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[Izumar]

I went looking for a DF video about the teardown and was surprised there wasn't one. NX Gamer proved that there was plenty to say about video.

Can you do me a favor and link me his series x 20 minute tear down video? I searched his channel and couldn't find anything, he tags every video with series x it seems.

All of his xbox vids I found were him playing games in the background and talking over. I'm looking for one with Rich in the background right? I would like to watch it.

 

[FrankWza]

I cannot help that they hurt your feelings.

I’ll be cool, don’t worry. Got a PS5 coming....I’ll be liquid cool.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

It amazes me sometimes how some console warriors get such a victim complex from the tiniest things, even though their favorite toy typically dominates every gen.

 

[Aguero9320]

I’ll be cool, don’t worry. Got a PS5 coming....I’ll be liquid cool.

 

[Enjay]

DF salty over not getting a free PS5 ahead of launch. News @ 11

 

[FrankWza]

you’re so bad at comprehension, you don’t even understand what you write yourself.

Liquid metal is not new or interesting to anyone. It won't make any difference to the console. If it helps to keep it quiet that's good, but quiet should be expected. Don't think DRAM was mentioned in the Sony video was it? I have no doubt it will be covered if it has any effect (and is actually confirmed, which I haven't seen?), but how can they know? Sony hasn't sent anyone anything to analyse, so DF are quite right to wait until they have something substantive to add.

Bowing out here, as I am aware I am contributing to the continuation of this paranoid, pointless and perplexing thread.

 

[NoMoChokeSJ]

Of course they are gonna do a video about it. Thats not really the point of this thread.
The point is a) Alex is a cunt b) DF as a whole are salty because they did not get a PS5.

Yeah I bet they are super salty about not getting a PS5 when nobody else has gotten one either... . So Salty....I'm not thinking they are the salty ones... Do you guys even read what you are complaining about? It makes sense to not do a teardown video on a console without...... You know.... Having the console to tear down. Like I said before... Whining.

 

[CAB_Life]

I think it's worth it. I figure they can easily get 300-500k views in a week or so.

The longer they don't make one the stranger it looks, as these digital media outlets live on clicks and views.

Umm, if I recall correctly, DF were invited to MS’ headquarters months prior to any hardware reveal and allowed to personally initiate and film a teardown video.

So there’s no conspiracy unless you want to continue down the path of paranoia and ask why your beloved console maker—I’m assuming one— didn’t extend the same courtesy outside of a highly curated event with some Japanese influencers who were brought there only to say nice things about a machine without any technical insights whatsoever. Obsequious flattery does not amount to a teardown or offer relevant information, sorry.

One company is obfuscating, and I doubt you’d be able to pick which.

I’m not a cheerleader either way (and historically a PS gamer), but I’ll be damned if ya’ll aren’t forcing me to trot out facts that defend DF’s and MS’s practices regarding these consoles and their respective reveals.

 

[Orky]

Isn’t analysis of what Sony did with the teardown the whole purpose of their existence? I’m sure I have seen teardown videos from them in the past.

Anyway, unsubscribed. I thought they were for real hardcore techies.

no. They are mainly focused on software. Like how many FPS and what res a game has etc.

 

[Dr.brain64]

He right tho

 

[TLZ]

no. They are mainly focused on software. Like how many FPS and what res a game has etc.

No. That was only back in PS360 era. That changed a lot later.

 

[Enjay]

Umm, if I recall correctly, DF were invited to MS’ headquarters months prior to any hardware reveal and allowed to personally initiate and film a teardown video.

So there’s no conspiracy unless you want to continue down the path of paranoia and ask why your beloved console maker—I’m assuming one— didn’t extend the same courtesy outside of a highly curated event with some Japanese influencers who were brought there only to say nice things about a machine without any technical insights whatsoever. Obsequious flattery does not amount to a teardown or offer relevant information, sorry.

One company is obfuscating, and I doubt you’d be able to pick which.

I’m not a cheerleader either way (and historically a PS gamer), but I’ll be damned if ya’ll aren’t forcing me to trot out facts that defend DF’s and MS’s practices regarding these consoles and their respective reveals.

Good to see you've gotten to the letter O in your thesaurus.

 

[Soulblighter31]

Can you do me a favor and link me his series x 20 minute tear down video? I searched his channel and couldn't find anything, he tags every video with series x it seems.

All of his xbox vids I found were him playing games in the background and talking over. I'm looking for one with Rich in the background right? I would like to watch it.

that guy is one of the sony warriors. He thinks sony is at the forefront of technology and has the best games. If you ignore all the other platforms in addition to not knowing what you're talking about i can see how sony is at the forefront of technology, yeah

 

[Redlight]

No. That was only back in PS360 era. That changed a lot later.

I do't believe that to be true. Would you have any links/examples?

 

[Mr. PlayStation]

PS5 teardown happened for some days already and DF did nothing to cover the Sony event.
While they keep doing videos about old games nobody cares.

When asked why the reply:

I think the word that triggered most of the folks was "rather uninteresting".

 

[Lysandros]

I don't blame DF, to be honest.

Sony have treated western journalists and content creators like shit recently. Constantly left in the dark.

Yes by not sending them freebies and not feeding their eurocentric egos.

 

[IfuckinghateReddit]

These cunts really are full of themselves.

 

[Panajev2001a]

Umm, if I recall correctly, DF were invited to MS’ headquarters months prior to any hardware reveal and allowed to personally initiate and film a teardown video.

We are aware that historically MS gave them access, way more than Sony did and that comes with strings attached from pre-release HW (you know those NDA’s that say you should refrain from making negative remarks that could position the product under a bad light, etc...).

One company is giving them pre-release exclusive access and the other one is not... IMHO it shows in Leadbetter’s reporting even if it were only for the fact that they cannot afford to be cut off from MS/lose access... another bit could be personal inclination and it might be a bunch of things contributing tothe “good news or bad news tempered by hope and positivity as a future outlook” vs “bad news or good news tempered by a but/cynical outlook casting some doubt on the whole thing” reporting they have done on XSX and PS5 since the first rumours started (see how they deal with the PS5 has software RT for so long as they did).

They did plenty of videos on a lot less quality material than the PS5 official teardown and they did plenty of reaction videos.
Not bothering to appear professional and impartial in public (Battaglia’s “uninteresting” adjective on a public popular forum is not helping him) at this point is also odd yet telling.

So there’s no conspiracy unless you want to continue down the path of paranoia and ask why your beloved console maker—I’m assuming one— didn’t extend the same courtesy outside of a highly curated event with some Japanese influencers who were brought there only to say nice things about a machine without any technical insights whatsoever. Obsequious flattery does not amount to a teardown or offer relevant information, sorry.

One company is obfuscating, and I doubt you’d be able to pick which.

Both companies sent the consoles to influencers and/or people that could only highlight positive aspects or neutral aspects of the console, but you are free to point out the tons of details you get in XSX’s teardown by Leadbetter because he does it that you could not get from either Sony’s video or NXGamer coverage of it.

DF - XSX teardown


Sony’s PS5 teardown


NXGamer PS5 teardown coverage

 

[Connxtion]

including dram on their drive and Microsoft did not.

Speculation, we don’t know if MS or Sony added dram to the SSDs, just because someone circled a little black chip (could be dram) doesn’t mean it’s fact.
Also we haven’t seen what’s under the MS SSD shielding.

This is exactly why people need hands in with hardware, but then you get tied into NDAs So we will just need to wait till release for all details of the system to come out. (Both systems)

 

[Evilms]

Microsoft needs to go through DF to have better visibility.

Sony doesn't have one and never needed one as their latest teardown video shows it's that simple, the brand is very very popular worldwide.

 

[sinnergy]

Microsoft needs to go through DF to have better visibility.

Sony doesn't have one and never needed one as their latest teardown video shows it's that simple, the brand is very very popular worldwide.

Not that it applies directly . So was Nokia and blackberry...
anything can happen with a brand if times change.

 

[Panajev2001a]

Not that it applies directly . So was Nokia and blackberry...
anything can happen with a brand if times change.

Sure, but beyond wishful thinking, not sure how it relates to what was said there.

Edit: to be fair you did state it did not relate quite clearly... so yeah, just adding that to remind people that Sony indeed could crumble. Yes we get it .

 

[just tray]

We should give both Sony and Microsoft credit for what they were able to pull off with the China Virus wreaking havoc across the world.

 

[Handel]

The teardown was uninteresting, but Sony fanboys went jacking off to a logo reveal so it's no surprise they're butthurt about this.

 

[Mr. PlayStation]

Also, it almost sounds like Alex B is butthurt that DF weren't invited to PlayStation HQ to do the teardown themselves. Sounds like entitled shit from them.

 

[just tray]

But the size of that thing. Yikes! Other than that I'm more interested in next Holiday Series X and PS5 or a PS5 slim

 

[Nitty_Grimes]

Well they would say that wouldn’t they...

 

[UnNamed]

And they didn't cover my favourite console yet, the Amico. Stop pissing off Intellivision fan, you bastard.

 

[Three]

Lol you really took his comment to heart. Tbh, I watched it as well and there was nothing very exciting about it. There was no context or breakdown, it was "here is the gpu, here is the cpu, here is the ssd controller". Again, this is on Sony. I like Sony btw and in the grand scheme of things, non of this will matter. Just my observation and opinion.

Didn't really take it to heart. Just saying how I see it.
The breakdown/analysis would usually come from DF the video itself was of the type DF themselves have made putting a console back together. They have made breakdown and analysis videos on CGI trailers in the past even. Him saying it wasn't interesting is just him being salty that he wasn't sent one that's all. He shouldn't even responded to those asking him to create specific content but by replying he showed his salty bullshit response.

 

[TLZ]

The teardown was uninteresting, but Sony fanboys went jacking off to a logo reveal so it's no surprise they're butthurt about this.

Sure sure. A nextgen machine is uninteresting at all, of course.

Keep going guys. Only your favorite console is interesting. Everything else doesn't matter.

 

[The Hamburglar]

Alex is huge Xboy is it surprising he said that?

 

[Orta]

This thread is no different to the kind of shite on PaedoEra when they go off on one of their cancel crusades.

 

[Nitty_Grimes]

When did these guys become the de facto tear down authority anyway?

 

[hemo memo]

When did these guys become the de facto tear down authority anyway?

Because they are the de facto industry games performance analysis authority.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Care to give actual quotes of this?
I remember Bo_Hazem made a thread that they were full of shit about the supposed 1440p resolution.

Yes, they don't have evidence to back their claims, it's a mental stunt as it seems. DS could be reconstructed from lower res, which if it is then it's vastly superior to DLSS 2.0. SIE issued an AI image reconstruction patent lately:

Possible PlayStation 5 DLSS-Like Image Reconstruction Tech Revealed By New Patent

A patent that has been recently filed by Sony a while back, but only recently published, reveals DLSS-like tech possibly for PlayStation 5 use

wccftech.com

But the image itself is showing 4K, whether it's native or reconstructed Sony/Bluepoint didn't comment yet as it seems there are some NDA's tied to RDNA2 reveal later this month and they don't wanna spoil something, I guess.

The Art of Pixel Counting: How can we tell what resolution a game is rendering?

First, how to pixel count according to Digital Foundry: With the new games shown so far, it seems pretty hard to spot aliasing/hard edged lines for such a method. That's why DF previously stated that they need to come up with a new way of comparisons. Maybe you can't have an exact 100%...

www.neogaf.com

 

[McCheese]

I agree with DF on this one, their knowledge is mostly about software and rendering methods, i don't know what they could have added to the teardown video.

But it seems odd from a views/traffic perspective, it's clear lots of people wanted a DF narrative video of it, so they sort of left money on the table here, other channels have done worth while videos on it without being hardware geniuses.

The "halo looks bad cos shadows" guys should probably stay off forums to be honest, he's making DF look bad by bumbling his points across.

 

[CAB_Life]

Good to see you've gotten to the letter O in your thesaurus.

Ad hominem attacks (especially ones that attempt to attack someone for having a command of the English language?) are the last gasp of the desperate and those devoid of arguments and dignity.

There’s some “D” usage for you. Were I more degenerate, I could definitely delve further into the letter, but I‘ve got things to do.

 

[NXGamer]

Can you do me a favor and link me his series x 20 minute tear down video? I searched his channel and couldn't find anything, he tags every video with series x it seems.

All of his xbox vids I found were him playing games in the background and talking over. I'm looking for one with Rich in the background right? I would like to watch it.

You are not that naive are you?

If I took video from DF and just used it to talk over, they or MS would claim it. As it is theirs to own, rightly so. The same as they or anyone did that to me (which people on YT do, more often that I realised).

Sony do not and as such, I can do a video on it, as can DF if they wished to.

Nothing special here, and why on earth do I keep getting dragged into negative comments or positive ones about DF?

Always yeah DF are X but NX is Y, what have I got to do with this argument!

 

[CAB_Life]

You are not that naive are you?

If I took video from DF and just used it to talk over, they or MS would claim it. As it is theirs to own, rightly so. The same as they or anyone did that to me (which people on YT do, more often that I realised).

Sony do not and as such, I can do a video on it, as can DF if they wished to.

Nothing special here, and why on earth do I keep getting dragged into negative comments or positive ones about DF?

Always yeah DF are X but NX is Y, what have I got to do with this argument!

You’ve been unwillingly positioned as the shining bastion of (PS5) console analysis in the Great Warz of 2020. Honestly this is all so sickening to see grown men attack each other—warring for corporations over their plastic toys—when there’s real problems in the world. Pathetic, actually.

You do amazing work, btw, so that wasn’t a diatribe on you.

 

[phil_t98]

We are aware that historically MS gave them access, way more than Sony did and that comes with strings attached from pre-release HW (you know those NDA’s that say you should refrain from making negative remarks that could position the product under a bad light, etc...).

One company is giving them pre-release exclusive access and the other one is not... IMHO it shows in Leadbetter’s reporting even if it were only for the fact that they cannot afford to be cut off from MS/lose access... another bit could be personal inclination and it might be a bunch of things contributing tothe “good news or bad news tempered by hope and positivity as a future outlook” vs “bad news or good news tempered by a but/cynical outlook casting some doubt on the whole thing” reporting they have done on XSX and PS5 since the first rumours started (see how they deal with the PS5 has software RT for so long as they did).

They did plenty of videos on a lot less quality material than the PS5 official teardown and they did plenty of reaction videos.
Not bothering to appear professional and impartial in public (Battaglia’s “uninteresting” adjective on a public popular forum is not helping him) at this point is also odd yet telling.



Both companies send the consoles to influencers and/or people that could only highlight positive aspects or neutral aspects of the console, but you are free to point out the tons of details you get in XSX’s teardown by Leadbetter because he does it that you could not get from either Sony’s video or NXGamer coverage of it.

DF - XSX teardown


Sony’s PS5 teardown


NXGamer PS5 teardown coverage

but one company has not done that or invited the journalists to Sony HQ to have a play about with it

 

[phil_t98]

Alex is huge Xboy is it surprising he said that?

he is actually the PC guy lol

 

[cormack12]

If I took video from DF and just used it to talk over, they or MS would claim it. As it is theirs to own, rightly so. The same as they or anyone did that to me (which people on YT do, more often that I realised).

Sony do not and as such, I can do a video on it, as can DF if they wished to.

Nothing special here, and why on earth do I keep getting dragged into negative comments or positive ones about DF?

Sadly you are the poster boy for one side of the army. The bolded is interesting though, so you could do the Sony video because you were confident they wouldn't issue a strike against you?

 

[Panajev2001a]

but one company has not done that or invited the journalists to Sony HQ to have a play about with it

As if that was anything more than a publicity stunt come on. Are we still trying to make some “concern” up by implying something sinister around not getting some outlets flown over?

Again, tell me what details we have gotten out of the HW that we missed because they did not buy a plane ticket and gave exclusive access to DF and got them to sign a please do not say anything negative NDA ?

You have the tear downs and the coverage of each posted above... what did Leadbetter offer there that we did not get otherwise?

 

[YeulEmeralda]

Does Sony even need these eceleb gamer culture clowns?

 

[Jaguar Victory]

Out of curiosity, if you've watched the teardown video, why do you need DF to retread that same ground? There is little nuance there as we've known all the specs.

Does Sony even need these eceleb gamer culture clowns?

No, they only need Twitter and forum warriors.

 

[rofif]

Out of curiosity, if you've watched the teardown video, why do you need DF to retread that same ground? There is little nuance there as we've known all the specs.



No, they only need Twitter and forum warriors.

I have no idea why this topic even exists. There is nothing to add to the Sony video. It's a fucking box with a pc inside. What else could df said. Ooo oh liquid metal. It's just like... 3 degrees better than thermal paste. That's all.
I really don't get Sony fanboy drooling about everything and getting mad that df did not made a video about something when they were busy with other stuff

Lol I would like em to make a video and comment how needlessly huge it is and ugly. That plastic crap stand is a great design too! Why would you need an additional piece of plastic to screw in in order to sit console in either direction... This one I am serious about lol.

I will get ps5 for sure but not this junk. I will wait for slim without stupid stand, smaller and no glossy plastic

(Now watch fanboys attack me )

 

[cormack12]

...why do you need DF to retread that same ground? There is little nuance there as we've known all the specs.

What they really want but won't admit is videos where people/outlets wank over the PS5. They want some weird sycophantic, fawning video and they dress it up as wanting technical analysis. There are some genuine people who want their thoughts in a very broad sense, but that's mainly what this thread is about.

 

[Riky]

Going to be hilarious when the XSX and PS5 comparisons happen.

Ps5 versions are same or better and reverse gear will be hammered as they hold up DF as a beacon of truth showing the SSD made up for everything.

XSX versions are better and they will claim that DF provides no "proof" they can count pixels, you know what they've been doing for years. That they have been paid off and biased or Microsoft have paid third parties to gimp PS5 versions.

It's going to be more interesting than the launch games themselves.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Sadly you are the poster boy for one side of the army. The bolded is interesting though, so you could do the Sony video because you were confident they wouldn't issue a strike against you?

PS and Xbox love you to use their videos, it's free marketing, it's part of creative commons licensing. If there is no soundtrack that needs further licensing like for trailers, you're good to go and they'll be more than happy you did. Only Nintendo Japan are retards in that regard, and I guess they've adjusted lately after the back clash.

 

[FunkMiller]

11 pages of comment, when it really just comes down to:

DF are free to talk about what they want on their YouTube channel.
YOU are free to not watch it if you don’t like the content they put out.

The same is true of every gaming YouTuber.

Simple. No point complaining, if you continue to subscribe and view their content.