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[Fbh]

Lol reading some replies here you'd think the game was sitting at a 60 metascore.

 

[Del_X]

Problem is they cant even create their own unique content anymore. Evert here of The Initiative? Neither have I (jokes aside) this was supposed to be their grass roots studio built from the ground up. Money poured into it, working on the new perfect dark and what happens? They bring in Crystal Dynamics a third party player to come in, take over, and take charge of the project which I assume and been restarted or vastly changed

This is an industry problem more than a MSFT problem. What "unique content" has any major publisher rolled out this gen?

 

[itsjustJEFF]

So far I’m pretty damn close with my prediction. I knew the game would be far from perfect, but it looks perfect for me.

Exactly. If you like Sci-Fi, which I do, and Bethesda games... this is your damn Jam! The review scores won't matter and besides mid-high 80's is a really good score.

 

[trent_the_gent]

Lol, fucking called it with the identikit space-caves full of space-crabs to kill. There was no way the sort of depth of exploration they were promising was possible.

Bethesda just keep making the same game over and over with a different coat of paint and rely on modders and "make your own fun!" rather than handcrafting outside of a few questlines.

 

[Red5]

The meltdowns over some arbitrary scores are hilarious.

Honestly I'm more people taking the piss at people saying the scores are good or great, than actual meltdowns.

 

[killatopak]

This is an industry problem more than a MSFT problem. What "unique content" has any major publisher rolled out this gen?

Hi-Fi Rush?

 

[ByWatterson]

Lol reading some replies here you'd think the game was sitting at a 60 metascore.

I mean it's obviously not, but a ton of reviews still aren't out, and it's absolutely a disappointment. This game had to be earth-shattering, and it's merely "very good."

Microsoft still hasn't had a consensus "HOLY SHIT" hit in years.

 

[El Sueño]

So?... it flopped.

 

[Solidus_T]

This is an industry problem more than a MSFT problem. What "unique content" has any major publisher rolled out this gen?

Private devs are making the best games. Look at FROM and Larian this year, both with fresh experiences in Baldur's Gate 3 and Armored Core VI.

 

[StueyDuck]

Wow a 7 from IGN... was not expecting that, I can already tell that's probably too harsh and I've not played the game yet.

 

[sinnergy]

So?... it flopped.

No. A flop is a 5.

 

[Del_X]

Private devs are making the best games. Look at FROM and Larian this year, both with fresh experiences in Baldur's Gate 3 and Armored Core VI.

Agreed, which is why I mentioned "major publisher"

 

[Hollowpoint5557]

I LOVE this thread. It's conveniently placing the console warriors all in one place allowing my ignore user button to be working overtime. This will completely clean up the Gaf forums for me.

 

[Red5]

So?... it flopped.

Yeah Phil is going to announce MS is going software only tomorrow, probably going to start selling off studios too.

 

[killatopak]

So?... it flopped.

Too big to fail. Also, plenty of games that didn't review well, sold well. Destiny, R6S, etc.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

I'm convinced a big reason Alien: Isolation (the best Alien game ever made) sold below expectations and will never receive a sequel is due in big part due to IGNs 5/10 score.

I don't think they're that influential when it's all said and done. They've become nothing but forum fodder to use as weapons for one side or the other. Doubt many people actually take them seriously.

 

[Lokaum D+]

immagine that much planets and 1% has life on it... geez

 

[BoxFresh123]

Hold strong

 

[darrylgorn]

Series X - 1440p
Series S - 900p

 

[Topher]

Overhyped doesn’t mean that it’s bad, but clearly the game was overhyped? It’s not like we couldn’t see it coming, the level of expectations set by the Xbox fans was just absolutely insane.

They will just move on to X million people played quickly though so it’s not like anybody will be hurting for long.

I predicted a score of 90 and so far it looks like I'm 2 or 3 points off my expectation for this game. I'll tell you if I think it was overhyped after I play. This review score drama is a very old tale that has played out exactly like this many times before. I'll just have to see for myself.

 

[Montauk]

Yeah Phil is going to announce MS is going software only tomorrow, probably going to start selling off studios too.

What? Phil is already gone. Passed on.

Nadella beheaded him with a katana 2 hours ago. Keep up.

 

[ByWatterson]

So?... it flopped.

Nah, not a flop, but pretty clearly a slight disappointment, or maybe a little worse. Big outlets not loving it is a huge deal, however this board wants to spin it.

 

[cormack12]

sauce? lmao

Starfield - Review Thread Microsoft - PC - Reviews

Ouch I will cry if it's Nioh bad.

web.archive.org

 

[The Infectious Paradox]

Can anyone recommend a review that goes deep into combat?

 

[Hot5pur]

Massive expectations and it seems it was a critical success!
I think people are just having their fun bashing it because of exclusivity and general dislike for Microsoft.
Hope it has some bells and whistles at 4k60+

 

[Trippy]

I suspect some of these outlets 7/10 and 8/10 reviewers were planning to give it a perfect before hearing that Imagine Dragons abomination

 

[Heisenberg007]

As expected. I think this will go down a few points -- which will be a more accurate representation of this commendably ambitious but ultimately flawed game.

I predicted that it should be between 80-85, but will receive a slightly higher score because of Xbox exclusivity and end up between 85-89.

 

[graywolf323]

IGN review just cemented all of my fears. They call the world "barren and lifeless". Said the main missions are way too repetitive. Theres no map, so you will have to rely on memorization, and planet exploration is not seamless like it is in NMS.

The biggest nail in the coffin for me: "All there is to do on these planets is scan trees and rocks" - direct quote.

honestly you can find posts from me way back during the big reveal when they first said the planets were going to be procedurally generated where I had this exact same concern

sadly it’s proven true, I’m still debating getting it on Steam at launch or just playing it through GamePass until there’s a sale

I’ll probably get it for Steam though just because as long as it runs alright on the Deck since you can get it for nearly 20% off already from Fanatical plus get cash back

 

[Romulus]

Baldino:

Exploration wasn't as good as hoped. Very menu-y, loading screens, feels like there's too many barriers and doesn't feel seamless.
Many planets were bland and boring. Most planet dungeons didn't feel worth exploring.

The biggest letdown of all imo. I would have easily traded a little less combat prowess for better exploration.

That's pretty much the consensus throughout the reviews and it takes away from one of the most hyped aspects. Most reviewers have barely started playing the bigger sweep of the game and are already tossing exploration aside. That's really bad.

I never expected to be 1000 detailed, interesting worlds, but we know now it's a total gimmick combined with the restrictions of where you can actually go.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Nah, not a flop, but pretty clearly a slight disappointment, or maybe a little worse. Big outlets not loving it is a huge deal, however this board wants to spin it.

More like the board wants to spin an 87 average as a disappointment.

 

[Draugoth]

So what could i get is:

Positives

• RPG elelements are much stronger than in Previous Bethesda Games
• Character creation inventory management is really good
• Shiton of quests & content
• Animations and combat are good
• Story is really good
• Ship building is really good

Problems

• Most of the planets are barren
• Planet exploration goes down to classic Ubisoft formula "go there and kill everyone"
• It's super easy to get lost in the game
• Shitload of loadingscreen even with SSD
• Shit peformance on Xbox Series S

The fact that IGN and Gamespot didnt gave this high scores is a red flag considering how they love to jerk on big game studios titles. I think i will just get the standard edition.

 

[Gudji]

Hey it's tied with Halo Infinite on MC.

 

[Withnail]

Lol reading some replies here you'd think the game was sitting at a 60 metascore.

That’s what happens when people set expectations for 95+ GOTY standard.

 

[adamsapple]

Hey it's tied with Halo Infinite on MC.

Sweet, that means it's gonna win Gaf GOTY

 

[yamaci17]

I mean it's obviously not, but a ton of reviews are out, and it's absolutely a disappointment. This game had to be earth-shattering, and it's merely "very good."

Microsoft still hasn't had a consensus "HOLY SHIT" hit in years.

yup. that's the part deniers do not understand. I thought whole point of bethesda purchase was to get that "holy shit" game that they themselves couldn't produce for 8 years (aside from niche forza motorsport and forza horizon games. even then, they're at the doors of being holy shit and not necessarily holy shit games)

 

[StueyDuck]

So?... it flopped.

Game reviews from "Journos" are about as important as my night time bed farts.

The game is gonna sell well and most people are going to love it because it's a Bethesda game and they do make the best Bethesda games at Bethesda

 

[ByWatterson]

More like the board wants to spin an 87 average as a disappointment.

That's for sure, too. But for Microsoft, this needed to be more than it apparently is.

It seems to be but a good game, not a watershed moment.

 

[NonPhixion]

Glad I decided to go with 1 month of pc game pass using rewards points. I can wait until the 6th.

 

[Gudji]

Sweet, that means it's gonna win Gaf GOTY

No doubt.

 

[Heisenberg007]

More like the board wants to spin an 87 average as a disappointment.

ByWatterson is right though. 87 is still a pretty good score, but Starfield was supposed to be one of the Game of the Generations. It's definitely not that.

So I think it can still be called a "slight disappointment," as in "it wasn't as good as people thought it'd be."

 

[ZehDon]

This thread is something else. Reading the replies, I thought this was landing at Redfall numbers. Looks like it’ll land 85-90 like a good number predicted.
Reads like it’s a terrific sci-fi RPG, and easily Bethesdas most polished game. Can’t wait to play it win about a week.

People need to ease up on the gas. The DF thread is gonna be wild - if it runs well on Series S, I can’t wait to read the same manufactured meltdowns.

 

[DR3AM]

$7.5 Billion well spend Microsoft

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I predicted a score of 90 and so far it looks like I'm 2 or 3 points off my expectation for this game. I'll tell you if I think it was overhyped after I play. This review score drama is a very old tale that has played out exactly like this many times before. I'll just have to see for myself.

You know these people are just trying to poke because they even hate its getting an 88 or so

Most were terrified it would be 95ish and in my world 88 is still a damn good game

 

[Withnail]

Likely to be sub 85 after more reviews come in. Edge and Eurogamer plus other UK outlets still to come.

 

[VinnyMac]

Even high 80s for the amount of hype this game was / is getting is considered a disappointment.

 

[BennyBlanco]

I don't think they're that influential when it's all said and done. They've become nothing but forum fodder to use as weapons for one side or the other. Doubt many people actually take them seriously.

Well, they used to be incredibly influential along with gamespot. YouTubers ate their lunch. I will watch Mortismal’s review and ACG because I know our tastes line up.

High 80s metacritic doesnt seem like something worth having a meltdown about.

 

[Kacho]

Can anyone recommend a review that goes deep into combat?

00:00 Intro
01:33 Overview
02:15 Technical State
04:03 Story Set Up & Thoughts
08:02 Character Creation
11:45 Progression Systems
17:32 Initial Worldbuilding
20:15 Factions
23:44 Exploration
29:42 Outposts
30:57 Spaceships
37:30 Random Encounters
37:59 Fast Travel
38:43 Combat
43:47 Companions
45:22 Steam Deck
46:00 Positives/Negatives
49:53 Conclusion
51:21 Wrap Up

 

[ThatOneGrunt]

People working overtime here trying to convince themselves and others that this game is a major disappointment.

 

[Dr_Ifto]

Well, its not a false start for MSFT, but its not gonna be the GOTY they wanted.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Likely to be sub 85 after more reviews come in. Edge and Eurogamer still to come.

That depends if Edge / EG gives it 6/10 or 7/10. If both give the game 10/10, it could still end up us 87 or 88.