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True Endings as DLC?!
- Thread starter Messofanego
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What if both happen!?
SolidSnakex
Member
I think the main problem is that a lot of people just haven't played AW, so they're thinking that the game just cuts off at a certain point without giving you an acceptable conclusion.
By the end of the game you'll complete the mission that you set out for at the beginning of the game. It's just that at a certain point in the story you'll slowly see another story thread start to develop and that's the one that's eventually used as the cliffhanger.
I wanted to do this thread myself.
this shit is preposterous. They basically sell you 70-80$ game + some other DLC sometimes.
From the recent industry practices this one is the worst one. And this will affect my purchases from now on. Before buying the game I will always ask here - IF THERE IS AN ENDING???? if yes, I'm buying it. If not I'm waiting for sale.
this shit is preposterous. They basically sell you 70-80$ game + some other DLC sometimes.
From the recent industry practices this one is the worst one. And this will affect my purchases from now on. Before buying the game I will always ask here - IF THERE IS AN ENDING???? if yes, I'm buying it. If not I'm waiting for sale.
The "Epilogue" ending to POP 2008 is just as inconclusive as the original ending and has been entirely overblown by people that never played it. It perfectly fits the description of an epilogue and gives people that wanted a bit more game some more game.
Metalmurphy
Member
I don't think it was overblown at all. Basically the final minutes of the original ending are there solely to get you to buy the DLC. That's... just wrong on so many level.s
notworksafe
Member
For what it's worth the first DLC download seems to be 1.08gb. So it seems a decent portion of the content is being developed after the main game development was finished.
There's a DLC ending? Lost Archives isn't an ending.
You had to wait three years for that one and what a disappointment it was.
I don't agree with the sentiments surrounding Prince of Persia '08 or Alan Wake. Those were obviously epilogues with extra end-game content. There's nothing wrong with that. What is wrong is cutting off the ending to a game and then selling it back as DLC. Or pulling a Bioware and putting such a shit ending in the game that they can get away with selling a better ending again as DLC. It's an extremely fine line to walk.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Ruining the emotional impact of the ending as a whole.
Haunted
Member
I liked the original PoP 2008 ending.
The game was finished as it was, so I didn't see the need to buy epilogue DLC or whatever.
But that'll happen sooner or later. Getting to see how the story ends is a really strong incentive for people to buy the DLC.
The game was finished as it was, so I didn't see the need to buy epilogue DLC or whatever.
Yeah, basically.
But that'll happen sooner or later. Getting to see how the story ends is a really strong incentive for people to buy the DLC.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
I just finished this like an hour ago. Fuck that ending.
The epilogue was an excuse to sell an extra area in the game with some story that covers the gap for the sequel. The vanilla game has an (awesome) ending and conclusive to boot. The DLC ending is downright crap and sours the original ending. But it is not the same case, not at all.
nckillthegrimace
Member
Yeah. It was one of those sappy what would you do for love kind of endings, but I liked it. Totally stands on its own, and Ubisoft could have easily made a follow up game instead of that dumb epilogue that doesn't do anything.
Was this confirmed? Because there's plenty of cliffhangers that lead into a sequel that do that sort of thing (not the DLC, how the original ending worked) and it didn't really feel like the DLC "completed" it so much as provided an epilogue and a bridging bit of story to the next game. They feasibly could've just started the sequel like that instead had they made one.
Of course, that also highlights why I hate the trend to end new games on cliffhangers, if there's no reasonable guarantee of a sequel then don't fucking set things up for a two parter, trilogy, or further. Hell, it's still annoying if there IS that guarantee, not unless the sequel's going to come out stupid fast, and that seemed to only be viable on the PS2.
The original ending, final minutes and all, was fantastic. The only scummy part of the transaction would be if they ever marketed the DLC as an actual climax or conclusion to the story instead of an epilogue.
The ending would've been actually perfect if they had given you the choice to just walk away.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
I was unbelievably angry when I first found this out. It felt like the sum of all videogame DLC wrongs made flesh... I should have made the topic back then. But here we are.
Asura's Bullshit.
Asura's Bullshit.
Such a blue balls ending. I'm hoping the ending of Darksiders 2 gives us some hint about what's going to happen from there. We better not get the same damn cinematic from Death's perspective.
The_Hitcher89
Member
The only time I'd buy an ending would be if a sequel was planned and canned
Gross. Welcome to next-gen gaming.
I hope consumers take note of this emerging trend and voice their outrage. DLC is supposed to expand/add to the game, not patch in something that should be there to begin with, you know, like a true conclusion. As much as I loved FFXIII-2, I get more and more annoyed I'll have to pay another $10-15 to see the ending (on top of the $80 I already spent on the CE) if they go the DLC route and don't crank out another sequel.
And that PoP 2008 epilogue was totally unnecessary. the game ended on a down note, but it had closure. The DLC, while great fun, just set up a cliffhanger for a sequel that is never to be.
I hope consumers take note of this emerging trend and voice their outrage. DLC is supposed to expand/add to the game, not patch in something that should be there to begin with, you know, like a true conclusion. As much as I loved FFXIII-2, I get more and more annoyed I'll have to pay another $10-15 to see the ending (on top of the $80 I already spent on the CE) if they go the DLC route and don't crank out another sequel.
And that PoP 2008 epilogue was totally unnecessary. the game ended on a down note, but it had closure. The DLC, while great fun, just set up a cliffhanger for a sequel that is never to be.
RedNumberFive
Banned
I would have expected nothing less from Capcpom.
... But guys, the ending was made on a different budget, you're just being entitled!
The more we let them slide on shit like this, the more they're going to take advantage of us.
... But guys, the ending was made on a different budget, you're just being entitled!
The more we let them slide on shit like this, the more they're going to take advantage of us.
IC_Champion
Member
Figures. Who here is going to wait until a couple of months down the line when this is released all in one downloadable bundle, or an Asura's Wrath Complete Edition on disc?
notworksafe
Member
I am curious about this as well.
So far this thread just seems to be people that don't own the game saying they won't buy the DLC for a game they don't own and haven't played (or refuse to buy the game because of DLC that adds an ending that may or may not be needed for closure).
Nope, I felt it was fine. I'm glad I have this and don't have to wait for a sequel that may never come.
clutch.as.it.gets.
Member
This.
Also all those DLC stuff turns me toward the used game market. For me the games get unappealing with all that micropayment going on and are not worth to purchase for full price.
notworksafe
Member
So would you say it's an ending needed for closure or more likely just an expansion pack sort of deal?
Ragingnight
Member
To the people already judging capcom, can you atleast play the game first and finish so you have some credibility?
There are people that own the game, beaten the game and are saying the game is solely complete story wise. But I guess everybody loves to jump on the hate-wagon
There are people that own the game, beaten the game and are saying the game is solely complete story wise. But I guess everybody loves to jump on the hate-wagon
Yeah, I'm one of those people. And with FFXIII-2 and ME3 coming out recently, I guess I instantly thought of this in a negative way. Granted, I haven't gotten around to FFXIII-2 or ME3 yet either. But based on the reactions, it's pretty much unversial that those endings aren't satisfying.
More an expansion than anything else.
Riposte
Member
Sorry I'm too busy playing off my prejudices and jumping to conclusions.
The_eJoker
Member
I hate when you have to finish a game on hard mode or complete 100% jut to see a the real ending... But this is outrageous.
notworksafe
Member
People that played the game seem to have enjoyed it and are seeing this as a nice bonus. I think the "terrible developer" thing seems to be coming from your own prejudices, not from any experience with the game or its ending.
Oh, so you're a GAF member.
God damn developers providing gamers with the opportunity to get some more content that chronologically follows a satisfying ending in a game they enjoyed.
PairOfFilthySocks
Member
Huh?
His wife wakes up randomly by the sea, and he goes into some sort of coma. There's no conclusion at all. Devs shouldn't make a blatant cliff-hanger that doesn't even try to wrap things up if they don't know for sure whether they'll get to make a sequel.
This, I am OK with. I haven't played AW so I don't know how it ends. So if it's an more of expansion and less of a completion, then sure, cool with me.
What's not cool is half-assed cliffhangers followed by $10 DLC with the "complete ending" or whatever.
Zoe
Member
There still isn't confirmation that there will be a separate DLC ending.
Messofanego
Banned
In this case, it might be just bad marketing, haven't played the game. But when you put it in bold capital letters, it's hard to ignore the intent.
I'll wait until they release the true true game. Like with gameplay.
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