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XBOX ONE | Satisfaction Thread: One Thread to Rule Them All

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Daylight

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VlaudTheImpaler said:
Alright guys this is the last update for the night, got a little busier than I thought I would so I will be taking more requests tomorrow! Hope you like it so far YE MANGY SEE KITTENS!!!

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This is truly hilarious. Good Job Vlaud
 
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SkareKro

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FrsDvl said:
Wouldn't surprise me if we get a battle toads HD eventually. I don't see a new Battletoads happening. But an HD re release would more than likely not be out of the question. I think.
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I saw an interview w/ Phil Spencer, and he was asked what his favorite Rare ip was. He said Battletoads. Sorry i don't remember where i saw it. Maybe on Spike? I seem to remember it was Geoff Keighley asking him. Im just not sure.
 
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Phire Phox

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Squeenix should have released KH 1.5 HD Remix (and the inevitable 2.5) for 360 so Xbox fans can get familiar with the series for KH3 on XBone.
 
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phosphor112

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smerfy said:
But it is technically a feature of the console.

Forza is apparently using Cloud to create better AI for each player without having to use local resources to create that.

Dedicated servers is apparently available to every game.

There are already some tangible applications, we just need to see where this goes.

Freeing up latency insensitive things from the local hardware allows that hardware to optimize other portions of a game.

Do I know what other things devs are going to try and offload? No, but that's part of what's interesting about it.
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They said CONSOLE. They can't claim internet features like cloud as "power" of the console. That power isn't exclusive to that device

Dedicated servers aren't new. Sony used a lot of dedicated servers for their 1st party games.

They can't claim outside hardware as power of the console. It's lying.

Satchel said:
Why does it bother you so much?
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It's lying?

Team Vernia said:
Justification of a $399 purchase. Console wars are back in a big way because of the prices. Most people just can't afford to spend a grand for both, and will justify their purchase by slamming another's. I get it. It's just annoying.
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I'm not buying next gen for at least a few years, so no, I'm not justifying a purchase. By the time I do buy one, I'm sure prices will drop.
 
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Not alot is known on the true purpose of the Move Engines. I was listening to a Major Nelson podcast and came across an interesting snippet that might have been overlooked from the Architecture panel... at about 32min and 25sec of the Architecture panel podcast, (I forgot the name of the guy that was talking), he says:

We also put in compression as well, we have LZ77 Move Engines that can just work behind the scenes and compress and decompress which will be really super important for working with data from the cloud
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I'm not sure exactly what this means. Has Microsoft really created a system from the ground up with the Cloud in mind?
 
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Daylight

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MaulerX said:
I'm not sure exactly what this means. Has Microsoft really created a system from the ground up with the Cloud in mind?
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It sure sounds like it. This is where they really benefit from the years of technical research and know how they've amassed.

I remember a few months ago watching a video where they demonstrated someone talking and their voice translation system converted it to text and spoke it in another language with a couple of seconds. I'm not saying this is coming to Xbox, but it would be cool to play with people who spoke other languages and have it translated to you by the Xbox/cloud.
 
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MarkusRJR

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How long will the day one edition be available to preorder on the MS Store site? I won't have enough money to buy it til 2 months from now.
 
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Daylight

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MarkusRJR said:
How long will the day one edition be available to preorder on the MS Store site? I won't have enough money to buy it til 2 months from now.
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You can also pre-order it from Amazon, and they won't charge you until it has actually shipped. Right now they still have it in stock. This may be how the Microsoft store works as well, I don't know. You also don't get 2 achievements if don't order from the MS store, just 1 that you redeem when you have the console.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CMQTVK0/?tag=neogaf0e-20
 
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Daylight said:
You can also pre-order it from Amazon, and they won't charge you until it has actually shipped. Right now they still have it in stock. This may be how the Microsoft store works as well, I don't know. You also don't get 2 achievements if don't order from the MS store, just 1 that you redeem when you have the console.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CMQTVK0/?tag=neogaf0e-20
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Just to add a bit about ordering from microsoft. When you pre-order on your 360 and read the fine print it also states that it won't charge your card until it's shipped so he would be good that route as well. :)
 
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Ninja Moomin

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phosphor112 said:
They said CONSOLE. They can't claim internet features like cloud as "power" of the console. That power isn't exclusive to that device

Dedicated servers aren't new. Sony used a lot of dedicated servers for their 1st party games.

They can't claim outside hardware as power of the console. It's lying.



It's lying?



I'm not buying next gen for at least a few years, so no, I'm not justifying a purchase. By the time I do buy one, I'm sure prices will drop.
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Gee.

do a bit of reading.

Azure is incredible, the ONLY company with anything like the resource of Azure is Google. Respawn reiterated this on giant bomb. They also said they would have to "re engineer" the pc version because that doesn't get access to Azure.

no other console has access to anything like it, and Microsoft expose azure to devs FOR FREE.

it is absolutely not the same as a developer providing a few servers for a game.

In other news...

GOOD MORNING XBOX ONE GAF :)

Did anyone add me to the ship?(viewing on my phone)

what's been happening over night ?

I've got the biggest geek boner for Ryse since reading its not QTE based,but similar to the batman combat system.
 
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MarkusRJR

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Daylight said:
You can also pre-order it from Amazon, and they won't charge you until it has actually shipped. Right now they still have it in stock. This may be how the Microsoft store works as well, I don't know. You also don't get 2 achievements if don't order from the MS store, just 1 that you redeem when you have the console.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CMQTVK0/?tag=neogaf0e-20
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I live in Canada and don't have a credit card (use PayPal to shop online). The MS Store seems like the best option for me tbh. Anyone know if the MS Store works in a similar way to Amazon's preorder system?
 
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Daylight

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Ninja Moomin said:
Gee.

do a bit of reading.

Azure is incredible, the ONLY company with anything like the resource of Azure is Google. Respawn reiterated this on giant bomb. They also said they would have to "re engineer" the pc version because that doesn't get access to Azure.

no other console has access to anything like it, and Microsoft expose azure to devs FOR FREE.

it is absolutely not the same as a developer providing a few servers for a game.

In other news...

GOOD MORNING XBOX ONE GAF :)

Did anyone add me to the ship?(viewing on my phone)

what's been happening over night ?

I've got the biggest geek boner for Ryse since reading its not QTE based,but similar to the batman combat system.
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I'm psyched for Ryse as well. We've been changing avatars, at least I have. Went ahead and made one for you because I like the image of Cortana. Don't feel obligated to use it, I just have Photoshop all set up right now. If anyone else wants one just let me know.

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VlaudTheImpaler

VlaudTheImpaler

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MarkusRJR said:
I live in Canada and don't have a credit card (use PayPal to shop online). The MS Store seems like the best option for me tbh. Anyone know if the MS Store works in a similar way to Amazon's preorder system?
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If you live in Canada you should definitely be taking advantage of this...

Mayyhem said:
So with Futureshop Canada's E3 pre-order deal (Pre-order 3 games and get them each for $39.99)

I've preordered the console today PLUS:


Titanfall (Xbox One)
Forza 5 (Xbox One) - Day 1 Edition
Dead Rising 3 (Xbox One) - Day 1 Edition
Metal Gear Solid V (Xbox One)
South Park The Stick Of Truth (Xbox One)
Destiny (Xbox One)
Watch Dogs (Xbox One)
Tom Clancy's The Division (Xbox One)
Elder Scrolls Online (Xbox One)
Battlefield 4 (Xbox One)

Splinter Cell: Blacklist (XBOX 360)
Batman: Arkham Origins (XBOX 360)
Grand Theft Auto V (XBOX 360)
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Unless it's to late, I don't know the details of the sale. :/
 
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MaulerX said:
Not alot is known on the true purpose of the Move Engines. I was listening to a Major Nelson podcast and came across an interesting snippet that might have been overlooked from the Architecture panel... at about 32min and 25sec of the Architecture panel podcast, (I forgot the name of the guy that was talking), he says:


I'm not sure exactly what this means. Has Microsoft really created a system from the ground up with the Cloud in mind?
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Exactly. That's why people like us who have listened to the architecture panel ...who are not talking heads but hard working, smart engineers... say that the hardware on the system is to help with the cloud data... That we know the cloud is not bullshit but really built to help games.
 
XtremeXpider

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Kinect and the cloud can make the difference between other systems and Xbox One. I'm not talking about better graphics, I mean some cool ideas to gameplay.
 
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Klocker

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XtremeXpider said:
Kinect and the cloud can make the difference between other systems and Xbox One. I'm not talking about better graphics, I mean some cool ideas to gameplay.
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Exactly the future of all games using dedicated servers, games being online and using the servers in ways that people are not using as much right now, Kinect and voice control, the games, no disc gaming and the tv in to me... Makes this easily worth $100 difference
 
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Daylight said:
I'm psyched for Ryse as well. We've been changing avatars, at least I have. Went ahead and made one for you because I like the image of Cortana. Don't feel obligated to use it, I just have Photoshop all set up right now. If anyone else wants one just let me know.

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nice, I might want you to do mine, but I'm not sure if this avatar is the best for it, so I could find another.
 
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Klocker said:
Exactly the future of all games using dedicated servers, games being online and using the servers in ways that people are not using as much right now, Kinect and voice control, the games, no disc gaming and the tv in to me... Makes this easily worth $100 difference
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Take a look:

Microsoft may still be reeling from the PR nightmare about Xbox One's used game policies and always online nature, but that hasn't stopped the company from espousing the next-gen platform's big potential. In a closed-door meeting called "Xbox 101" attended by GamesIndustry International, the company stressed that Xbox One has "the computational power of more than 10 Xbox 360 consoles," and that "the cloud brings infinite additional processing power."

Those are the words of Xbox One engineering manager Jeff Henshaw, who led a demonstration about how Xbox One's power has enabled Microsoft to create a demo using real data from NASA to track the orbital velocity of 40,000 asteroids in space. While Henshaw and his team are very proud of the power of Xbox One when it's offline, the real advantage, he stressed, comes from Microsoft's special cloud services.

"Microsoft has hundreds of thousands of servers and dozens of data centers geographically distributed all around the planet, and Xbox One has the ability to instantly tap in to that limitless computational horsepower," Henshaw explained. With that extra cloud power, Microsoft is able "to take the number of asteroids from 40,000 to 330,000, and any device doing the computational math to realistically in real-time chart the orbital velocity of 330,000 asteroids would melt a hole in the ground, but Xbox One is able to do it without even breaking a sweat because it's pulling in virtualized cloud computing resources."

Henshaw added that even with all the power being used, Xbox One remains incredibly silent (no doubt an important aspect to note given how loud Xbox 360 hardware has been). "We have about 500,000 updates per second coming from our global computing cloud down to this Xbox One so it can all be managed completely seamlessly. The beautiful thing that's happening here is we are seamlessly blending Xbox One's incredible processing power with the limitless processing power of the cloud," he continued
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"Game developers are building games that have bigger levels than ever before. In fact, game developers can now create persistent worlds that encompass tens or hundreds of thousands of players without taxing any individual console, and those worlds that they built can be lusher and more vibrant than ever before because the cloud persists and is always there, always computing," Henshaw said.

"Those worlds can live on in between game sessions. If one player drops out, that world will continue on and can experience the effects of time, like wear from weather damage, so that when a player comes back into the universe it's actually a slightly evolved place in the same way that our real world evolves a little bit from the time we go to sleep to the time we wake up. Game developers have given us incredibly positive feedback on the crazy different ways that they can use this incredible new cloud power resource."
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Nice?

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articl...-power-of-10-xbox-360-consoles-says-microsoft
 
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dejay

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MaulerX said:
I'm not sure exactly what this means. Has Microsoft really created a system from the ground up with the Cloud in mind?
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Absolutely. That's why they don't want customers if they don't have an internet connection. XB1, in my opinion, is the front end to a range of digital services. It's not meant to be a box in isolation, although it can be if need be. Xbox and 360 have led to this point. That's why Microsoft is so stubborn on the issue - it goes beyond just DRM. They want your box to be connected, since that's where their revenue stream will come from. They're willing to take some pain to get there.

The fact that the standard toolkit for every developer now includes access to flexible, cloud based dedicated servers is a big deal. It's by no means infinite, or whatever marketing jazz MS wants to dazzle us with, but it is cool, and it can be assumed that every Xbox will be connected to the net, so there can be some cool things done that can't be done on standalone boxes, be it single or multiplayer.
 
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