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Are you the Alpha among your group of friends or are you amongst the Betas?

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My circle of friends doesn't work like that. Shit, I make the most money, am farthest along in life. I don't have school debt and I like to make the plans, bring folks together in my ballin' ass house and so forth.

Every single one of my friends knows more about lots of stuff than I do. Every single one of my friends exercises (more than me) Every single one of them as a result probably "looks" better than I do. Every single one of my friends is a valuable contributor to our group, whether that be in ideas, humor, flexibility...doesn't matter. I'm not better than they are and they're not better than I am. We're friends, plain and simple.
 
We aren't fucking wolves, we are humans, and the only people who seriously call themselves alphas are almost always pathetic insecure little children who have no concept of what an alpha in the animal world really means. An alpha is a leader, not a douchebag fuckbag who talks more than acts.

Best post in the thread. Also I'm thinking of just giving away my snapbacks. They've become a very douchey accessory
 
My circle of friends doesn't work like that. Shit, I make the most money, am farthest along in life. I don't have school debt and I like to make the plans, bring folks together in my ballin' ass house and so forth.

Every single one of my friends knows more about lots of stuff than I do. Every single one of my friends exercises (more than me) Every single one of them as a result probably "looks" better than I do. Every single one of my friends is a valuable contributor to our group, whether that be in ideas, humor, flexibility...doesn't matter. I'm not better than they are and they're not better than I am. We're friends, plain and simple.
Shiat. I nearly cried.
 
Sophia was too old to get it on with anyone. I think she got the least action of anyone in the series other than maybe Rose, cause Rose was too hung up on her dead husband Charlie to get it on with anyone.

Real talk though, Estelle Getty had such bad dementia toward the end of the series that she kept forgetting all of her lines. You can see the diminished role her character has by the end of the series. And I think she was actually younger than Bea Arthur and Betty White.

Rose was always banging that Miles motherfucker. He eventually turned out to be in the witness protection program and she got pissed, but I think they worked things out. I've seen him post on GAF so everything must have gotten straightened out.
 

RubxQub

φίλω ἐξεχέγλουτον καί ψευδολόγον οὖκ εἰπόν
Listen to this man, he knows what's up.

What a beta response...defaulting to someone else's perspective?! FUCK THAT NOISE!

STATE YOUR OPINION AS FACT, YOU FUCK!
 

geebee

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We aren't fucking wolves, we are humans, and the only people who seriously call themselves alphas are almost always pathetic insecure little children who have no concept of what an alpha in the animal world really means. An alpha is a leader, not a douchebag fuckbag who talks more than acts.
Was about to post this.
 

Hex

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Referencing Grease 2 is so Beta.

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Adrian Zmed is not amused, and Adrian Zmed does not agree.
You do not get more alpha.
 

RELAYER

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I'm am only the beta by virtue of the fact that I do not hang out with men who are of lesser status than I.

Once I sense that I have eclipsed my friend and that I am now the alpha, I dump them and move onto the next one from whom I can learn.

Constant evolution.
 

Monsieur

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Wow this is the goofiest shit I've read all day. If one of my friends came up to me and said he was the alpha of the group I would punch him straight in the face no joke.

Unless all your friends are complete pussies I can see how you would think your an "alpha" in a circle of girls.
 

RELAYER

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Wow this is the goofiest shit I've read all day. If one of my friends came up to me and said he was the alpha of the group I would punch him straight in the face no joke.

Unless all your friends are complete pussies I can see how you would think your an "alpha" in a circle of girls.

There's always an alpha and the alpha knows that he is the alpha.
 

Coconut

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There's always an alpha and the alpha knows that he is the alpha.

I think what you mean to say is, "there is always an asshole in a group of people who thinks that there is such a thing as Alpha and Betas, and they think they are the Alpha."
 

RELAYER

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I think what you mean to say is, "there is always an asshole in a group of people who thinks that there is such a thing as Alpha and Betas, and they think they are the Alpha."

I meant to say what I did in fact say.
Being socially aware doesn't make one an asshole.
 

Coconut

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I meant to say what I did in fact say.
Being socially aware doesn't make one an asshole.

If your social awareness is based on you making up a thing to elevate you above people what are supposed to be friends, then yes it does.


If we look at nature the Alpha doesn't want to relinquish power, so that suddenly now puts into question all actions anyone has ever taken to help a friend.
 

RELAYER

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If your social awareness is based on you making up a thing to elevate you above people that are supposed to be friends, then yes it does.

Firstly, I dispute that the existence of an intrinsic social hierarchy is "made-up".
Secondly, I dispute that one can be an asshole by such a flimsy measure.

Coconut said:
If we look at nature the Alpha doesn't want to relinquish power, so that suddenly now puts into question all actions anyone has ever taken to help a friend.

I judge people based on their behaviors, not their thoughts, which are impossible for me to fully know or understand anyhow.

I would also suggest that defining an Alpha as "one who doesn't want to relinquish power" is an incredibly misguided, wrong, or incomplete definition, at least when applied to humanity.
 

Macka

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I have a few different groups, and it varies between them.

Amongst my high school friends I guess I'm more of a beta, because most of them are football playing gym junkies (or actually WORK as personal trainers), whereas amongst my gamer friends I'm definitely the Alpha. My work colleagues are older and I wouldn't say any of us fill those kinds of roles...
 

Coconut

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Firstly, I dispute that the existence of an intrinsic social hierarchy is "made-up".
Secondly, I dispute that one can be an asshole by such a flimsy measure.



I judge people based on their behaviors, not their thoughts, which are impossible for me to fully know or understand anyhow.

I would also suggest that defining an Alpha as "one who doesn't want to relinquish power" is an incredibly misguided, wrong, or incomplete definition, at least when applied to humanity.

You must be really fun to hangout with.
 
I seriously doubt a single one of my friends has ever given this any thought.

I suppose a group in their late 20s just doesn't give a fuck/has more important things to think about.
 

rkn

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I tend to go into a fetal position and expose my neck and belly as a sign of submission, am I doing it wrong?
 

RELAYER

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You can do whatever you want with it.


You aren't offering up alternative definitions or other qualities of what an Alpha is so I'm done with the conversation. Clearly you have your mind made up.

To be fair, you never asked. You said "You must be really fun to hangout with."

I'd also argue that I've handled myself much more cordially than you have during this discussion. You've largely been dismissive and adversarial. Out of the two of us it's I who has displayed open-mindedness, so while I don't agree with your reason for being done with the conversation, I feel the same either way.

To debrief - Just because I have a position doesn't mean I have my mind made up. Clearly you can see that you haven't done much to challenge it.

Monsieur said:
You should post a picture of yourself just so everyone can see how "Alpha" you are.

I don't see the point. Alpha doesn't exist in a vacuum; one is only alpha in relation to another, and that relation is defined behaviorally.

Furthermore that isn't what I was saying to begin with.
 
This thread reminds me of that episode of the boondocks with the hommies over hoes thing, like seriously this is what some fellas are thinking about now when they are with their people? Thinking you are more alpha or more beta than someone else is really a waste of time, almost like how some people justify specific prison behavior and equate it to displaying more dominance or power over someone.

If such a thing exists, its only because the so called beta's are so wrapped up in what the alphas are doing. Do you and not give a fuck and maybe you will be more alpha.
 

spock

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I'm pretty alpha and have been in regards to friends most of my life. I understand some think talking in the context is stupid, etc (were not wolves, etc) but we are animals and we do have certain behaviors that are in line with our more primitive ancestry.

For me alphas are just natural authorities who garner trust and command respect by their nature and charisma. Its not about being a overtly aggressive, abrasive or strong, its just a vibe or a flow. It can be manufactured but most have it early on (both men and women)

Looking back to my teens, my being alpha most of the time was pretty important. I kept my group of friends out of certain trouble and harm. We did do dirt, some shadeyness and stupid things. However I was always trying to reduce risks, pick the right situations, etc. Given the stuff me and my friends did or where involved with I can look back now and see how we lucked out with me setting the tone and direction. I was always trying to make sure we do things smart. Other dudes who where in the group at times would be to focused on "not being a pussy" or whatever, thankfully the rest of the group would opt for being smart instead of just gorilla'ing shit.
 

Coconut

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To be fair, you never asked. You said "You must be really fun to hangout with."

I'd also argue that I've handled myself much more cordially than you have during this discussion. You've largely been dismissive and adversarial. Out of the two of us it's I who has displayed open-mindedness, so while I don't agree with your reason for being done with the conversation, I feel the same either way.

To debrief - Just because I have a position doesn't mean I have my mind made up. Clearly you can see that you haven't done much to challenge it.



I don't see the point. Alpha doesn't exist in a vacuum; one is only alpha in relation to another, and that relation is defined behaviorally.

Furthermore that isn't what I was saying to begin with.

But what you are saying is in our modern society that some people have a quality no longer defined by strength or sought after physical characteristics that makes them the leader of a group. That seems like nonsense due to the simple fact that not everyone has all the skill necessary to handle all situations.
 
My circle of friends doesn't work like that. Shit, I make the most money, am farthest along in life. I don't have school debt and I like to make the plans, bring folks together in my ballin' ass house and so forth.

Every single one of my friends knows more about lots of stuff than I do. Every single one of my friends exercises (more than me) Every single one of them as a result probably "looks" better than I do. Every single one of my friends is a valuable contributor to our group, whether that be in ideas, humor, flexibility...doesn't matter. I'm not better than they are and they're not better than I am. We're friends, plain and simple.
So they're using your ugly fat ass for your house and money.

j/k :p
 
I'm an Aplha male.

And girls want to fuck alpha males. Let it piss you off as much as you want, but you know it's completely true. That girl you like who is kinda cute in a weird way, but is totally sweet and you have the biggest crush on? The one who keeps going back to guys who treat her wrong for reasnos you don't understand? The one who calls you up at 1 am to cry about how her boyfriend hasn't called her in 3 days, and no matter how long you listen to her, she'll never think of you as anything other than asexual? The one who will curl up next to you on the couch, hug you close, kiss you on the cheek, and never let you fucking touch her beyond that?

Yeah, I'm fucking her.

The hot girl who won't even look at you when you nod at them and smile? The one who laughs when you trip in the hallway and drop your stuff? The one who comes up and coyly aks for your help with her homework, and then pretends you don't exist once you finish?

Yeah, I'm fucking her too, even harder.

The geeky girl you think might be enough like you that you have a chance with her? She plays warcraft on your server, and watches anime, and reads comics? She's so incredible and you just love her so much but you still haven't worked up the courage to tell her how you feel about her?

Guess who just sucked me off and told me they'll always love me?

And what's more? I laugh at guys like you. When you cry about how much girls treat you bad, and wonder why they can't just see that you're a nice guy who would always treat them right? I nod and tell you to hang in there, you'll find someone right for you someday, don't give up hope man. But inside? I'm laughing my ass off at you you pathetic fuck. Every girl you set your sights on, who isn't a disgusting pig-monster, I'm going to fuck 6 ways from sunday before you even tell her you think she's cute. I won't bother trying when you finally settle for that 350 pound girl who works at hardees, you can have that. Anything else I'm going to cum on her face before you get those lips near it.

And the biggest reason I laugh? It's not me doing all this. It's the girls. When you cry about how lonely you are? Or talk about how you just want to curl up and dissapear, and all that emo bullshit? You're triggering her "Don't Fuck" instinct something feirce. You're a miserable weak coward, why would she want your genes? Feel free to buy her a new computer and help her decorate her apartment, you're great for that. But her baby-maker is barking orders at her, telling her to wrap her legs around me and hold on for as long as she can. She needs it, on a primal level you'll never get to see first hand, even if you do get a chance to fuck her. Sooner or later one of them will lay back and spread their legs, but you won't see any hunger in their eyes. They won't beg you to love them forever and make them yours. You won't know what it's like to see her animal side needing you as much as she needs to eat and breath.

And she's cheating on you, I promise that. When she sits around quiet and uncomfortable, acting irritable and irrational towards you, wanting you to just back away and leave her alone, it's not her period. It's because I haven't called her for a day or two and her instincts are telling her to go find me. The primitive section of her brain doesn't want to risk smelling like another man when she gives herself to me, she wants me to know she's completely mine. We do things together she tells you she never would. Her pooper? Mine. I want to give her a facial? of course. I want her to suck the cum out of my dick, even though I just finished pumping away at her ass? she's never going to tell me no. She doesn't WNAT to tell me no. She wants me to know she'll do anything it takes to keep me. She'll rim my ass while she's down there sucking me off if it means pleasing me. She'll drink my cum from a shotglass. She'll wear a buttplug when we go out to dinner. She'll sleep handcuffed to my headboard. Anything.

And then she'll go home to you and tell you she's not in the mood today.

I'd say you should become an hero, but you being aruond makes her want a real man all the more, so keep fagging it up emo bitches, I'll keep that pussy warm while you're crying in the corner.
 
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