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Bravely Default: Flying Fairy twitter account says they can hear the overseas fans

Teknoman

Member
4 Heroes of light was cool up until the point where you hit a brick wall boss. Havent gone back to it since.

Need to play Dimensions though.
 

cjkeats

Member
Not knowing the context of "Flying Fairy" makes naming this hard, but I don't want to spoil myself on the offchance this will actually come over. I do thing "Brave" needs to be in the title somewhere.

Fleeting Braves: Flying Fairy?

"Final Fantasy presents: A Very Brave Flying Fairy."
 

MagiusNecros

Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Too bad changing the name means losing out on something very clever.

And using the FF moniker really says it isn't a new IP but a subseries and will cause confusion.

Change the name fine, but leave FF out of it.

I think that's the main problem, all Square thinks it can make are FF games and that is not true. But they seem to want to push that line of thought.

And as I said before putting FF and the word "Brave" in the title is only gonna be compared with "All The Bravest" which pissed a lot of people off.

People don't seem to understand that the title has a lot to do with the story, the characters and the battle system. Or they refuse to.
 
Anybody who wants to see this localized should want a name change, if only because a game titled "Bravely Default: Flying Fairy" on the 3DS isn't going to sell shit, which is going to further hurt potential future localizations.
I feel the opposite way may be true, and here's why:
If I see that SE is bringing a unique IP over here, I'm interested. "TWEWY? What's that all about?" I look into it.

If I see Final Fantasy: Subtitle Here, I think "Oh, it's another crappy spin-off." I hate spin-offs. They aren't worth my time 9/10 cases. Auto-skip until someone convinces me otherwise.

Meanwhile, Ni No Kuni, which has a really weird name and no franchise it's building off of, is getting terrific reviews in the USA and sold well.

I think you have to take this on a case-by-case basis. Xenoblade? Great name, Monado was terrible. Let people know you made Xenogears, and this is your next big thing. SE doesn't need to do that, though. SE just needs to give us the ~4 demos this game got in JP, one at a time, with some advertising. That'll do better than telling every gamer out there that this is just a Final Fantasy that wasn't good enough to be part of the main numbered series.
 

MagiusNecros

Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
To me, BDFF is a title that stands out since it is as many lament so unorthodox.

By being unfamiliar it will stand out on it's own.
 

Fireblend

Banned
I dunno, the game looks like something I would absolutely enjoy and I'm crossing my fingers it gets localized, but that name reminds me of things like this:

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MagiusNecros

Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
No your example would be correct if the title was:

Bravely Default: Flying Fairy - Job Class - Sword - Axe - Magic - Streetpass - Spotpass - Village Fiesta
 

Snaku

Banned
Why Square refuses to localize their products concurrently with development baffles me to this very day.
 

Eusis

Member
Why Square refuses to localize their products concurrently with development baffles me to this very day.
Because they're undecided on whether to bring some of them outside of Japan or not.

They absolutely do do this when it's a sure thing (FFXIII through to Lightning Returns most notably.)
 

Fireblend

Banned
Default Bravely: Fairies Fly
Brave Fairy: Flying Default
Brave Flier: Defaulting Fairy

... all make about the same amount of sense than the original title does. I'm betting on Final Fantasy: Bravely Default
 

Eusis

Member
You can't possibly use that as a viable example. Since when have Square's game's been given the same treatment if Lightning wasn't present in it?
They did dig out a mostly (entirely?) complete localization out of DQIV's import release, yet they took 9 months to release it outside of Japan anyway. Plus some of those late PSP games were pretty close, like 4 months close, and if it's not Type-0 they seem to be good about this with proper FF games. Hell, for all we know Type-0 could've been one of those close releases but they abstained in the end, it DID come out late 2011 and SE may've decided after the performance of the games earlier in 2011 to just not bother even if it was within the same month.
 
They did dig out a mostly (entirely?) complete localization out of DQIV's import release,

This. A few things changed between the JPN release, mostly censored stuff, but it was pretty much done. The only thing missing from the english version found on the japanese cartridge was the party chat, but they never translated that anyway
 
Who cares if the name makes sense?

Metal Gear Solid
Harvest Moon
Tactics Ogre
Resident Evil
Advance Wars

All of these names are weird and don't make any sense. I didn't even play Resident Evil back in the day because I thought the name was so ridiculous. I've still never played a Resident Evil game, but now it's just because I haven't gotten around to it. A weird name isn't killing anything, and I actually like the title.

Apparently the name makes sense after you beat the game, which is more than you can say for a lot of games. Some even make less sense.
 

Eusis

Member
This. A few things changed between the JPN release, mostly censored stuff, but it was pretty much done. The only thing missing from the english version found on the japanese cartridge was the party chat, but they never translated that anyway
Did they censor in releasing here, or uncensor? It sounds like it was all tame stuff like puff-puff other entires saw, so it's a little frustrating to get that censored likely more because of an arbitrary "it's on handhelds and we want to sell to kids!" thing than anything that'd cause serious trouble or even a higher rating.
 

Goody

Member
Who cares if the name makes sense?

Metal Gear Solid
Harvest Moon
Tactics Ogre
Resident Evil
Advance Wars

All of these names are weird and don't make any sense. I didn't even play Resident Evil back in the day because I thought the name was so ridiculous. I've still never played a Resident Evil game, but now it's just because I haven't gotten around to it. A weird name isn't killing anything, and I actually like the title.

Apparently the name makes sense after you beat the game, which is more than you can say for a lot of games. Some even make less sense.

A harvest moon is the full moon closest to the autumnal equinox. Right around the time you'd want to be harvesting your crops.

Also, I hope this game comes to the West.

How's about just "Flying Fairy"?
 
Did they censor in releasing here, or uncensor? It sounds like it was all tame stuff like puff-puff other entires saw, so it's a little frustrating to get that censored likely more because of an arbitrary "it's on handhelds and we want to sell to kids!" thing than anything that'd cause serious trouble or even a higher rating.

They censored it for here. Took out the puff puff references and other stuff
 

demidar

Member
Resident Evil was also called Biohazard in Japan (probably makes more sense) but due to naming clashes Resident Evil was used instead. It mean evil (zombies) inhabiting a residence (like a mansion). Of course they didn't predict that RE would break free of that specific scenario.
 

jj984jj

He's a pretty swell guy in my books anyway.
They just change it a little so it doesn't sound like complete nonsense, but without adding Final Fantasy. Maybe something like "Brave & Default: Crystal Fairy" if it works.
 

CorvoSol

Member
Who cares if the name makes sense?

Metal Gear Solid
Harvest Moon
Tactics Ogre
Resident Evil
Advance Wars

All of these names are weird and don't make any sense. I didn't even play Resident Evil back in the day because I thought the name was so ridiculous. I've still never played a Resident Evil game, but now it's just because I haven't gotten around to it. A weird name isn't killing anything, and I actually like the title.

Apparently the name makes sense after you beat the game, which is more than you can say for a lot of games. Some even make less sense.

Harvest Moon and Advance Wars make perfect sense. Especially Harvest Moon. It's a game about farming, and Harvest Moons are a way of knowing, well, when its time to harvest. Advance Wars is a series about wars on the Gameboy Advance.

Ta~da~
 
I feel the opposite way may be true, and here's why:
If I see that SE is bringing a unique IP over here, I'm interested. "TWEWY? What's that all about?" I look into it.

If I see Final Fantasy: Subtitle Here, I think "Oh, it's another crappy spin-off." I hate spin-offs. They aren't worth my time 9/10 cases. Auto-skip until someone convinces me otherwise.

Meanwhile, Ni No Kuni, which has a really weird name and no franchise it's building off of, is getting terrific reviews in the USA and sold well.

I think you have to take this on a case-by-case basis. Xenoblade? Great name, Monado was terrible. Let people know you made Xenogears, and this is your next big thing. SE doesn't need to do that, though. SE just needs to give us the ~4 demos this game got in JP, one at a time, with some advertising. That'll do better than telling every gamer out there that this is just a Final Fantasy that wasn't good enough to be part of the main numbered series.
Completely agree, the 4 demos would really help the game build a strong following pre release and let it spread just by word of mouth.

Also I like the current name, I think it works
 

Eusis

Member
They censored it for here. Took out the puff puff references and other stuff
I was kind of hoping that maybe something was restored from the original English translation found on the Japanese game, but I guess not. Disappointing, though puff-puff was going to be gone either way.
Who cares if the name makes sense?

Metal Gear Solid
Harvest Moon
Tactics Ogre
Resident Evil
Advance Wars

All of these names are weird and don't make any sense. I didn't even play Resident Evil back in the day because I thought the name was so ridiculous. I've still never played a Resident Evil game, but now it's just because I haven't gotten around to it. A weird name isn't killing anything, and I actually like the title.

Apparently the name makes sense after you beat the game, which is more than you can say for a lot of games. Some even make less sense.
Most of those are evocative of what happens in a game actually, at least from a casual glance. Metal Gear? Must have robots, lots of machinery, and be set in a modern or futuristic setting. Harvest Moon? Something about farming. Tactics Ogre? Fantasy game with a tactical element. Resident Evil? Uhhh, Japanese name was better but for the first game but it gives a horror impression I guess. And Advance Wars, beyond the original US platform, indicates it's a war game.

Bravely Default? Maybe a banking sim. I still stand by the name, but there's an inherent logic to each of those you can immediately pick up on, whereas this is more of a story theme where you have to look a little beyond the common usage of the word.
 

Cheebo

Banned
I'd bet good money it will love have Final Fantasy in the title. Square-Enix USA is a complete joke these days. This is the company too scared to release Dragon Quest games overseas anymore.
 
Default Bravely: Fairies Fly
Brave Fairy: Flying Default
Brave Flier: Defaulting Fairy

... all make about the same amount of sense than the original title does. I'm betting on Final Fantasy: Bravely Default

Nope. The original title at least has contextual meaning.
 

Stark

Banned
Too bad changing the name means losing out on something very clever.

And using the FF moniker really says it isn't a new IP but a subseries and will cause confusion.

Change the name fine, but leave FF out of it.

I think that's the main problem, all Square thinks it can make are FF games and that is not true. But they seem to want to push that line of thought.

And as I said before putting FF and the word "Brave" in the title is only gonna be compared with "All The Bravest" which pissed a lot of people off.

People don't seem to understand that the title has a lot to do with the story, the characters and the battle system. Or they refuse to.

If they really want to add damn Final Fantasy in it. It would be FF:FF wouldn't it? since Flying Fairy is important.

Original title is good as it is. It's different.
 

Videoneon

Member
Nope. The original title at least has contextual meaning.

Yeah just keep it. I don't see why this is so difficult or why the title seems vexing enough to warrant modification. It has an apparent payoff within the game later on. I think the fear of marketability is too strong nowadays.

Strictly on the basis of name, what was Soul Calibur supposed to be (Soul Edge notwithstanding)? Guilty Gear? Blazblue? Those titles are all fine enough. Sometimes, it's fine just to stylize shit and come up with a (seemingly) goofy ass name.

I also take issue with Metal Gear. I understand the possible robots thing, but original Metal Gear games as I understand were about you and your stealth abilities against normal soldiers while attempting to take down a mobile superweapon. We're talking pre-nanomachines, VR, and "War has changed," and the addition of Solid takes significance moreso if you know about the lore or at least the main character. I think the title of Metal Gear takes significance in the same way that Bravely Default Flying Fairy does: in the sense that it takes meaning within the game, because I don't think it's apparent by name alone what it is.

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Random battles: sigh. But I already knew about them and resolved to buy this game a while back. I played through Skies of Arcadia not too long ago and managed to enjoy it (even though RB's were irritating when I struggled to find Glacia) so I'll live through this.
 

Aeana

Member
Damn. How bad are they? :-/
They aren't. But then, I have no issues with random battles in general. I was only pointing it out to Amir0x since he has quite a dislike for them.

Honestly, if you are the type of person who has a problem with random battles, then I doubt that's the only issue you'll have with this game.
 
They aren't. But then, I have no issues with random battles in general. I was only pointing it out to Amir0x since he has quite a dislike for them.

Honestly, if you are the type of person who has a problem with random battles, then I doubt that's the only issue you'll have with this game.
Why so?
 
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