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Genshin Impact |OT| 4.0 (Fontaine) - Je m'appelle "la baleine"

InterMusketeer

Gold Member
Yeah I've been on Adventure Rank 45 for a while now. Seems most optimal for farming materials. My most used characters are all lvl 80, have lvl 80 weapons and are nearly maxed out in terms of talents. Now I just need better artifacts. I wish the bosses would drop more weapon prototypes too. I've played for hundreds of hours (I assume, I don't know if the game shows that info anywhere) and have only once received a prototype polearm from a boss (which happens to be the only type I don't need).

I got a message about a 'Stellar Reunion' event, and couldn't find out what type of event that is. Turns out you need to have stopped logging in for two weeks, which allows you access to the event and get some primogems and a sword. Kinda sucky that I can't get that stuff when I've been diligently playing every day.
 

BlackM1st

Banned
Turns out you need to have stopped logging in for two weeks
That's the normal practice for mobile games. Usually it happens around big updates. And sometimes bonuses for returning players are very nice. Imagine GI giving out free 5☆ char and lots of mats for leveling. Sounds crazy, but some games do that.
 

x@3f*oo_e!

Member
Maybe the devs should have put a quest on every WL increase to help players avoid the big jump from potentially skipping a WL. Unless you do the ascension quest right after it becomes available, you're probably going to end up skipping a WL when you actually get around to the Ascension quest. This happened to me with the first ascension quest and I was not really prepared to jump from WL 1 to WL 3. I learned from that mistake and was much better prepared when the next ascension quest popped up.

At the moment, there isn't a strong incentive to advance past AR45. There isn't any story/character content that requires a higher AR. The main things locked past AR45 would be ascending characters and weapons past 80, but the reason you would do that is so you can compete at the higher WL, so the logic for advancing becomes pretty circular.
I just realised I have not idea how this works.

I have an adventure rank quest to do ("emergency commision") to get my adventure rank level higher - I thought that was the thing that causes world level to increase.

I think I skipped a WL too.
 

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Pejo

Gold Member
I just realised I have not idea how this works.

I have an adventure rank quest to do ("emergency commision") to get my adventure rank level higher - I thought that was the thing that causes world level to increase.

I think I skipped a WL too.
So world level has 2 upgrades between each "cap" quest that you can manually do or not do.

The even (X0) AR levels automatically level up your world level as soon as you hit them, so like 30/40/50. The odd (X5) AR levels have a corresponding cap quest that you can use to hold the world level of your game until you're ready to break it (25/35/45/etc). If you choose to NOT break the cap at one of the X5 levels, then you still get and keep the AR experience, which is why my pic from earlier in the thread looks like this (at 140k out of 15k to next level):
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That means, as soon as I do the uncap quest for 45, that xp gets instant-tallied and I will gain all of the world levels until it runs out, almost definitely putting me over AR50 instantly, and skipping World Level 6 altogether. Hope that makes sense.

In other news, here are some hard numbers on artifact stats and which stats can drop on which pieces. This gives you a good idea of what you'll be eventually farming for and your % of getting what you want.

 

Miyazaki’s Slave

Gold Member
I am AR level 50 right now with two level 90's (well...two level 89...I don't think the investment is worth the next level) and various level 60 70 and 80's. I am not jumping my world rank yet either. I am lopsided (early Klee pull C0) in terms of my element damage and while I have a good spread of characters I don't have the artifacts, weapons, and ascension materials for those items to make a well rounded element load out.

I am not F2P, I purchase the battle pass each month ($9.99) and a primo gem monthly boost ($4.99). From the perspective of someone who played Wow for 8 years and is still playing FFXIV occasionally (about 6 years) the game really scratches my MMO itch and am spoiled by the access I have from various platforms.

I don't see myself upping my WR any time soon. I raced to AR50 so I could max gold artifact drops from domains. If you can stay at AR45 WR6 and don't mind the infrequency of 5* artifact drops that seems like a sweet spot.
 
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x@3f*oo_e!

Member
If you choose to NOT break the cap at one of the X5 levels, then you still get and keep the AR experience, which is why my pic from earlier in the thread looks like this (at 140k out of 15k to next level):
Yeah that sounds like what happened to me .. I couldn't beat an electrohypstatis in the dungeon in time, and forgot about the quest and did stuff in Liyue instead. Had a ton of exp. over the level threshold. When I finally did go back I gains multiple levels and everything went from 1-2 shots to a damage sponge again. It wasn't too bad but there was definitely a jump.

I got to the same position again, but when I went to the quest the party was ~15 levels too low, so didn't try. Probably should do it now
 

x@3f*oo_e!

Member
I'm guessing the AR50+ exp book problem will be solved by the next big update .. probably there will be a new type of experience book dropping (gold color maybe) from much higher level quests

So yeah - probably not best to grind past 50 at this point.
 
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SLoWMoTIoN

Unconfirmed Member
Man it is gonna suck when they FORCE you to be a higher AR to progress the story. (2 months from now)
 

deanote666

Gold Member
AR50 required for the highest level of 2 of the weekly bosses, not that the drops are that great anyway.

Think I've gotten one prototype in the last month (just hit AR50 this week). Didn't get all of the gold talent materials from the weekly bosses this week with the AR50 difficulty...

Someone I know went up to W7. Said the drops aren't any better. I'm AR50 and hanging out at W6.

Helping out a friend at AR20. It's fun being a god in their world, lol.
 
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Moochi

Member
It happened. I finally got C6 for Fischl and now Oz is like a electric flamethrower. F2P except for two battlepasses. Now debating whether or not to spend more wishes on the banner as I don't need another geo, and I'm ambivalent on Sucrose because I've got Jean.
 

Saber

Gold Member
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Exactly what I did. I've been level 45 for about a month now, give or take. I'm building up every character I have that I want to play as far as levels/ascensions/talents/weapons. Once I get them all maxed out (maybe not talents, we'll see), then I'll uncap and likely be blasted directly to AR55 and WL7. I wouldn't bother farming specifically for artifacts until you uncap 45 though, since every run at the higher level guarantees 1 gold artifact. I have a friend that uncapped 45 and the rewards they get are almost identical to the ones I get, outside of domains, so I see absolutely no rush to uncap.

Same here.

And might just add: my brother ascended AR. No fuck difference whatsoever in monster loots. Its as if he was on 45. They really need to give better incentive for people.
 
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Miyazaki’s Slave

Gold Member
Same here.

And might just add: my brother ascended AR. No fuck difference whatsoever in monster loots. Its as if he was on 45. They really need to give better incentive for people.
World Rank gives you better enemy/domain/ley line drops. Adventure Rank gives you Adventure Guild rewards and unlocks quests/character progression.
 
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Miyazaki’s Slave

Gold Member
When you ascend AR your WR increases -_-
Not every AR increase has an effect on your WR. Your world rank only increases at specific times. They both gate each other. IE I am at AR 50 right now but WR6. I cannot level my AR rank any higher (but I can still collect AR exp) until I increase my WR to level 7.

You can see the AR and WR ranks at the Adventure Guild. It will show you a list of all AR as well as the rewards you get for them. You can also see the locked WR progression requirements there as well.
 

Jedge

Member
I would argue that you should ascend your world level asap for the boss drops. Yes the basic mobs don't give much more but you will need a lot of talents to max your characters.

Especially for wolf talent materials - it scales based on world level.
WL6 the boss has a chance to drop 2 talent materials. WL7 I always get 2 per boss. WL8 there's a chance that it'll drop 3 from what I've seen.
 

Pejo

Gold Member
I would argue that you should ascend your world level asap for the boss drops. Yes the basic mobs don't give much more but you will need a lot of talents to max your characters.

Especially for wolf talent materials - it scales based on world level.
WL6 the boss has a chance to drop 2 talent materials. WL7 I always get 2 per boss. WL8 there's a chance that it'll drop 3 from what I've seen.
Fair point, but my reason for not ascending is because I'm building up a bunch of characters instead of focusing on 4. Their talents (except for my main carries), are usually sitting between 1 and 4, so I don't need any of those boss talent materials for some time yet.
 

Miyazaki’s Slave

Gold Member
...I'm building up a bunch of characters instead of focusing on 4.
Yeah exactly this. I should have waited and built up my overall cast of characters like you are doing. As it stands I am a beast when it comes to electro and fire damage but anytime I cannot use those characters my team is pretty worthless. I am having a laugh during this event because my pyro damage is bonkers....if this were the "Fire Mountain event" I'd be up shit creek because all my hydro and cryo characters are level 60 or below.
 

Pejo

Gold Member
Don't worry, you'll get there killing mobs.
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Wonder how many years of playing daily that would take lol. I am temtped to stop using xp books at 1 writ to next level to see how long it takes to just grind out that much.
 

Saber

Gold Member
Not every AR increase has an effect on your WR. Your world rank only increases at specific times.

Please dude, don't start playing smartass. I was talking about AR 45, if you ain't reading then don't bother quoting me.

I would argue that you should ascend your world level asap for the boss drops. Yes the basic mobs don't give much more but you will need a lot of talents to max your characters.

Especially for wolf talent materials - it scales based on world level.
WL6 the boss has a chance to drop 2 talent materials. WL7 I always get 2 per boss. WL8 there's a chance that it'll drop 3 from what I've seen.

Hmm for the bosses, yeah that would be a smart idea. I might also add that for players who characters account are 4 or less, would be more safier to ascend since you will need less books. And ascending characters to 90 requires tons of books.
But again, we are all at the mercy of randomness of the drops.
 
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Miyazaki’s Slave

Gold Member
Please dude, don't start playing smartass. I was talking about AR 45, if you ain't reading then don't bother quoting me.



Hmm for the bosses, yeah that would be a smart idea. I might also add that for players who characters account are 4 or less, would be more safier to ascend since you will need less books. And ascending characters to 90 requires tons of books.
But again, we are all at the mercy of randomness of the drops.

Wasn't being a smart ass, just trying to be helpful. Your post said "When you ascend AR your WR increases" just took the post at face value and thought maybe you did not know WR was tied to completing quests after achieving certain AR levels.
 

Fuz

Banned
Wonder how many years of playing daily that would take lol. I am temtped to stop using xp books at 1 writ to next level to see how long it takes to just grind out that much.
I constantly do this because at this point I'm sure I have some sort of weird autism type. Takes quite a while.
 
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Fake

Member
Wasn't being a smart ass, just trying to be helpful.

Enjoy.
 

MagiusNecros

Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Agreed…the amount of dandelion seeds, Cecelia flowers, and Jueyun Chili's I collect every Monday is clearly an indicator of some sort of "disorder".
I'm worse. I collect my Dandelions every time they respawn. >_>

Not to mention I have my map marked with all the Valberry locations...which is like 40 something.
 

Dragon_Rocks

Gold Member
So weird thing happened today. Not sure whether to be happy or not. Was trying to C6 my Fischl and ended up getting Albedo at 75th and some 80+ pull before 90. Why couldn't at least one of them been a Jean, Qiqi or Keqing. :messenger_neutral:
 

Saber

Gold Member
I'm worse. I collect my Dandelions every time they respawn. >_>

Not to mention I have my map marked with all the Valberry locations...which is like 40 something.

The BP aways reminds me to get them. But I think the most annoying ones are Violetgrass. Thankfully I have some easy places to farm plus a seller.
 

InterMusketeer

Gold Member
So weird thing happened today. Not sure whether to be happy or not. Was trying to C6 my Fischl and ended up getting Albedo at 75th and some 80+ pull before 90. Why couldn't at least one of them been a Jean, Qiqi or Keqing. :messenger_neutral:
Don't spin the gacha when you don't want the 5 star. That's the only way to hold onto your pity, and it'll only piss you off if you happen to get lucky. Learned that the hard way myself. I'm just saving up my primogems for a banner with a better 5 star. Though I fully expect to get Diluc or some shit when that happens.
 
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Dragon_Rocks

Gold Member
Don't spin the gacha when you don't want the 5 star. That's the only way to hold onto your pity, and it'll only piss you off if you happen to get lucky. Learned that the hard way myself. I'm just saving up my primogems for a banner with a better 5 star. Though I fully expect to get Diluc or some shit when that happens.

I didn't care about the 5* or pity. I just wanted C6 Fischl so the 5* was a byproduct. DIdn't think I'll get two 5* within 20 pulls so thought would have been nice if they were different ones. I am overall happy as I have C6 Fischl, C5 Bennet and C4 Sucrose
 
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InterMusketeer

Gold Member
As somebody that is F2P and has recently (at least it wasn't memebedo) gotten their second 5 star...yeah.
I'm honestly baffled people spend money on this game. 80~85% of all wishes done result in absolute garbage. That's not even taking into account personal preference. The odds are insanely bad. I can deal with it since I'm able to play a pretty cool game for free, but I'd be so pissed if I spent even a dime on these crappy rolls. Not to mention the insane amount of resin it'd take to get those characters up to snuff. It's like they don't want people to spend money, what with all the hurdles they put up.
 
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SLoWMoTIoN

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I'm honestly baffled people spend money on this game. 80~85% of all wishes done result in absolute garbage. That's not even taking into account personal preference. The odds are insanely bad. I can deal with it since I'm able to play a pretty cool game for free, but I'd be so pissed if I spent even a dime on these crappy rolls. Not to mention the insane amount of resin it'd take to get those characters up to snuff. It's like they don't want people to spend money, what with all the hurdles they put up.
TBF even if the rates were up I'd still stay F2P. I started my journey about 6 years ago with these kinds of games and I haven't spent a cent to date. Thank you whales. :)
 

Silvawuff

Member
I kept my AR at 45 and I’m sooooo glad I did. I have Traveler, Mona, Qiqi, Zhongli, Chongyun (C3) Xiangling, Bennett (C1) and Fischl (C5) at 80 with some decent artifacts and pretty good weapons between them, with some light talent leveling.

I normally run around with Mona/Fischl/Bennett/Zhongli, but I feel I can do better with my options. Suggestions?
 

BlackM1st

Banned
I kept my AR at 45 and I’m sooooo glad I did. I have Traveler, Mona, Qiqi, Zhongli, Chongyun (C3) Xiangling, Bennett (C1) and Fischl (C5) at 80 with some decent artifacts and pretty good weapons between them, with some light talent leveling.

I normally run around with Mona/Fischl/Bennett/Zhongli, but I feel I can do better with my options. Suggestions?
You benched Qiqi. Unacceptable.
 

Fuz

Banned
Enough primo for 70+ pulls here, but fuck Albedo and the Cocogoat. Gonna wait *at least* until Xiao, and only if he's OP as fuck. I'm hoping for a Diluc banner tbh.
Thank you whales
No, fuck whales. They're the ones responsible for this shitty business model and game design.
 

MagiusNecros

Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
this event sucks, buggy and terrible rewards.
Just do it solo. It's fine. For an event that doesn't use resin the rewards are pretty good. Especially if you like Festering Desire.

The boss is actually rather easy once you understand it's one trick pony AoE attack. Other then that it's no different from any other Regisvine.

Solo mode just has little slime adds.

Co-op has big slimes and Whopperflowers. Pretty sure the Regisvine is stronger too.
 
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BlackM1st

Banned
Just do it solo. It's fine. For an event that doesn't use resin the rewards are pretty good. Especially if you like Festering Desire.

The boss is actually rather easy once you understand it's one trick pony AoE attack. Other then that it's no different from any other Regisvine.

Solo mode just has little slime adds.

Co-op has big slimes and Whopperflowers. Pretty sure the Regisvine is stronger too.
My coop record is 1:45. Klee, Electric cat, QiQi and any other fire character. QiQi keeping us alive while we kill 50% of tree in the initial attack. Klee is always #1 DMG.

Easy. But without good healing it can be an annoying boss. Especially with idiotic spawning. Why would you load a new coop player right into a boss attack MiHo? D:

Also, fuck that challenge with 10 hits with Scarlet crystals.
 

MagiusNecros

Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I just use Jean for the most part. I can outheal most damage I take outside of the Regisvine's super AoE that it uses 3 times in a row before it goes on cooldown.

Pyro and Geo characters(particularly Ningguang) seem effective at breaking the Cryo health bar.

This fight hates casters. Too much move.
 

x@3f*oo_e!

Member
I wish they voiced the warnings about 'break the whatever-crystals' before the plant does it's arena-nuke - I think I keep missing them because I'm just getting text at the bottom of the screen.

I wonder if it's voice in cn/jp ? Seems like paimon should say something.

Maybe there's some other indicator I'm missing. ?

Also, fuck that challenge with 10 hits with Scarlet crystals.
really? I got a ton of mini-iceslimes that go down in a couple of hits. There were scarlet crystals everywhere -.. maybe they don't appear every fight?
 

Dregnel

Member
Just do it solo. It's fine. For an event that doesn't use resin the rewards are pretty good. Especially if you like Festering Desire.

The boss is actually rather easy once you understand it's one trick pony AoE attack. Other then that it's no different from any other Regisvine.

Solo mode just has little slime adds.

Co-op has big slimes and Whopperflowers. Pretty sure the Regisvine is stronger too.

i just bought the 20 books and mora i didn't want anything else.
I wish they voiced the warnings about 'break the whatever-crystals' before the plant does it's arena-nuke - I think I keep missing them because I'm just getting text at the bottom of the screen.

I wonder if it's voice in cn/jp ? Seems like paimon should say something.

Maybe there's some other indicator I'm missing. ?


really? I got a ton of mini-iceslimes that go down in a couple of hits. There were scarlet crystals everywhere -.. maybe they don't appear every fight?

you need to see the indicator but if you are too close to the flower you can't see when you need to destroy the crystal.
 

Saber

Gold Member
This event is pretty tame. Theres no punishment like the last one(meteor) and it doesn't use resins, which makes people continues with their current party until he/she is bored or had enought. I'm pretty fan of this one.

Also, I already did the collecting the red stuff during the fight. Not that difficult too because sometimes Regivine enters in his bitch mode and forgets to start the snow storm. Since I already did this challenge, I let my party members get the shards so they complete the challenge as well.


Anyone interested, just let me know. Glad to be of any help, my Xingling attack boost is awesome.


As a side note, Albedo banner gave me Beidou today lol
 
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