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MS: Japan their fastest growing gaming market, strong popularity for the Xbox Series S
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MvCSpiderman
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DeepEnigma
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Just because Sony doesn't constantly chirp, doesn't mean they are doing nothing, "compared to." I am more than positive they are doing PS5 blades for their PSNow as well, plus the rumored PS3 emulation on those blades so down the road they are not breaking the bank to replace broken PS3 ones.
XSX will always be the more attractive model that is already way ahead in sales, but carry on. Yes, I know MS and all the big pubs want the dream world of us owning nothing in software, and subbing like people do for movies, but that is not going to be the major shift this gen, maybe next for them.
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lachesis
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Although I really want a lot of Japanese (not just major ones, but including minor ones) 3rd party games to be available, especially after a couple of years past release - to be available on GamePass, and wish them a good success in Japanese market...
But, I want to see receipts.
Like sub 4-500 esque sales per week, isn't something that's fastest growing.
Sure, they may have been selling 10 XB1s per week, and even 200 units per week, it's like 2000% increase in sales - but that doesn't mean that it's doing hardly any better.
I mean, technically yes they are doing better - especially when they don't take account of the competitions. It's like the failing student competing with his last semester's score vs the folks who are competing for Tokyo Univ...
But, I want to see receipts.
Like sub 4-500 esque sales per week, isn't something that's fastest growing.
Sure, they may have been selling 10 XB1s per week, and even 200 units per week, it's like 2000% increase in sales - but that doesn't mean that it's doing hardly any better.
I mean, technically yes they are doing better - especially when they don't take account of the competitions. It's like the failing student competing with his last semester's score vs the folks who are competing for Tokyo Univ...
Spidey Fan
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Nice words. But you still don't get it.
XsX is for hardcore. People who scream about graphic. I got One S, compared to one X. I find one S seems to be easy, cheap, and better looking than series X.
Series S now have the beauty of a console. The cheap price. XSX while better, isn't the same as Series S. The console is a tower, ain't no way a kid or a parent will buy that thing for their children over series S.
And as for your Playstation, currently there are 3m for psnow. I doubt they will use that much hardware console like Microsoft. Their plan first is to push as much console as possible to consumers, while Microsoft is heavily going for cloud, and pushing their products for their data center.
Both have different goals. Sony needs to have console roll out faster to meet the goal for next gen games (big games), while Microsoft main goal is Gamepass and Xcloud. They have pc, so they really don't care about how much console they sell.
Mitsuda Maniac
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They should just say how many XSS sold in Japan.
DeepEnigma
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Oh I get it. We seen this argument on here since it's announcement, and we know the PR sales pitch.
What you don't seem to concede to, is that they only produce one XSS for every 7-10 XSXs, and that is due to one losing money much more than the other (at the moment), and the fact that there is constant demand, supply constraints, and no signs of that slowing down at all... the gap between the two SKUs only continues to grow 7-10 to 1, daily.
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MacReady13
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They make money from game pass?!
MasterCornholio
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Well we can always look at the numbers and decide whether they look good or not.
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ethomaz
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Series S sells way lower than Series X.
And the Series S has enough supply while the Series X is most of time sold out.
That tells you a more about them market than your weird choice.
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Venom Snake
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Spidey Fan
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I tried
You are just saying a trillion dollar company is worried about their hardware sales. If they did, they would have shut down the xbox department long time.
The sku that is on public isn't the total they have made. Their goal was to out series X on Xcloud database. If you have you used that math, you wouldn't have embarrassed yourself.
Again, if Microsoft wanted to sell console only, they wouldn't have bothered with xcloud at all. And they would have had more consoles on the public.
Just today, they did 50k consoles for gamestop, that means their data base is almost full with XSX.
Spidey Fan
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They do. If you stopped counting the subs, and put your head in dlc, mtx, and game sales. Otherwise no.They make money from game pass?!
N1tr0sOx1d3
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Wonder why they never made a Blue Dragon sequel…..it was popular in Japan yeah?
akaFullmetal
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Let me know when they crack over 100,000 over there and then we can celebrate that at least.
Spidey Fan
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Its early birds, plus series is sold too after 1-2 days. 1st year are hardcore gamers, since casuals have their old gen console, like me. I have no intention of buying next gen now. No use for me. My old gen works fine, and I am not missing anything.
Oddvintagechap
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Xbox calling Japan their “Fastest gaming market” is so fucking hilarious.
Selling 1000 consoles is a 120394% increase.
Selling 1000 consoles is a 120394% increase.
MvCSpiderman
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XSX will easily pass Xbox One ~100k total there after the holiday, and will do better than ~400k Xbox1, becoming 2nd best selling Xbox console in Japan, but third best selling behind 360(1.6 mill) and 3DO (790k).
I think XSX will be 600k then 150k for S. S may be appealing now but it's just a charged up One X, it will not be able to handle most games as the gen goes on outside of streaming.
Best the thread title? Fast selling PR B's, dead country.
I think XSX will be 600k then 150k for S. S may be appealing now but it's just a charged up One X, it will not be able to handle most games as the gen goes on outside of streaming.
Best the thread title? Fast selling PR B's, dead country.
Bernd Lauert
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Xbox losing less money than Playstation because they sell way less consoles.
Bo_Hazem
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Jaguar Victory
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It's cute how you guys spin this into console wars when nary a soul has mentioned Sony or Nintendo. Growth in a market can happen independent of what others are doing.
Unknown?
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Perfect example on why to never listen to this guy. "BEST LINEUP IN XBOX HISTORY"
DeepEnigma
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Where did I say that?
What I am saying is the XSS will not outsell the XSX at all this gen, because we are almost 8 months in and it's still manufactured as a 7-10 to 1 tagalong and already so far behind. Unless MS does a complete 180 on their most popular model and swaps the output, not... gonna... happen.
Derktron
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Spidey Fan
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I misunderstood it, my bad.
The series X will outsold Series S in the first year, but after that, it won't. Early birds want X. The later bird (casuals like me) will get the S. And that is mainly the value of gamepass, and series S being cheaper. Once halo, Forza Horizon 5 releases, you will see the series S flying of the shelves. Microsoft knows that. That is was the reason they did the series S. Just for gamepass, while series X are for hardcore gamers.
Spidey Fan
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AlexxKidd
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All these Microsoft shilling writers and articles like to have a field day cause they know Microsoft is too embarrassed to release numbers so they hide behind that. It's all fun and games until they try to bring their shilling and spinning to Japan, where it doesn't work because the Japanese numbers are actually posted weekly for all to see. Try again.
DeepEnigma
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Bernd Lauert
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I enjoy Japan numbers too (see me arguing about Returnal sales lmao) but I think most of the growth is indeed with Gamepass, not the consoles themselves.
yurinka
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Bullshit. If that growth would be something meaningful to be proud of they would show the key numbers. They don't show them because they are embarassing, but maybe a bit less than last year. And if they try to make the PR spin with this is because the other ones are even worse.
Spidey Fan
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Jaguar Victory
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Dig deep and ask yourself why you give a fuck. They were asked a question and they answered. Do you seriously think Microsoft cares enough to trump up Japanese sales results?
yurinka
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Proper PS3 emulation of its main games is impossible on PS5 and current high end PCs, forget it. They'd need to introduce on it to make it happen.
No, in the article IGN isn't asking them what is their biggest growth market as if trying to brag about something, it comes straight from MS. The IGN folk decides to make an article and a headline about it.
Xbox series is performing worse in Japan than all the previous Xbox consoles launch aligned. It's embarassing to brag about growth when your current console is performing like this:
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Jaguar Victory
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All this contributes to making Japan one of the priority regions for Microsoft’s first-party localisation. “Microsoft Games Studios' first-party commitment is full localization for an important market like Japan,” Hinton explained. “That's our commitment moving forward, and that is a change from what we've done historically, where it's been made on an individual title-by-title basis. But we recognise for people to feel like a community and for us to grow into new places, we want to ensure a level of commitment and understanding.”
Hinton notes that localisation is proven to improve player numbers, noting that Microsoft saw a “direct lift” in the number of Japanese players jumping into Sea of Thieves following its localisation.
Im surprised they just figured out that more people buy your shit if you make it in their language. For being really smart Microsoft can be really stupid sometimes.
Hinton notes that localisation is proven to improve player numbers, noting that Microsoft saw a “direct lift” in the number of Japanese players jumping into Sea of Thieves following its localisation.
Im surprised they just figured out that more people buy your shit if you make it in their language. For being really smart Microsoft can be really stupid sometimes.
DeepEnigma
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No it's not. It wasn't until these Zen 2's where the PC front was having great success with them at native framerates and boosted 60fps+, ironically. The Tempest core is very SPU-like as well.
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Jaguar Victory
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Proper PS3 emulation of its main games is impossible on PS5 and current high end PCs, forget it. They'd need to introduce on it to make it happen.
No, in the article IGN isn't asking them what is their biggest growth market as if trying to brag about something, it comes straight from MS. The IGN folk decides to make an article and a headline about it.
Xbox series is performing worse in Japan than all the previous Xbox consoles launch aligned. It's embarassing to brag about growth when your current console is performing like this:
The article says they sell out same day. Seems to allottment issues as well.
AlexxKidd
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Who are you trying to fool with this? Not me I hope.
oldergamer
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will it pass the 360 tho? that had over a million
MvCSpiderman
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Read last post.
Zombie9ers
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So they sold 12 Xbox’s there this month instead of 2?
Jaguar Victory
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Did you read the article?
Spidey Fan
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News news. Home consoles outsolds foreign console. News news.Yup, they hate numbers, they always hurt.
I would have liked something like usa and UK, since those are where xbox home is. Especially in the USA.
On other hand, those numbers gotta hurt Microsoft.
