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Sea of Thieves is the Most Preordered game on Playstation

Killjoy-NL

Member
*Game does amazingly well on all released platforms*

You: “I’m surprised preorders on PS look this good. I doubt it’ll sell well”
"Doubt it'll sell well in the grand scheme of things*"

No surprise seeing you leave out that part.

But as I said, if they do become decent successes, it'll speed up the process of MS going full 3rd party.
So I don't think xbox fans should be smug about it.
 

Diddy X

Member
I still don't get this. PS fans are getting extra games and MS is losing exclusives, why on earth would PS fans be salty?

I don't care either way as I already have SoT on XBox, but these salty comments make zero sense. (XBox fans being salty I could understand as they are losing exclusives and if this sells well then I can see many more on the way, some being day one)

So please, explain why PS fans are salty (apparently)

Because the best selling game is owned by the enemy!
 

Panajev2001a

GAF's Pleasant Genius
Its a shame this forum wasnt around in the PS1 days when Sony was releasing numerous first party Playstation games on to Sega Saturn and N64, like Wipeout, Destruction Derby, etc.
It sure meant the end of Playstation didnt it!.
First Psygnosys purchase is used to justify MS buying and making new games from Bethesda/Zenimax exclusive and the desire to do the same for Activision-Blizzard (ignoring how Sony respected the agreement with the small company they bought to still release some titles on competing consoles, as they were a multiplatform publisher before) and now this is picked up as it seems useful for another narrative 😂.

Totally comparable to the situation at hand too, same trend, not just another “SonyToo” distraction… sure ;). I remember Sony sending all their top brass to do podcasts to explain PlayStation was doing fine and it was not a change of course for a console that, check notes, was their first ever console so there was no direction set in stone to defend from ravenous fanboys.
 
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Clintizzle

Lord of Edge.
I still don't get this. PS fans are getting extra games and MS is losing exclusives, why on earth would PS fans be salty?

I don't care either way as I already have SoT on XBox, but these salty comments make zero sense. (XBox fans being salty I could understand as they are losing exclusives and if this sells well then I can see many more on the way, some being day one)

So please, explain why PS fans are salty (apparently)
There are people in thread talking about Sony's 30% cut like it somehow goes to their personal bank accounts lmao.
 

King Dazzar

Member
A lot has changed. The game has a fast travel now.


Unfortunately I'm still not convinced. Can you control anything but the smallest sloop solo and fight effectively against other ships? Can you progress well as a solo player, like you can in multiplayer?
 

jroc74

Phone reception is more important to me than human rights
Because the best selling game is owned by the enemy!
The "enemy" has several best selling games tho. Didn't they just acquire ABK?

Also as of today SoT is now fourth. MLB The Show replaced it at #1 two days ago.

MLB The Show remains a juggernaut every year.
 

midnightAI

Member
Because the best selling game is owned by the enemy!
'Current' most pre-ordered of the games available for pre-order, nothing to do with best selling, and overall is quite meaningless as many terrible games (this isnt one of them of course) are also top of this list occasionally.

Its just weird for people to label others salty when they are getting the game. Now people being salty over the likes of Hellblade 2 (currently) I'd understand. Many games are now owned by MS such as Call of Duty, should PS fans be salty that is going to come out on PlayStation also? very weird.

(basically no one gives a shit who makes the game so long as it comes to your platform of choice, salty for games you arent getting I understand, salty for games you are getting makes zero sense, well, except for Suicide Squad maybe)
 
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Topher

Gold Member
There are people in thread talking about Sony's 30% cut like it somehow goes to their personal bank accounts lmao.

Eh....you are being a bit selective, aren't you? We've got posts bragging about the money MS is going to be bringing in from this as well. And really the entire thread is bragging about an Xbox game's preorders.

Awkward John Krasinski GIF by Saturday Night Live
 
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Schmick

Member
Unfortunately I'm still not convinced. Can you control anything but the smallest sloop solo and fight effectively against other ships? Can you progress well as a solo player, like you can in multiplayer?
Yes, yes you can.

Playing co-op comes with the same 'frustrations' that you might encounter playing solo. You could still encounter foe that are set on robbing you. The Sloop has an advantage over the Galleon for example, in that it is faster than the Galleon when travelling against the wind. Solo pirates have been known to take care of themselves against bigger ships if they feel inclined to take on the fight.

I played the game solo and co-op and even though I'll admit that the game is a whole lot of fun in co-op playing solo can be challenging and rewarding.
 
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Killjoy-NL

Member
After years of "Xbox has no games/Xbox games are shit", to see something as benign as Sea of Thieves racing up the charts on Playstation warrants some shitposting :messenger_sunglasses:
Racing up the charts is stretching it a bit, don't you think?

Let's see how Xbox Games hold up against Sony 1st party.
Because now we can finally make a comparison without all the fanboy-nonsense muddying the discussions.
 

King Dazzar

Member
Yes, yes you can.

Playing co-op comes with the same 'frustrations' that you might encounter playing solo. You could still encounter foe that are set on robbing you. The Sloop has an advantage of the Galleon for example, in that it is faster the Galleon when travelling against the wind. Solo pirates have been know to take care of themselves against bigger ships if they feel inclined to take on the fight.

I played the game solo and co-op and even though I'll admit that the game is a whole lot of fun in co-op playing solo can be challenging and rewarding.
Glad you had fun solo. When I played it though, the ships benefitted hugely from having multiple crew members. Otherwise you steer, run around the ship to do something else and then back to the helm again. Let alone if you're trying to fire a canon too! Unless I totally missed something when I last played it? But yeah not for me as a solo experience.
 

King Dazzar

Member
Racing up the charts is stretching it a bit, don't you think?

Let's see how Xbox Games hold up against Sony 1st party.
Because now we can finally make a comparison without all the fanboy-nonsense muddying the discussions.
The amusing bit for me. Is that the success only likely further accelerates and secures more releases. And a larger library to choose from can only be a positive for me. Having owned an XSX, to potentially get some Xbox goodies which can then be played using haptics and adaptive triggers, all from one box instead of two. Is great for me.

The further up the chart this goes, the closer we get to seeing the likes of GEARS and Halo MCC. Crack on Xbox I say, do your best, all good from my side. Lets see more and more releases.
 

Killjoy-NL

Member
The amusing bit for me. Is that the success only likely further accelerates and secures more releases. And a larger library to choose from can only be a positive for me. Having owned an XSX, to potentially get some Xbox goodies which can then be played using haptics and adaptive triggers, all from one box instead of two. Is great for me.

The further up the chart this goes, the closer we get to seeing the likes of GEARS and Halo MCC. Crack on Xbox I say, do your best, all good from my side. Lets see more and more releases.
Sure, but I already said the same.

But what I meant is that being a "success" on Playstation will be in comparison to Xbox sales, which is a pretty low bar given the size of either installbases.

It was in reaction to certain Gaffers cheering about this topic, when it doesn't necessarily have to mean much, as far as interest from the Playstation userbase goes.

The xbox vs PS "war" will die eventually. Then it'll be like discussing typical 3rd party games vs Sony 1st party.
 
"Doubt it'll sell well in the grand scheme of things*"

No surprise seeing you leave out that part.

But as I said, if they do become decent successes, it'll speed up the process of MS going full 3rd party.
So I don't think xbox fans should be smug about it.

Full third party 😆😆

Smug 😆😆

At ease
 

HeisenbergFX4

Gold Member
Technically, everybody wins in that pic.
My point, everyone is winning who gets to play a game they never had access to plus MS is making more money than not putting it on PS

I sure don't think Phil is upset about seeing SoT higher up on the preorder list even having to part with 30%, not at this stage in the games life and PS players get a game with a lot of content
 

M1chl

Currently Gif and Meme Champion
I expect resident hardcore playstation fans to create new accounts so they could pre-order this in peace
 

midnightAI

Member
My point, everyone is winning who gets to play a game they never had access to plus MS is making more money than not putting it on PS

I sure don't think Phil is upset about seeing SoT higher up on the preorder list even having to part with 30%, not at this stage in the games life and PS players get a game with a lot of content
And Sony are getting 30% doing not much at all.

But there is a downside for MS and that there is even less reason to buy an XBox especially if they port more and more due to the success of selling on PlayStation, which is great if they plan on getting out of the hardware business but that isnt what we have been hearing. MS really have a catch 22 situation going on, my guess is MS are doing this to try and get Sony to send some games the other way.
 

Killjoy-NL

Member
And Sony are getting 30% doing not much at all.

But there is a downside for MS and that there is even less reason to buy an XBox especially if they port more and more due to the success of selling on PlayStation, which is great if they plan on getting out of the hardware business but that isnt what we have been hearing. MS really have a catch 22 situation going on, my guess is MS are doing this to try and get Sony to send some games the other way.
Dunno, I think they slowly quit being a platform-holder.

Can't imagine both Sony and Nintendo opening up their platforms to MS, only to keep Xbox in the race as competition.
 
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midnightAI

Member
Dunno, I think they slowly quit being a platform-holder.

Can't imagine both Sony and Nintendo opening up their platforms to MS, only to keep Xbox in the race as competition.
Hence why I said try, also...
"I will say, when I look at a game like Helldivers 2, and it's a great game, kudos to the team shipping on PC and PlayStation, I'm not exactly sure who it helps in the industry by not being on Xbox."
Phil Spencer
Trust me, it wont be long before the narrative is that Sony are the bad guys for not releasing games cross platform and how MS are the saviours of the industry with 'play wherever you like, aren't we nice' (Colt Eastwood will certainly spin it that way)
 
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FoxMcChief

Gold Member
And Sony are getting 30% doing not much at all.

But there is a downside for MS and that there is even less reason to buy an XBox especially if they port more and more due to the success of selling on PlayStation, which is great if they plan on getting out of the hardware business but that isnt what we have been hearing. MS really have a catch 22 situation going on, my guess is MS are doing this to try and get Sony to send some games the other way.
Again, they are allowing Xbox to cash in on the PS box. There are no losers to Xbox games selling well on PS hardware. Except the fanboys with small dicks. You know the ones, they are the ones that can’t admit it’s good to see an Xbox game sell well on a PS console, or the ones that don’t want Xbox games on PS consoles.
 

Killjoy-NL

Member
Hence why I said try, also...

Trust me, it wont be long before the narrative is that Sony are the bad guys for not releasing games cross platform and how MS are the saviours of the industry with 'play wherever you like, aren't we nice' (Colt Eastwood will certainly spin it that way)
Fair enough.

I took that comment as a clever way to make the hardcore xbox fanbase accept Xbox becoming a 3rd party publisher.
 
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midnightAI

Member
Again, they are allowing Xbox to cash in on the PS box. There are no losers to Xbox games selling well on PS hardware. Except the fanboys with small dicks. You know the ones, they are the ones that can’t admit it’s good to see an Xbox game sell well on a PS console, or the ones that don’t want Xbox games on PS consoles.
Well MS 'could' be the losers 'if' their plan is to carry on making hardware, short term gain due to software sales of course, but if a majority of their games suddenly become multi platform that cant do anything but harm hardware sales which would in turn harm their Game Pass subs. If they do indeed plan on becoming a third party (as some suspect) then its absolutely the best and only move to make. Anyway, time will tell what their plans are.
 

THE DUCK

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I don’t know why they would be mad, the entire point of their business is to make money who cares where it goes lol

You guys keep forgetting ms doesn't like sharing money, or control. Giving up 30% of what they bring in on games is not ideal.
They will still fight to keep the lions share on platforms where they get 100%. An old game that basically stopped selling a long time ago doesn't take away from anything.
 
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yurinka

Member
And 70% of that line is better than 100% of the other line, no?

I mean who is actually winning here?

In my mind its not who you think
Can't imagine both Sony and Nintendo opening up their platforms to MS, only to keep Xbox in the race as competition.

70% of a ton is better than 100% of almost nothing, yes. Going multiplatform is a good move for MS, way smarter than to lock their games on their console that almost has no market share and continues declining. Their console is dying, so it's better to chase players wherever they are.

Sony and Nintendo instead are insanely successful with their consoles, and have no need of publishing on rival consoles. In fact, Sony would want to make sure Xbox dies and they remain as the only high end home console. While Nintendo has to make sure they continue being the kings of the portable market, getting as much 3rd party support as needed to fight the PC handhelds competition in the mid term. And to do so, it's important for Sony and Nintendo to keep their game console exclusive.

Mobile and PC are different and huge neutral ground markets, so all 3 can expand there without competing each other that directly.
 
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HeisenbergFX4

Gold Member
70% of a ton is better than 100% of almost nothing, yes. Going multiplatform is a good move for MS, way smarter than to lock their games on their console that almost has no market share and continues declining.
Exactly what I have said on some other threads that MS going multiplatform for even games like HellBlade 2 is kind of a no brainer at this point with how Xbox hardware sales have been and maybe try some sort of reset with nextbox

Dunno, I think they slowly quit being a platform-holder.

Can't imagine both Sony and Nintendo opening up their platforms to MS, only to keep Xbox in the race as competition.
That whole thing also revolves on how fast Sony keeps porting their games to PC

For me personally I don't mind waiting on single player games to play them at better resolutions, higher frame rates and in ultrawide
 

Havoc2049

Member
Unfortunately I'm still not convinced. Can you control anything but the smallest sloop solo and fight effectively against other ships? Can you progress well as a solo player, like you can in multiplayer?
I have played tons of solo sloop in SoT. It's very doable. I reached Pirate Legend with about a 50/50 split of sailing solo or sailing with a crew. I have taken down numerous Skeleton Forts, Skeleton Fleets, Ghost Fleets, Forts of Fortune, Forts of the Damned, Vail Forts and other world events as a solo slooper. I have also sunk numerous two person sloops and larger ships as well, or out sailed them and got away, as a sloop is way more maneuverable than a larger ship.

There are tons of videos on YouTube of solo sloopers owning larger ships in battles. There are also tons of videos on YouTube with tips for solo sloopers. There are also several streamers, such as PhuzzyBonds and HitboTC that steam their adventures as a solo slooper on twitch.

Play the Maiden Voyage adventure and it covers all the basics on land and sea to become a competent pirate. Remember though, this is a game about pirates, so you will get sunk and you will loose loot, as it's part of the gameplay loop, but you will also sink other ships and steal their loot. You can also make alliances with other ships sometimes and maybe even get a server alliance going, which is way better than Safer Seas. Just like any game though, the more you play, the easier it gets in SoT.
 

yurinka

Member
Exactly what I have said on some other threads that MS going multiplatform for even games like HellBlade 2 is kind of a no brainer at this point with how Xbox hardware sales have been and maybe try some sort of reset with nextbox
I think that since acquired, games like Hellblade 2, Starfield or ESVI were always considered internally and secretly as timed console exclusives.

That whole thing also revolves on how fast Sony keeps porting their games to PC

For me personally I don't mind waiting on single player games to play them at better resolutions, higher frame rates and in ultrawide
I think Sony MP GaaS will continue releasing most of them day one on PC, while SP non-GaaS will continue being released at least around 2 years since their original (not counting remasters/remakes) PS release.

Sony console metrics don't seem to be negatively impacted by PC ports: the opposite, keep improving and achieving new records. On top of this, every year Sony releases more PS (I assume mostly temporal) 1st and 3rd party exclusives than PC ports of old games so every year the amount of games available in PS but not in PC keeps growing instead of declining.
 
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HeisenbergFX4

Gold Member
I think Sony MP GaaS will continue releasing most of them day one on PC, while SP non-GaaS will continue being released at least around 2 years since their original (not counting remasters/remakes) PS release.
I can wait it out, if I wasn't so far along in Hell Let Loose not sure my PS5 would get a ton of love because I ain't starting that grind over on PC
 

Roberts

Member
Glad you had fun solo. When I played it though, the ships benefitted hugely from having multiple crew members. Otherwise you steer, run around the ship to do something else and then back to the helm again. Let alone if you're trying to fire a canon too! Unless I totally missed something when I last played it? But yeah not for me as a solo experience.

Well, the process is a bit like what Kevin Costner did at the beginning of Waterworld. It is a bit hectic but if you get into the groove of it, you can have fun. And as I have said many times before, it is not for everybody and it is perfectly OK
 

James Sawyer Ford

Gold Member
That whole thing also revolves on how fast Sony keeps porting their games to PC

For me personally I don't mind waiting on single player games to play them at better resolutions, higher frame rates and in ultrawide

I can’t

The gaming industry is becoming such a fragmented mess

I guess I’ll stick to PS and Nintendo consoles for now, that covers most bases and the only thing being missed out on are day and date Xbox exclusives … but I still have an XSX which should still last a long time
 
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