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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
Well that's an overreaction.
Jooxed
Gold Member
you’ll all be okay. Believe it or not the community goes beyond the next gen thread cesspool.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Then you're even less funny than I am, because the majority of this community finds the juvenile and unironic console warring beyond annoying.
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Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
I don't care about any of your squabbles.
My thread making privileges have been revoked for 3 months which is a penalty that doesn't fit the crime. I've had no representation, no communication from those in power, no path towards clemency has been detailed. This is unjust!
I'm Jean Valjean. Sent to prison for 10 years for stealing a piece of bread.
My thread making privileges have been revoked for 3 months which is a penalty that doesn't fit the crime. I've had no representation, no communication from those in power, no path towards clemency has been detailed. This is unjust!
I'm Jean Valjean. Sent to prison for 10 years for stealing a piece of bread.
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Ah yeah, looked into it the other day but it was set via custom permission. Privileges restored, use wisely.
Fake
Member
No U
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
-Arcadia-
Banned
Really sad to see two people seemingly leaving over, it must be said, not getting what they want.
Putting a question to you, if being called on the warring BS makes you feel this bad, imagine how the rest of us felt for most of the year, when we could hardly get a word in edgewise on stuff we genuinely wanted to talk about, without all of you acting like ten year olds, even getting hostile over the slightest thing? Quite a few people just stopped posting/as much on gaming side, because you just would not stop.
A little perspective.
Worst possible response. I continue to maintain that I hate the behavior, not necessarily the posters behind it, which often have a lot to offer.
Get over yourselves a bit. Take it to that Console War Thunderdome thread and have fun. But yeah, that isn’t what you want to do. You want to astroturf for a console, 24/7, to the exclusion of everyone else’s fun. Well, too bad.
That however, doesn’t mean people don’t still want the rest of you, sans the immature theatrics here, and that you won’t be missed.
Putting a question to you, if being called on the warring BS makes you feel this bad, imagine how the rest of us felt for most of the year, when we could hardly get a word in edgewise on stuff we genuinely wanted to talk about, without all of you acting like ten year olds, even getting hostile over the slightest thing? Quite a few people just stopped posting/as much on gaming side, because you just would not stop.
A little perspective.
Worst possible response. I continue to maintain that I hate the behavior, not necessarily the posters behind it, which often have a lot to offer.
Get over yourselves a bit. Take it to that Console War Thunderdome thread and have fun. But yeah, that isn’t what you want to do. You want to astroturf for a console, 24/7, to the exclusion of everyone else’s fun. Well, too bad.
That however, doesn’t mean people don’t still want the rest of you, sans the immature theatrics here, and that you won’t be missed.
nush
Member
People you don't need to report because you know they are going to shoot their own dick off within a week.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
When a console warrior regardless of the side they stand on gets banned, the ONLY people coming in here and mourning/objecting to it happen to be those peddling the same brand of bullshit. You'd think that would be enough of a hint that the majority of the community can't stand them. But no, they're just having fun, it's everyone else that's shitting on their parade.
Ornlu
Banned
Stiflers Mom
Banned
Except for Bryank75, where it's the other side rooting for him..
Seems he is really shit when it comes to console warrior stuff.
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DonJuanSchlong
Banned
The mods ain't playing around.
"Anyone else want some?!"
"Anyone else want some?!"
Happosai
Hold onto your panties
I think given the age demographic of GAF, those in bait threads, speculation, etc should be help to a certain amount of mental maturity. Many of those who came here last night (pretty late, I was asleep while all this was going on) and requested account bans could have easily avoided that by signing out and coming back in a couple days after they were more calm.
I see a lot of posting in the heat of the moment of a thread lock, ban warning, or something similar and they immediately escalate the issue. Which begs the BIG question I have: So, this is a gaming forum with great standards, but video games are a luxury not a necessity in life. So, why do people get so emotional over something superficial and material when there are bigger things to be concerned with in life right now?
Mods here have a sense of humor and mercy too with members. Since I've been here, I've seen at least 3 popular users get unbanned (from a perma) and they've made the site better. Why? They're acting more mature or simply not letting things get to them like
Cunth
who can laugh off literally anything and make it funnier. For the next person who's considering jumping in this thread to request a ban, why not take
JareBear: Remastered
as an example of how to have a meltdown in this thread properly. Yeah, he got pissed. But he simply walked away. His account hasn't been banned and he had a great reputation here. I still think he'll come back (possibly after the new consoles launch). I don't recommend walking away -- we like having everyone here in the community and
-Arcadia-
was right a few pages back about how it's not fun seeing people get banned. Cool down, take a few days off, come back, and don't take anything on the internet personally.
-Arcadia-
Banned
I think given the age demographic of GAF, those in bait threads, speculation, etc should be help to a certain amount of mental maturity. Many of those who came here last night (pretty late, I was asleep while all this was going on) and requested account bans could have easily avoided that by signing out and coming back in a couple days after they were more calm.
I see a lot of posting in the heat of the moment of a thread lock, ban warning, or something similar and they immediately escalate the issue. Which begs the BIG question I have: So, this is a gaming forum with great standards, but video games are a luxury not a necessity in life. So, why do people get so emotional over something superficial and material when there are bigger things to be concerned with in life right now?
Mods here have a sense of humor and mercy too with members. Since I've been here, I've seen at least 3 popular users get unbanned (from a perma) and they've made the site better. Why? They're acting more mature or simply not letting things get to them like
For the next person who's considering jumping in this thread to request a ban, why not take
That's what
Bo_Hazem
was saying. I totally agree with both of you. In the heat of the moment, you are not in the right frame of mind to make these decisions.I'd encourage anybody to take a step back, think about it from other perspectives, and just chill for a bit.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
I think it's healthier to give 1-6 months ban instead. Most of those requesting self bans will regret it, not because you can't survive outside GAF, but because this forum has many great people that we have some sort of bound to them and enjoy their company.
I mean, permabans feel like "digital" deaths in here.
I mean, permabans feel like "digital" deaths in here.
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The Mad Draklor
Member
Thank god. For the past few days or so, a bunch of users would jump in this thread to flaunt their persecution complexes and it's beyond annoying.
DogofWar
Member
Ban requests are weird indeed, a tip to the people requesting bans:
Just take a break and do something else for a while. Whenever I get frustrated by internet arguments or whatever I just leave and walk away. There is nothing to actually gain from such things after all.
And don't log back in until you feel like it, if you are really pissed then taking a few months off a community can do wonders. I have seen it happen in a lot of forums over the years and when people finally return they tend to have an even funnier time than before.
Just take a break and do something else for a while. Whenever I get frustrated by internet arguments or whatever I just leave and walk away. There is nothing to actually gain from such things after all.
And don't log back in until you feel like it, if you are really pissed then taking a few months off a community can do wonders. I have seen it happen in a lot of forums over the years and when people finally return they tend to have an even funnier time than before.
The Bloody-Nine
Member
It's gotten so bad I rarely enter threads in the gaming forum now. They all descend into console warrior bullshit. I can't believe these are real people.
nikolino840
Member
I've never had a warning..i'm curious if someone have ever reported one of my posts
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
I just reported this oneI've never had a warning..i'm curious if someone have ever reported one of my posts
*fapping sounds*
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Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
You are good. I don't know why anyone would report you(except forI've never had a warning..i'm curious if someone have ever reported one of my posts
Xaero Gravity
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I report you all the time for not enough console warrioring!I've never had a warning..i'm curious if someone have ever reported one of my posts
But seriously, lots of us have been warned or temp banned for going over the edge having fun. Simple. Just tone down, don't talk back like this is People's Court with Guy#1 talking back to Judge Wapner, and don't do dumb shit like alt-accts or whining like a baby on this thread.
If you look at the permabans half of them are spammer bots, and the other half are either go straight to jail gross stuff like posting dumb porn or hailing hitler halocausts, or actual users who have been multi-warned (+++) but keep going.
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Lunatic_Gamer
Gold Member
Dear
Mod of War
,
Bill O'Rights
I’m reaching out because I’ve been reply banned on the Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Speculation/Analysis/Leaks Thread.
I’m still not really sure why. The reason been given to me doesn’t make any sense. I wasn’t even given a warning. I’m not a fanboy or console warrior. I’ve both next-gen consoles pre-ordered. I also game on Switch, PC and mobile. So it’s not like I have a secret agenda to push.
All I do is post news and speculations to keep the conversation going.
So could you please look into this situation for me?
I’ve been a part of that thread since the beginning pretty much. Now that the thread is nearing its end (since we got the PS5 tear down) I would like very much to still be a part of it.
Thank you
Mod of War
,
Bill O'Rights
I’m reaching out because I’ve been reply banned on the Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Speculation/Analysis/Leaks Thread.
I’m still not really sure why. The reason been given to me doesn’t make any sense. I wasn’t even given a warning. I’m not a fanboy or console warrior. I’ve both next-gen consoles pre-ordered. I also game on Switch, PC and mobile. So it’s not like I have a secret agenda to push.
All I do is post news and speculations to keep the conversation going.
So could you please look into this situation for me?
I’ve been a part of that thread since the beginning pretty much. Now that the thread is nearing its end (since we got the PS5 tear down) I would like very much to still be a part of it.
Thank you
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darkangel-212559
Banned
I'd like to ask a legitimate question regarding bans on console warring.
Where does the line between a heated disagreement and console warring start and end?
Cheers mods
Where does the line between a heated disagreement and console warring start and end?
Cheers mods
GymWolf
Member
I did because your avatar look stupid.I've never had a warning..i'm curious if someone have ever reported one of my posts
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Fuck your avatar, just tried to wipe it off my laptop screen AFUCKINGGAIN.People you don't need to report because you know they are going to shoot their own dick off within a week.
Well played.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
A life without console warring isn't a life worth living
Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
Who says you can't console war?A life without console warring isn't a life worth living
Console War Thunderdome |OT| We Don't Need Another Hero
WELCOME CONSOLE WARRIORS TO THE THUNDERDOME! Use this thread to war against the plastic box you dislike the most. Don't like Sony? This is your place. Think Xbox has no games? Grab your favorite meme weapon. Two warriors enter, one warrior leave!
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Slings and Arrows
Banned
The Hamburglar
Banned
So longdi finally got banned for his marketing. How long for
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
Dear
I’m reaching out because I’ve been reply banned on the Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Speculation/Analysis/Leaks Thread.
I’m still not really sure why. The reason been given to me doesn’t make any sense. I wasn’t even given a warning. I’m not a fanboy or console warrior. I’ve both next-gen consoles pre-ordered. I also game on Switch, PC and mobile. So it’s not like I have a secret agenda to push.
All I do is post news and speculations to keep the conversation going.
So could you please look into this situation for me?
I’ve been a part of that thread since the beginning pretty much. Now that the thread is nearing its end (since we got the PS5 tear down) I would like very much to still be a part of it.
Thank you
Probably something to do with the literal marketing posts if I had to guess
Lunatic_Gamer
Gold Member
German Hops
GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief
Are you actually involved in some payola scheme or what?That was the reason yes. Even though I’ve posted similar pics containing Xbox and PC games in the past. But I do get how that might’ve come across.
You can tell me, it's just between us.
Jon Neu
Banned
I guess this is the thread about moderation, so I rather put the question here and not derail that thread and win me another ban.
That's nice and all, but is this protection available to NXGamer alone? Because whenever a DF thread pops up and it's filled with pages and pages of people claiming conspiracies, bias, accusations and even personal insults against the people at DF, I have yet to see something done about it. And it happens literally in every DF thread.
So I'm genuinely asking: what's the approach to this type of threads?
That's nice and all, but is this protection available to NXGamer alone? Because whenever a DF thread pops up and it's filled with pages and pages of people claiming conspiracies, bias, accusations and even personal insults against the people at DF, I have yet to see something done about it. And it happens literally in every DF thread.
So I'm genuinely asking: what's the approach to this type of threads?
Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
Agreed. How are posts like this allowed?
Lunatic_Gamer
Gold Member
Nope. No involvement with any gaming company. I just love the content that Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony create and not just the plastic boxes they manufacture.
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notseqi
Member
They are allowed to be reported, you all know this. Mods aren't patrolling threads with an Iron Fist.
Take responsibility, report the offending post and move on if you are not willing to engage or plainly call the person out.
If it's egregious enough something will be done, you have to give some pointers by reporting though.
Shits me that people come here whining all the time. How is this allowed? We're letting it happen, that's why it's allowed.
You can drive drunk all the time, if nobody does anything about it and you don't crash too hard you're gonna be fine.
Jon Neu
Banned
That entire thread is filled with what
Bill O'Rights
condemned in the NXGamer thread. And it's already in page 9.Why is there such a disparity in the approach to both threads?
We're not going to talk about DF in an NXGamer thread. You can't see reply bans in most cases, but yes posts like this are likely to earn reply bans. Earn enough reply bans, then it's a ban. People derailing early in the thread are likely to be bit harder. For instance were you reply banned for this no one would know, but your post would likely still be reported subsequently. That's why many of you probably think 'nothing is happening' when it is, and why you see so many bans on the ban page with [+multiple] tags. For instance, no-one knew that Lunatic_Gamer had been removed from the next gen thread did they? But they had been. Can you tell me what you have seen done in the Xbox runs hot thread? As there were twenty reply bans issued. Does that mean because you didn't see it, then nothing was done? Stop working on assumptions, conspiracy theories and just chill out. Use the ignore button. Don't brag about how you're all tough enough to avoid using the ignore button then cry to the mods about seeing things you don't like. They don't complement each other. If you get emotionally affected by reading things, use ignore. Its the easiest thing to do.
If you want to discuss the legitimacy of an outlet or any perceived bias you are welcome to do so in a dedicated thread that has credible accusations/examples. But the constant derails about this, xbox series S resolution etc. in other threads are going to be clamped down on. And those who are are daft enough to be provoked and also derail threads for multiple pages are likely to be collateral damage. If you escalate, you're part of the problem. We don't need immature shriekers getting red faced because they read something about a plastic box that upsets them. No one wants to read fanboy bickering for pages.
What I'd genuinely ask back is, why is it always the same people who are involved in this behaviour? From both camps? Why can so much of the forum behave like rational adults except a minority? Why can you all see what console warring is yet Bernkastel hasn't reported your post in the NXGamer thread? Why is it that Sony fans reporting Xbox fans don't report other Sony fans? You all obviously know what childish console warring is, and are able to identify it - so why don't you report/pick examples from your own 'side'?
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Jon Neu
Banned
I'm not a reporting kind of guy. I know I've been massively reported myself and I tried for a while to play by those "rules", but it's simply not something that I like.
And this is obviously not about one or two messages, it's much more bigger than that. So reporting or not it's irrelevant.
If I engage with people and call their bias and hypocrisy out, I get banned. So either I come here and ask what's the official modus operandi or either I ignore what happens, but in that case, I rather not be on GAF at all then.
That's why I'm here trying to not let it happen, to ask why is there such a disparity in how the threads are moderated when is a DF thread vs an NXGamer thread.
You talk about whining. Well, if I try to do something in a straight to the point confrontational way, then I'm an antagonistic asshole and I get banned.
We sure talk a lot about NXGamer in DF threads though.
I'm sure there are people getting bans eventually, but I have never seen a mod come into the first page of a DF thread and advise everyone that they will be deposed of the thread if they indulge in conspiracies, bias talk and all -something DF threads are always FILLED with-.
And I just don't understand why NXGamer has that almost inmediate protection while the DF threads are filled for pages and pages of conspiracies, bias talk, jabs and insults. I'm sure maybe some of those people are getting some type of punishment down the line, but the thread itself still it's open for the same behaviour to be done, so it's a vast difference already.
What?
I don't have to use the ignore button and that doesn't have anything to do with me being "tough".
I'm not spouting any conspiracy theories here, I'm just stating the fact that the DF threads are being moderated in a way and the NXGamer one of this morning had the luxury of being moderated differently. That's not a conspiracy, it's literally what happened. I'm not accusing anybody of a bias, but I simply want the moderation to be aware of that disparity and tell me that DF threads and NXGamer threads are going to be subjected to the same rules and standards, whatever those will be.
Can you link me to some other NXGamer threads that have a mod note on the first page, as it is so prevalent and such an observable bias? Also, the Digital Foundry thread you are talking about was certainly derailed by one set of fans indeed. Read that first page and can you tell me who is responsible for ignoring the content and derailing it immediately and trying to score points? You say you're not into conspiracy theories, yet are picking one outlier where a mod was available to quickly course correct as a clandestine conspiracy, that we are standing with a barricade in front of NXGamer. If that were true, would we not be reply banning you for this, or Senua for this, or MrFunSocks for this?
Jon Neu
Banned
I literally mentioned the NXGamer thread of this morning.
One thread. The one of this morning.
What I'm saying is that after seeing so many DF threads moderated in one way, seeing the NXGamer thread (singular) being moderated in such a different way, it's clearly both odd and unfair to the way those previous DF were moderated.
And I just want a clarification on what is going to be the official approach to these type of threads in the future, so we all can play with the same rules, be either a NXGamer thread or a DF thread. I just did it in the hope of bringing awareness to the mod team that there is a disparity that shouldn't happen anymore.
But no, I'm not accusing anyone of some conspiracy, I'm just trying to bring awareness to something that maybe you haven't put that much thought into.
I don't think I can explain it more clear with my english skills. Please, understand.
notseqi
Member
I am pretty sure that has never been the reason why you got banned, it was for way more infantile stuff than that. And how could you be banned if you present your argument well and argue the point without attacking that person?
You don't do that. You argue from your position, which is Xbox iirc, and then try to shit your opponent.
Straight to the point can be 'I don't like what you did there' or 'fuck you for being like this'. Posters here that got warned or banned always point to the other side and say 'But he...'. Childlike.
Jon Neu
Banned
So you want me to confront people on their bias but at the same time want me to not get banned for attacking people for their bias.
Do you think when you call someone on it's bias he reflects on himself and says: thank you?
Calling someone on it's bias it's hardly an invitation for a conversation, but it's normally the start of an arguing and a pissing contest. Especially in this forum.
And let's not forget: there are far more Sony fans here than Xbox fans. FAR more.
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