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Nintendo is firing on all cylinders right now and it's great to see after the Wii U era
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THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
This is the dumbest post I have seen a long time.
People who complain about Nintendo are idiots? How about you take a good hard look at the massive lack of actual Nintendo AAA since 2017 (don't count wii u games or re-releases or animal crossing). The fact that your playing on already underpowered 2015 hardware with no end in site is a-ok eh?
And an online service that's basically a joke?
I play switch all the time and love nintendos games, but please seek help for your nintendoitis.
blacktout
Member
The ability to find joy in art and games is always going to be fundamentally irrational. Being thrilled by pure technical performance is irrational too. It's all about what gets your brain to release the good neurotransmitters. My point was more that I wondered why people would be so dedicated to cynicism that they would still be here, nearly five years after launch, dunking on a console that clearly isn't for them when it's about to go in what looks to be one of its best years.
That said, if your argument against 2022 is that they're sticking to safe franchises instead of opting for riskier/weirder projects, that's completely fair. But Astral Chain and Daemon x Machina were pretty recent games, so I'm sure we'll see more projects in that vein in the future.
... What? I don't think we even occupy the same reality, because in the world I live in, the Series systems don't get their first major exclusives until this November and the PS5 is banking its holiday season on indie games, remasters, and Deathloop, a timed exclusive owned by their primary competitor. And, you know what, that's fine. They're both selling out everywhere and, all bitching on enthusiast forums aside, they seem to be well on their way to being huge succeses (just like the Switch).
Also, I didn't say that Switch had three "dry years," just that I could understand some people griping about those years based on their tastes. The only truly dry year for the Switch was last year, in the midst of a global pandemic, where their second half was pretty barren, but even last year the system had an exclusive that pushed like 30+ million units. (I sunk like 200 hours into Animal Crossing to keep the 2020 despair at bay. I'm not ashamed to admit it.)
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Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
'Firing on all cylinders'
Still has utterly shit online infrastructure and just made an utterly shit update to the console..
Still has utterly shit online infrastructure and just made an utterly shit update to the console..
Punished Miku
Gold Member
That's what gets their neurotransmitters going. Dunking online is their favorite game. More addicting for many than actually playing games with compelling gameplay until completion. You should have seen the tears when Bayonetta 2 got announced. Not a lot has changed.
This is basically every time Nintendo announces anything. Just wait until review scores come out for Breath of the Wild 2 vs. Horizon 2. Another full year of mass meltdowns incoming.
Supermjmt12
Banned
This is the dumbest post I have seen a long time.
People who complain about Nintendo are idiots? How about you take a good hard look at the massive lack of actual Nintendo AAA since 2017 (don't count wii u games or re-releases or animal crossing). The fact that your playing on already underpowered 2015 hardware with no end in site is a-ok eh?
And an online service that's basically a joke?
I play switch all the time and love nintendos games, but please seek help for your nintendoitis.
I never said the hardware is perfect dipshit, I said the games in the years 2017, 2019, 2021, and beyond are all great or looking great for future titles.
I meant people who still complain about the graphics of Nintendo are idiots because graphics hasn't been their main focus since the GameCube era, so why complain about it? Nintendo isn't gonna catch up to next gen hardware anytime soon so why cry about it? It's the gameplay art style that sells Nintendo games, that's why it's the best it's been in years
You obviously can't read, you're the one with the dumb post
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skneogaf
Member
I own a WII U but I've not felt interested in the switch one little bit.
I like the look of the handheld only switch though.
Plus I'd buy a console only switch with a proper controller
that is much more powerful.
To sum up :
I want a handheld and a console but not a hybrid.
Surely this is money making idea for Nintendo as they could have all 3 types.
I like the look of the handheld only switch though.
Plus I'd buy a console only switch with a proper controller
that is much more powerful.To sum up :
I want a handheld and a console but not a hybrid.
Surely this is money making idea for Nintendo as they could have all 3 types.
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Nautilus
Banned
Animal CrossingThis is the dumbest post I have seen a long time.
People who complain about Nintendo are idiots? How about you take a good hard look at the massive lack of actual Nintendo AAA since 2017 (don't count wii u games or re-releases or animal crossing). The fact that your playing on already underpowered 2015 hardware with no end in site is a-ok eh?
And an online service that's basically a joke?
I play switch all the time and love nintendos games, but please seek help for your nintendoitis.
Smash Ultimate
Kirby Star Allies
XC 2 Torna
Yoshi Crafter World
Super Mario Maker 2
Fire Emblem Three Houses
Astral Chain
Luigi Mansion 3
Pokemon Sword and Shield
Animal Crossing New Horizons
Xenoblade Chronicles Remake
Clubhouse Games
Paper Mario The Origami King
New Pokemon Snap
Mario Golf Super Rush
Mario + Rabbids
Hyrule Warriors Age of Calamity
Famicon Detective Club
Warioware
And I didn't include Wii U games and exclusive Third party games(or that were exclusive at some point)
And then we have Metroid Dread, Pokemon Arceus, Bayonetta 3, Kirby, BOTW 2, Splatoon 3, etc still comming.
Anyone saying that Switch doesn't have games to play, "AAA" or not, are just insane.
Derktron
Banned
And comments like these are a nice reality check that Neogaf is out of touch. This is why companies get away with the bullshit they do because PEOPLE LIKE YOU defend them and say otherwise and just because they are the biggest company in the gaming world doesn't mean people can't criticize them. I like Nintendo and love them because they represent my childhood but that doesn't mean I'm going to fully defend their practices. People have the right to like a company but also criticize them for what they do. So let me ask you this if this was Microsft would you say the same thing or if this was EA, or Ubisoft or Activision would you say the same thing that you just said?
Keep in mind I'm not trying to disrespect you or call you out but you have to understand that it's okay to like a company but also criticize them for what they do.
Is nintendo paying you or is this a pro bono shilling? Pokemon sword fucking blows.
Kataploom
Gold Member
I don't get why it is Nintendo's fault that people get TVs that will make Switch look bad... That's a complaint I won't accept.
I can understand power because of 3rd party AAA games (tho those won't still come due to Nintendo audience being too different from theirs), but the games looking blurry on your TVs because of it being 4K is something Nintendo have nothing to do with, I have a sub-1080p TV and I see all Switch games perfectly, I'll get a 4K TV whenever 4K content is cheaper (on PC and Nintendo consoles, the rest I don't care) and widely available.
The fact that SOME people are getting the lastest improvement on the market asap on their TVs is their problem, most people (and evidenced by Switch sales or base vs pro consoles sales) don't have that urge, they keep their big 1080p or even 720p TVs and that's it, that's why Nintendo don't feel the urge to make a 4K console, it's an unnecessary hasle even on 2021.
Reality is: The vast majority of people look their Switch games on their TVs well enough, be it because they don't care or because they don't urge to buy the lastest resolution improvement (for which content won't get standard for years if ever) that will make sub 4K/8K/16K games look bad.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
All this success(?), but my damned stock options have been stagnant for months and months now. Not much market confidence in growth at the moment.
MAtgS
Member
Why shit on Triangle Strategy? It's basically a new FF Tactics.This must be self persuasion.
I can understand you want to play those games, but Triangle Strategy? Brain Age? I can give you BOTW2 and Kirby (who look a lot like Mario 3D World imo), the rest isn't really my cup of tea nor big production (an expansion, a 2D platformer, Bayonetta 3 looking worse than 2....).
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ManaByte
Gold Member
I was hoping we were getting that when Miyamoto showed up in the Direct. But no, we got Chris Pratt and Charlie Day playing Italians.
Maybe we'll see Pikmin 4 next year when the movie is done and Universal has the theme parks done. Seems like those things are distracting him from games now.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Great point, those whiners should buy a second, crappy TV to use with their Switch. It’s their own fault for owning too nice a TV.
Kataploom
Gold Member
Do whatever you feel is ok, I'll probably stick to a 1080p TV for a while unless I can get a 4K with good upscaling but as most of my gaming is mostly 1080p I'll think of it whenever Nintendo releases a Switch succesor.
The thing is that most people with TVs in the world don't care about 4K enough to go and get another TV if they're happy with theirs, that fraction of 4K TV users complaining to Nintendo are literally asking Nintendo to ignore the vast majority of the market to make THEM happy lol
AutumnLeaves
Member
Let's not be premature. I hope it's half as good as FFT but let's see. Calling it another FFT is just...
CovidPacman
Neo Member
Fuck yea, Nintendo is killing it right now. Fuck those gaffer Nintendo hating mongoloids. They only come out of the ground in Nintendo threads.
Woopah
Member
I don't think Pikmin is held back by Miyamoto working on the movie. He's too senior to be directly responsible for any one game and has been for years.
The EPD team that does Pikmin last came out with Mario Maker 2 in 2019 so if it takes them 3-4 or so years to make Pikmin 4 then we should get it 2nd half 2022 or 1st half 2023.
MagnesG
Banned
Demo is great, and they've improved it, and I'm only calling FFT for its genre. While premature is dunking on a game just because of how ignorant they are.
I've not seen this wrote down on the interest before but thank you. This is something I've felt for a very long time.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
We can agree to disagree. I dont think Nintendo are idiots for not focusing on graphics generally, but I do think their lack of competition in the mobile space has allowed them to not push/advance thier hardware to increase profits. And while that's fine and well for them, you can't tell me teams as talented and amazing as Nintendo wouldn't be able to do even better I'm newer hardware. Imagine what a zelda game would look like on series x/ps5 hardware. I probably couldn't score it high enough!
It's all in the wrist
Member
Nintendo might be doing better than ever financially, but I haven't touched the Switch in about a year, other than some Smash Bros with friends.
Excited about Metroid, though!
Excited about Metroid, though!
AutumnLeaves
Member
More strategy RPGs is always good! I'm looking forward to it. It might be the one that makes me get a Switch.
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NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Gold Member
I haven't touched my PS4 since 2017 lol
Cutty Flam
Banned
The N64 is back. And a wireless N64 controller
I became a controller enthusiast ever since buying the Switch. Never knew I had that kind of interest in controllers before tbh. But the N64 controller is one of those controllers that just felt right to me. I always held it in such an u orthodox way too and still managed to compete haha. What a fun controller it is
I became a controller enthusiast ever since buying the Switch. Never knew I had that kind of interest in controllers before tbh. But the N64 controller is one of those controllers that just felt right to me. I always held it in such an u orthodox way too and still managed to compete haha. What a fun controller it is
Dream-Knife
Banned
I really hope we get Xenoblade 3 sometime soon.
Excited about BOTW2 next year, maybe Kirby.
This year is MHR and SMT5.
Excited about BOTW2 next year, maybe Kirby.
This year is MHR and SMT5.
Cutty Flam
Banned
What are your thoughts on it potentially releasing in 2023? I considered this, but not much. I think it might be possible that the game will be worked on until 2023
Punished Miku
Gold Member
99.99% likely. Probably will launch along with a new system, a new Mario, and a new Mario Kart.
Late 2023.
EruditeHobo
Member
I use my switch for a few Nintendo exclusives -- definitely getting Dread & Triangle -- and when there are good sales on specific cross-plat titles. When I want to play something handheld and the visuals aren't compromised by that, the Switch comes in handy. Recently got Celeste because of a sale, got blasphemous, Mummy Remastered, etc... a few other things.
When it comes down to it, it's just preference. It always comes down to that. These games just don't appeal to me, for the most part. People holding up Splatoon 3 and talking about wanting to play that for hundreds of hours... that's just someone not interested in what I'm interested in re: gaming. Wario Ware? Brain Age? Mario Party? Animal Crossing expansion? Hyrule Warriors or whatever? I can't believe people really care about buying and playing these, as I'd rather do literally any other leisure activity. I'd rather go sit outside in the sunlight for 15 minutes; I'd rather go exercise.
Bayonetta looks dated and bad. Kirby looks really boring. BotW is a crappy zelda game, I couldn't play it at all, so "BotW2" holds zero hype for me. But they are just going for a certain thing that I'm not that into, so it's not like you can call them "bad games". BotW in particular is clearly a very good game that's just not for me.
Until Nintendo make a higher priority of delivering modern visuals and some deeper/more sophisticated gameplay mechanics that look and play well on modern screens, I'm never really going to be back in with them fully. Which probably means we have just grown apart since the Wii and I'll never really be back, since they aren't really interested in what I'm interested in. And that's ok! Every once in awhile there will still be a good Mario game released -- I think there's been 4-5 really good ones, proper Mario games, over the past 25 years -- and when that comes out I will buy it. And that will be about it. I'm sure with their success they are happy with that tradeoff.
When it comes down to it, it's just preference. It always comes down to that. These games just don't appeal to me, for the most part. People holding up Splatoon 3 and talking about wanting to play that for hundreds of hours... that's just someone not interested in what I'm interested in re: gaming. Wario Ware? Brain Age? Mario Party? Animal Crossing expansion? Hyrule Warriors or whatever? I can't believe people really care about buying and playing these, as I'd rather do literally any other leisure activity. I'd rather go sit outside in the sunlight for 15 minutes; I'd rather go exercise.
Bayonetta looks dated and bad. Kirby looks really boring. BotW is a crappy zelda game, I couldn't play it at all, so "BotW2" holds zero hype for me. But they are just going for a certain thing that I'm not that into, so it's not like you can call them "bad games". BotW in particular is clearly a very good game that's just not for me.
Until Nintendo make a higher priority of delivering modern visuals and some deeper/more sophisticated gameplay mechanics that look and play well on modern screens, I'm never really going to be back in with them fully. Which probably means we have just grown apart since the Wii and I'll never really be back, since they aren't really interested in what I'm interested in. And that's ok! Every once in awhile there will still be a good Mario game released -- I think there's been 4-5 really good ones, proper Mario games, over the past 25 years -- and when that comes out I will buy it. And that will be about it. I'm sure with their success they are happy with that tradeoff.
Marty-McFly
Banned
This is simply out of touch. Nintendo games have the best gameplay mechanics in gaming.
Hugare
Member
EruditeHobo
Member
They definitely do not, whatever you're talking about is most assuredly not what I'm talking about.
Nintendo often have the most simplistic gaming mechanics in "AAA" gaming, they are just executed on a high level in many of their best offerings. But that's not what that sentence you bolded is referring to... I'm talking about the depth that comes from a good gameplay mechanic evolving over the course of the game, in one way or another, and having a marked impact on the way the game plays. That is what I mean by "deep gameplay mechanics".
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Cutty Flam
Banned
Almost think the same. Not that high of a chance, but I do think it could make some sense to have a 2023 release date. Not sure though. There’s just not enough info, it’s very deep into speculation that could determine a probable release date. But I’ll be super excited to see the game release next year. That would be holiday season of 2022 at the earliest I believe the sequel to BOTW will release. And it is a sequel so Nintendo has momentum going for them in some ways. So hopefully it is 2022
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Marty-McFly
Banned
BOTW has the deepest and best gameplay mechanics ever created.
Even more simple games like Mario, Smash or older titles like Wave Race are easy to pickup, yet difficult to master and perfectly honed, which is a hallmark of mastery in game development.
Nintendo is on such a different level on this front and this is why their ip have endured for decades.
EruditeHobo
Member
Gameplay systems aren't necessarily the same thing as gameplay mechanics... I agree BotW has complex game systems, but that doesn't always translate to great gameplay mechanics, or great gameplay in general. In fact I'd argue that some of BotW systems are a mistake, or broken. But again, this kind of thing will come down to preference.
Either way, I didn't say that applies to everything they did. Mario 64 is one of the most rewarding games to play even today, due almost solely to the quality of the gameplay and satisfying interaction of its movement system/s.
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Lethal01
Member
Nintendo brings more depth with mario's jump than Ellie's entire moveset in the last of us. They do the same with the other core mechanics in most of their games.
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