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BF4 running via remote play
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NullPointer
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Well, holy jesus.
With this capability plus eventual VR goggle support I predict the very imminent end of the nuclear and post-nuclear family units. By the end of this generation we'll all be sinless serfs slumming in the shadows between megacorporate arcologies in a futuristic simulated sensorama fueled dystopia.
Yeah, the secondary chip on the PS4 should mean it should be that which is listening for the WOL packet - instead of putting the main chip into a low power mode and having to keep running the fan on low for safety like the PS3.
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Vita redeemed, can't wait!
Redeemed from what? Being the most awesome handheld gaming system ever?
Okay this is pretty good.
I Wanna Be The Guy
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No they don't. They need to keep this feature exclusively on Vita and use it to sell some Vita's.
I was thinking about this , you don't need to pair a pad , surely you just use your ds4 as usual ? RP is after all only mirroring what's happening on the console.
Saying that I'm not holding my breath for RP to a tablet for a good while yet.
Haha, remote play is going to end many relationships...
I honestly disagree. The PS4 is going to get more games made for it than the Vita, they get a bigger licence fee than on Vita (I think). Put RP on their laptops like they do currently, and on tablets. Let more people know that they can buy a PS4 and play those games from thta console to any tablet in their home. Even if they only do it on Sony brank kit. Same with Gaikai. Put it on every tablet, every Smart TV. It's not about selling hardware, it's about selling software. Vita will sell better just because it's the main companion and cna also play proper games like Uncharted and Killzone.
Well if you are using RP within BT range of your PS4 then that would work, but if you are more than a couple dozen feet then that won't work.
They have the current Remote Play on their Vaio laptops.
Yup. Automatic SSAA applied to all games.
Prevolition
Member
Gotta add that clarification so as not to offend anyone calling this a gamechanger, am I right?
Wow and this is on PS3
PS4 games are going to look pretty damn good on the vita, barring any video compression issues.
MWS Natural
Member
So badass. Where can I buy an old school Vita new with the OLED screen??
SwiftDeath
Member
IGN claiming that bf4 had noticeable lag on remote play!!!
Provide a link please good sir
IGN claiming that bf4 had noticeable lag on remote play
Do you have a link?
IGN early impressions of NFS and BF4 over RP
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/11/11/ps4-remote-play-with-battlefield-4-need-for-speed-hands-on
cliffnotes. Minimal compression NFS felt 1-1 with occassional stutter, BF felt laggy but playable. Unlikely for MP.
All done via an event network which are typically jammed with devices, could be better in your own home.
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/11/11/ps4-remote-play-with-battlefield-4-need-for-speed-hands-on
cliffnotes. Minimal compression NFS felt 1-1 with occassional stutter, BF felt laggy but playable. Unlikely for MP.
All done via an event network which are typically jammed with devices, could be better in your own home.
I can't help but wonder this:
There were 3 types of connections from your Vita, right? Direct connection (ad hoc), private network, and internet play, last time I checked.
Say I have my PS4 upstairs, and I'm sitting on my bed with my PS Vita in the next room. My internet router is directly below me downstairs. Would remote play have less lag going through the wall to my Vita directly, or through the floor to my router? I might just have to go and test it to find out, but I'm still excited for this feature nonetheless.
There were 3 types of connections from your Vita, right? Direct connection (ad hoc), private network, and internet play, last time I checked.
Say I have my PS4 upstairs, and I'm sitting on my bed with my PS Vita in the next room. My internet router is directly below me downstairs. Would remote play have less lag going through the wall to my Vita directly, or through the floor to my router? I might just have to go and test it to find out, but I'm still excited for this feature nonetheless.
You got a vita for $90? That's almost criminal for the value. I mean seriously even without remote play that's a steal. How?
Yeah, that's bound to cause issues.
Why on earth wouldn't they use demo stands with PSVs directly paired to PS4s.
You'd have to test it out. If your PS4 isn't cabled to the router then I'd deffo say go PS4 -> Vita.
If the PS4 is cabled then you might find that your router offers better signal to the Vita than the PS4, so the extra hop over cable would be negated by better signal.
IGN claiming that bf4 had noticeable lag on remote play
I wish people would provide the full story before rushing to GAF to drop drama bombs.
They ended their impression with this :
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Judging by the article, it seems spotty wifi was to blame, at least in the case of NFS.
famousmortimer
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Vitagaf, of course, will give detailed impressions on friday. But for those looking for bone to be thrown... I've been told by a third party dev and a first party dev that remote play is laggy when at the studio on a huge network and basically "perfect" on a closed network at home (or when they bring it to a more controlled environment).
As long as you don't live in an apartment building with 50 other vita owners within 100 square feet... I think you'll be fine. We will find out for sure on friday
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Most likely an oversight from being caught up in the hoopla of the vent or simply, IGN.
Direct pairing doesn't mean you won't get interference on the same signal band with other wireless signals.
Vitagaf, of course, will give detailed impressions on friday. But for those looking for bone to be thrown... I've been told by a third party dev and a first party dev that remote play is laggy when at the studio on a huge network and basically "perfect" on a closed network at home (or when they bring it to a more controlled environment).
As long as you don't live in an apartment building with 50 other vita owners within 100 square feet... I think you'll be fine. We will find out for sure on friday
Good to hear, though it makes me wonder about the feasibility of outside the house remote play via internet. Hear anything about that?
No idea how it was set up, but even if every journo had their own Vita and their own PS4 with a direct connection between them, there would be a LOT of devices interfering with each other.
I think each game has it's own room with multiple PS4s for people to use. If that's the case there are a ton of PS4s, Vitas, Phones, Tablets, Laptops all trying to compete for the same airwaves.
Yes.
Latency will of course be higher and could well make games unplayable, or at least certain games.
Great to hear.
I suppose that's true, I'd probably get a better connection via ad hoc, since it's the closest I'm going to get to a wired LAN connection.
My PS4 is wireless, so I'll assume direct connection is the way to go until I get first-hand experience.
Ya, its recorded at 720p and downsampled to Vita's 544p.
st1nk nuts
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Im going to assume the ps4 won't be able to play a blu ray and a digital copy of a game via RP at the same time? anyone know?
Yes in theory you can. But the lag in that situation might make it not worth it. Not PS4/Vita's fault, its the lack of proper internet speeds.
It will not. The screen that the Vita displays is the same as the one the PS4 displays, unless the game can render two screens at once like it appears Need for Speed can.
You can't watch Netflix on your PS4 while Remote Playing Ass Creed.
I mean that's not IGN's fault. That was set up by Sony ("they" in my post)
Sure, but that also applies to a local network (on top of the latency of the network itself).
Absolutely my point. There is almost no way they could have set that up with minimal interference.
Blacklight dev just posted this
famousmortimer
Banned
In general PS4>vita will be the most solid experience. It will also be the shortest leash. PS3>Vita can go about 15-20 feet in my house, with a bathroom inbetween and work... but if I move like a foot further into that room it cuts out. I have no idea the power of the PS4 built in wifi to know if it can go further/not as far.
PS4>router>Vita works well and as long as you aren't on the very edge of your router's range (which for me is like 2 houses away) you'll be fine though there is slightly more latency this way. But I do mean slightly. We're still talking 1 to 2 frames... there are MANY tvs that have a higher latency than this.
PS4>router>Internet>Vita actually does work, I'm told, but requires a few things. First off your upload needs to be fast and stable. Secondly the connection you're on with your vita needs to be rock solid. You can get a ping around 100ms with solid connections at each end. Not amazing but not completely awful either. I used to play online games on a 14.4 modem and if my ping was sub 300 I was psyched. But I think people with access to solid internet will be able to play games like Skyrim or maybe even batman/ac. Things that have some timing based stuff but aren't nuts like resogun or super street fighter 4.
And that's all I know about remote play. I can't wait to test it out. When I speedtest from my home ISP I get 10 up, 90 down, and my ping is usually <15ms. But... my work internet is the fucking worst dsl. 1.5 down, .5 up... complete shit. Interested to see how awful it is. PS3 remote play over it is an absolute slide show (though ps4 remote play is better in pretty much every conceivable way).
And here's some hyperbole for you, one dude at sony claimed to me "remote play in and of itself is worth every cent we spent on gaikai."
Hype.
Why wouldn't it be directly downsampled from the native resolution of the game?
Vitagaf, of course, will give detailed impressions on friday. But for those looking for bone to be thrown... I've been told by a third party dev and a first party dev that remote play is laggy when at the studio on a huge network and basically "perfect" on a closed network at home (or when they bring it to a more controlled environment).
As long as you don't live in an apartment building with 50 other vita owners within 100 square feet... I think you'll be fine. We will find out for sure on friday
Good enough for me. I don't live within 50 other wi-fi interfering devices.