AndrewDean84xX
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Best ever? No way. Not even in the top 3, imo.
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PS4 and Xbox One both have the best console launch line-up EVER
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Taking out the PC titles. Unless I missed something.
Just the Exclusives.
PS4
Killzone
Knack
Resogun
X1
Dead Rising 3
Forza 5
Killer Instinct
Ryse
Crimson Dragon
Fighter Within
Powerstar Golf
Lococycle
something fishy
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Ps4 relies too much on ps3 games and free pc at the mo,
Definitely waiting for some good games for my tastes.
Definitely waiting for some good games for my tastes.
Times are a changing. Journey and the Walking Dead were last year's top two GAF games of the year. Do you need more compelling evidence?
For pure quality, the N64 and Xbox are top tier. Nothing before or since has matched Mario 64 or Halo CE.
For quantity and quality, the 360 and Vita are arguably King, So many at worst good, at best amazing games. The launch titles alone kept me occupied for a good 6 months. The 360's launch titles were amazing. RR6, PGR3, COD2, Condemned, Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved and Mutant Storm Reloaded! Fuck that's a good line up.
Despite being stoked for the new gen to start, the only PS4/Xbone game that has really got me salivating is Resogun.
For quantity and quality, the 360 and Vita are arguably King, So many at worst good, at best amazing games. The launch titles alone kept me occupied for a good 6 months. The 360's launch titles were amazing. RR6, PGR3, COD2, Condemned, Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved and Mutant Storm Reloaded! Fuck that's a good line up.
Despite being stoked for the new gen to start, the only PS4/Xbone game that has really got me salivating is Resogun.
ElectricKaibutsu
Member
They all seem forgettable for me. Not that that's unusual for console launches. Not every system can launch with a Halo or a SM64. It just means I'll be picking up my PS4 in 2014 at the earliest.
What's the last solid console launch lineup in your opinion?
RockmanWhore
Member
These launch lineup makes me sad. They're boring. It's just more of the same with prettier graphics. And even there, this gen is the least impressive generation gap when it comes to horsepower.
And that's without considering the PC release of 99% of these games and the Steam sales.
And that's without considering the PC release of 99% of these games and the Steam sales.
They've both got games.
CrackPebbles
Member
..I mean resogun dead rising, and KI look decent, but im really not interested enough in anything at launch to want to get a console. All I really takes is one game and I can be sold on a something. Even though I always find more that interests me all I need is that push (on gc it was smash, for a 360 it was bayo, on ps3 it was hype for
so Im better off waiting for FFXV and xrd to even consider getting a ps4. Im glad your hyped though!
FFXIII 
The Last One
Member
The launch Line-up is what made me push my PS4 purchase to next year, I bought a WiiU instead.
Looking forward to this one, War Thunder, always liked WWII flight sims. The dogfighting, protecting bomber fleets etc. can be really engrossing.
http://www.gamesradar.com/war-thunder-best-ps4-launch-game-youre-probably-ignoring/
http://www.gamesradar.com/war-thunder-best-ps4-launch-game-youre-probably-ignoring/
Pound_lb003
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I wholeheartedly disagree with there ever having been a strong launch lineup. I've never seen one.
It has a right to bother you, but I know why I want a PS4, and it's not for the launch lineup.
It has a right to bother you, but I know why I want a PS4, and it's not for the launch lineup.
Gamecube.
BadAss2961
Member
Looks weak to me. PS4 launch destroys that on both a casual and hardcore level imo. I owned a GC at launch with Luigi's Mansion too.
Dreamcast I could understand.
Yeah if you factor in the stuff that came out in December, I'd agree that GCN was pretty solid.
JasoNsider
Member
With all respect to every one of the developers trying hard to meet launch, these are some of the poorest launches for a home console I've ever seen. There's just no way I can agree with this being a strong launch. I'd almost go as far to say it's one of the worst launch days (for both) - up there with 3DS.
Karsticles
Member
Two consoles cannot be the best.
Nah, aside from maybe Infamous, Dead Rising 3, maybe Forza, I don't want to play any other game. And cross gen makes a huge difference. Why buy a new $500 console, when many of the games you want will come to the console with more than 40-80 million potential users etc.
Never go by what people on a forum tend to say, they're not the majority.
Never go by what people on a forum tend to say, they're not the majority.
GrizzleBoy
Banned
Is that a non trolling list?
"PS <3 Indies" makes much more sense when you look at it like that.
The PS4 launch exclusive list always looked far too padded with indie games imo, but that list right there makes me feel PlayStation latching onto indies had more to do with the fact that they just didn't have much to show otherwise.
LittleIdeaSLT
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It seems like the days when a system would launch with an earth shattering game like Super Mario 64 or Halo:CE are over. Consoles more often than not launch with a solid collection of titles. A variety of good games. Something for everyone, as it were, but not necessarily one game that will be purchased by everyone.
When compared to the PS2, XB, GC, PS3, 360, Wii, WiiU launches, the next gen lineups seem solid, if predictable. And I think that's where the disappointment lies. As gamers we want the shiny new consoles to shock and awe us with that singular killer app that declares Next Gen has Muther-Fing Arrived. Thankfully, we all know games like that are coming... just not until next year.
side note,
Looking at the PS2 launch lineup again gives me fond memories of the days when japanese developers were a crucial and significant portion of the development pie. Sad to be reminded how much things have changed.
Of those games I listed, three of those big "AAA these days" titles tried to be new. Not new like "New IP", but original experiences that have never really existed before.
Super Smash Brothers and Rogue Squadron were two big sequels, but the very first sequels to games that were three years old. Compare that to Shadow Fall that is coming out months after Mercenary. Lol.
Wave Race: Blue Storm was the good looking racing game. I dunno. It was good, whatdya want.
Super Smash Brothers and Rogue Squadron were two big sequels, but the very first sequels to games that were three years old. Compare that to Shadow Fall that is coming out months after Mercenary. Lol.
Wave Race: Blue Storm was the good looking racing game. I dunno. It was good, whatdya want.
Nothing is just really stand out for me. I don't play sports games, the only Call of Duty games I ever played were before Modern Warfare. I've never played a Battlefield game. I tried both Killzone one and two after purchasing them and couldn't ever really get into either one (never finished them). I played Assassins Creed about a third of the way through before becoming disinterested and haven't touch any of the series since. I'll pick up Marvel Lego Superheroes on Steam when it's on sale. None of the Dead Rising games ever seemed that engaging to me when I've tried them in the past so I doubt the new one would interest me too much. Resogun looks pretty cool, but I still haven't tried Super Stardust HD yet. I have flower and flow.
I don't know, I'm sure I could buy a PS4 and find something moderately enjoyable for me, but for the price of entry I'll wait for something that I just gotta have. For now, Nintendo has finally upped the ante in it's library that it's time to dive in over there for now and dive into Sony's offerings later. Besides I've always got my PC for multiplatform stuff for now.
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I don't know, I'm sure I could buy a PS4 and find something moderately enjoyable for me, but for the price of entry I'll wait for something that I just gotta have. For now, Nintendo has finally upped the ante in it's library that it's time to dive in over there for now and dive into Sony's offerings later. Besides I've always got my PC for multiplatform stuff for now.
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BadAss2961
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It really doesn't matter when none of them were all that great or influential. The actual launch games, that is.
Also, a handheld installment developed by a branch of Guerrilla has little to no bearing on a full blown sequel for a new console.
BlindMonkey
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In my opinion the PS4 has a better selection of games for me, XB1 has 3 sequels to game series that I don't like, and the rest hold zero interest for me except Ryse.
Ryse looks interesting despite all the negativity, think it's because I've always been enamoured with anything set in the Roman times.
Ryse looks interesting despite all the negativity, think it's because I've always been enamoured with anything set in the Roman times.
Small or Indie games is a great way to pad your launch. It's makes sense and gives you variety. It's really why I liked the XBLA launch so much. I bought PGR3, Perfect Dark and Kameo and ended up these games a few day after.
Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved
Gauntlet
Joust
Smash TV
Bejeweled 2
Zuma
Outpost Kaloki X
I'm sure having the smaller games adds to the value of any launch.
I think the problem lies in there not being anything that looks new or interesting enough.
Cross-gen games, multiplayer shooters, some new IPs that don't look all that interesting, and sequels that aren't getting much fanfare.
Is it the best? Maybe by sheer quantity of titles launching. Is it going to be remembered that way? No way in hell.
Cross-gen games, multiplayer shooters, some new IPs that don't look all that interesting, and sequels that aren't getting much fanfare.
Is it the best? Maybe by sheer quantity of titles launching. Is it going to be remembered that way? No way in hell.
StreetsAhead
Member
I'm glad you're excited, OP.
Some people seem to be convinced that, unlike any modern system ever, the PS4/Xbox One's launch be amazing and go on to sell 8 million units each by Christmas and bring about the second coming of Christ. A lot of the arguments you counter in the OP I have seen in response to an overall sales/appeal view and not the appeal to an individual enthusiast gamer. Fact is, the list for both consoles is not going to be enough for a lot of people to justify the cost of new systems. Maybe I'm just bitter because neither company considers my money important enough to bother launching their systems where I live this year.
People could (and did) provide reasons why the Wii U's launch line up was amazing, too. That did not make it so.
Good on you for thinking that three genres is 'something for everyone', but that is not the case.
Some people seem to be convinced that, unlike any modern system ever, the PS4/Xbox One's launch be amazing and go on to sell 8 million units each by Christmas and bring about the second coming of Christ. A lot of the arguments you counter in the OP I have seen in response to an overall sales/appeal view and not the appeal to an individual enthusiast gamer. Fact is, the list for both consoles is not going to be enough for a lot of people to justify the cost of new systems. Maybe I'm just bitter because neither company considers my money important enough to bother launching their systems where I live this year.
People could (and did) provide reasons why the Wii U's launch line up was amazing, too. That did not make it so.
Good on you for thinking that three genres is 'something for everyone', but that is not the case.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Outpost Kaloki X was the shit back in the day. Haven't played it in years though, not sure how well it's aged.
Naw, the launch lineup for both consoles is pretty disappointing. Mainly yes, a lot of those games are available on current gen/pc, but also because I'm not interested in any of them.
Not really into the Call of Duty/Battlefield style of games, nor really Assassin's Creed. Honestly, Watch Dogs was one game I was looking forward to but that got delayed. That was my literal one game that I was looking forward to for the launch. Everything else is not interesting.
Even that game, though, is going to be on every system this side of the moon.
Not really into the Call of Duty/Battlefield style of games, nor really Assassin's Creed. Honestly, Watch Dogs was one game I was looking forward to but that got delayed. That was my literal one game that I was looking forward to for the launch. Everything else is not interesting.
Even that game, though, is going to be on every system this side of the moon.
They probably used it as a way to relieve pressure for their big studios needing to all jump ship to the ps4 and rush a few games out. Its a mixed blessing.
Scottish Sin
Member
I'm pretty sure it is there at launch.
Yeah, I kind of miss those days where you got a badass game day one, like Mario 64 or Soul Calibur or Sonic Adventure that said 'THIS is next gen.' I'm just not feeling it this round. I almost felt that way with WiiU but ZombiU really blew me away and was the game that made me feel, 'Wow, THIS is what WiiU is capable of.' Other than that, though, it didn't have much.
In terms of having that exclusive game, I agree that Xbox One has the better chance of having that game that makes you go, 'yeah, this is next gen.' But that's just at launch, and none of those games appeal to me anyway. I'm actually waiting for InFamous: Second Son. I think that's going to be the game that makes people say, for PS4, 'Okay, THIS is next gen.'
theprodigy
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yeah, so, most players don't really care about the extra graphics for their next CoD or AC or Battlefield or FIFA....
Super Monkey Ball, Pikmin, and Melee are unarguably classic games. Luigi's Mansion a game that only cool people like, but still.
I don't see how you can prefer tone deaf, bland FPSers and racers over them. But I guess you're entitled to your "IMO".
Yes it does, it's going to be another Killzone Game with some small gameplay mutations and feature added in. Much like how Mercenaries was a Killzone Game with small gameplay mutations and features added in.
It's like when NSMBWU launched months after NSMB2.
Everyone is asking for some single, mind-blowingly awesome exclusive game like SM64 or Halo.
IMO, the only games last gen that can touch the caliber of those two games are GTAV, Uncharted 2, and Super Mario Galaxy, and neither of those three games did anything as significant as SM64 or Halo.
Some might argue Gears of War or MGS4/Uncharted 2 were those big exclusives last gen, and although they were great, hardly so mind-bendingly amazing you needed to buy a console for it.
I think it's a very real possibility PS4, WiiU, and XBO will never have a system-selling games with the grandeur of SM64 or Halo (or GTA3 on PS2). I think the way game design is only incrementally updating will restrict that. Oculus Rift might change that though.
With that said, the launches are what I would expect. Game development takes longer these days, and it's impossible to work on a game for 3 years and ready for launch unless it's an up-port. Ryse and Knack both look weak.
IMO, the only games last gen that can touch the caliber of those two games are GTAV, Uncharted 2, and Super Mario Galaxy, and neither of those three games did anything as significant as SM64 or Halo.
Some might argue Gears of War or MGS4/Uncharted 2 were those big exclusives last gen, and although they were great, hardly so mind-bendingly amazing you needed to buy a console for it.
I think it's a very real possibility PS4, WiiU, and XBO will never have a system-selling games with the grandeur of SM64 or Halo (or GTA3 on PS2). I think the way game design is only incrementally updating will restrict that. Oculus Rift might change that though.
With that said, the launches are what I would expect. Game development takes longer these days, and it's impossible to work on a game for 3 years and ready for launch unless it's an up-port. Ryse and Knack both look weak.
To me its more about quality than quantity.
Halo CE, Super Mario World and Super Mario 64, Tetris were launch games that were considered as games of the entire generation. Games that are basically the quintessential experience in regards to their respective genres.
Overall best launch though is dreamcast.
Vita also had a pretty decent launch line up though
Halo CE, Super Mario World and Super Mario 64, Tetris were launch games that were considered as games of the entire generation. Games that are basically the quintessential experience in regards to their respective genres.
Overall best launch though is dreamcast.
Vita also had a pretty decent launch line up though
I like the cut of your jib.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
....Speak for yourself. I have not, nor will I ever, buy any of those games.
LOL, apparently good games aren't important.
Meh. What'd you want? I'm not mad there aren't any first-party titles...well, I'm a little mad since they should've started first...I'm mad that even the multi-platform titles are also crossgen. The games looking prettier is not a substantial change to me.
Boy Wander
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Thread title is wrong. Should really be 'looks to have' (I don't agree but each to their own). The only time you can really have a productive discussion on this type of thing is AFTER launch. For all we know half of these games could be crap.