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Microsoft are going to announce The Acquisition of SEGA next Wednesday (Believe!)
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HoodWinked
Gold Member
man if they call it the sega xbox in japan they may actually sell a few.
Wandering Leopard
Member
Apart from Phantasy Star, which I've heard very good things about, what else are Sega doing these days.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
"....worsening conditions reduced the profitability of Sega's Japanese arcade business, prompting the closure of 246 locations ...."
"...(October 2, 2009). "Sega to Close Arcades, Cancel Games, Lay Off Hundreds"
"...June 28, 2012). "Sega to close five European, Australian offices" ..."
Sega is literally a SHELL of what it once was.
Why did this strike a nerve with you?
You obviously weren't there for the worst of it, as a sega fan watching Sega move from an industry giant to mostly a third party publisher
was rough. Most of their "Arcade" business now is gambling machines.
There's no doubt that they aren't the powerhouse they were in the '80s and '90s, but SEGA has been on something of an upturn since the early 2010s. With the arcade/FEC stuff, you have to keep in mind that this COVID stuff REALLY hit public service businesses particularly hard. Arcades/FECs the world over were affected as a result (and IMHO, for no good reason).
Also, in terms of actual output they've been on an upturn since 2017. SEGA World Drivers Championship and House of the Dead: Scarlet Dawn were both very well received and doing well for FECs. The new Daytona a bit less so, at least initially at launch, but they did update it afterwards to fix issues. I think they also released a new Transformers arcade game, too. Not everything from them's been pachinko or redemption; in fact they actually cut down on the pachinko stuff A LOT a few years when they got more autonomy from the Sammy side (because that's the kind of stuff Sammy really wanted to do).
So no, SEGA's not a Japanese "treasure" to the point where the Japanese government would prevent a foreign company from buying them out, but they're also not in some completely bad-off state, either. Modestly healthy (aside from the recent arcade shutdowns in Japan because of, again, COVID), tons of IP lots of people are nostalgic for (a lot of which various gamers still engage with today, especially in retro scenes), and a lot of good fits for where it seems MS want to go with their gaming business strategy going forward.
Guess we'll find out what's happening on this on Thursday.
iJudged
Banned
are you serious? That's the most absurd thing I have ever heard! I LOVE IT
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Is this completely false then? They seem to have not done great since 2014 with the exception of 2017...Incidentally, Sega has been doing better and better over the last several years. For a "Sega fan" you don't seem to know much about Sega.
Sega Sammy profit 2023 | Statista
In the last fiscal year that ended March 31, 2023, Sega Sammy reported a net profit of 45.9 billion Japanese yen.
www.statista.com
They should call the Xbox a Sega Saturn X or Dreamcast X in Japan, I'd have to import a unit just for that even if I never used it lol
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splattered
Member
To be honest i would be happy if they just secured a large back catalog of games available on gamepass to subscribers... i might even pay a small amount extra each month for that depending on what was included. (I'm talking large collection of genesis games, saturn, dreamcast, etc)
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PSYGN
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Clever
Arachnid
Member
It's possible. Sega has half the net worth Bethesda does and 1 bil less than Zenimax. It's definitely not a question of money. More a question of if they're even open to the sale.
EDIT: It's also worth noting that I know fuck all about how this acquisition stuff really works, so there's likely subtleties/details I'm missing that make this unlikely.
What big IPs does Sega own other than Sonic?
EDIT: It's also worth noting that I know fuck all about how this acquisition stuff really works, so there's likely subtleties/details I'm missing that make this unlikely.
What big IPs does Sega own other than Sonic?
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Robot Carnival
Member
that would be an interesting get for MS if true. I don't think they really want to try cracking into JP market again thou. it's pretty much been proven that it's all Nintendo and Sony over there and they don't really care about what MS is focusing on. if they really are getting Sega, it's probably more for their titles and possible future projects that can come from it.
as someone who plays both on PC and PS, this might be more of an issue than the Bethesda purchase, since there actually are a few of Segas titles I like on PS. but we'll see I suppose.
as someone who plays both on PC and PS, this might be more of an issue than the Bethesda purchase, since there actually are a few of Segas titles I like on PS. but we'll see I suppose.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
I mean, just because MS bought ZeniMax doesn't mean that kind of scale of buyouts is something they're willing to do every day now, just as they weren't willing every day before getting ZeniMax to make that kind of impact with the announcement.
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Dolomite
Member
Exactly how I feel
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
Yeah Retro Sega console game support in gamepass with enhancements would be awesome.
loktaiextatus
Member
Someone is moving the goalposts.
Also false. Sega owns and operates tons of traditional arcades, with video games and without a single pachislot in them.
Incidentally, Sega has been doing better and better over the last several years. For a "Sega fan" you don't seem to know much about Sega.
There are no goalposts, I just said a hyperbolic "all" regarding their arcade closures. You grabbed onto it because youve got some kind of
weird chip on your shoulder.
You ignore the last 20 years of Segas history to say they're doing well... and doing well in what role? As a third party publisher.
I didn't engage with you, friend. You got triggered by hearing the truth- Sega is not what it once was, The very fact that Sega
had merged with Sammy and that Sega is now believably acquirable demonstrates that I am right.
"...and without a single pachislot in them."
Someone's sensative.
So if I said "I used to have like 1000 houses now I have 100... and I just lost the biggest one I had" Youd say I was doing WELL?
L O frickin L.
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loktaiextatus
Member
I never said they were shutting down, I am just saying they're not iconic and that Japan has no nationalistic desire to hold onto their ownership. If Nissan can be bought by france ans China can walk in and buy half the country I dont think they'd care if MS bought Sega, t hat was my entire point.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Plot thickens : D
That can't be a coincidence.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
There are so many different shades there it'd be hard to not find the same. There are probably several more, darker and lighter than that bit. Not saying it's not related but I doubt they went to a random sonic picture to get the color tuned exactly so it looks identical on a photo of the product.
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HUELEN10
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You huelen’d that good.Plot thickens : D
MarkMe2525
Member
Dude..... It may be real. If a console manufacturer were to buy Sega, it's best for everyone if it's MS.
KingT731
Member
The strategic partnership between Renault, Nissan and Mitsubishi is not a merger or an acquisition. That would be the difference.
Ash Sparrow
Banned
I just won the internet
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Aggelos
Member
Microsoft should buy MindGeek, so that the porn industry and VG industry can finally co-exist in one space.
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Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
Hyperbole = falsehood.
Saying that Sega is not iconic in Japan means having never been in Japan once in one's life. Their brand is visible basically everywhere in Tokyo right now as it has been for decades.
because someone on 4chan who doesn't know the right dates of the TGS events and thinks Asobo is a Japanese company says so? Your definition of "believable" is certainly very elastic.
L O frickin L.
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JLB
Banned
LOL, this is really good
Schmick
Member
SEGA was originally an American company.
Dabaus
Banned
If Microsoft bought sega, id say sony is in deep, deep trouble. The Zenimax purchase alone has tremendous Implications. But a one two punch just like that? Insanity. In some ways sony has no one to blame but themselves. They couldve owned square soft back in the day and let fromsoft ware slip through their hands too.
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
anothertech
Member
That 50$ price drop doe
The Alien
Banned
Another rumor from 4chan. this rumor though was floating around for decades, Microsoft need a Japanese studio for the Japanese market, they are going first in the next Tokyo Game Show this Wednesday, will they finally confirm this old rumor?
This video explains the long history of Microsoft with SEGA
Edit: a hint from Xbox??
Nope...that controller isnt Sega blue.....its Sony blue. Microsoft to buy Sony (mic drop).
Rhazer Fusion
Member
How so, especially being a Japanese company?
Man I've been in those. Some of the loudest places on earth. I'll never understand Japanese people and the type of games that appeal to them. But yes COVID is tailor made to finish off a industry sector such as the arcade business.Just this month, Sega closed down two of it's most famous arcades in Akihabara (Mostly due to lack of tourism).
Financial trouble?
MarkMe2525
Member
Read the thread. Sega is Japanese/American. It's also just speculation.
MarkMe2525
Member
"May" be real.You guys can't be that gullible...
May be just buy the IPs? I don't think the talent that made Team Andromeda or Sega AM2 is still working there.
Even Yuji Naka went to create Balan. Smart man.
loktaiextatus
Member
They arent even worth what Bethesda was.
You know when you repeat things someone else said... it kind of makes it glaringly obvious what part hurt you the most.
You turned the LOL back because you subconsciously perceive it as a weapon because you felt hurt.
The reason is because you know you're a prick picking fights for no reason, while cherry picking whatever little tidbits you can
to resurrect your dead point.
And an ADVERTISEMENT in a big city doesnt make something iconic sir. If thats all it takes I guess you think Planet Fitness is "iconic" because
they have a bunch of locations and everyone wears their hats in times square (because they sponsor it)
Or lets go a step further.. I guess you think GRASSHOPPER is an iconic phone company .... If you dont then youve never once been
to the USA because they have ads all over cities.
L O goddamn L again.
Genx3
Member
MS is just doing what Sony has been doing since they launched the Play Station line.
The only difference is its on a larger scale but its the same thing.
Anyone that was ok with Sony buying out devs and exclusives that has a problem with this is just being hypocritical.
The only difference is its on a larger scale but its the same thing.
Anyone that was ok with Sony buying out devs and exclusives that has a problem with this is just being hypocritical.
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PresetError
Neophyte
It would be very rare for a japanese company to acquired by a foreign company but at this point I expect anything to happen.
lock2k
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