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[duckroll]

So, it's finally up: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/inxile/wasteland-2

THIS PROJECT WILL ONLY BE FUNDED IF AT LEAST $900,000 IS PLEDGED BY TUESDAY APR 17, 8:05AM EDT.

Hmmmm.

"But we’re looking ahead to what we can do if you all back this project in force. At $1.25 million, the money will go primarily into making the world bigger, adding more maps, more divergent stories and even more music.

At $1.5 million, the world gets even bigger. You’ll have more adventures to play, more challenges to deal with, and a greater level of complexity to the entire storyline. We’ll add more environments, story elements, and characters to make the rich world come alive even more. We will even be able to bring Wasteland 2 to OS X for Mac lovers. And after $1.5 million the sky is the limit."

So basically, the game is looking to cost a million bucks at least, with a 1.5 year dev cycle (6 months of pre-production, 1 year of full development), and they're not interested in looking at any localizations or ports until they hit at least 1.5 million dollars. That's a pretty high goal and it might be a tad unrealistic. What is interesting is that if they get 1.25 million dollars, they're more interested in expanding the game first rather than making the game available to more people. That doesn't sound great to me...

MUST BE LESS NEGATIVE! IT LOOKS LIKE THIS PROJECT MIGHT ACTUALLY MAKE IT!!!!

PLEDGE $15 OR MORE

Digital Downloable copy of game DRM free for PC. This low price only available for those who helped fund. Also your party will start with a unique and quirky skill. (It won't affect game balance.)

Estimated Delivery: Oct 2013



PLEDGE $30 OR MORE

Previous reward + Downloadable DRM free digital soundtrack by Mark Morgan and digital WASTELAND 2 CONCEPT ART BOOK.

Estimated Delivery: Oct 2013



PLEDGE $50 OR MORE

Full LARGE BOXED COPY OF WASTELAND 2, complete with worn cloth game map and old school instruction book. Also features the digital soundtrack and digital concept art book from previous award. Also receive an early release episodic Novella (Part 1) on the Wasteland 2 world created by Mike Stackpole, a member of the original Wasteland story team. The Novella will give hints and clues being built into the actual Wasteland 2 game.

Estimated Delivery: Oct 2013



PLEDGE $75 OR MORE

Previous Reward + Early release episodic Novella (Part 2) on the Wasteland 2 world created by Mike Stackpole, a NYT bestselling author and member of the original Wasteland team. Also, get PREMIER ACCESS TO AN EARLY PLAYABLE BETA ON STEAM.

Estimated Delivery: Oct 2013



PLEDGE $100 OR MORE

Previous reward + COLLECTOR'S EDITION PREMIUM BOXED VERSION which of course contains map and instruction book. But additionally comes with Wasteland miniature, Wasteland 2 faction badge. Also get your name in the credits in a special thanks section. The premium box replaces the standard box but also comes with a digital copy of the game.

Estimated Delivery: Oct 2013



PLEDGE $150 OR MORE

The previous reward plus a limited edition numbered collectible coin and WASTELAND 2 POSTER.

Estimated Delivery: Oct 2013



PLEDGE $250 OR MORE

• Limited Reward (1000 of 1000 remaining)

Previous reward + your boxed collectors edition copy of the game will be AUTOGRAPHED BY BRIAN FARGO, ALAN PAVLISH, MIKE STACKPOLE and other key development team members. You will also receive 2 digital download copies (so you can leave your collectors edition sealed up!) and a lv1 Desert Ranger medal of honor (real metal medal) limited edition collectible.

Estimated Delivery: Oct 2013



PLEDGE $500 OR MORE

• Limited Reward (500 of 500 remaining)

Previous reward + WASTELAND DOOMSDAY PREPARATION SURVIVAL KIT. All your doomsday needs in a themed Wasteland collectible bag. You’ll also receive a lv2 Desert Ranger medal of honor limited edition collectible.

Estimated Delivery: Oct 2013



PLEDGE $1,000 OR MORE

• Limited Reward (100 of 100 remaining)

Previous reward + BECOME AN NPC, WEAPON, OR LOCATION in the Wasteland 2 world! We will get your name and (if relevant) a picture of you to add your general likeness to the actual shipped game. Brag to your friends and beg them not to take you out with a Meson Cannon. You’ll also receive 5 digital copies of the game and a lv3 Desert Ranger medal of honor limited edition collectible.

Estimated Delivery: Oct 2013



PLEDGE $2,500 OR MORE

• Limited Reward (100 of 100 remaining)

Previous reward + AN EXPLODED BLOOD SAUSAGE Wasteland limited signed and numbered collectible figurine. You’ll also receive 10 digital copies of the game to do what you want and of course, a lv4 Desert Ranger medal of honor limited edition collectible.

Estimated Delivery: Oct 2013



PLEDGE $5,000 OR MORE

• Limited Reward (10 of 10 remaining)

Previous reward + We will BUILD A STATUE, in your honor. After getting a picture of you, we will carefully craft this in game statue. You are now forever a part of Wasteland history. At this level, we will also sign and frame actual original concept art from the game. With 30 digital copies of Wasteland 2, you will be a hit with your friends. You will also receive a lv5 Desert ranger medal of honor limited edition collectible. (for the game, you'll get 1 signed collectors edition and 30 digital copies)

Estimated Delivery: Oct 2013



PLEDGE $10,000 OR MORE

• Limited Reward (8 of 8 remaining)

Previous reward + COME TO AN EXCLUSIVE PRIVATE PARTY hosted by Brian Fargo, Alan Pavlish and other key members of the Wasteland team (must be able to travel to Newport Beach, CA). Talk design, previous works or anything else you’d like to discuss. Also, a shrine in Wasteland 2 will be erected in your honor. You’ll receive 50 copies of the game to do what you want and our deep appreciation. And a medal.

Estimated Delivery: Oct 2013

So the $15 tier says the low price is exclusive to backers, and you also get pre-order exclusive DLC. Lulz. Are they going to sell this game at 30 bucks on Steam if it actually gets made?

Anyway, feel free to discuss this. Positive or negative. I hope they succeed with this, but Fargo's ambition seems to be pretty high here, so who knows...


Edit: Nirolak is going to get OWNED today! Rejoice Wasteland wanderers!!!!

 

[Tucah]

I'd love to see this happen but I doubt it'll be very successful - certainly nowhere near the DF adventure game.

 

[ZoddGutts]

Already close to 12k, so it's off to a good start at least.

 

[DaBuddaDa]

This is the best opportunity in a long time for the seemingly massive swaths of people lamenting the death of this style of CRPG to put their money where their mouth is. To quote the kickstarter pitch:

This is probably the last chance for a Wasteland sequel. We have tried to pitch this game multiple times to game publishers, but they’ve balked. They don’t think there’s any interest in a solid, old school type of game. This is our shot at proving them wrong. And more importantly this could help bring back an entire genre of RPGs. The power of the Indie scene continues and we see this as all part of a bigger trend of bringing control back to the developers.

Do it!

 

[Xater]

I backed it. I want it to reach the 1.5 so I don#t have to boot into windows.

 

[Acosta]

Boo duckroll, your scepticism ruins the fun

I'm going to back this. I'm more interested in the Avellone's one, but I want this to happen. The 1m mark is a bit scary, but I think Fargo note about the first Wasteland is right. If 100.000 bought the original wasteland, it would only take them to put 10$ to back this, doesn't sound unreasonable.

It helps that the game has been discussed and brought up for many years, so more people have been hearing from it. And old RPG fans has been quite vocal about wanting tactical and party based games, so I hope they manage to find a spot in their agenda of bashing Bioware to support this.

(BTW duckroll, there is a great interview with Fargo about this in RPS: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/03/12/post-post-nuclear-roleplaying-brian-fargo-on-wasteland-2/, if you want to put it in the op for extra info).

 

[duckroll]

Boo duckroll, your scepticism ruins the fun

I've been talking to Nirolak too much.

 

[AndyMoogle]

So the $15 tier says the low price is exclusive to backers, and you also get pre-order exclusive DLC. Lulz. Are they going to sell this game at 30 bucks on Steam if it actually gets made?

My guess is that it's going to be $20 on Steam. At least that's what I hope. $30 would be too much for people who aren't already backing it.

Anyway, I would love to put in $50 for the boxed copy, but I'm waiting for details on international shipping.

 

[subversus]

I've been talking to Nirolak too much.

Nirolak is realistic not sceptical!

 

[Magilla]

I chipped in 50, but might up it in the coming month depending on how some finances work out. I really hope it happens, but I do think they will need a major push.

 

[Confidence Man]

Why the one month deadline? And what happens if April 17th comes around and they only have 800k? The whole thing just goes *poof*?

 

[Fjordson]

Already in. It's a great idea, can never get enough of the post-apocalypse. Duckroll is right, though, Fargo is certainly aiming high with this. A little nervous about their odds of success, but really hope it gets funded.

In any event, the intro video is pretty funny.

"Did you do Angry Birds?!?"

"Would I fucking be here if I did Angry Birds?"

"Is this a billion-dollar franchise?!?"

"...probably not."

:lol

 

[duckroll]

Nirolak is realistic not sceptical!

I'm sure it's all the same thing to Acosta.

 

[MRORANGE]

dammit, that is the most negative op post for a kick starter project I have ever seen.


I backed it.

 

[dude]

I never played the original - but old school PC RPGs are my hands down favorite genre in video games.
I pledged 30$.

 

[Vulcano's assistant]

The $50 to $150 rewards are so much better than Double Fine's. The rest are so so for their price, however.

Pledged $30, but I'm genuinely tempted to go higher.

 

[subversus]

Why the one month deadline? And what happens if April 17th comes around and they only have 800k? The whole thing just goes *poof*?

yes, it's a maximum deadline for Kickstarter if understand it right.

all money will be refunded.

 

[AndyMoogle]

It seems to be raising pretty fast considering it's early in the morning.

yes, it's a maximum deadline for Kickstarter if understand it right.

all money will be refunded.

They don't charge until the last day, so there is no refunding needed.

 

[subversus]

They don't charge until the last day, so there is no refunding needed.

DF locked the sum on my card though so I wasn't able to use it.

 

[Acosta]

I'm sure it's all the same thing to Acosta.

I'm offended, I'll retire to my house made of rainbows and chocolate.

 

[Tombad]

Backed it. I have some nostalgic memories of Wasteland and I want to see a sequel happen.

 

[dejan]

"You better back this project ... or else."

 

[SovanJedi]

I might pledge to this, though I never played the original Wasteland (absolutely LOVED the original Bard's Tale).

Will keep an eye on this all the same, and good luck!

 

[AndyMoogle]

DF locked the sum on my card though so I wasn't able to use it.

Technically they haven't charged you yet though.

 

[mclem]

Tentatively interested, at least. I'll reiterate my query from the locked thread:

So here's an admission of a secret shame: I've never played Wasteland. I'm very aware of its reputation, and I was always interested at about the right time, I just never... got around to it.

I need to rectify this.

How can I, legally? I don't think I've noticed it on any DD services, it's way too old to be reasonably available in shops, it doesn't seem to have ever been rereleased. Is there no option outside eBay (which is also not exactly straining under the weight of copies)?

I wonder if there's any chance of a DD version of the *first* game as a reward tier if we were to ask Fargo really nicely.

 

[Alexios]

Want the $50 one but it seems a bit expensive for what it offers (considering the game's not gonna be some big budget production yet that's the standard retail price with only the map being a real extra) so will settle for the $15. Maybe if it included the full novel.

 

[jett]

Wow at their target...well good luck with that Mr. Fargo. Never played Wasteland, is still a playable game?

 

[rainking187]

DF locked the sum on my card though so I wasn't able to use it.

Weird, usually I just get a temporary $1 charge when I back a Kickstarter project.

 

[subversus]

My prediction - 150 000 - 200 000 in 24 hours.

 

[Polk]

It seems to be raising pretty fast considering it's early in the morning.



They don't charge until the last day, so there is no refunding needed.

Morning? It's 2PM.
I'll back it once I get back from work.

 

[Violet_0]

pledged $15, it's not much but oh well

 

[Kyouji]

Pledged, and I'm replaying Wasteland to celebrate.

Good luck, Brian & co!

 

[duckroll]

Actually, we should re-purpose the tone of the OP into a "HELP PROVE NIROLAK WRONG" thing. Does anyone have any good suggestions so I can edit it in?

 

[AndyMoogle]

Wow at their target...well good luck with that Mr. Fargo. Never played Wasteland, is still a playable game?

While they have made generic and boring games in the past, this should be more up their alley.

EDIT: Damn your edit

 

[Xater]

Wow at their target...well good luck with that Mr. Fargo. Never played Wasteland, is still a playable game?

I am willing to risk 15 bucks. Doubt it can be worse than some PSN or XBLA games I bought for that price.

 

[AndyMoogle]

Morning? It's 2PM.
I'll back it once I get back from work.

I meant in North America. I'm assuming that's where most backers will come from.

 

[duckroll]

I am willing to risk 15 bucks. Doubt it can be worse than some PSN or XBLA games I bought for that price.

I think he's asking about the original. The original is a pretty solid game but not very "playable" today if you're not already used to the oldschool interface and balance of PC RPGs of that time. You will probably create a party, start the game, and die in the first 15 minutes before you get to any worthwhile location, and the majority of your experience will be text telling you how horribly your people died.

 

[Xater]

I meant in North America. I'm assuming that's where most backers will come from.

Why would you assume that? PC gaming and Europe go hand in hand.

 

[duckroll]

Why would you assume that? PC gaming and Europe go hand in hand.

If that's the case, they should probably put more priority on localization of the game to European languages. I see nothing at all in their Kickstarter about other languages. Disappointing.

 

[AndyMoogle]

Why would you assume that? PC gaming and Europe go hand in hand.

True, but it feels like Fallout and Wasteland have more fans over there than here in Europe.

 

[Sinatar]

I kicked in $30.

 

[Noisepurge]

50$ pledged! That cloth map...

I think he's asking about the original. The original is a pretty solid game but not very "playable" today if you're not already used to the oldschool interface and balance of PC RPGs of that time. You will probably create a party, start the game, and die in the first 15 minutes before you get to any worthwhile location, and the majority of your experience will be text telling you how horribly your people died.

I hope its more akin to Fallout 1&2 by gameplay and UI.

 

[subversus]

Why would you assume that? PC gaming and Europe go hand in hand.

well, he is right about this but Poland is the third by the number of likes on their Facebook page.

If that's the case, they should probably put more priority on localization of the game to European languages. I see nothing at all in their Kickstarter about other languages. Disappointing.

Fargo said that they will localize it in Polish at least.

 

[FnordChan]

Actually, we should re-purpose the tone of the OP into a "HELP PROVE NIROLAK WRONG" thing. Does anyone have any good suggestions so I can edit it in?

How about this:

WASTELAND 2 AHHHHHHHH! GO HERE RIGHT NOW RIGHT HERE AND GIVE BRIAN FARGO YOUR MONEY! GO GO GO PLEDGE PLEDGE PLEDGE NOW NOW NOW AAAAAAHHHHHH!

I mean, that was my reaction.

FnordChan, in for fifty

 

[Larsen B]

I'm considering my backing an optimistic punt rather than getting in on the ground floor of a great project.

I'd love for this to happen and be great but I'm a little sceptical too. Not Nirolak levels, of course.

 

[FateBreaker]

That was a pretty well-done video. I am interested in this project. Hmmm.

 

[dude]

If that's the case, they should probably put more priority on localization of the game to European languages. I see nothing at all in their Kickstarter about other languages. Disappointing.

Is localisation really that big of a deal in Europe?
I see prioritizing localization as potentially limiting the amount and depth of texts - I think most fans would much rather see the money spent on content tan on localisation... Maybe I'm wrong though.

 

[Acosta]

well, he is right about this but Poland is the third by the number of likes on their Facebook page.

I'm considering emigrating to Poland. Cheaper prices, beautiful women and lots of RPG fans. What more I could ask?

 

[subversus]

I'm considering emigrating to Poland. Cheaper prices, beautiful women and lots of RPG fans. What more I could ask?

Higher wages!

well, they have lower prices at least.

 

[Maxrunner]

I never played the original but i did play fallout 1 and 2...i wonder if ill like this...