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True Endings as DLC?!

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Messofanego

Banned
DLC trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ADe2vYUbWc

They even use it as a SELLING POINT in the trailer!

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And you have to pay $6.99 for it. I don't even care about the game (Asura's Wrath in this case), but this practice has jumped the shark. It's finally here, the butt of all microtransaction jokes. Even for PoP 08 or Alan Wake, those were just epilogues that were never billed as "true conclusions".










Oh wait, it's Capcom.
 
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John Harker

Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
I imagine this is exactly what all your ME3 whining is going to get you!

Sending thousands of dollars worth of cupcakes?
Sure, write EA a check why don't you. All your doing is demonstrating demand for content, and demand = profit.

But yea, whoever wrote that copy... that's just baiting people. Poor move.
 
M

morningbus

Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
C'mon man. I'm sure the ending wasn't developed at the same time as the rest of the game.
 
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CorvoSol

Member
Isn't this the entire point of a sequel? I mean, I know there's a distinction here, but the line seems kinda blurry.
 
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ShockingAlberto

Member
I remember when "They'll make a bad ending, wait for fan outcry, and sell the real ending as DLC!" was the worst-case scenario people envisioned for DLC at the start of this generation.

Oh, how time flies.
 
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FStop7

Banned
John Harker said:
I imagine this is exactly what all your ME3 whining is going to get you!

Sending thousands of dollars worth of cupcakes?
Sure, write EA a check why don't you. All your doing is demonstrating demand for content, and demand = profit.

But yea, whoever wrote that copy... that's just baiting people. Poor move.
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Yes, it's the user's fault for being upset that a game had an incomplete/shitty ending.
 
S

Sinatar

Official GAF Bottom Feeder
Bethesda did it with Fallout 3, Ubisoft did it with PoP 2008, the rest of the industry is just playing catch up now.
 
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Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
FFXIII-2, Asura's Wrath, and ME3 are all games I played almost in a row that are all seeming to offer DLC endings. Pretty weird.
 
S

Schweinehund

Member
Never buying into it.

Whatever game company can cry their heart out to legislatures for SOPA or Protect IP, while I watch the endings on youtube.
 
C

chickdigger802

Banned
I'd usually be pretty furious about this stuff... but man that dlc trailer looks fucking amazing.

True conclusion is shitty wording...

but for the most part, I'd rather have dlc stuff to happen after the end of the game instead of the beginning or in the middle, like how they do it with ME2 and AC games.
 
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Volcynika

Member
Papercuts said:
FFXIII-2, Asura's Wrath, and ME3 are all games I played almost in a row that are all seeming to offer DLC endings. Pretty weird.
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So you're saying you're behind all this!

Though I don't mind, the game's original ending I had no issues with. More content is fine with me.
 
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HP_Wuvcraft

Banned
FStop7 said:
Yes, it's the user's fault for being upset that a game had an incomplete/shitty ending.
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.... well.... yeah.

It's not the devs fault that you didn't personally like their story. You can hide behind "it was incomplete" all you want, but at the end of the day, you're just upset because you didn't like something. This is not an objective situation.
 
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Eusis

Member
ShockingAlberto said:
I remember when "They'll make a bad ending, wait for fan outcry, and sell the real ending as DLC!" was the worst-case scenario people envisioned for DLC at the start of this generation.

Oh, how time flies.
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I THINK part of that worst case scenario was that you'd have to buy new or buy the ending separate, but that was probably just a throwaway comment by Epic staff. I'd have to see how good/bad the ending for Asura's Wrath even IS though, maybe it's just extra crap no one really needed, or so I'd hope. I guess the big thing is whether or not the ending was intentionally bad TO sell DLC for, and FFXIII-2 seems an example of that (though it's so amazing I almost hope it's THE ending) and perhaps this, though ME3's exempt since the head honchos apparently seriously felt it was a good ending.
Sinatar said:
Bethesda did it with Fallout 3, Ubisoft did it with PoP 2008, the rest of the industry is just playing catch up now.
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Fallout 3 I'd STILL say "ended" when it originally did, given how little value Broken Steel actually is for story. It's pretty much just an excuse to not have your game end END when it originally did. And PoP 2008 was pretty clearly an epilogue to me, the original ending was just fine and could only REALLY be addressed with a sequel, and that still holds true with the DLC factored in.

EDIT: Guess whether or not the ending was fine was addressed, and it was. Maybe this is closer to an Epilogue or even a small Part 2?
 
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Forsaken82

Member
Messofanego said:
DLC trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ADe2vYUbWc

They even use it as a SELLING POINT in the trailer!

iidWwysVjjIwa.jpg


And you have to pay $6.99 for it. I don't even care about the game (Asura's Wrath in this case), but this practice has jumped the shark. It's finally here, the butt of all microtransaction jokes. Even for PoP 08 or Alan Wake, those were just epilogues that were never billed as "true conclusions".




Oh wait, it's Capcom.
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Out of curiosity... would you rather wait 2 years for a full priced finale?
 
M

Misfits

Neo Member
i disagree about alan wake. the original ending was complete and set up a sequel with the dlc expanding on that to fill the gaps between the ending of the first game and the start of the sequel.
 
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SykoTech

Member
I hate getting games in bits in pieces like this. At first it was mainly multiplayer stuff, which didn't bother me too much since I'm mainly a single player guy. But now it looks like selling parts of the story as DLC is becoming common.

Guess I'm just gonna be screwed once next gen gets here. :/
 
BurningNad

BurningNad

Member
Forsaken82 said:
Out of curiosity... would you rather wait 2 years for a full priced finale?
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I'd prefer to get a full game, especially when I drop $60 on it in the first place (no, don't come in here saying how you've not bought a game at full price in months/years and how everyone who does it is a sucker (just to clarify, not aiming this at anyone in particular), they're charging $60 for this, sales don't make up for lazy/money grubbing developers.)

To add in a "true" ending for $7, is ludicrous. The game wasn't advertised as being episodic, so I would expect the full game to be in the initial purchase. DLC can have other, add-on content, but it should be just that... not something that "completes" the game experience.
 
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Jubern

Member
Des0lar said:
Just wait until you can buy the true true ending
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They'll sell you the game with an online pass that includes the ending, but in order to get the good one you'll need to buy "Collector's edition"/Day 1 DLC, then later another $6.99 for a DLC that "goes deeper in the lore".

Genius!
 
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Eusis

Member
Multiplayer has always been worse in a way actually. It's actively fragmenting a user base and barring some people from ever seriously getting invested because they need to ALSO buy DLC to either play with their friends or even play at all. There's a reason Valve only charges for hats, and weapons you can earn on your own (and don't throw off the balance I believe).
 
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SolidSnakex

Member
The main game ends in the same style that you see with a lot of games. It closes one of the main storylines and then leaves another open for a sequel. In this case it just seems like they're going to continue that story through DLC since it probably won't receive a sequel (which sucks since I really liked AW).
 
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ultron87

Member
In the other thread about this people seemed like they were perfectly satisfied with AW's ending and that getting to follow up on the true ending teaser with a 7 dollar download instead of a full priced sequel was fine.
 
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SykoTech

Member
SolidSnakex said:
The main game ends in the same style that you see with a lot of games. It closes one of the main storylines and then leaves another open for a sequel. In this case it just seems like they're going to continue that story through DLC since it probably won't receive a sequel (which sucks since I really liked AW).
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Well, okay. As long as it ends in a satisfying way. I was thinking FFXIII-2 or ME3 at first.
 
B

Bebpo

Banned
What's sad is if people buy into this, EVERYONE is going to start doing it. Why miss out on that additional $7-10 if you leave the ending off and make it DLC?

Online Pass pt.2
 
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BHZ Mayor

Member
This "sell the ending" scenario is actually becoming a reality. I'm morbidly curious about just how far this DLC nonsense is going to go next gen.
 
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patapuf

Member
I'm fine with DLC that picks up the story where it ended and continues. Since real expansion packs are dead, i guess such small episodes will become more common.

of course that requires the ending of the main game to actually be satisfying. If it isn't i understand feeling ripped off.
 
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Forsaken82

Member
BurningNad said:
I'd prefer to get a full game, especially when I drop $60 on it in the first place (no, don't come in here saying how you've not bought a game at full price in months/years and how everyone who does it is a sucker, they're charging $60 for this, sales don't make up for lazy/money grubbing developers.)

To add in a "true" ending for $7, is ludicrous. The game wasn't advertised as being episodic, so I would expect the full game to be in the initial purchase. DLC can have other, add-on content, but it should be just that... not something that "completes" the game experience.
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How long is each of these episodes? Maybe its worth the 7 dollar price tag? I would much rather pay 7 dollars for an official ending, than pay 60 dollars or whatever for a sequel that i essentially have to trek through potentially 80% of filler before I can officially conclude my story...

I mean look at the complaints that a game like ME2 got. The biggest complaint (granted, not mine of course, I loved the game) is that it did little in regards to the moving the main storyline forward and that was a full priced game. I am certainly not saying that long winded sequels/climaxes shouldnt exist, but I would rather pay less to get right to the ending than wait a few years for an official sequel/conclusion that involves a lot of filler to reach that point.

it could be as simple as the game isn't doing well enough to warrant a sequel and instead they would rather finish the tale on the cheap.
 
D

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
Bebpo said:
What's sad is if people buy into this, EVERYONE is going to start doing it. Why miss out on that additional $7-10 if you leave the ending off and make it DLC?

Online Pass pt.2
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Then I really will wait for GOTY versions of every game
 
H

HP_Wuvcraft

Banned
BHZ Mayor said:
This "sell the ending" scenario is actually becoming a reality. I'm morbidly curious about just how far this DLC nonsense is going to go next gen.
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At some point, we'll hit a level of critical mass where the player refuses to pay for DLC.

Then we will have hit a singularity.

Then the Reapers will come.
 
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Starwolf_UK

Member
Its to fund development costs.

Personally I'm interested if we'll see some sort of inverse to what we have today whereby the super goty version comes out with all DLC free and costs less instead having other way round where the early adopter gets all content, everyone else gets game for $20 with half of it missing and in a spoiled brown paper bag.

Then again the goty version basically kills used sales of non-goty (by being a similar price point), maybe not.

Oh who am I kidding, offline pass is here to stay.
 
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ShockingAlberto

Member
If you take it as a slippery slope arguments, then ideally you want to make the worst ending possible to facilitate buying newer ones.

It reminds me of this SMBC comic

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Dunan

Member
The Mana Legend said:
Can I have a new ending to Human Revolution please?
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Don't say this; HR has been sitting in my backlog for three months and I was just thinking of playing it.

Now, Ubisoft, could we maybe have the Assassin's Creed Revelations ending without having to pay extra for it?
 
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