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New Xbox One Rumors: PS4 PSN > XBL, snap crashes games, ES RAM life long bottleneck

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I guess licensing wasn't an issue when they published screens like this?

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I'll stop with the Family guy references, I just never found something so fitting. :p
 
Looking at what Bish said before in the other thread, this news may not be the ass storm at all.

Link?

What could be worse than this? You cant use the console without a valid credit card? Overheating? launch consoles wont be able to play future games?

I have a hard time thinking it will get worse than this.
 

Pain

Banned
I guess licensing wasn't an issue when they published screens like this?

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Achievements/Friends/etc should get their own tab. From looking at this screen these feature come off as unimportant to stuff such as music and movies.
 
So not wanting to believe rumors with no real proof is giving junior members a bad rap?

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Like I said earlier in another thread, there's been contexual proof of some of the rumors. Not in an official statement from MS or Sony (why would they?), but in other developments that are logically deducible to particular rumors.

Just because confirms aren't painted in big broad rainbow strokes doesn't make them any less of a confirm. You gotta "use your own brain".
 

Anth1888

Member
Bad choice of words Penello i.e. 'representation'.

Basically confirms that the new UI video is edited and they can't even give us a real time demo.
 
It's a good question, but at least we have seen people messing around with the UI before and not just going into Ryse on that one leaked vid from Sept.

Sony really needs to show their UI in a professional walkthrough though.

Agreed. Sony is being incredibly tight lipped about their UI. I really think everyone on both sides needs to lay off of MS and Sony. Can't we just let them spend the next 3 weeks finalizing the product so we can see for ourselves.

Sony isn't saying anything, thus people are pretty much leaving them alone on their requests. MS keeps responding with tidbits that just fuel the fire. MS has to learn that sometimes its easier to let the console warriors battle it out and watch from afar. Once you give a little they keep asking for more.
 
Most of the posts on here regarding the tweet completely proves that virtually NOBODY in this thread works in a company as large as Microsoft.

Microsoft has contracts that they are RESPONSIBLE by LAW to uphold 100%. Maybe one of their agreements with their advert companies is NOT to blur their content out for demos, it would not be the first time that has happened.

Not to mention licensing involves both companies legal departments and contracts. Its not as simple as flipping a fucking switch like most of you would want to believe. Its absolutely pathetic the level this console fanboy war has gotten to
 
Its not that simple. The deals can be in place, but they can't just go film a demo on a flip phone.

The bigger issue is that they just weren't prepared for this. But I have no issue w/ Pennello saying he can't just film one and throw it up right quick.

I just don't know, would probably tend to agree more maybe if the circumstances were different.
 

nictron

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Dude, I normally bristle at the way Penello gets kicked around here, but that answer is laughable.

If the answer is "this was the real UI, we just trimmed out the parts that show the bits still under construction," say that.

If the answer is "there are the sort of small, annoying bugs visible in the current build that are on schedule to be addressed leading up to the launch," say that.

If the answer is "press release materials are further from the actual development environment than you assume, so there's a big delay from what we're working with now," say that.

If the answer is "We've got some newly introduced issues with the way the different elements interact in our test environment," just say nothing and don't bullshit us.


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farisr

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You mind giving me a link on that?

Never mind. I had the timeline (and even thread) of his post wrong. This could very well be the info that he was alluding to.

(I thought bish posted that in the other thread discussing what famousmortimer wrote in his blog which was discussing pretty much the stuff this topic is about, and hence thought even this stuff is not as bad as what cboat had told him about)
 
So I'm assuming that this video released by Microsoft of the dashboard is basically a bullshot?

http://www.wpcentral.com/live-xbox-one-experience-microsoft-latest-video

Pretty much. Penello admitted as such.

OK PIE IN THE SKY BULLSHIT THEORY TIME

Watch_Dogs got delayed, right? What if it's similar to the Rayman Legends delay, IE delayed to come out on all platforms?

... Including the Xbox One, which might not be ready it seems?

The delay on Watch_Dogs is weird. Really weird. Like, done for business weird. Either they wanted a spring franchise... Or something is wrong.

Again, just throwing shit at the wall here...
 
Christ, worst launch ever? I think so. Even if this happens to be all BS, there hasn't been so much negativity towards a new console like this ever. Holy shit.

And Albert's spin abilities would make even Michael Jackson blush. So embarrassing.

We made direct x! We have retail kits! We have better bandwidth! upscaled 1080p = native 1080p! We delayed because of localized X1 dash support not yields! We can't make real time demos because
ads aren't ready
licensing issues!
 

Cragvis

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So let me get this straight...

This means all UI videos we have seen to this date, have been "representations" of the final product? Since you never had the licences to show the real one off? So technically we have never seen a real UI running on xb1?

Also...those replies...what do they think they would be told when they ask if it will be as fast/seamless at launch?

Albert: "nahh...it will be slower and sluggish..."

durrrr
 

Guerilla

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He's not saying they don't have anything but that representation. He's saying they can't show anything because of "licensing issues".

Yeah, yeah, it's BS, but they obviously have some stuff working internally. Not to the point where a video with a cohesive experience can be released, of course.

Well of course the have stuff relatively working internally, the problem is that a few weeks before launch they're not even functional enough for a superficial presentation.
 

xxracerxx

Don't worry, I'll vouch for them.
Just curious - are you concerned that the kid video could have been doctored in some way?

Not at all...but all it showed was him going back and forth between the tiles and then clicking on Ryse. At least with the PS4 UI vids, they go into the menus more (not as much as I would like, but more).
 

jond76

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At this point I'm thinking a delay is even possible. Launch is in three weeks and they can't show the UI??

I don't understand... Sony launches sooner and there's no UI vid to speak of. And no, "Dude, I don't have that, man." doesn't count.

Even if MS put something together now, using already licensed assets, its too late. The GAF hate machine it so spun up they no one here would believe anything they say anyway. "Star Trek again! This shit is so fake!"
 

le.phat

Member
Penello seems unconcerned, but I'm not sure the tweets make much sense, since we know the Titanfall footage is stock:

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This is exactly the reason why i don't care if Penello is subjected to the fury of GAF everytime he opens his mouth. I mean honestly, could he be more transparent ?
 

njean777

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Most of the posts on here regarding the tweet completely proves that virtually NOBODY in this thread works in a company as large as Microsoft.

Microsoft has contracts that they are RESPONSIBLE by LAW to uphold 100%. Maybe one of their agreements with their advert companies is NOT to blur their content out for demos, it would not be the first time that has happened.

Not to mention licensing involves both companies legal departments and contracts. Its not as simple as flipping a fucking switch like most of you would want to believe. Its absolutely pathetic the level this console fanboy war has gotten to

You sound like a certain MS PR person right now.
 
He posted that yesterday though. Back then we were still on resolutiongate right?
I don't know, I'm getting lost amongst all the crap getting thrown around in this ass storm.

Yeah what alr1ght said, that was in response to Sessler's something.
That was in response to the Sessler and friends drama
 
Found a post by Albert on Reddit

albertpenello Director of Product Planning [score hidden] 2 hours ago

Hey guys. People should understand why these videos get made. It's a simple matter of logistics. The current dash has a lot of Beta-specific tiles in it. The stores are live and we don't have approvals to use those outside materials in marketing. Lastly, they need to use these in a variety of sources that a direct-feed output would not work for.

True story: My wife is working with the team that put these together. As they were getting made, we would compare them to my Beta at home and give feedback.

This video is an EXCELLENT representation of the dash, the features, and the speed. I have no problem showing it to people and saying it's "real". Any differences between this video and the dash are super minor.
I'm catching up online this AM and people seriously need to relax. I know all the drama and intrigue are fun to read about, but the reality is far more mundane.

If you like what that video shows, you're going to love the real product.
 

Shiggy

Member
There's at least 3 gaf mod sanctioned sources.

Albert Spinello is more trustworthy. We know his name and his face, we don't know anything about those GAF users or mods. They could be secret Sony employees. Or people paid by Edward Snowden. Why Edward Snowden you may ask now. Think about it.
 

Zeth

Member
Not at all...but all it showed was him going back and forth between the tiles and then clicking on Ryse. At least with the PS4 UI vids, they go into the menus more (not as much as I would like, but more).

Poster said all UI has been doctored. I said it was not true. That's all.
 

hawk2025

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Most of the posts on here regarding the tweet completely proves that virtually NOBODY in this thread works in a company as large as Microsoft.

Microsoft has contracts that they are RESPONSIBLE by LAW to uphold 100%. Maybe one of their agreements with their advert companies is NOT to blur their content out for demos, it would not be the first time that has happened.

Not to mention licensing involves both companies legal departments and contracts. Its not as simple as flipping a fucking switch like most of you would want to believe. Its absolutely pathetic the level this console fanboy war has gotten to


They worked out the "legal departments and contracts" to produce the fake video we are all seeing, however.


Spare me.
 

TJUK

Neo Member
I played Forza 5 back at Eurogamer Expo. While I was stood waiting for the race to load, I thought hey I could hit the guide button now, so I did. I flicked around a few options there for a few moments and then hit the guide button again but the game never came back completely.

The screen was dimmed, a bit like the screen saver mode of the Xbox 360. None of the buttons did anything. I had to call the guy over and he nervously apologised whilst he reset the console. The guy said it was the E3 build of the game and I told him that it was totally cool and can't be judged at this point in development; its all not finished yet.

Hopefully this kind of thing will be fixed by release?
 
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