It cant be good for the bottom line.Sounds like they were considering going back on day and date releases.
I guess i can but y all so quick to start threads about xbox emails that one would expect this to be the same for every email coming out of either company. We both know the reason why.
If there was one email that need a seperate thread it was the lying ryan email.
Didn't Americans say the same thing with internet providers: how is that working out?Ok, couldn’t prove then. You can’t just obstruct business because you’re concerned, you have to actually demonstrate your concerns in real outcomes. Something which the FTC and CMA seem to have had difficulty doing.
I’m not American but I know their internet is a fuckload better than ours is in Australia!Didn't Americans say the same thing with internet providers: how is that working out?
BUT SPIDERMAN!!!!!We are back to this lie. Might as well add Psygnosis to the mix as well sure.
Only Microsoft can outspend.Difference with what? I would love to be the only player in a market... Every business wants to be the only player. It's just not realistic.
Can you tell me how buying exclusives games is the same as buying whole publishers?So is anyone clutching their pearls over this under the impression that it's not Sony's intentions to do the same when they buy up exclusives?
Consequences will never be the same.
Microsoft lost a lot of sympathy. The consequences will be hard.
Ah I forgot that classic, we were gift-wrapped the same opportunity and did fuck all but hate that the other team made gold out of the same discarded materials.BUT SPIDERMAN!!!!!
Both remove content from the other. One is dirt cheap if you have 80% marketshare. The other makes financial sense when you have 20% marketshare. This whole thing laughable. Microsoft has lost many more games from major studios in the last 7 years than Sony. People are flipping out because Sony is losing major studio games for the first time in near a decade. They expect everything from major studios but the other side can wait years if it ever comes and that's fine.Can you tell me how buying exclusives games is the same as buying whole publishers?
Didn't Yakuza and Persona show it was more a developer risk than Sony for stopping the games on Xbox. Not every game missed on Xbox is because of Sony. Even with the likes of FFVII Remake, exclusivity is gone and where is the Xbox version?Both remove content from the other. One is dirt cheap if you have 80% marketshare. The other makes financial sense when you have 20% marketshare. This whole thing laughable. Microsoft has lost many more games from major studios in the last 7 years than Sony. People are flipping out because Sony is losing major studio games for the first time in near a decade. They expect everything from major studios but the other side can wait years if it ever comes and that's fine.
I remember some people were like, "No, no Phil is one of us! Xbox is pro-consumer."Everyone knew that was the end game. If it was about content for gamepass or exclusives for their xbox owners, they wouldve bought a lot more of those cheaper studios like Crystal Dynamics, Respawn, Insomniac etc. $300 million max.
It was always about eliminating competition so they could have a monopoly.
Fuck Gryffindor. Hufflepuff is where it's at!im sure this was posted before but
Can you tell me how buying exclusives games is the same as buying whole publishers?
Such as?Yes I'd be happy to.. they were trying to make Starfield exclusive to PS5, this would have destroyed Xbox almost entirely...
you think they were not going to attempt the same move with ES6? Would the same people making a petition against it being Xbox exclusive now do the same if it were PS5 exclusive?
Sony has been buying up all kinds of popular properties over the years and Microsoft just went bigger, that is the only difference is the size and scope of what they are doing.
Fuck Gryffindor. Hufflepuff is where it's at!
Batman was in Hufflepuff.Hufflepuff is the house of beta males and Karens.
Oh, we are back to using Ponies and Xbots now on this forum? Seriously? Seek help!How is this the smoking gun y'all are trying to make it out to be. Sony is literally do the same thing just on a smaller scale. Silly ponies
Sony did that with Sega and tried to do that with MS.
Wow you guys really are triggered by this
I get it, I’d be annoyed to if I had to defend the indefensible.
thuyeySuch as?
Destiny is still multiplat. Spiderman isn't owned by sony. It was offered to ms. Christ.thuyey
Bungie with Destiny, They snatched up Naughty Dog and Crash Bandicoot early on, Spider-man used to be a figure across every platform now he's Sony Exclusive which is about as big as a franchise can be, They purchased a huge stake into Square Enix and what platform is Final Fantasy XVI not available on?
This is what he looked like before we killed his parents.
It was a thought experiment that we followed through on
Destiny is still multiplat. Spiderman isn't owned by sony. It was offered to ms. Christ.
It's the only thing us Hufflepuff have over anyone. Don't take that from usI always completely forget Pattinson was in Potter
I think not having any games outside of the recent acquisitions is whats killing Xbox.Yes I'd be happy to.. they were trying to make Starfield exclusive to PS5, this would have destroyed Xbox almost entirely...
How did Sony get the exclusive right to Spider-man?
You're proud of having the sparkly vampire?It's the only thing us Hufflepuff have over anyone. Don't take that from us
I think not having any games outside of the recent acquisitions is whats killing Xbox.
The answer is:How did Sony get the exclusive right to Spider-man? Matt Booty was suggesting they outspend Sony to get exclusives.. this does not mean buy up every studio.. it means spend money for exclusives.
Well, at least thanks for answering my question. Guess this makes sense now.Losing sleep at the thought of MS monopolising gaming as a result of this deal?
No offence to you, but you seem to have less idea than even I do and be on cheaper drugs.
Sony pays large sums of cash to secure exclusives, they paid up for Spider-man.Because Marvel was looking for a partner to work with and offered it to Microsoft first, WHO PASSED IT UP.
The numbers are there for multigame subscriptions and cloud and that's what the CMA have decided to concentrate on. Whether the CMA and FTC are ultimately successful or not people can see what MS are trying to pull.I suppose I’m saying, the resultant monopoly is proving very difficult to prove despite the concern of many in this thread. The numbers just aren’t there …
The answer is:
Disney wanted a platform holder to make exclusive Marvel games so they can get the high budget they need. Activision's Spider-Man games were failures. Disney approached Microsoft and offered them to make exclusive Marvel games. Phil Spencer, in his infinite wisdom, declined that offer. Disney then reached out to Sony. Sony accepted and hooked them up with Insomniac.
Xbox is the reason why Spider-Man games are not on Xbox. Take it up with them.
And yet Microsoft can still make a spiderman game because Sony doesn't own the game rights. Microsoft aren't locked out of games from square enix games because Sony doesn't own them. That's the differenceSony pays large sums of cash to secure exclusives, they paid up for Spider-man.
And then FTC and CMA stepped up. What's the issue then?Activision was actively seeking a buyer, Microsoft stepped up..
see how that works?
ND outside Rings of Power and Way of the Warrior has pretty much always been with Sony. Sony only acquired them after years of supporting them, funding them, and sharing their tech with them. Sony built ND completely into what it is. We know factually that Marvel contacted MS in regards to them acquiring Marvel IPS and looking at the time frame that occurred one can surmise that Spiderman was one of those offered properties. MS being classic MS fucked that up. We also know SE approached MS about FF16 but Sony made a better offer. Another classic MS bumble fuck. As to Bungie, knowing what we know now, I'm willing to bet good money Bungie ran to Sony in order to escape MS'S grasp.thuyey
Bungie with Destiny, They snatched up Naughty Dog and Crash Bandicoot early on, Spider-man used to be a figure across every platform now he's Sony Exclusive which is about as big as a franchise can be, They purchased a huge stake into Square Enix and what platform is Final Fantasy XVI not available on?
Sony pays large sums of cash to secure exclusives, they paid up for Spider-man.
It would make more sense to fix what's wrong with the other 20 something studios then to add more to the list, when you can't manage the group you have.So it makes sense to secure more games.
Activision were seeking a buyer because we finally had that cunt Bobby Kotick caught for condoning a culture of sexual assaults and harassment. The selling was a way to get Bobby to remain in place and leave on better grounds or, as it seems, give him enough time for the heat to die down.Activision was actively seeking a buyer, Microsoft stepped up..
see how that works?