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[Chiggs]

So now we're allowed to post Tom Warren stories on The Verge?

 

[TheKremlinBossMan]

Sounds like they were considering going back on day and date releases.

It cant be good for the bottom line.

 

[Topher]

I guess i can but y all so quick to start threads about xbox emails that one would expect this to be the same for every email coming out of either company. We both know the reason why.
If there was one email that need a seperate thread it was the lying ryan email.

lol.....you really should look a bit more into the posters who are starting these threads and drop the "y'all" bullshit. We are not talking about Sony fanboys, but of course you need to make it about that so you and others can continue your Xbox persecution tantrums.

 

[NEbeast]

Ok, couldn’t prove then. You can’t just obstruct business because you’re concerned, you have to actually demonstrate your concerns in real outcomes. Something which the FTC and CMA seem to have had difficulty doing.

Didn't Americans say the same thing with internet providers: how is that working out?

 

[Tams]

Where's our MILF Lulu? Do we have her opinion on this? She's been rather quiet, no?

As have the Microsoft execs threatening to pull out of the UK market.

Lots of eggs and lots of faces.

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

Didn't Americans say the same thing with internet providers: how is that working out?

I’m not American but I know their internet is a fuckload better than ours is in Australia!

 

[ulantan]

We are back to this lie. Might as well add Psygnosis to the mix as well sure.

BUT SPIDERMAN!!!!!

 

[RobRSG]

I wonder if this is a legit message.

 

[ulantan]

Difference with what? I would love to be the only player in a market... Every business wants to be the only player. It's just not realistic.

Only Microsoft can outspend.

 

[JCK75]

So is anyone clutching their pearls over this under the impression that it's not Sony's intentions to do the same when they buy up exclusives?

 

[OmegaSupreme]

So is anyone clutching their pearls over this under the impression that it's not Sony's intentions to do the same when they buy up exclusives?

Can you tell me how buying exclusives games is the same as buying whole publishers?

 

[Fuz]

Microsoft lost a lot of sympathy. The consequences will be hard.

Consequences will never be the same.

 

[Dick Jones]

BUT SPIDERMAN!!!!!

Ah I forgot that classic, we were gift-wrapped the same opportunity and did fuck all but hate that the other team made gold out of the same discarded materials.

Xbox fans blaming Sony for Xbox rejecting Spider-Man

I should really include webhead in my Psygnosis mentions. Hopefully Jim will revive the studio and call the Spider-Man development team Psygnosis

 

[KXVXII9X]

 

[quest]

Can you tell me how buying exclusives games is the same as buying whole publishers?

Both remove content from the other. One is dirt cheap if you have 80% marketshare. The other makes financial sense when you have 20% marketshare. This whole thing laughable. Microsoft has lost many more games from major studios in the last 7 years than Sony. People are flipping out because Sony is losing major studio games for the first time in near a decade. They expect everything from major studios but the other side can wait years if it ever comes and that's fine.

 

[Kabelly]

im sure this was posted before but

 

[Dick Jones]

Both remove content from the other. One is dirt cheap if you have 80% marketshare. The other makes financial sense when you have 20% marketshare. This whole thing laughable. Microsoft has lost many more games from major studios in the last 7 years than Sony. People are flipping out because Sony is losing major studio games for the first time in near a decade. They expect everything from major studios but the other side can wait years if it ever comes and that's fine.

Didn't Yakuza and Persona show it was more a developer risk than Sony for stopping the games on Xbox. Not every game missed on Xbox is because of Sony. Even with the likes of FFVII Remake, exclusivity is gone and where is the Xbox version?

 

[KXVXII9X]

Everyone knew that was the end game. If it was about content for gamepass or exclusives for their xbox owners, they wouldve bought a lot more of those cheaper studios like Crystal Dynamics, Respawn, Insomniac etc. $300 million max.

It was always about eliminating competition so they could have a monopoly.

I remember some people were like, "No, no Phil is one of us! Xbox is pro-consumer."

 

[Dick Jones]

im sure this was posted before but

Fuck Gryffindor. Hufflepuff is where it's at!

 

[JCK75]

Can you tell me how buying exclusives games is the same as buying whole publishers?

Yes I'd be happy to.. they were trying to make Starfield exclusive to PS5, this would have destroyed Xbox almost entirely...
you think they were not going to attempt the same move with ES6? Would the same people making a petition against it being Xbox exclusive now do the same if it were PS5 exclusive?

Sony has been buying up all kinds of popular properties over the years and Microsoft just went bigger, that is the only difference is the size and scope of what they are doing.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Yes I'd be happy to.. they were trying to make Starfield exclusive to PS5, this would have destroyed Xbox almost entirely...
you think they were not going to attempt the same move with ES6? Would the same people making a petition against it being Xbox exclusive now do the same if it were PS5 exclusive?

Sony has been buying up all kinds of popular properties over the years and Microsoft just went bigger, that is the only difference is the size and scope of what they are doing.

Such as?

 

[nightmare-slain]

Well yeah MS have "fuck you" money but it's what you do with it. The only company that could outspend Microsoft is Apple (if they take gaming more seriously).

This is obvious and doesn't really need to be said. MS went ahead to purchase Activision/Blizzard for $70 billion or whatever it was. Could you imagine Sony or Nintendo being able to spend that kind of money?

If Microsoft get their shit together then nobody will stand a chance against them.

 

[IDKFA]

Fuck Gryffindor. Hufflepuff is where it's at!

Hufflepuff is the house of beta males and Karens.

 

[Dick Jones]

Hufflepuff is the house of beta males and Karens.

Batman was in Hufflepuff.
If Hufflepuff wasn't there, who would the cannon fodder be then?

 

[Heisenberg007]

How is this the smoking gun y'all are trying to make it out to be. Sony is literally do the same thing just on a smaller scale. Silly ponies

Oh, we are back to using Ponies and Xbots now on this forum? Seriously? Seek help!

 

[LordCBH]

Sony did that with Sega and tried to do that with MS.

Sega killed themselves with awful decision after awful decision after awful decision.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Wow you guys really are triggered by this

I get it, I’d be annoyed to if I had to defend the indefensible.

 

[FunkMiller]

Batman was in Hufflepuff.

 

[JCK75]

Such as?

thuyey
Bungie with Destiny, They snatched up Naughty Dog and Crash Bandicoot early on, Spider-man used to be a figure across every platform now he's Sony Exclusive which is about as big as a franchise can be, They purchased a huge stake into Square Enix and what platform is Final Fantasy XVI not available on?

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

Wow. Thank you for contributing to this discussion with such an intellectually stimulating argument.

 

[Dick Jones]

This is what he looked like before we killed his parents.

It was a thought experiment that we followed through on

 

[OmegaSupreme]

thuyey
Bungie with Destiny, They snatched up Naughty Dog and Crash Bandicoot early on, Spider-man used to be a figure across every platform now he's Sony Exclusive which is about as big as a franchise can be, They purchased a huge stake into Square Enix and what platform is Final Fantasy XVI not available on?

Destiny is still multiplat. Spiderman isn't owned by sony. It was offered to ms. Christ.

 

[FunkMiller]

This is what he looked like before we killed his parents.

It was a thought experiment that we followed through on

I always completely forget Pattinson was in Potter

 

[JCK75]

Destiny is still multiplat. Spiderman isn't owned by sony. It was offered to ms. Christ.

How did Sony get the exclusive right to Spider-man? Matt Booty was suggesting they outspend Sony to get exclusives.. this does not mean buy up every studio.. it means secure more games.
Why is that nefarious as opposed to what Sony does?

I'm the one saying it's not

 

[Dick Jones]

I always completely forget Pattinson was in Potter

It's the only thing us Hufflepuff have over anyone. Don't take that from us

 

[Roxkis_ii]

Yes I'd be happy to.. they were trying to make Starfield exclusive to PS5, this would have destroyed Xbox almost entirely...

I think not having any games outside of the recent acquisitions is whats killing Xbox.

 

[LordCBH]

How did Sony get the exclusive right to Spider-man?

Because Marvel was looking for a partner to work with and offered it to Microsoft first, WHO PASSED IT UP.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

It's the only thing us Hufflepuff have over anyone. Don't take that from us

You're proud of having the sparkly vampire?

 

[JCK75]

I think not having any games outside of the recent acquisitions is whats killing Xbox.

So it makes sense to secure more games.

 

[Heisenberg007]

How did Sony get the exclusive right to Spider-man? Matt Booty was suggesting they outspend Sony to get exclusives.. this does not mean buy up every studio.. it means spend money for exclusives.

The answer is:

Disney wanted a platform holder to make exclusive Marvel games so they can get the high budget they need. Activision's Spider-Man games were failures. Disney approached Microsoft and offered them to make exclusive Marvel games. Phil Spencer, in his infinite wisdom, declined that offer. Disney then reached out to Sony. Sony accepted and hooked them up with Insomniac.

Xbox is the reason why Spider-Man games are not on Xbox. Take it up with them.

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

Losing sleep at the thought of MS monopolising gaming as a result of this deal?

No offence to you, but you seem to have less idea than even I do and be on cheaper drugs.

Well, at least thanks for answering my question. Guess this makes sense now.

Oh... btw, the phrase `losing sleep`... is an idiom. I felt compelled to have to point that out all considering.

 

[JCK75]

Because Marvel was looking for a partner to work with and offered it to Microsoft first, WHO PASSED IT UP.

Sony pays large sums of cash to secure exclusives, they paid up for Spider-man.

 

[Three]

I suppose I’m saying, the resultant monopoly is proving very difficult to prove despite the concern of many in this thread. The numbers just aren’t there …

The numbers are there for multigame subscriptions and cloud and that's what the CMA have decided to concentrate on. Whether the CMA and FTC are ultimately successful or not people can see what MS are trying to pull.

If regulators cannot stop MS from buying the biggest publisher with the biggest IPs they would have no chance with any other subsequent publishers on MS' list. They can buy up all the publishers to rule over that moat castle.

 

[JCK75]

The answer is:

Disney wanted a platform holder to make exclusive Marvel games so they can get the high budget they need. Activision's Spider-Man games were failures. Disney approached Microsoft and offered them to make exclusive Marvel games. Phil Spencer, in his infinite wisdom, declined that offer. Disney then reached out to Sony. Sony accepted and hooked them up with Insomniac.

Xbox is the reason why Spider-Man games are not on Xbox. Take it up with them.

Activision was actively seeking a buyer, Microsoft stepped up..
see how that works?

 

[ulantan]

Sony pays large sums of cash to secure exclusives, they paid up for Spider-man.

And yet Microsoft can still make a spiderman game because Sony doesn't own the game rights. Microsoft aren't locked out of games from square enix games because Sony doesn't own them. That's the difference

 

[Heisenberg007]

Activision was actively seeking a buyer, Microsoft stepped up..
see how that works?

And then FTC and CMA stepped up. What's the issue then?

 

[Methos#1975]

thuyey
Bungie with Destiny, They snatched up Naughty Dog and Crash Bandicoot early on, Spider-man used to be a figure across every platform now he's Sony Exclusive which is about as big as a franchise can be, They purchased a huge stake into Square Enix and what platform is Final Fantasy XVI not available on?

ND outside Rings of Power and Way of the Warrior has pretty much always been with Sony. Sony only acquired them after years of supporting them, funding them, and sharing their tech with them. Sony built ND completely into what it is. We know factually that Marvel contacted MS in regards to them acquiring Marvel IPS and looking at the time frame that occurred one can surmise that Spiderman was one of those offered properties. MS being classic MS fucked that up. We also know SE approached MS about FF16 but Sony made a better offer. Another classic MS bumble fuck. As to Bungie, knowing what we know now, I'm willing to bet good money Bungie ran to Sony in order to escape MS'S grasp.

 

[LordCBH]

Sony pays large sums of cash to secure exclusives, they paid up for Spider-man.

Yes. Sony paid Microsoft to pass on Spiderman so they could do it. Marvel offered it to Microsoft first who passed on it.

 

[Roxkis_ii]

So it makes sense to secure more games.

It would make more sense to fix what's wrong with the other 20 something studios then to add more to the list, when you can't manage the group you have.

 

[Dick Jones]

Activision was actively seeking a buyer, Microsoft stepped up..
see how that works?

Activision were seeking a buyer because we finally had that cunt Bobby Kotick caught for condoning a culture of sexual assaults and harassment. The selling was a way to get Bobby to remain in place and leave on better grounds or, as it seems, give him enough time for the heat to die down.

As it stands that prick will remain in his role no matter what, rather than told to fuck off.