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The next 2 major Bethesda releases are officially Xbox console exclusives (Starfield and Redfall)

yurinka

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aren't exclusives those will come to gamepass for free after a while.
I may be wrong, but I bet they are added to Game Pass PC (if they have PC version, that I assume it's the case) day one. And then once the timed console exclusivity ends (1 year?) they would be released to Xbox and its Game Pass.

So “Xbox exclusive” is synonymous with not Playstation. You don’t actually need an Xbox at all and never will.
I'd say that for now is synonymous of 'not PlayStation at launch'. After some time, many 'exclusives' on both sides ended not being that exclusive and released in the other console.
 
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MilkyJoe

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PC is a Microsoft platform,
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They already did it with Minecraft Dungeons and said their strategy with Bethesda is 'first or best on Xbox' etc.

On top of that many games in different generations have been announced and marketed as 'exclusives' on both sides and some time after launch (or even before) ended being timed exclusives. So let's wait and see.
Na, it wouldn't make any sense. Why stop with Bethesda then? Why wouldn't they do the same with every other studio they have? I think Minecraft is an exception to the rule, but I'm pretty sure Bethesda won't.
 

Fredrik

Member
I may be wrong, but I bet they are added to Game Pass PC (if they have PC version, that I assume it's the case) day one. And then once the timed console exclusivity ends (1 year?) they would be released to Xbox and its Game Pass.
Yeah Ghostwire and Deathloop are releasing on PC, same day as PS5. I honestly think it’s dumb to not show it at the E3 event, they’ll be better on PC anyway. Right now people go around thinking they’re Playstation exclusives. Edit: Not important
 
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Chukhopops

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If people reply to old post giving me shit they're the ones waging war or trying miserably and looking rather pathetic. Enjoy your trash, and don't quote me to war or I'll give you war on your ass.
Cool story bro. The games are not even good. I beat Oblivion (100 hours) and Skyrim (over 60 hours). Very overrated games. Full of bugs, bad design, bad graphics, horrible animations, bad menus and inventory, garbage combat (cant emphasize this enough) poor progression and class variety, garbage narrative/dramatization, bottom-tier voice acting...the endings suck too! I could go on and on, but if you like that crap more power to you bro! Enjoy!
- plays game for 100 hours, way more than needed to finish it
- « man this is shit »
- sequel comes out
- buys it
- plays for 60 hours, way more than is needed to finish
- « man this is shit »

I‘m not a child psychologist but I think you actually enjoyed those games and are simply repressing feelings of grief and betrayal.
 

Fredrik

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Did anyone think otherwise? Lol
Lots of people did, there were several threads about it, many didn’t think they would leave all the Playstation gamer money on the table, including me. It always seemed like they dodged the details, never fully closed the door. But in the end I guess they thought it was enough to have the game on Xbox, PC and cloud, or maybe they simply waited to have a powerful first showing at E3.
 

sublimit

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Any reasonable speculation that Bethesda will continue multi-platform releases for major titles is now ended. Microsoft didn't glance over Starfield and Redfall exclusivity, they repeated and emphasized it. It's obvious now that this is their policy going forward, with any future exceptions being extremely limited, such as fulfilling contractual obligations made prior to the acquisition.
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Lol you are missing a tiny little detail though that both of them are new IPs. TES,Fallout,Doom etc are not so don't start crying if you see them coming to other platforms as well.

Personally i honestly couldn't care less if ALL their games were Xbox exclusive. Never liked any Bethesda or Zenimax game anyway. In fact i always hated TES for their terrible combat and their ugly characters (their soundtracks are the only really good thing about them) and i have no interest in ugly,cliche and boring RPGs like Fallout. As for Starfield and Redfall the first one is something that they still haven't shown any gameplay even though it's suppossedly coming next year (so you know it's going to be a mess) and the other one was just a CGI trailer of another co-op shooter with your typical "diverse" edgy characters. So yeah Xbox can keep them lol.
 
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MonarchJT

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Lol you are missing a tiny little detail though that both of them are new IPs. TES,Fallout,Doom etc are not so don't start crying if you see them coming to other platforms as well.

Personally i honestly couldn't care less if ALL their games were Xbox exclusive. Never liked any Bethesda or Zenimax game anyway. In fact i always hated TES for their terrible combat and their ugly characters (their soundtracks are the only really good thing about them) and i have no interest in ugly,cliche and boring RPGs like Fallout. As for Starfield and Redfall the first one is something that they still haven't shown any gameplay even though it's suppossedly coming next year (so you know it's going to be a mess) and the other one was just a CGI trailer of another co-op shooter with your typical "diverse" edgy characters. So yeah Xbox can keep them lol.
Phil added elder scrolls 6 as talking about exclusives....just yesterday.
 
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yurinka

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Yeah Ghostwire and Deathloop are releasing on PC, same day as PS5. I honestly think it’s dumb to not show it at the E3 event, they’ll be better on PC anyway. Right now people go around thinking they’re Playstation exclusives. Edit: Not important
Well, they shown many multiplatform games in the conference that will be released day one on PS5 (or even PS4) too, but I assume it was better for them to avoid these two because some fanboys would be mad to remember they will have to wait to see them on their console.

So I think it was smart to don't show them. At the end, everyone knows they are coming and already shown them several times so didn't have to show them again here.

Na, it wouldn't make any sense. Why stop with Bethesda then? Why wouldn't they do the same with every other studio they have? I think Minecraft is an exception to the rule, but I'm pretty sure Bethesda won't.
To do the same with every other studio they have at the same time would upset their fans. But if they first to it with Minecraft DLCs, then Minecraft Dungeons, then Ori, then Bethesda DLCs, then new games from the already existing and Bethesda/Zenimax IPs, some small game from Double Fine, some non-MS IP like Indiana Jones, after that some new IP or maybe an old known IP... their fans would slowly step by step accept them going full 3rd party in the same way they accepted to have zero exclusives and to see all their games being released day one on PC.

In the same way, Starfield can be a timed console exclusive and they can market it as "exclusive" until a year after release, once they announce and release it for PS5 and if someone complains they can say it was something they already had signed with Sony before the acquisition.

Phil added elder scrolls 6 as talking about exclusives....just yesterday.
Not sure if ES6 is going to be made by the same team than Starfield, but if it's the case, assuming Starfield doesn't get delayed and gets released late 2022, then I think we can wait ES6 to be released as next gen launch game (if MS releases another console).
 
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RJMacready73

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tbf anyone thinking that any future Bethesda game is coming to Playstation is a fucking moron, as much as id love to be playing Starfield & Elder Scrolls 6 on my PS5 i have to sadly accept my fate, then again i'm an fucking adult with half a braincell, some of these sony fanboys do need a good slap tbf
 
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SkylineRKR

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The wording wasn't clear but I never expected these games to hit PS5. They're not investing billions to let Bethesda release multiplatform, a thing they already did you know.

I guess the wording wasn't clear because there is still games coming to PS5 that were signed earlier.

For me its not bad. I also have an Xbox and I am very cautious of Bethesda games so trying them on GP is a rather safe deal.
 
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Duchess

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Meh. I'll just pick them up in several years time on PC when they're good and cheap, in some silly sale when they're going for $5 each.
 

sublimit

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he did. stop trolling the thread and accept the reality ..already yesterday you were ridiculed enough with the starfield and redfall exclusivity don't try to move the goalpost
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Are you delusional? Show me where he said that TES 6 is going to be exclusive lol.
 

MonarchJT

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Well, they shown many multiplatform games in the conference that will be released day one on PS5 (or even PS4) too, but I assume it was better for them to avoid these two because some fanboys would be mad to remember they will have to wait to see them on their console.

So I think it was smart to don't show them. At the end, everyone knows they are coming and already shown them several times so didn't have to show them again here.


To do the same with every other studio they have at the same time would upset their fans. But if they first to it with Minecraft DLCs, then Minecraft Dungeons, then Ori, then Bethesda DLCs, then new games from the already existing and Bethesda/Zenimax IPs, some small game from Double Fine, some non-MS IP like Indiana Jones, after that some new IP or maybe an old known IP... their fans would slowly step by step accept them going full 3rd party in the same way they accepted to have zero exclusives and to see all their games being released day one on PC.

In the same way, Starfield can be a timed console exclusive and they can market it as "exclusive" until a year after release, once they announce and release it for PS5 and if someone complains they can say it was something they already had signed with Sony before the acquisition.


Not sure if ES6 is going to be made by the same team than Starfield, but if it's the case, assuming Starfield doesn't get delayed and gets released late 2022, then I think we can wait ES6 to be released as next gen launch game (if MS releases another console).
sure it will release late in the gen also to exploit all the users accumulated over the years. Kind of like Sony does with the naughty games released right at the end of gen
 

sublimit

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ok saved this pair of comment for late gen crows for you when you will realize reality. The persistence of some people is absurd
Lol
You are either being delusional and hear what you want to hear or your English are very poor and you didn't unerstood what Phil "wait for next year" Spencer said. Just watch it again it's only 2 minutes and you'll save yourself from embarrassment.

TES or any other Zenimax game may end up being exclusive or it may be not. But yesterday he said nothing confirming one way or the other. In fact he said some time ago that Bethesda exclusivity will be judged on a case by case basis.
Starfield and Redfall being both new IPs and exclusive totally allign with what he said.
 

Relativ9

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I'm more curious what Sony is going to try and do to fill the WRPG void left by both Bethesda an Obsidian being Xbox exclusives. If they're smart they'll invest heavily in a studio to develop a huge WRPG to rival/compliment the known quantities. I'll play it all on PC like I have for the last 20 years anyway so it's no skin off my back, but it would be cool if this meant more diversity in the WRPG space.
 
There were a lot of Xbox and PC exclusives announced yesterday, some you wouldn't have thought would be exclusives.

The exclusive wars upon us, they are.
 

nikolino840

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The wording wasn't clear but I never expected these games to hit PS5. They're not investing billions to let Bethesda release multiplatform, a thing they already did you know.

I guess the wording wasn't clear because there is still games coming to PS5 that were signed earlier.

For me its not bad. I also have an Xbox and I am very cautious of Bethesda games so trying them on GP is a rather safe deal.
Maybe Microsoft thought that was better saying it on the e3 and not through a blog in Xbox wire
 

DavidGzz

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I am impressed, and alarmed, that you managed to hold onto this many posts for all this time, just to laugh in people's faces. I do the same thing, but with a written list of the names of everyone I've ever met who has crossed me in any way. I keep it under my pillow when I sleep.

It's pretty delicious and hilarious to see when people come in saying "who said otherwise?!" He's got the receipts.
 

Banjo64

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It had major issues but had stood the time especially with mods.

Besides the 2011 Skyrim...do you know what game/s have the Zenimax brands made that scored a 90+?
Um plenty from the last 2 generations?

Skyrim 96
Oblivion 94
Fallout 3 93
Dishonoured 91

The sheer number of high 80s is impressive too;

Fallout 4 88
Dishonoured 2 88
Doom Eternal 88
Wolfenstein 2 88
Doom 2016 87
 

MonarchJT

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Lol
You are either being delusional and hear what you want to hear or your English are very poor and you didn't unerstood what Phil "wait for next year" Spencer said. Just watch it again it's only 2 minutes and you'll save yourself from embarrassment.

TES or any other Zenimax game may end up being exclusive or it may be not. But yesterday he said nothing confirming one way or the other. In fact he said some time ago that Bethesda exclusivity will be judged on a case by case basis.
Starfield and Redfall being both new IPs and exclusive totally allign with what he said.
cases by cases was because the couldn't say everything will be exclusive seen that two games was coming to PS5 (timed). Bethesda is first party as Sony Santa Monica and naughty dog, And if that's not enough, the stupid narrative "Ms needs Sony userst hey can't keep games exclusive" immediately disintegrates using a minimum of the IQ that mother nature has given us ... Microsoft releases on day one on console, PC, Xcloud the userbase and reach that Microsoft has today, That's probably double what Sony can only hope for close to the end of the generation unless Sony decides to release the games on PC at launch (in that case the two things would be very balanced). If you also add that Microsoft is dozens of times richer than Sony and Sony keeps all its games on its console alone ... it should be immediately evident the idiocy of certain theories pushed only by Sony fanboys.And yesterday with the exclusivity of the new, bigger, and hyped IP from Bethesda .. it was finally the concrete demonstration. Sorry I didn't mean to be bad ... but you wanted it
 
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sublimit

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cases by cases was because the couldn't say everything will be exclusive seen that two games was coming to PS5 (timed). Bethesda is first party as Sony Santa Monica and naughty dog, And if that's not enough, the stupid narrative "Ms needs Sony userst hey can't keep games exclusive" immediately disintegrates using a minimum of the IQ that mother nature has given us ... Microsoft releases on day one on console, PC, Xcloud the userbase and reach that Microsoft has today, the ps5 will never have even at the end of the generation unless Sony decides to release the games on PC at launch. If you also add that Microsoft is dozens of times richer than Sony and Sony keeps all its games on its console alone ... it should be immediately evident the idiocy of certain theories pushed only by Sony fanboys.And yesterday with the exclusivity of the new, bigger, IP Bethesda .. it was the concrete demonstration I didn't mean to be bad ... but you wanted it
Wow great post you really showed me now!!!

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Desaccorde

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And the people here malding under this tweet shows how correct that decision was.



I turned into most anti-Sony person this generation because of their hypocrisy and arrogance. Fan base of Sony put me off so much I literally will skip the generation and borrow my brother’s PS5 to not spend a dime on their titles, which cost an arm and a leg in my country anyway. 1/4th the price of minimum wage for 1 Exclusive or 1 year Gamepass is a no brainer.

Sony to me feels like a boomer in zoomer generation, particularly with their hardware/software support balance. Couldn’t even push that VRR for their latest flagship TVs, let alone the previous generations that they promised. What a company they have become and I’ve supported their hardwares for years nearly in every category.

Good to see Sony’s getting a taste of their own medicine to be honest. At least MS is adament on PC side and games are not in a protected bubble zone like Sony’s.
 
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anthony2690

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And the people here malding under this tweet shows how correct that decision was.



I turned into most anti-Sony person this generation because of their hypocrisy and arrogance. Fan base of Sony put me off so much I literally will skip the generation and borrow my brother’s PS5 to not spend a dime on their titles, which cost an arm and a leg in my country anyway. 1/4th the price of minimum wage for 1 Exclusive or 1 year Gamepass is a no brainer.

Sony to me feels like a boomer in zoomer generation, particularly with their hardware/software support balance. Couldn’t even push that VRR for their latest flagship TVs, let alone the previous generations that they promised. What a company they have become.

I think due to the sheer size of the Sony fanbase, you come across a lot more unpleasant fans on here and twitter.

They will try to derail everything and downplay everything else that isn't on their platform and make silly outlandish claims.

Xbox definitely has unpleasant fans like that too, but I think due to the fanbase not being as big as sonys, they are less noticeable.

I remember Sony fans giving reviewers abuse over a positive review, because it wasn't a perfect review, it was genuinely bizarre.



Review in question, the reviewer obviously liked the game enough to give it a 9/10, but fans were angry it wasn't a 10/10, insane.

I personally dropped the game at Madagascar, hated the gunplay and found it really boring sadly, but I can definitely see the appeal of uncharted 4 for those that love the series.
 
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Majukun

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still can't understand how some people though it would be otherwise.
you don't throw that much money away and then just share with your direct competitor
 
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