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Gamasutra: If MS moneyhatted an exclusive next-gen version of GTA5, they'd kill Sony

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Somnid

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When MS did this with GTA4 it was mostly a non-issue because GTA aside from selling well doesn't seem to have the console pushing factor it once used to. CoD is definitely going to be in the same boat. You can't build a console on last-gen franchises, it rarely works. New catalyst games will be the decisive factor and we have no idea what those will be.
 
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mavs

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Doesn't that mean it would be worth more to Sony? They'd just pay Rockstar to release the game on PS4 non-exclusively.
 
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DaBuddaDa

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Even if Microsoft offered an obscene, unheard of amount of money to Activision for CoD exclusivity, the fans wouldn't be like "Oh, oh well, guess I won't buy an Orbis."

There would be a massive, public outcry against Activision and Microsoft beyond anything we've ever seen before.
 
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Pungza

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Didnt take long for the first ps4 doom thread. And anyway they would need to moneyhat an obscene amount to get exclusive.
 
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Coolwhip

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Good one. Not only would it take a huge sum of money (xbox isn't exactly making MS money) it would also piss off Sony. Take two wouldn't want to destroy their relationship with Sony. So nope.
 
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Snowden's Secret

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Eurogamer is smarter than this. The cost to do this would be immense, and the payoff pretty paltry (because current gen versions still exist and those are the ones that will sell the best).

Edit: Gamasutra, not Eurogamer (Gamasutra should know even better).
 
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Zeouterlimits

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Don't think it'd happen.

Perhaps that's a nieve faith, but I believe Rockstar when they say they just wanted more polish.

I can see Xbox getting exclusive content, but limiting it to next gen would be a mistake when it comes to treating your customers well/brand loyalty
 
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Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
I updated the thread title, because the original thread title was click-bait. A good rule for thread titles is that thread titles which summarize a person's argument are good, while thread titles which summarize a person's conclusion are bad; a thread title which identifies the speaker is good, which a thread title which doesn't identify the speaker or doesn't identify that there's a speaker is bad. A thread title should report the info in the most boring way possible.

The policy for using articles original titles: If the original title is a bad title, don't use it. If the original title is a good title, do use it. If you make up your own title, make sure it accurately represents the content.

The original thread title was "How MS will kill Sony at the Start of next gen". A lot of news sites are guilty of this kind of stuff. I remember HuffingtonPost had a front page article a few months ago with the title "Obama to address major issue". What major issue? How is he addressing it? When is he addressing it? Who says he's addressing it? News sites do it because they do click bait--they want you to click as many times as possible, and they want people who are not interested in the actual content to still be forced to click it. They want an attention grab. That's a bad thing for readers, so they shouldn't do it, and neither should we.

No harm no foul, so no need to quote this post to apologize, I'm just posting this so that anyone who reads can maybe take a few seconds to consider their title a little better the next time they make the thread.
 
quickwhips

quickwhips

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They don't have to make COD exclusive to XBOX it can still come to PS3. They just have to stop it from going to PS4 for 1-2 years. But I doubt it would happen. GTA V maybe but even then I doubt it.
 
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sleepykyo

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DaBuddaDa said:
Microsoft would have to drop what, half a billion dollars at least to pry CoD away from PS4? C'mon man.
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It's not like Microsoft has to buy total exclusivity. Just 1st installment on the next gen consoles. The orbis won't have that much potential sales at the start.

edit: Damn you, quickwhips.
 
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surly

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TheRedSnifit said:
The chances of anybody securing exclusive rights to GTA and CoD are rather low. If the industry works the way I think it does, MS would have to pay a ridiculously high price to compensate Rockstar and Activision for the reduced sales.
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Yeah, no way would MS pay a ridiculously high price for something.
 
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Tenki

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StuBurns said:
Well, no, but what if they paid for lots of others too? No Assassin's Creed, no Battlefield, no Fifa, no Madden, no Respawn game, then they'd kill PS4. It'd cost about ten billion dollars to do it, but that's money well spent to end Sony's residence in the market I guess.
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Microsoft is going to waste 10B just to kill PS4. Sure.
 
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MrNyarlathotep

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Honest question, do you think GTA5 is going to be 'the one game that rules them all' when it comes out?

GTA4 had pretty crappy multiplayer, and the backlash for the singleplayer kicked in pretty quickly.

The MS moneyhatting for DLC left a bad taste in the mouth of PC and PS3 owners, and the most recent Rockstar game with an extended budget and development time - Max Payne 3 - wasn't exactly GOTY.

GTA4 was also - IIRC - far lower in sales than either SA or VC, even before their rereleases on iOS and Android.
 
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OnimaruXLR

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Untalkative_Bunny said:
If MS can make sure that COD doesnt show up on Orbis next gen as well, I see the Orbis dead.
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I'm not even sure this is true. The move to next generation hardware is not an assumed one for a lot of gamers, especially with the Xbox's function as a after-market set top box. I think the deciding factor for next gen will be something brand new or something brand new to consoles (Free to play, MOBAs/LOMAs) and not just a prettier version of what was hot last time
 
BadAss2961

BadAss2961

Member
Even if Microsoft came up with the money to make this worth considering, would Activision and Rockstar want to do it? For them, it pays for both platforms to do well in the long run so they can sell as many copies of future releases as possible. Especially Activision, who releases Call of Duty every year.
 
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AF_Writer

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That's truly a silly assumption. I don't think GTA is the blockbuster and must-have game it once was, and while it might be a nice feather in Microsoft's hat if it ends up being exclusive to the next Xbox, it certainly won't be a deciding factor for many gamers on what console to buy.
 
UberTag

UberTag

Member
So now third-party exclusives will never happen because they're too expensive? Gotcha.
Guess Sony has nothing to worry about. Just keep releasing systems on par with Microsoft for the indefinite future and third-parties will just naturally develop for both.
In fact, why bother paying for timed-exclusivity on COD maps and any DLC for that matter?
It's just pissing money away right, GAF?

And if Microsoft did have exclusivity of GTAV or Destiny or any game for that matter... it wouldn't matter.
People will naturally flock to Sony's first-party IPs regardless. Just like they do today for PS3 and Vita.
Everything is sunshine and lollipops.

Microsoft would need the most colossal hat filled with money that ever existed in order to realize any of this.
They would bankrupt their entire gaming division.
They'd never be that stupid.

Have I summed up this thread yet? Or do I need to go on?
 
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MightyHedgehog

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Yes, it's a decent-sounding move but I think most people would rather more original hot new IPs to be the star of the launch. I know I'm not really interested in up-ports at launch. That's a tactic fine for filling out the lineup if sparse, but it really doesn't help sell the new platform's value.
 
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Unknown One

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Activision would be pretty stupid to take that offer if it actually happened. It'll get dethroned by a more accessible game that's multiplatform.
 
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QaaQer

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TheRedSnifit said:
The chances of anybody securing exclusive rights to GTA and CoD are rather low. If the industry works the way I think it does, MS would have to pay a ridiculously high price to compensate Rockstar and Activision for the reduced sales.
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Again, it is not exclusive, just not on orbis. Or if it is, maybe 6 months later. & not my rumour, from Gamasutra.
 
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StuBurns

Banned
Tenki said:
Microsoft is going to waste 10B just to kill PS4. Sure.
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Well, they obviously won't. In fact, I'm not sure they legally could, the monopoly commission would probably kibosh them if they actually tried to do it, or if they tried to just buy all the publishers.

Of course ten billion dollars could be spent far easier to kill Sony, like making the Xbox 3 practically free.
 
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Tallshortman

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lol purchasing both franchises exclusively for a generation would ensure MS would never be profitable with their console and it's not at all guaranteed to "kill" Sony. Also, what a terrible "console warz" article from Gamasutra, usually expect better of them.
 
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mavs

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StuBurns said:
Well, no, but what if they paid for lots of others too? No Assassin's Creed, no Battlefield, no Fifa, no Madden, no Respawn game, then they'd kill PS4. It'd cost about ten billion dollars to do it, but that's money well spent to end Sony's residence in the market I guess.
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They'd end up with a fat juicy antitrust suit if they went far enough.
 
BadAss2961

BadAss2961

Member
AF_Writer said:
That's truly a silly assumption. I don't think GTA is the blockbuster and must-have game it once was, and while it might be a nice feather in Microsoft's hat if it ends up being exclusive to the next Xbox, it certainly won't be a deciding factor for many gamers on what console to buy.
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It would, but it's not gonna happen. lol
 
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Shalashaska161

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To make it exclusive, they would have to pay Activision/Rockstar more than they would make if they released it on Orbis. Which would be in the hundreds of millions of dollars. Like, 400 million dollars, absolute barest minimum. Which is an insane amount of money.

Hell, the stupid exclusive GTA IV DLC thing was 50 million and it was just for DLC, which ended up getting a disc release on the PS3 and PC anyways.
 
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mugoldeneagle03

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Kill is such a strong word. And kill what?

It would boost the launch, but what's to say Sony wont have their own PS4 complete edition with exclusive DLC down the line. Not to mention our current gen has taught me that the word "exclusive" with third party games is a lot less threatening than what is used to be..
 
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watershed

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It looks like an asteroid can easily make the Earth a non-factor.

An asteroid could totally hit the Earth at any moment and kill all life on the planet.
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And if that happens, I don't know how the Earth could recover.

OP is delusional.
 
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