Portugeezer
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Will Call of Duty: Ghosts have dedicated servers on the PS4?
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We are only pointing at you.
As someone who has played multiplayer fps heavily for the last 10 years, I can tell you that dedicated servers was my number one wish for xbox 360 and I was gutted that it didn't happen back then, every halo game I stopped playing was ultimately me getting fed up with lag.
So happy that the Xbox one has dedicated servers, for me that was more important than power. You hear the shout outs for lag and host advantage all the time - I think it's cared about far more than a you think.
If halo 5 goes back to the classic halo multiplayer of halo 3 (or halo 3 is re-released) I will play it for years if lag is minimized.
The downside being that the ps4 are running the multiplayer code and not the server, it will definitely be better than p2p but still use more data packets than a truly dedicated server, where the multiplayer logic is ran on the actual server.
The latter is my definition of a dedicated server, anything else is a hybrid approach.
Sword Of Doom
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Hope Sony is on this. Let's see what they do with psn. And I agree that quality of online MP is very important to a lot of gamers
BeastLeeAdams
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FeiRR
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All you wrote is correct but the point is, the definition of "dedicated server" you can check on Wikipedia has nothing to do with the technical side of it. It's more about how B2B relations work. Quite funny there's this whole thread where people draw graphs and write thousands of words but they're totally missing the point. Well, this is GAF after all. Chasing the rabbit is more important than catching it.
So hey guys. I just wanted to say I accept your apology
Apologize for What?
Why would the server situation on BF3 be different on the PS3 & Xbox 360?
NO IT DOESN'T!!!!!! I've said this several times in this thread & you keep ignoring it. Guerrilla Games/Sony are responsible the network infrastructure of "Killzone: Shadow Fall". Infinity Ward/Activision are responsible the network infrastructure of "CoD: Ghosts". 1 has nothing to do with the other.
FeiRR
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I was referring to this http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedicated_hosting_service When you read the definitions in your link, none of them really fits the description of GG's solution (neither free nor having host advantage, etc.)
Salvor.Hardin
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Look it's really simple: If Activision didn't bother to purchase any comprehensive dedicated server solution for current gen games, then chances are that they won't do so for the PS4.
With the X1, MS is offering them substantially reduced server prices in the form of its Azure service.
If Sony isn't offering true dedicated servers for a first party title, then they definitely don't have anything to offer Activision. Which means Activision will have to rely on another company for those servers. Just like they had to do so for current gen. And what did they do? Nothing.
Gemüsepizza
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So hey guys. I just wanted to say I accept your apology
Moving on, I do think the KZ revelation should be a strong indication of which way Ghosts will go.
Why are you quoting me? Your predictions are made up, this is FUD. I have called you out on BF4. You corrected your statement. Now you are making up stuff about CoD because they did not make a statement other than "it's too early to speak about it" about PS4 servers. Those aren't even the same companies... it is very clear that you are simply spreading FUD here.
Purchase? You know you can easily rent servers from various suppliers with a few clicks and then upload your server software remotely?
Source please.
What, why? They are using a custom solution for KZ:SF, but that doesn't mean that they absolutely won't be able to provide servers with their software for partners.
You mean like they are doing now with Microsoft?
Sony Corporation doesn't even own a cloud service that clients rent servers & infrastructure from (e.g. Amazon Web Services, Windows Azure, Google Cloud/App Engine, IBM SmartCloud Services, HP Converged Cloud, & etc.) to begin with. Sony is going to be using OpenStack (with help from Rackspace) for PSN and their own 1st & 2nd party games on the PS4. So Activision wouldn't even go to Sony to begin with. Obviously, "CoD: Ghosts" on PS4 will use Windows Azure just like the Xbox1 & PC versions.
Do you have a source for this? First time I'm hearing of it.
Garrett 2U
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i HeaR MusiC
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Don't you think this would have been announced by now? I find it rather strange that there is no info on this anywhere.
betchya can't provide a source on this
No, i'm using common sense. Why would "CoD: Ghosts" use a completely different cloud service for the PS4 version? Why would Microsoft's "Windows Azure" division, turn down the business of providing servers & infrastructure for the PS4 version?
Chobel
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They won't turn down it, but MS won't offer reduced prices for it. Knowing Activision, they won't get dedicated servers for PS4 if those servers are expensive.
What does this have to do with anything in this thread?
Sword Of Doom
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It really irritates me that activision makes so much money off cod yet they don't offer dedicated servers. Maybe being the only FPS on the ps4 without dedicated servers will force them into finally providing them.
Garrett 2U
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Okay so then why haven't they announced dedicated servers for the PS4 yet?
Yep. They even sell microtransactions now, and still no dedicated servers.
That my good man appears to be a wild joke....don't scare it off by questioning its meaning
Since I'm a JR, I can't start a new topic.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/28/4780340/sony-promises-improved-digital-downloads-ps4-gta-v
Don't believe its lies.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/28/4780340/sony-promises-improved-digital-downloads-ps4-gta-v
Don't believe its lies.
That's possible, But, notice how Microsoft NEVER said dedicated servers on "CoD: Ghosts" would be "EXCLUSIVE" to Xbox1. God knows MS loves to throw around their favorite word "Exclusive". And don't forget about this tweet that Activision Support:
https://twitter.com/ATVIAssist/statuses/375443598382485504
The way I look at it, MS has a marketing deal with CoD (The same way Sony has a marketing deal with "Destiny"). Since MS gave them a deal on Dedicated servers, most likely part of that deal includes only talking about the Xbox1 version having dedicated servers. Similar to how Sony's & Rockstar's marketing deal for "GTA V" involves only mentioning the PS3 version of "GTA V" in ads.
MajorasHalo
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Halo 3 aint classic. halo 2 is.
Salvor.Hardin
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That's because MS was and is in no position to make that call. They didn't buy dedicated server exclusivity. They just happened to confirm it first.
I'm sure Sony and Activision have been talking about it.
Well, I've already speculated that PS4 will have dedicated servers, but who actually provides those servers and the logistics behind PS4 dedicated servers is a whole other topic.
Honestly, I don't care where it comes from as long as the PS4 version has it and it works.
Not sure what you are trying to prove with this.
Sony offered GTAV as a day one digital download(the only hardware manufacturer of the big 3 to do it). Microsoft did not as far as i know. They even allowed you to preload the game and just download an executable to launch the game bringing the download early and play early experience to parity with pc. Now people cracked the download (cause thats what smart people do) and they had to take it down but thats not the point. Sony offered a much more sophisticated experience when it comes to downloading and playing a day one digital game, not just any game, motherfucking gtaV the biggest game launch in 5 years on a 7 year old machine. If that does not speak to sony's dedication to a sophisticated online experience when they are bolting all of this functionality on to a console with 512mbs of ram and a cell processor than whatever believe its lies all you want.
Chobel
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If Sony is offering dedicated servers we would know by. COD have less than a month to go gold. And adding dedicated servers support requires changing the code of COD so I don't there's time to do that.
What would they even talk about??!! It's not like Sony owns a cloud service they could rent infrastructure & servers from.
THISS!!!!!!!! Infinity Ward/Activison not having dedicated servers for the PS4 version "CoD: Ghosts" would be a screwjob to PS4 owners.
Garrett 2U
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Well this is what Activision's Community Manager had to say about dedicated servers for COD Ghosts:
https://twitter.com/OneOfSwords/status/379756687550586880
I don't think they're coming man.
Sounds like Microsoft really is providing them for super dirt cheap.
Reckless Onion
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They even did it now with the black ops 2 on ps3/xbox. you guy's should read my post in this thread
Chobel
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Well this is what Activision's Community Manager had to say about dedicated servers for COD Ghosts:
https://twitter.com/OneOfSwords/status/379756687550586880
I don't think they're coming man.
Sounds like Microsoft really is providing them for super dirt cheap.
I guess that's it. now the question is how will PS4 owners feel about this?
Well this is what Activision's Community Manager had to say about dedicated servers for COD Ghosts:
https://twitter.com/OneOfSwords/status/379756687550586880
I don't think they're coming man.
Sounds like Microsoft really is providing them for super dirt cheap.
This has been discussed before in a previous thread. That dude doesn't know what he's talking about.
Garrett 2U
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If there was an Activision NDA about dedicated servers, I'm guessing he probably just wouldn't have said anything...
test_account
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Activision doesnt need Sony to offer dedicated servers though, so i dont think that is much of an indication. They (Activision) can use other server providers.
They'd all flock to "Battlefield 4" or "Killzone: Shadow Fall".
test_account
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I dont think that it matters one bit actually. Call of Duty on consoles havnt had dedicated servers for years, still tons of people play it. People wont stop playing it regardless of dedicated servers or not.
community managers wouldn't know, especially with the exclusive marketing deal...
He's not being obtuse or hiding anything, he simply doesn't know.
The answer considering BF4 and KZ:SF will both be marketed as using dedi's (whether you think that's right or wrong is another question) is probably going to be yes.
Also note the post about BLOPS 2 testing dedi's on PS3 a few posts up.
No one will answer this until launch day I don't think and eventually the answer will likely be yes.
Pretty sure the article spells out my point. Sony has no cloud. #Driveclub
Sony has 2 or maybe 3 clouds, gaikai and openstack and SOE, though SOE is probably not a cloud service and is more likely a dedicated service, I don't know about that.
Not only that, he's a community manager for Activision, not Infinity Ward. The community manager for Infinity Ward would be more knowledgeable about the game.
Won't stop me really. As long as the connection is nowhere near BlOps level bad, it'll be fine.
What does that even mean? It's already been confirmed that #DriveClub will have dedicated servers:
http://gamingbolt.com/driveclub-interview-ps4-advantages-dedicated-servers-customisation-club-progress-and-more
Dude that article was about sony's dedication to a good online experience and i outlined that arguably they provide a better one than any other console at this point outside of download speeds. You then go on to not address my post at all and spout shit...way to go.
The PC version on Steam will also have dedicated servers. I can't imagine they would screw over PS4 owners.
test_account
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Same here. I've enjoyed every Call of Duty game online since Modern Warfare 2, so no problem for me (i played Call of Duty since COD1, but i didnt play much COD online before Modern Warfare 2).
EDIT: The best selling version of COD: Ghosts will most likely be the Xbox 360 version as well, which also havnt been confirmed to have dedicated servers.
How much is the discount?
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