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famousmortimer: Xbox One OS and Xbox Live issues bouncing about as we approach launch

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Something really bugs me. It seems XBL will work like PSN, it will have to load everything from the servers this means that if my internet conection is low I will have a slow interface with losts of loading screens. That is what likes me more about XBL, it has everything at hand the only stuff that sometimes takes a bit to load are the gamerpics but everything else is avaliable as soon as I press the guide button.

About the article, the second opinion is more kind, it seems last month it started to work fine, whe don't know when the first opinion was taken. Probably it will be released with basic functions working fine and be addressed by january.
So, part of the problem with the development is related to XBL not working, its good to know where the problems are coming from and that can be addressed.
 

Mahonay

Banned
So Sony and MS are both having problems right before new hardware launch?

Sure, it's a problem, but holy crap it's not the end of the world...

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This is NeoGAF son. This is most definitely the literal end of the world and everything you love.
 

ElTorro

I wanted to dominate the living room. Then I took an ESRAM in the knee.
Honestly, I'm feeling a little worried about how either of the consoles are going on day one.

I don't want to downplay the annoyance of launch (window) problems, but I think that much of this explosion of feels is more due to people's understandable hunger for drama, than console Armageddon.

I have never seen any big software project that didn't run into issues, especially when deadlines re approaching. There are always issues where you have to call the last minute fire fighters. The bigger the project, the more different stakeholders it has, the more likely things hit the fan. It certainly sounds dramatic to hear these things directly from insiders and developers, but this is actually the way how things work most of the time, especially when independent systems (in this case games and online backend) are integrated. Sadly, this still the norm in software engineering. Especially if system interfaces do not meet the requirements, fixing the problem means rolling back a lot. It costs much time and money, and is certainly the worst case, but again, this happens frequently.

I never expected the infrastructure of both consoles to be mature in their first months of life. So yes, it sucks, especially if things seem to be on the upper end of the scale of clusterfucks, but that is sadly still part of the deal if you are an early adopter.
 

Heretic

Member
He doesn't have "problems." What the fuck are problems anyways? And what does that matter? Guy has proven to be a legit source of info.

If he had six toes would it fucking matter, would it be a problem? NO. It's a gaming forum, he's giving out pre-launch fiasco details, everything else is irrelevant. You got a problem with that?

Jeez man, these people...
prob·lem (prblm)
n.
1. A question to be considered, solved, or answered: math problems; the problem of how to arrange transportation.
2. A situation, matter, or person that presents perplexity or difficulty: was having problems breathing; considered the main problem to be his boss. See Usage Note at dilemma.
3. A misgiving, objection, or complaint: I have a problem with his cynicism.

I apologized.
 

RiffRaff

Banned
Famousmortimer was hyping "something bigger than Xbox 720p" in the end it's nothing, at least nothing that can't be fixed with a software update, something to do with Xbox One VoIP API and it currently causing connectivity problems. Microsoft introduced whole party system in 2008 with NXE update, I am sure they will be able to fix everything that is currently buggy on One, maybe not on the release date, but few weeks after.

Ass storms incoming, false equivalence galore, fake MSoft dev clones everywhere, Mort is getting drunk, Matt said that he hasn't said anything, Bish stuck in his bunker because someone locked it from the outside. Just another fine evening at NeoGaf :)

So, fake dev clones everywhere and microsoft still has problem pulling out of their asses? seems normal.
 

HMC

Member
It depends on precisely what features are currently causing disconnects though doesn't it? It's a terrible problem for an online console, what are the major games? CoD and BF? those are some heavy hitting online games, if this means that you are unable to play online properly for 1 month or so then that's a big hit for that section of Xbox fans, which is quite substantial, especially when only looking at those who would be day one adopters.

The thing is, with games running at a lower resolution, you get used to it, that's how it is, however with disconnects it annoys the shit out of you because it is always reminding you there is a problem. We do not know the extent of the connectivity problems, Also I do not think XBL will appreciate 2 million consoles suddenly turning up and disconnecting and reconnecting constantly, if this will have wider XBL consequences we do not know.

PSN was down for how long? How bad did that hurt Sony today? RROD was a monster issue, and XB still dominated in the states. 2K sports hasn't gotten online right in a decade, and I still fuck with that series religously. A couple months of buggy XBL wont mean much, IMO. Not enough to justify the rididculous celebrating folks are doing. Pent up I guess...being a PS3 owner was a real kick in the balls until the last 12 months or so.
 

HoodWinked

Member
i think being broken at launch is a given at this point. gta online, d3, wii day1 patch, etc.

some people probably need to take a break on these forums.
 

x-drake

Neo Member
Who the fuck is x-drake?

One piece character, some epic character.

Damn son, he's actually a mod confirmed insider thats been around for years.

Learn something new every time...At what % would you gaiz give his leaks being right?

The clown that leaked the DRM situation and spear-headed the anti-DRM movement?

The clown that backed up Matt, Gopher, and Cboat about yield issues?

The clown that called the Driveclub delay?

The clown that leaked us the lower resolution on XB1 games?

The clown that against insiders like CBoat, Kagari, and Verendus called that the PS4 would not be launching until November?

You got some learning to do, young one.
That I do, that I do...and I see....
 
Ass storms incoming, false equivalence galore, fake MSoft dev clones everywhere, Mort is getting drunk, Matt said that he hasn't said anything, Bish stuck in his bunker because someone locked it from the outside. Just another fine evening at NeoGaf :)

Someone connect that 56k modem line outside the bunker walls. It may be enough to get some D from B.
 
My recommendation... which you didn't ask for... is to step back and take this somewhat less seriously. It's not your job. Looks like you have some good scoops. Put them out there. People appreciate it. Try not to make this about yourself. If people ignore it or don't like it or shit on it -- that's not necessarily your problem. If this were your job... it would be.

Quoting and replying and then going back to where this was and reading from there....

I don't take this seriously. Well, I kinda do... I felt bad that it was taking me so long to write up that I pointed people on twitter to talk to my wife. They called her a tranny. Not just one person.


We laughed. It's all good.

Now back to where this post was.
 

Kagari

Crystal Bearer
Quoting and replying and then going back to where this was and reading from there....

I don't take this seriously. Well, I kinda do... I felt bad that it was taking me so long to write up that I pointed people on twitter to talk to my wife. They called her a tranny. Not just one person.


We laughed. It's all good.

Now back to where this post was.

The fuck? That's terrible.
 

ElTorro

I wanted to dominate the living room. Then I took an ESRAM in the knee.
Ass storms incoming, false equivalence galore, fake MSoft dev clones everywhere, Mort is getting drunk, Matt said that he hasn't said anything, Bish stuck in his bunker because someone locked it from the outside. Just another fine evening at NeoGaf :)

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Calm down, Mortimer. If you are getting stressed by doing this, just stop. Mental health should always come first. I like you and I don't want anything bad to happen to you.

Ok, I'm seeing a pattern (which is probably 10 pages back from where this response ). I said I was anxious. I have an anxiety disorder. It's not weird that I'm anxious. If I wasn't anxious, actually, it would be weird. I'm having fun.
 
Quoting and replying and then going back to where this was and reading from there....

I don't take this seriously. Well, I kinda do... I felt bad that it was taking me so long to write up that I pointed people on twitter to talk to my wife. They called her a tranny. Not just one person.


We laughed. It's all good.

Now back to where this post was.

Wtf
 

Derpcrawler

Member
Ok your last comment was ridiculous, but this just killed me.

That was sarcasm and just an excuse to insert awesome GIF. Why would I cancel my PS4 pre-order because of no custom backgrounds? To be honest i use XMB wave and Vita default theme anyway, never bothered to change them except for Journey XMB Theme, even then I grew tired really fast. My post might sound as Xbox apologist, but in reality I am not. I don't even plan on buying Xbox One until they throw out Kinect and sell it for 299 or sell it at 349 with one. And I think that everything in that blog post is easily fixable and he really overhyped whole deal comparing it to CoD 720p, as I said - HW Limitations > SW Limitations.
 

coldone

Member
PSN was down for how long? How bad did that hurt Sony today? RROD was a monster issue, and XB still dominated in the states. 2K sports hasn't gotten online right in a decade, and I still fuck with that series religously. A couple months of buggy XBL wont mean much, IMO. Not enough to justify the rididculous celebrating folks are doing. Pent up I guess...being a PS3 owner was a real kick in the balls until the last 12 months or so.

I agree. FF14 and so many other horrible starts. It is only 1-1.5 million consoles during launch window. By mid June XBL will be rock solid and every one will forget all the issues.
 
Quoting and replying and then going back to where this was and reading from there....

I don't take this seriously. Well, I kinda do... I felt bad that it was taking me so long to write up that I pointed people on twitter to talk to my wife. They called her a tranny. Not just one person.


We laughed. It's all good.

Now back to where this post was.

Saw that on twitter. Where the hell is,the technology to punch people over the Internet.

Good to know you're not letting the vitroil affect you much.
 

Wynnebeck

Banned
PSN was down for how long? How bad did that hurt Sony today? RROD was a monster issue, and XB still dominated in the states. 2K sports hasn't gotten online right in a decade, and I still fuck with that series religously. A couple months of buggy XBL wont mean much, IMO. Not enough to justify the rididculous celebrating folks are doing. Pent up I guess...being a PS3 owner was a real kick in the balls until the last 12 months or so.

Only difference is that MS is now asking consumers to pay $500 and deal with potential issues. Media is going to pump that up fairly quickly. As for the last 12 months bring the only good times of being a PS3 owner? Hyperbole out the ass.
 

madblazer

Neo Member
Has there been a online game that hasn't been broken at launch in the last couple years, I expect everything to be all kinds of busted this year.
 

qko

Member
I hate the disclaimer "I'm pretty hated, so this could be an issue of me being trolled". Either go with the news without disclaimers or don't go with it. It's not like the Guardian said "hey a lot of conservatives hate us so they might be trolling us, be we got a source telling us the NSA is spying on Americans".
 
Ok, I'm seeing a pattern (which is probably 10 pages back from where this response ). I said I was anxious. I have an anxiety disorder. It's not weird that I'm anxious. If I wasn't anxious, actually, it would be weird. I'm having fun.

Mort you need to have thick skin doing what you do. So don't take anything personal
 
for those worried about PS4 having problems as well:

I wouldn't panic because there's nothing to panic over right now on PS4 side.

There is a plan in place and I don't know any kind of deadlines but the PSN going up for PS4 is part of that plan but some might see it as Sony being behind.

There is some issues on Sony's side but not like MSFT.

The issues I have heard about are based on connection which is due to go up next week.



If things go as they should it should be fine since we're fast approaching Sony getting their network on for PS4.

If I can get confirmation I will but it depends on availability.
Anonymous asked:I'm not sure Sony has been particularly forthcoming with unedited footage of their OS, either. They've both been pretty cagey in that regard.


Jeff Gerstmann: Didn’t some French site post a ton of raw, off-screen footage of themselves fucking around with a PS4? Could’ve sworn I saw that awhile ago.

Anyway, yeah, they’ve both been a little cagey, I guess. But I feel like I know way more about how the PS4 front-end will look and work, while all the Xbox One dashboard and multitasking footage looks… fake?

Sony's network goes online soon. I think we just need to wait for that.
 
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