005? They were significantly ahead of sony at that time when it came to Xbox Live and it's features.

MS has a reputation for being consumer friendly now. As i've stated above, you better believe the backlash will be severe within the industry, social media,youtube etc.

As you said, you're not big on playing online to begin with, so it's not a big issue for you, where as people who play COD, GTA, RDR2,BF, GR etc, this will be a big factor for many.

Some people do not like supporting a brand if they feel like they're getting ripped off when the competition is offering the same service for free. People have been complaining about paying to play online for years.

But the services are never going to be the same, because the first and 2nd party game output on each console is different, and even how much of those games' development is spent on an online component differs.

Take Death Stranding for instance, it has an online component, and yet it isn't locked behind PS+, so a gamer getting access to that type of game on one platform with a paywall - but doesn't negatively impact the game isn't going to complain about the service offering IMO, whereas no paywall, but no games at that AAA tier experience on your console might give some gamers something to complain about the overall value proposition - looking over the fence - IMO.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

As far as I know, it was Marvel who approached Sony to make a new Spiderman game, then Sony hired Insomniac to do the job.

Sony Pictures Imageworks does visual effects and animations for Marvel, WB, Disney movies/series. Expect them going to Sony in future games as they see the impact of the quality control Sony has over its games, and how EA made Star Wars a laughing stock despite the ok Jedi game.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Nice one for Bend. Days Gone is my third favourite PS4 exclusive behind God of War and Ghosts. Can't wait for the sequel

 

[Killer Sakoman]

Won't work in which sense?

It just doesn't work. You won't be able to play any game and Sony will not refund. Same as for movies that are sold on US store. If I am for example in KSA, the movie won't run.

You can, however, buy games from US store and play them with out issues. For example, Sony decided not to release TLOU2 in KSA (because they are afraid of backlash due to the gay stuff), so I bought the game from the US store.

 

[Snowdonhoffen]

But the services are never going to be the same, because the first and 2nd party game output on each console is different, and even how much of those games' development is spent on an online component differs.

Take Death Stranding for instance, it has an online component, and yet it isn't locked behind PS+, so a gamer getting access to that type of game on one platform with a paywall - but doesn't negatively impact the game isn't going to complain about the service offering IMO, whereas no paywall, but no games at that AAA tier experience on your console might give some gamers something to complain about the overall value proposition - looking over the fence - IMO.

Also we need to take into consideration that they will sell the XSX at a loss and that Game Pass doesn't make a lot of money as of now, thinking that they will remove one of their most steady sources of income is too much. Probably when XSX and GP are profitable they will think about completely removing the paywall, but right now I just can't see it happening.

 

[jimbojim]

It just doesn't work. You won't be able to play any game and Sony will not refund. Same as for movies that are sold on US store. If I am for example in KSA, the movie won't run.

You can, however, buy games from US store and play them with out issues. For example, Sony decided not to release TLOU2 in KSA (because they are afraid of backlash due to the gay stuff), so I bought the game from the US store.

I've said few days ago. I can download/stream games from PS NOW US even i'm from EU. Just bought the damn 1 month sub and everything worked fine.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

And the movie rights of 900 other Marvel characters. (Which characters, I havnt been able to find out...)

They had the chance to buy the game rights for all Marvel characters, but they decided no.

Worst. Decision. Ever.

Why shouldn't they just invent their own characters at this point anyway? No need to rely on any.

 

[Killer Sakoman]

If I were the head of Xbox, I would not communicate with Timdog.

 

[jimbojim]

Microsoft Flight Simulator indeed looks amazing, but it can easily afford to. There's no enemies on screen, no multiple A.I. scripts, no fast movement ... it's literally a game where you slowly move the camera within a beautiful, beautiful landscape, with gorgeous weather effects on top.

Pretty much. Btw. i want to see a RT reflections on windows on some of the worlds most known buildings. Or want to see RT envinroment reflections on cars. Probably you can use some small plain and land in the middle of New York and use taxi

 

[MasterCornholio]

If I were the head of Xbox, I would not communicate with Timdog.

I think Phil knows what kind of person Tim Dog is. How could he not?

 

[Killer Sakoman]

I've said few days ago. I can download/stream games from PS NOW US even i'm from EU. Just bought the damn 1 month sub and everything worked fine.

Does PSNOW support your country?

 

[SSfox]

It has close user score (8.2) to the overrated RDR2 (8.4). Word of mouth, youtubers, etc. Can't wait for a sequel! The ending is insanely exciting for the next one!

I don't care about scores tbh, but yeah i think reviewers gone even more harsh on it. I value players scores more than reviews anyway so, but then again you own score and opinion is always the one that really matter in the end.

Also i truly love RDR2, but while i think the game is outstanding but i disagree with the perfect scores, it's awesome game on many aspects for sure to say the least (there's so much greatness to say about this game it won't end) but it also it's not perfect, but it's definitely one of the best game on this gen, in my top 5 easy personally.

 

[jimbojim]

Does PSNOW support your country?

Nope.

 

[lepermessiah]

Hope I haven't missed anyone

Spoiler

fun fact
There is actually 4 people including Craig in the night sky, can you see the mysterious 4 person?

Put me in there having juicy sex with Cerny.

 

[Killer Sakoman]

Already at 7.6 million players:

Account Suspended

Those numbers Xbox can't even dream of.

Metacritic SJW made their magic, 71 critics, 8.2 user score.

Just like Ghost of Tsushima, 83 critics, 9.3 user score.

The user score of GoT is more accurate than stupid critics.

 

[jimbojim]

If I were the head of Xbox, I would not communicate with Timdog.

I think Phil knows what kind of person Tim Dog is. How could he not?

 

[Killer Sakoman]

Nope.

I will try again and let you know

 

[MasterCornholio]

Put me in there having juicy sex with Cerny.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Which one is Tim?

 

[Killer Sakoman]

Sony Pictures Imageworks does visual effects and animations for Marvel, WB, Disney movies/series. Expect them going to Sony in future games as they see the impact of the quality control Sony has over its games, and how EA made Star Wars a laughing stock despite the ok Jedi game.

Good, VFX veteran can apply for a job there

 

[Killer Sakoman]

Which one is Tim?

I don't see a dog in the picture

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Good, VFX veteran can apply for a job there

He's too talkative to their taste.

 

[Gediminas]

It has close user score (8.2) to the overrated RDR2 (8.4). Word of mouth, youtubers, etc. Can't wait for a sequel! The ending is insanely exciting for the next one!

Days Gone was amazing experience. Rough diamond. for me personally, well above RDR2 or TLOU2.

 

[jimbojim]

Which one is Tim?

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

I still think one of the Sony studios is working on a big online mutliplayer game, probably in development concurrently with another i.p that we know about.

Sony's ability to seemingly generate big AAA franchises is uncanny - TLOU, Horizon, Spiderman, Days Gone, GoT...I think they will turn to mp to create their next big PS5 franchise.

 

[Empire Strikes Back]

Already at 7.6 million players:

Account Suspended

Those numbers Xbox can't even dream of.

Metacritic SJW made their magic, 71 critics, 8.2 user score.

Just like Ghost of Tsushima, 83 critics, 9.3 user score.

Amazing numbers. I really underestimate Bend. Benji is right, those numbers deserve PR. It's a shame Sony only market sales when breaking records.

 

[MasterCornholio]

ROFL

 

[iamvin22]

I know many people that own 1080p TVs that support 120hz which is most likely what Halo will run at.

1080p

I think you have to have a sit down with them and upgrade. All of next year's models will be 120.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Amazing numbers. I really underestimate Bend. Benji is right, those numbers deserve PR. It's a shame Sony only market sales when breaking records.

I think Sony is getting too big that such numbers don't impress them that much. They only make me happy that Days Gone 2 gonna be fully supported, and that's what count.

 

[user1337]

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[kretos]

Already at 7.6 million players:

Account Suspended

Those numbers Xbox can't even dream of.

Metacritic SJW made their magic, 71 critics, 8.2 user score.

Just like Ghost of Tsushima, 83 critics, 9.3 user score.

i hear Days Gone had many problems and bugs during launch maybe that affected the score, i played a few months ago so i didn't encounter any bugs, but anyway the game is great it's a little slow at the beginning but i didn't care because the gameplay is great specially taking down hordes

the game looks great and the weather effects was one of the best i've seen this gen, can't wait to see how the sequel will look like on PS5



only problem i had was the loading times it's probably one of the worst this gen

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Lol at the man holding it tight with both hands across his chest. If we think that's bad (in a good way) just wait for the PS5. The funny thing about Europe is that consumers are so loyal to the brand. Here in the states people would be really tempted to get an Xbox if PS is not in stock or on the shelves. Too many dudebros of the COD/Madden/NBA2k type. In Europe that shit don't fly. PS or death.

Actually it's the entire world not just Europe, when you got Messi, Ronaldo, etc playing on PS, and seeing playstation on every corner as a partner of UEFA Champions League since 1997, who even cares about xbox especially at this state with no games running on the system so far? Unless you're that guy crying from joy when seen Halo Infinite reveal, there is no reason to buy XSX.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

1080p

I think you have to have a sit down with them and upgrade. All of next year's models will be 120.

You said no one has these TVs and I know quite a few of these people including a lot of my friends owning HDMI 2.1 Tvs.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

I have posted this many many times in the past.

To be honest, that's some very respectful CV, but doesn't mean that you don't have wrong speculations on things, and with such expertise you should be more than capable of acknowledging that HFW, for example, had some flaws suggesting it running in real-time.

Hellblade 2 wasn't 100% 4K though, and 100% prerendered at 24fps on anonymous hardware. Forza Motorsports was prerendered as well at 24fps, same goes to State of Decay 3. The rest are the same as well.

If we're gonna use those as real time, then we should count this one (any sane person would know it's not, even Sony put a clear disclaimer):




And this

 

[Empire Strikes Back]

Pretty much. Btw. i want to see a RT reflections on windows on some of the worlds most known buildings. Or want to see RT envinroment reflections on cars. Probably you can use some small plain and land in the middle of New York and use taxi

Native 4K, 60fps/120fps Ray Traced Airports. Experience the real next-gen check-in.

 

[RasAlGhoul]

Days Gone is a very under rated game. Hopefully they can sort out the piss poor input lag in the sequel though.

 

[Darklor01]

Isn't that one of the things driving revenue tho?

So, let’s say company A says, you buy my box and you can play online at not extra cost. If you want, for $10 a month I’ll give you access to over 100 games including some that are pretty recent and some brand new 1st party titles any time you want. Then Company A days, what’s company B doing for you?

Pretty smart. Get them to buy your box by giving therm something the competitor makes them pay for and they’ll go for Gamepass because it’s a solid value.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

My only grievance with him is his attitude. He certainly has knowledge that I could learn from in general. Lots of it. The issue I take is that he purports perception as fact. None of us actually know what the devs of the game know. What the hardware on either side is truly capable of ..etc. That all said, his commentary starting to throw names, and say who will leave with him...etc. That sounds like him threatening the community.

My statement about not losing sleep if he left, .. I speak for me. I can't have a proper conversation and debate with even an agreement to disagree with someone who can't do the same. When he started threatening to take people with him if he left.. well, that's my reaction. Wrong or right, it's my reaction.

He has some respectful CV (Movies), but that doesn't make him Mark Cerny.

 

[Gamernyc78]

The user score of GoT is more accurate than stupid critics.

Fucking loved this game to the point of playing it. Beautiful world, good combat, dynamic wearger/time of day and the world is super dynamic. Loved ruding by abd seeing animals attack zombies, zombies attacking bigger zombies, etc... Alot of devs can learn how to make a lush, well populated, fun open world from this studio.

 

[Gamernyc78]

Actually it's the entire world not just Europe, when you got Messi, Ronaldo, etc playing on PS, and seeing playstation on every corner as a partner of UEFA Champions League since 1997, who even cares about xbox especially at this state with no games running on the system so far? Unless you're that guy crying from joy when seen Halo Infinite reveal, there is no reason to buy XSX.

Who cried for joy? I heard tears of dismay, saltyness and disappointment. Ppl were universally let down

 

[Neo Blaster]

This is why I doubt they will do it... I know that a lot of people will say amazing things about MS if they do that, but I don't believe people will buy XBX for that reason... like people were ready to buy XONE before the catastrophic launch even believing Sony would have a free online like with PS3.

Gamepass is out there since 2017, Xbox FP games are included day and date on it along with big deals for recent TP games, there are constant $1 promotions and gifts luring people. They have this amazing value for consumers, and yet we didn't see people urging to buy Xboxes. I don't see free online changing this situation.

 

[GRIEVEZ]

Why shouldn't they just invent their own characters at this point anyway? No need to rely on any.

Because their stages are already pretty much set (story, powers, established fanbase, recognizable - so it somewhat lowers risk).

But yeah Sony could just (continue to) make their own (Super Hero) IP's if needed (also more money, since merchandise could all be in Sony's pockets).

Trying to find the article, where the game rights would've been sold for and it was incredibly low (think it was late 90s early 2000). But I somehow cant find it... and gave up

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Who cried for joy? I heard tears of dismay, saltyness and disappointment. Ppl were universally let down

Due to severe game quality starvation, I can understand his reaction.

 

[sircaw]

When i get my ps5

Days gone, spiderman, assassins creed odyssey tlou2, Got. so much catching up

 

[sircaw]

Due to severe game quality starvation, I can understand his reaction.

If he reacts like that, imagine when he finally gets laid, he is gonna have a heart attack .

 

[sircaw]

it must be cool to view a game like that, to be that excited. On a retarded scale of 1-10, I can get up there sometimes but never like this.

 

[Wraith Phantom]

it must be cool to view a game like that, to be that excited. On a retarded scale of 1-10, I can get up there sometimes but never like this.

Well there is something for everyone.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Some xbox fanboys here are not trusting Xbox officials that Halo Infinite is built from the ground up to take full advantage of Xbox Series X, but that "representative of Xbox Series X" according to xbox officials is struggling at 4K with missing assets, VRS downgrading the resolution severely down to 720p partially, disappearing assets, slow LOD streaming, extremely low quality distant graphics, non-interactive foliage, bad lighting and shadows, extreme pop-ins.

If the "representative of Xbox Series X" is powerful/efficient enough it won't be using severe VRS downgrades to help sustain 60fps at such poor IQ.

How could this look on OG Xbox One?

 

[onQ123]

Microsoft is smart & Series S will be the lowest hanging fruit when kids want to play the free Halo game on a new console now that Xbox One SAD & Xbox One X is discontinued. Add a new Minecraft & some other games & the holidays will be good for MS for the next few years.

 

[Knitted Knight]

Due to severe game quality starvation, I can understand his reaction.

Dude actually made a dog sound... that's some effort. Mad respect!