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John from DF: No raytracing on XSX at launch (Update: “Oh, maybe it will then...”)

Hawking Radiation

Hawking Radiation

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Alebrije said:
Yep , that is why did not get Xbone Series X , they do not have next gen games , and for BC I am fine with my XboneX.

Meanwhile by november 12 I will get Demons Souls with Ray tracing.

This happens when you do not have exclusives and hope Microsoft put to work all its lazy studios to show something next gen.
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I was very close to getting Series S. Got approval from my missus and everything lol.

Then I started doing research on Series S and what the console will be capable of. Turned up 1 stinking gameplay video of Series S running Dirt5 at 120Hz and nothing else. The information on this console is non existent. Like yeah I know it won't do full 4K and i'm cool with that and if i'm buying it I would then be buying a console not based on what it can do but what it may 'POTENTIALLY' do and backed out of getting it seeing as there is only evidence of one game running on the damn thing.

I'm not buying console hardware based on hopes and dreams.
 
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Drewpee

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Agnostic2020 said:
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He then follows up by saying ms doesn't have much ready for launch.


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It is a bit weird after all that talk about RT and RDNA2 there will be no actual game releases to show for it.

Hope it gets patched in later.
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Very weird, if they have major issues with raytracing it is better to come out about it now compared to waiting until after the console releases. They were the company pushing rt as a major benefit but Sony has made them look terrible by comparison so far.

Not having raytracing at launch or soon after will definitely hurt their consumer first image because it will be seen as them hiding a major problem just to sale more consoles, which is exactly what they would be doing.
 
Stuart360

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I bet John is regretting saying something now. Honestly some of you are so on edge, its crazy.
I wish i could jump ahead 6 months so the console would already be out and old news. :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
Hendrick's

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If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Just because people are confused, these are the games that are coming out at launch that have said they will have ray tracing:

  • Bright Memory Infinite
  • DMC5:SE
  • Man Eater
  • Marvel's Avengers
  • Observer: System Redux
  • Watch Dogs: Legions
  • CoD: Black Ops
 
GreyHand23

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VFXVeteran said:
Yea, I'm thinking that both consoles weren't ready for RT and it was rushed after everyone complained that they may not have it in this generaion. I remember AMD saying that they wasn't going to make RT hardware until it was ready for all platforms. Then like 2 months later, they announced that the new consoles would have it. I wonder if they went ahead with the console development of it before the actual GPUs going into the PCs.
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Not surprised to see you try to attribute the same problems to PS5 as well. We've seen raytracing running on PS5 since June so you can stop with the FUD mister.
 
Bernkastel

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NoMoChokeSJ said:
So the plan is for everyone to just ignore him backtracking on his statement then?
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Its more convenient to spread FUD that way.
Hendrick's said:
Just because people are confused, these are the games that are coming out at launch that have said they will have ray tracing:

  • Bright Memory Infinite
  • DMC5:SE
  • Man Eater
  • Marvel's Avengers
  • Observer: System Redux
  • Watch Dogs: Legions
  • CoD: Black Ops
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To be frank DMC V:SE wont have RT on Xbox at launch and Bright Memory will be the launch title while Bright Memory Infinite is 2021.
 
VFXVeteran

VFXVeteran

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GreyHand23 said:
Not surprised to see you try to attribute the same problems to PS5 as well. We've seen raytracing running on PS5 since June so you can stop with the FUD mister.
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You misunderstand. I'm talking about the hardware in general. I have no doubt they both have RT but I never liked the idea of them not having separate cores. I'm not advocating that PS5 doesn't have RT. I also don't like that all the games so far only show 1 RT feature.
 
Papacheeks

Papacheeks

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Bernkastel said:
Watch Dogs Legion has RT, it literally mentions that in their website.
www.xbox.com

Watch Dogs:® Legion | Xbox

Build a resistance and take London back in Watch Dogs:® Legion.
www.xbox.com
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Never said that.

I'm saying seeing it running on series x/s has not been confirmed. ANd all videoes of gameplay footage of that title are from PC as far as I can tell. No watermarks of "running on series X/s."
 
VFXVeteran

VFXVeteran

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Hendrick's said:
Just because people are confused, these are the games that are coming out at launch that have said they will have ray tracing:

  • Bright Memory Infinite
  • DMC5:SE
  • Man Eater
  • Marvel's Avengers
  • Observer: System Redux
  • Watch Dogs: Legions
  • CoD: Black Ops
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Marvel Avengers? Where is the article on that?
 
kyoji

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The fools look even more ridiculous in the xbox power king thread now. . shitty end to current gen, and nothing ready for next gen? whats the excuse now? there's always an excuse right? right?? Damn.
 
digoutyoursoul

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SlimySnake said:
Where did i say all Xbox fans did this?

What a bizarre thing to get triggered by. I didn't even call them Xbox fanboys. Jyst fans. And you still got upset.
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“After all the nonsense about the PS5 having software RT than shadows only RT being spread by xbox fans,”

Which ones then? You talk about karma, it’s a games console mate that to some cost a fair bit of money to .

You say bizarre, what a weird thing to brag about. We are all gamers aren’t we? That’s why I said I was sick of this shit.
 
GreyHand23

GreyHand23

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VFXVeteran said:
You misunderstand. I'm talking about the hardware in general. I have no doubt they both have RT but I never liked the idea of them not having separate cores. I'm not advocating that PS5 doesn't have RT. I also don't like that all the games so far only show 1 RT feature.
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I mean that's really hard to judge AMD's approach until they show RDNA 2 fully on October 28. I think some games will go beyond just raytraced reflections, but as we don't have all of the details yet, I'm willing to wait and see. Microsoft and Sony only had one choice when it comes to hardware and that's AMD, so they have to go with what's available. Technology always advances so we could say next year would have been better for next gen consoles, but at some point you just have to go with what you've got and what you can afford to put into a $500 console.
 
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NoMoChokeSJ

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kyoji said:
The fools look even more ridiculous in the xbox power king thread now. . shitty end to current gen, and nothing ready for next gen? whats the excuse now? there's always an excuse right? right?? Damn.
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I think the fools in here look more ridiculous dog piling on a tweet that is contradicted by the person who posted it. And then ignoring it when it's pointed out like 8 different times.
 
Yoboman

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VFXVeteran said:
Yea, I'm thinking that both consoles weren't ready for RT and it was rushed after everyone complained that they may not have it in this generaion. I remember AMD saying that they wasn't going to make RT hardware until it was ready for all platforms. Then like 2 months later, they announced that the new consoles would have it. I wonder if they went ahead with the console development of it before the actual GPUs going into the PCs.
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Kinda sad you're trying to both sides it. But I guess when you spent months on pushing the agenda that PS5 doesn't have ray tracing, its hard to abandon it
 
Grinchy

Grinchy

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I've been saying they are clearly behind just based on their PR used car salesman tactics since January. And I've gotten lots of nice responses as a result. This has been clear to anyone who can read between the lines for a long time.

When they were pretending that generations no longer existed and that they wanted no xbox gamer left behind (for 1 to 2 years, then leave all those fuckers behind), it was clear that they just had nothing ready for those 1-2 years. They're behind and they're scrambling. They couldn't even get their own Halo game ready, so imagine other developers trying to get proper dev kits and scheduling things.
 
Hawking Radiation

Hawking Radiation

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Hix said:
Sure thing



And here's SonyGAF favourite NXGamer confirming it's RT


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Yeah this looks fucking alright for running on a budget console. Need more information, NOW.

1. What resolution is it running at ?
2. What are the framerates ?
3. What graphical features is it missing vs Series X ?

I need fucking MORE !!!!
 
Stuart360

Stuart360

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digoutyoursoul said:
“After all the nonsense about the PS5 having software RT than shadows only RT being spread by xbox fans,”

Which ones then? You talk about karma, it’s a games console mate that to some cost a fair bit of money to .

You say bizarre, what a weird thing to brag about. We are all gamers aren’t we? That’s why I said I was sick of this shit.
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Its really crazy at the moment isnt it. You feel like some users heads are about to explode. I have never known console warring as intense and tribal as its been the last 6 months or so. Not with 360/ps3, Snes/genesis, PS1/Saturn, etc.
I suppose the rise of social media over the current gen has something to do with that.
 
VFXVeteran

VFXVeteran

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Yoboman said:
Kinda sad you're trying to both sides it. But I guess when you spent months on pushing the agenda that PS5 doesn't have ray tracing, its hard to abandon it
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I'm not trying to both sides anything other than what I said about the hardware. You guys need to stop being so defensive. And I never said PS5 doesn't have RT. I doubted whether either system had hardware RT due to them not having separate cores like Nvidia. And that's not weird as I'm sure in the next generation of AMD, they'll introduce separate cores at some point. You can't have the SMUs do everything.
 
Azurro

Azurro

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VFXVeteran said:
You misunderstand. I'm talking about the hardware in general. I have no doubt they both have RT but I never liked the idea of them not having separate cores. I'm not advocating that PS5 doesn't have RT. I also don't like that all the games so far only show 1 RT feature.
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You are so transparent, lol.

On topic, even if some titles on Xbox SX have said they will have ray tracing, we have not seen any of them running on the platform.. actually we haven't seen any cross gen games running on it.

Somebody should tell MS they are launching a console in a few weeks.
 
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Swift Hunta

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Oh heavens no. What will my xbot fan boy ass ever doooooo. Please help me Sony bots...... who fucking cares lol? Is Ray tracing puddles really gonna make a huge difference. Probably not
 
Lone Wolf

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ZehDon said:
... you're replying to my post mocking you how over the top your post was. Not only does your meme not make any sense in context, it only applies to your post. Did you think this through, or are you always this out of touch?
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Just ignore him. He still thinks all Xboxes are overheating. He runs with narratives if they are anti Xbox, regardless of truth.
 
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