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Wii U: Amazon distributor claims Nov 11 release, $249 price tag. 3 Bundles

Was 3DS released at £250? Nope, at worst you could claim £230, but in reality the price wasn't fixed and most places sold for £180-£200. I got mine for £169 including a game on launch day..


Well you had a better experience than most. Didn't see it for such low a price untill after the price cut. The situation was handled very poorly by Nintendo.
 

EuroMIX

Member
What's the deal with the pricing in Europe, anyway? I feel like I read something about price-fixing being a problem and that being the cause.
 
I also don't see how the system + padlet will be only $50 more than a 3DS XL. It doesn't really make sense.

Back in the day what price was the DSi launched at?
IIRC around the 180-200$/€ mark, whereas Wii launched at 250$/€, just a little more.

I know it may sound crazy, but let's not forget that handhelds are not cheap, no matter how underpowered are in comparison with home consoles.
 

Donnie

Member
Unless you waited for the price wars you were getting seriously boned on launch day.

I pre-ordered mine at Amazon for £199.99, later on I just cancelled my pre-order and got it for £169.99 including a game somewhere else. Even if you pre-ordered at GAME for £230 you could always cancel and get it for far less somewhere else. Fact is its not really accurate to say that its launch price was £230.
 

Donnie

Member
Where did you see it for £180 on the high street at launch? It was £230 at Game etc, cheaper (about £230 with a game) with bundle deals in supermarkets, and cheaper still online. You couldn't get a standalone console for £180 on launch day on the high street, although it dropped a couple of weeks later.

Maybe I'll have a look around tomorrow and find out. I only remember the round about prices, not the stores that sold at each price.
 

redcrayon

Member
Maybe I'll have a look around tomorrow and find out. I only remember the round about prices, not the stores that sold at each price.

To be fair, I didn't mean that to sound quite as hostile and accusatory- perhaps my memory is a bit rusty and I didn't shop around enough, sorry dude. :)
 
Be careful with thisl kind of logic. Do you remember this " Vita" thing?

Actually he's got a valid point.
250$ is cheap enough to appeal a wide share of potential purchasers from the very start, so in a year time WiiU could be leading easily by a good margin, besides if competitors are going to price their next consoles in the 350$/400$ and over, it could be Wii all over again, if Nintendo was able to win mass market the same way another time, despite smartphones and tablets' increasing popularity.
 

redcrayon

Member
What's the deal with the pricing in Europe, anyway? I feel like I read something about price-fixing being a problem and that being the cause.

It's not price fixing, it's just that some sales channels have more buying power than others, amongst other factors. Also, the situation between European countries can vary wildly- currency and shipping differences make gaming in Ireland far more expensive than the UK a stones-throw away for example, let alone Northern or Eastern Europe, some of whom find it cheaper to import from the UK than to buy locally. Before region locking on the 3DS, I also used to import DS games from the US as it worked out cheaper to ship across the pond than to buy from over the road. It's crazy, but there isn't a broad 'European' pricing rule, it's still very much dependent on the market by country.

The UK situation in a nutshell:

Game are probably the most visable retailer to the mass-market, and they are generally the most expensive.
Amazon/Play/Zavvi etc and the online stores undercut them by at least a tenner per item.
The big supermarkets like Tesco and Asda sell popular items (usually only the top 10-20 games and new consoles) cheaper still as loss-leaders, especially in the run-up to Christmas.
Competition between all of the above means that the prices can change on a daily basis in the run-up to a high-profile launch.

This means that if Nintendo gives a trade price of, say, £180, you could see the same item sold for anywhere from £160 to £250 depending on where you look, which day you look and which bundle you go for.

Not only that, but software is generally sold by the online stores from the channel islands, which avoid tax if an item has a value of £18 or less. This means that a popular game can drop from £40 to £17.99 in a couple of months if too many copies are on the market.

This is why Eurogamer and a couple of other news sites do price roundups close to launch that seem to change all the time.
 
Nintendo has to be careful about pricing it too low which could diminish it's value in terms of perception. It's already being compared to the 360 and PS3 so much. For us, though, this is awesome.
 

redcrayon

Member
What else are they up against in terms of being this year's hyped up gadget? The usual phones, tablets and kindles, or something else?
 

jimi_dini

Member
250EUR?

All over my face.

fuck this EUR conversion crap, but at least they won't offer a downgraded Wii U here for the raised price *cough* PS3 *cough*
 
Do you guys really think Nintendo will launch the Wii U without a bundled game, even after seeing how much Wii Sports pushed initial Wii sales?
 

suaveric

Member
Do you guys really think Nintendo will launch the Wii U without a bundled game, even after seeing how much Wii Sports pushed initial Wii sales?

I didn't think so until I saw those ads at Gamestop. Why would they advertise a game they're planning on packing in? I'd think they'd rather spend the money on a game that's not included with everyone's system.
 
Since I've been sold on the Wii U for a long time (and desire for it validated & confirmed at the Wii U Experience a month ago...), I just want them to go ahead and release the information so I can go ahead and preorder this bad boy asap. Since I sold my Wii years ago, I still have a backlog of Wii titles I want to play on it (Zelda: Skyward Sword, Kirby Epic Yarn, Xenoblade, The Last Story, etc,.). I already have Rayman Legends preordered for the wife and Pikmin 3 for me.
 

majik13

Member
I didn't think so until I saw those ads at Gamestop. Why would they advertise a game they're planning on packing in? I'd think they'd rather spend the money on a game that's not included with everyone's system.

well its games that sell systems. you would buy the system to play that game, so they should definitely advertise what is packed in. but I haven't seen said advertising, so you would think the advertisement itself would say if it comes with the system or not. or maybe they still hadnt decided yet at the time of printing. but I doubt it.
 

Het_Nkik

Member
So because we got a hardware revision first, we deserve to be screwed over on a new hardware release?

I know that the US is very likely to get it first anyway, but I don't like this reasoning.

You guys will end up getting more Nintendo-published games than us. That part's not bad trade.
 

Spinluck

Member
I don't see Nintendo doing 3 SKUs, 2 at max.

And if these are indeed real, if the one packed with Wii stuff comes with the Wii-Mote with built in Motion Plus, I will bite.
 

AntMurda

Member
Do you guys really think Nintendo will launch the Wii U without a bundled game, even after seeing how much Wii Sports pushed initial Wii sales?

Uhmm yeah when there is a game called New Super Mario Bros. U and Nintendo Land alongside it. A game can push a hardware without being bundled, especially if it has an instantly sellable ip.
 
I think the options are good for consumers as it makes it more inviting. Though with 3 sets, doesn't that means 6 for the black color? 6 versions of the console at launch?
 

IrishNinja

Member
$250: WiiU + Upad
$300: WiiU + Upad + NintendoLand + Wiimote
$350: WiiU + Upad + NintendoLand + Wiimote + Pro Controller

this sounds about right by me, and i'm in for the top tier one here. NSMBU brings it to $400, all i need then is a few point cards for some VC titles i want and i'm golden at launch.
 

linko9

Member
Wow if true. I did not expect them to go under 300, but at 250 I feel like you'll get a lot of impulse buys. Scared Nintendo is best Nintendo.
 

AntMurda

Member
$250: WiiU + Upad
$300: WiiU + Upad + NintendoLand + Wiimote
$350: WiiU + Upad + NintendoLand + Wiimote + Pro Controller

this sounds about right by me, and i'm in for the top tier one here. NSMBU brings it to $400, all i need then is a few point cards for some VC titles i want and i'm golden at launch.

That's rather nonsensical. Why would you make a sku for a pro controller and Nintendo Land? They are not exactly compatible. Might as well bundle the balance board with Nintendo Land for $350.
 

Zeal

Banned
I seriously expect the controller to retail for $79 all the way to $99. Nintendo is basically splitting the hardware of the machine 1:1 with the massive ipad of a controller.

I would have much rather seen the price of the controller go into the console's memory and GPU and kept a more traditional pad, but that's a discussion for another time.
 

IrishNinja

Member
That's rather nonsensical. Why would you make a sku for a pro controller and Nintendo Land? They are not exactly compatible. Might as well bundle the balance board with Nintendo Land for $350.

how you figure? both are going to be items that will likely sell big at launch, and the controller is for VC, wii games supporting CCP (i imagine?) and a ton of stuff forthcoming presumably, so no, i dont think that's accurate at all.

additionally, aren't games like nintendoland setup expecting 1 person to have a wiimote and others to use wiimotes/etc? so why exactly would a pro not work there?
 

SMT

this show is not Breaking Bad why is it not Breaking Bad? it should be Breaking Bad dammit Breaking Bad
Hopefully the 'W' stands for wired connection, as in DSL input.
 

Stoof

Member
how you figure? both are going to be items that will likely sell big at launch, and the controller is for VC, wii games supporting CCP (i imagine?) and a ton of stuff forthcoming presumably, so no, i dont think that's accurate at all.

additionally, aren't games like nintendoland setup expecting 1 person to have a wiimote and others to use wiimotes/etc? so why exactly would a pro not work there?

I personally figure the last one makes no sense because I can't see how Nintendo would add $50 just for including the Pro Controller which would probably be $40 at most.
 

jmizzal

Member
That's rather nonsensical. Why would you make a sku for a pro controller and Nintendo Land? They are not exactly compatible. Might as well bundle the balance board with Nintendo Land for $350.

Plus Nintendo is not gonna charge 50 more bucks for Wiimote, and then 50 more for a pro controller

With WiiU coming out Wiimote's will drop in price and a CC pro only cost like 19.99, why spend 50 extra just for pro controller when its almost the same thing?
 

goomba

Banned
I think thell be one offical SKU

Amazon etc may offer bundles themselves though.

US$250 - 299

Wii U
GamePad
Wiimote

Built in demos and / or eShop credit.
 

Jawmuncher

Member
If true, I wonder if the 249 is just the system, tablet and no game.Second is with a game.
Third with a game and pro controller?

Just a guess.

I'd be fine with that.
Since the buindled game would be nintenoland or something which I have no interest in.
Wow if 249 is the entry price, I might just grab this day 1 with Zombi U
 

IrishNinja

Member
I personally figure the last one makes no sense because I can't see how Nintendo would add $50 just for including the Pro Controller which would probably be $40 at most.

i hope you're right, $40 sounds right but i could see them starting at $50, weren't wireless 360 sticks and DS3's around that price for a while?

Plus Nintendo is not gonna charge 50 more bucks for Wiimote, and then 50 more for a pro controller

With WiiU coming out Wiimote's will drop in price and a CC pro only cost like 19.99, why spend 50 extra just for pro controller when its almost the same thing?

but tier 2 isn't $50 for a wiimote, its wiimote + nintendoland. that sounds more likely to me than even a $50 pro controller.

this one's more standard with the other system controllers though, and doesnt need to be plugged into a wiimote, which is a big plus for me. also uh, power button? i dunno.
 
Cheaper 360s and ps3s this fall will seem like a much better deal than a $250 wii u, which merely matches those machines and has an overpriced, underspec'd tablet

The problem with wii u really isn't price though. $250 is ok, not great, but if the machine were appealing it would sell at an even higher price. I expect $400 ps4s and 720s to have much higher demand, for instance.
 
Problem with that is most people already own a PS3/360 and the Wii U is the new toy to have this xmas.

I see it selling quite a bit this holiday.

True. But I still see ps3 and 360 having a good holiday season in spite of wii u's launch, which will certainly sell OK but won't match the hysteria of the wii's launch. The real test, IMHO, will be the post holiday sales.
 
Wow, 249 is insane. I was expecting 349 and maybe a better version for 399. Idk about getting it day 1, but I will definitely get it when the first game I'm interested is out instead of waiting for a price drop.
 

Medalion

Banned
If the price is too high, too expensive...fail
Too cheap, means the product must not be very good

Can't win, don't try, got it
 
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