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The Wii U Speculation Thread V: The Final Frontier

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Hoo-doo

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I think the Wii-U will be the first console ever to be able to tackle a proper MMO without compromising.

Plenty of space for hotkeys and UI on the tablet. Technically it also could display a on-screen keyboard for text chat.
 
The sheer amount of abilities per character would be enough to drive me completely away from that, touch screen or not.

Unless they announce a keyboard for it.
I don't see why it wouldn't work on a pad. Either it just has everything on the touch screen or it uses the faces buttons with the shoulder buttons as modifiers, which would give you twelve slots with two and 24 with all four.
 

guit3457

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I think the real question is... would Nintendo allow cross platform play with competitors.

I have been playing Dota 2 for a week and it would be fantastic to have the game on the Wii U with a Steam app to allow cross game.

I know Valve is not going to announce anything new but Dota 2 was already announced.

The problem would be to find the balance between Keyboard/Mouse PC players and Upad Wii U players (it shouldn't be a problem with an extra haptic/touch screen)

I know I'm dreaming but I see it coming......
 

botty

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guek
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(Yesterday, 03:16 PM)

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On topic -

Even with friend codes, the option for voice chat, messaging, and adding other players (met in game) are extremely limited or non-existent. Hoping for an update around e3 that fixes this.
 
I hope we do get a Star Fox title. I'd like it to be similar to Adventures and not rushed. I actually enjoyed Adventures a lot.

I'll be honest, I loved Adventures. I wanted to play it ever since I saw my first preview of Dinosaur Planet. The ending was terrible and forced, but it was so much fun. Also, I think it was the first 3D/console game I ever completed, so I'm full of bias and nostalgia.
 
Being rushed was the least of Star Fox Adventures' problems. Forced "MASH 'A' TO WIN" segments, among other things. Such a frustrating game.
 

Linkhero1

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^^ I don't remember it being that frustrating. Then again, I did play it years ago.

I'll be honest, I loved Adventures. I wanted to play it ever since I saw my first preview of Dinosaur Planet. The ending was terrible and forced, but it was so much fun. Also, I think it was the first 3D/console game I ever completed, so I'm full of bias and nostalgia.

Ending was forced. If they didn't have to rush the development, it could have been better.
 

Linkhero1

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I know. I always imagined it as Rare's subtle way of saying 'f-you' to NCL for forcing the switch to the Star Fox brand, though I'm not sure how accurate that is.

I believe it's because their talent was leaving and Nintendo kept pushing them to complete the game before they sold them off. Don't think there was any reason for them to say such things towards NCL unless I'm missing something from their past relationship.
 
Even with friend codes, the option for voice chat, messaging, and adding other players (met in game) are extremely limited or non-existent. Hoping for an update around e3 that fixes this.

I hope so but I think the Update will probably come around the Fall Nintendo Direct. BUT my fingers are crossed for an E3 update.
 
I believe it's because their talent was leaving and Nintendo kept pushing them to complete the game before they sold them off. Don't think there was any reason for them to say such things towards NCL unless I'm missing something from their past relationship.

It's very clear even when looking at the game, that Rare was creatively bankrupt. The whole game, even though I still liked it, was a glorified fetch quest compilation, with little redeeming qualities outside of that. It sure looked great though with the fur/grass shader, and the crisp textures and amazing light effects, but the integration of the Starfox characters was so ridiculously bad, as was the whole delivery of the story, characters and cutscenes.

The game was a mess, but still enjoyable to some degree.

Still, I would not want to see another version of it. For one because I think that the Starfox cast isn't working outside the context of cheesy one liners from a cockpit view, and second because such a game should really become a new IP. Nintendo could introduce a new IP that is similar to Zelda in structure, but free from the series conventions.
 
I hope so but I think the Update will probably come around the Fall Nintendo Direct. BUT my fingers are crossed for an E3 update.

I'd say we're going to see an update close to the WiiUs launch. I also expect that accounts will be introduced to the 3DS when the WiiU comes out. It would be in Nintendos own interest to offer unified accounts that track both the 3DS and WiiU activities, purchases and funds.

I still believe though that we're only going to be able to use a single account on the 3DS at any given time though.
 
I think the Wii-U will be the first console ever to be able to tackle a proper MMO without compromising.

Plenty of space for hotkeys and UI on the tablet. Technically it also could display a on-screen keyboard for text chat.
Both PS2 and XBox 360 had Final Fantasy XI Online with no compromises. You could play the games with a full keyboard, as both systems had working USB ports.
 
Well I just kind of confirmed that there won't be new PS4 reveal at this E3... so this means no new Xbox as well, probably.

So this means this E3 will be all about Wii U. That's good for Nintendo, it will get all the attention it needs (though the expo would be so much better with 2 new hardware reveals).
 
Nintendo could introduce a new IP that is similar to Zelda in structure, but free from the series conventions.
They don't need to, the Wii-U is getting exactly that as a launch title, in Darksiders II.

Well I just kind of confirmed that there won't be new PS4 reveal at this E3... so this means no new Xbox as well, probably.

So this means this E3 will be all about Wii U. That's good for Nintendo, it will get all the attention it needs (though the expo would be so much better with 2 new hardware reveals).
Well yeah, both companies are on record with official announcements saying they aren't even going to be discussing new hardware at E3.
 

disap.ed

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Being rushed was the least of Star Fox Adventures' problems. Forced "MASH 'A' TO WIN" segments, among other things. Such a frustrating game.

I don't know what you mean, the only segment that was frustrating was the test of fear (or however it was named), I never was able to do it. I liked the game to this point though.
 

monome

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Well I just kind of confirmed that there won't be new PS4 reveal at this E3... so this means no new Xbox as well, probably.

So this means this E3 will be all about Wii U. That's good for Nintendo, it will get all the attention it needs (though the expo would be so much better with 2 new hardware reveals).

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MDX

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Being rushed was the least of Star Fox Adventures' problems. Forced "MASH 'A' TO WIN" segments, among other things. Such a frustrating game.

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They don't need to, the Wii-U is getting exactly that as a launch title, in Darksiders II.

It's not an exclusive though. Nintendo really needs to invest into new IPs now. And not some Wii Sports kind of stuff.

Given Nintendos design capabilities, I'd say a new Action Adventure IP is more likely than a shooter.

I don't know what you mean, the only segment that was frustrating was the test of fear (or however it was named), I never was able to do it. I liked the game to this point though.

The collect-a-thons were frustrating as hell, and since those were basically the whole game, you can see how people get frustrated by it.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Uncharted's too rigid and restricted for what I'd expect from Nintendo, though something with similar themes I could see, if they had a Western studio working on it.
 
Both Uncharted and Halo feel like what Nintendo could have done with mature IPs.

I think they will pave their own way, but that's just a hunch.

I'd say Uncharted is closer to it from a genre viewpoint, but I wouldn't expect Nintendo to use a Nathan Drake character. A Nintendo sanctioned mass murderer that exclusively targets non caucasians? Nah not going to happen.

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Here's a wild idea. What if Retro is actually making a modern version of Four Swords for WiiU? Or something similar to that. Full 4 player story coop with gradual difficulty, randomized items and loot, the combat system of the best 3D Zelda games, offline splitscreen, online drop in drop out play, asynchronous online play with handwritten notes in dungeons and treasurehunts... brb changing pants.

Not more than any of the 3D-Zeldas IMHO.

The whole game was a fetch quest, aside from the occasional vehicle segments. It was the main game design. Zelda has them, but never to that extend, and never as the main gameplay drive.
 

botty

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I'd say Uncharted is closer to it from a genre viewpoint, but I wouldn't expect Nintendo to use a Nathan Drake character. A Nintendo sanctioned mass murderer that exclusively targets non caucasians? Nah not going to happen.

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Here's a wild idea. What if Retro is actually making a modern version of Four Swords for WiiU? Or something similar to that. Full 4 player story coop with gradual difficulty, randomized items and loot, the combat system of the best 3D Zelda games, offline splitscreen, online drop in drop out play, asynchronous online play with handwritten notes in dungeons and treasurehunts... brb changing pants.

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It was starting to get hot in here.
 

Sardello

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It's not an exclusive though. Nintendo really needs to invest into new IPs now. And not some Wii Sports kind of stuff.

Given Nintendos design capabilities, I'd say a new Action Adventure IP is more likely than a shooter.
And which is an example of an exclusive game that Nintendo requested to create?

Pandora Tower?

Generally speaking I think that there are some game genres Nintendo is not able to create with bot first or second parties support.

Some Software houses are really focused on one / two genre and when they try to do something different they miserably fail. Only huge publishers, thanks to a grow by acquisition strategy, can secure all genres to be covered in their line-up.

Nintendo in my eyes is very far from being able to fully appeal the western tastes. Retro studios can't do everything
 
Wow. Just read Guek's meltdown. Even back in my day when I had to walk 60 miles each way uphill to school, and the earth hadn't developed it's crust so we were walking on straight mantle and were happy about it, could we get away with that level of blatant namecalling. The boy needs to emotionally divest himself. This board and this industry aren't worth getting that worked up about.
 

BGBW

Maturity, bitches.
The boy needs to emotionally divest himself. This board and this industry aren't worth getting that worked up about.

And if you are going to get worked up about something make sure it is something that GAF will support you in, like giving IGN beef for their GodHand review all day everyday.
 

Kokonoe

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FFXIV taught me one thing. Never again will I purchase a collectors edition for an MMORPG on release. 80 dollars, and then next month it dropped in over half the price. They didn't even send my character portrait/certificate thing in the mail.
 

Nibel

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FFXIV taught me one thing. Never again will I purchase a collectors edition for an MMORPG on release. 80 dollars, and then next month it dropped in over half the price. They didn't even send my character portrait/certificate thing in the mail.

Collectors editions drop in price extremely fast, just like normal editions do. But yeah, FFXIV CE was terrible even for normal standards.

I bought Duke Nukem Forever CE for 50€, and even this was too much for it.
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
To be fair Star Fox Assault has the potential to be the best - it just seems like Namco rushed it and are made up of scraps from the canceled arcade game.
 

BY2K

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I'd say it makes sense though. Once FFXIV is out on PS3 the PS4 will probably be close to launching.

Would be funny if it actually comes out on Wii U before PS3.

But I don't think releasing a MMORPG at launch is a good idea.

There's no install base, the servers are going to be completely empty.

That said, the Wii U controller would be perfect for that kind of games.
 

daakusedo

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Actual concrete rumour even if it's ff XIV, clicky thumb sticks feel like it was so old news, when it was few days ago. That's what happen four weeks from e3, time distortion.
Maybe there will be some other interesting things finally.
I say that cause I'm not too optimistic for major leaks till e3.
 
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