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The Last of Us story DLC. Left Behind.

You know it just struck me: I wonder how hard it would be to make a PS4 version of this? The PS3 version uses resources from the disc right? So if they made one for PS4 it would have to be from the ground up. Essentially then, a PS4 version would be episodic instead of DLC properly. Maybe it wouldn't work because of the way it's incorporated into the game.

Anyway, I'm just brainstorming ideas. I've always thought episodic content was an underutilized form (partly because it's too expensive). It could be a way to keep alive PS3 versions of games while transitioning them to PS4.
They can easily make it stand alone game like infamous festival of blood.
 

Majmun

Member
Can't wait!!!

OMG @ new music by Gustavo fucking Santaolalla. His work on TLoU was fantastic.

I'm probably going to replay TLoU after finishing this DLC.
 

Ataraxia

Member
I'm really curious about the gameplay if Ellie is going to be the main character. What is she going to be doing? If you recall, Ellie was extremely naïve at the beginning of the main campaign. She had never been outside the walls of her camp, never used a weapon and never encountered or fought an infected person before (save for the time she was bit or became infected). She reacted in horror when Joel and Tess killed the first guard they encountered and her response after seeing her first clicker was that she shit her pants.

Obviously these wouldn’t be appropriate reactions if she becomes a seasoned killer (or even kills one person) in the DLC campaign which is supposed to take place before the main story.
 

wapplew

Member
I'm really curious about the gameplay if Ellie is going to be the main character. What is she going to be doing? If you recall, Ellie was extremely naïve at the beginning of the main campaign. She had never been outside the walls of her camp, never used a weapon and never encountered an infected before. She reacted in horror when Joel and Tess killed the first guard they encountered and her response after seeing her first clicker was that she shit her pants.

Obviously these wouldn’t be appropriate reactions if she becomes a seasoned killer (or even kills one person) in the DLC campaign which is supposed to take place before the main story.

Stealth, lots of stealth, and occasionally knife (She's going to knife Joel first time they meet remember?)
Yes for no gun!!!!
 
You should check the ol' cheese fest Otis

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God she's gorgeous. I want to marry her right now.
 

khaaan

Member
Kinda wish they didn't do the comic and just did this instead. Now we already know what is going to happen verbatim.

Why? The game already tells us how the story ends and the teaser didn't look like it was from the comics. It's probable that they're going to cover the events of the comics even if briefly but I don't see why we would know what's going to happen verbatim.

I'm really curious about the gameplay if Ellie is going to be the main character. What is she going to be doing? If you recall, Ellie was extremely naïve at the beginning of the main campaign. She had never been outside the walls of her camp, never used a weapon and never encountered or fought an infected person before (save for the time she was bit or became infected). She reacted in horror when Joel and Tess killed the first guard they encountered and her response after seeing her first clicker was that she shit her pants.

Obviously these wouldn’t be appropriate reactions if she becomes a seasoned killer (or even kills one person) in the DLC campaign which is supposed to take place before the main story.

It's been a while but I'll have to go read the comics again. I'm almost sure that
although she doesn't do any killing, there is definitely human and clicker deaths happening in front of Ellie.
 
It's been a while but I'll have to go read the comics again. I'm almost sure that
although she doesn't do any killing, there is definitely human and clicker deaths happening in front of Ellie.

Riley kills an infected in front of her. A few others are gunned down by the Fireflies while they chase Riley and Ellie. And there's a gunfight between the Fireflies and some smugglers in the last issue where Ellie does see some humans die. She also shoots a gun in that issue, although it's only a warning shot.
 

kris.

Banned
They
weren't as predictable with the main game, so i don't know if we should expect some Team Ico twist at all.

I mean the story was already fleshed out in the comics, unless they wanna fuck with their own continuity, it'll pretty much stay the same.
 

goonergaz

Member
They could easily do a PS4 version and just have you stick in the PS3 disk al la the upgrade options if it's DLC.

I had assumed this was coming to PS4 as it was in the PS4 launch video?
 

ZeroRay

Member
Like others, I'm guessing this one will be a lot more stealth based to preserve character development. Awesome!

Hope to see more STALKERS in this one. Only two encounters against the best infected type in the main game wasn't enough.
 

hey_it's_that_dog

benevolent sexism
Those visuals...ok, though they're not technically anywhere near the next-gen games that have been shown, they still somehow make the cut. I mean, you could increase the resolution to 1080p and double the framerate, and you would have a visually striking game, by every standard imaginable. Those guys at ND have top of the shelf artists...

Surprise, even though resolution gets talked about constantly (because it's objective and quantifiable), the "subjective" stuff like artwork and composition is way more important.
 

Mikey Jr.

Member
They could easily do a PS4 version and just have you stick in the PS3 disk al la the upgrade options if it's DLC.

I had assumed this was coming to PS4 as it was in the PS4 launch video?

Yes, it is very easy to make a PS4 game from scratch. Shit, they can probably fart it out in a weekend.
 

goonergaz

Member
Right, firstly I own the game (Joel edition FTR).

Secondly, they have already said the tech was going to be used for their PS4 games. They would have known about PS4 for ages so no doubt have been working on getting the tech working on PS4, so it wouldn't be like building a game from scratch.

Thirdly, I just meant that if this is DLC only (ie you'd need the full LoU game to 'unlock' the ability to play the DLC and it not be 'standalone' (like the InFamous festival of blood) then it would 'just' need to use a similar checking system like the upgrade program.
 

Radogol

Member
I mean the story was already fleshed out in the comics, unless they wanna fuck with their own continuity, it'll pretty much stay the same.

The comics are not the same story. Note how the synopsis says that Riley comes back into Ellie's life at the beginning.

I'd guess the comics are their first adventure together while the DLC is their last.
 

Stark

Banned
Right, firstly I own the game (Joel edition FTR).

Secondly, they have already said the tech was going to be used for their PS4 games. They would have known about PS4 for ages so no doubt have been working on getting the tech working on PS4, so it wouldn't be like building a game from scratch.

Thirdly, I just meant that if this is DLC only (ie you'd need the full LoU game to 'unlock' the ability to play the DLC and it not be 'standalone' (like the InFamous festival of blood) then it would 'just' need to use a similar checking system like the upgrade program.

Comment doesn't specifically pertain to you personally from my end. I'm talking about those that held back.

And isn't that because they're planning to use the engine for PS4 as to not waste anytime making a new one?

I don't doubt it will eventually get some sort of GOTY edition for PS4 or HD Remake, I don't know if it's anytime soon though.
 
i don't get why people are so fond of Ellie, she was mostly annoying to me. constant stupid non-funny "witty banter" that doesn't fit the feel of the game at all.. (i CAN'T be alone thinking this). she was definitely my least favorite character in the game which is a shame since the whole thing revolves around her. it also just felt cheap in a way.. using a kid character trying to get emotions out of players. pandering or whats the word? (english not my first language)

Ish would have been fucking amazing, or something else that wasn't as predictable as just using the same character as before. they should have taken more of a risk IMO. hell, give me a campaign with just Bill, and no sidekick to ruin the immersion with dumb jokes..

oh well i'm still getting the DLC for the hopefully awesome enemy encounters, level design, beautifully detailed visuals, music and fun gameplay. it's just that i really don't like Ellie and how she was used in the game lol.
 
i don't get why people are so fond of Ellie, she was mostly annoying to me. constant stupid non-funny "witty banter" that doesn't fit the feel of the game at all.. (i CAN'T be alone thinking this). she was definitely my least favorite character in the game which is a shame since the whole thing revolves around her. it also just felt cheap in a way.. using a kid character trying to get emotions out of players. pandering or whats the word? (english not my first language)

Ish would have been fucking amazing, or something else that wasn't as predictable as just using the same character as before. they should have taken more of a risk IMO. hell, give me a campaign with just Bill, and no sidekick to ruin the immersion with dumb jokes..

oh well i'm still getting the DLC for the hopefully awesome enemy encounters, level design, beautifully detailed visuals, music and fun gameplay. it's just that i really don't like Ellie and how she was used in the game lol.

Blasphemy.

But yeah, I loved Ellie - she's my favorite in the game. :p The part where
you play as her is my favorite part in the entire game - that chapter was pretty much perfection how you went back and forth between Joel and Ellie.
 

Stark

Banned
Ish would not have. His story was apart of the sewers to- what I felt- was just build the world and show that there are people who have gone through worse. It would ruin any feeling from going through that segment if they tried to make it into a playable segment.

There were far better places to take the DLC and what Left Behind is doing is definitely one of them.

That said, I think Ellie is the best character in TLOU so I may be a bit biased. Pandering? wat.
 
Blasphemy.

But yeah, I loved Ellie - she's my favorite in the game. :p The part where
you play as her is my favorite part in the entire game - that chapter was pretty much perfection how you went back and forth between Joel and Ellie.

i loved that part as well, game design wise. just the character i don't like :p

That said, I think Ellie is the best character in TLOU so I may be a bit biased. Pandering? wat.

i meant that she felt like a calculated and cynical effort to try and make players feel for her.. like, "hey! let's use a little girl to manipulate the emotions of players, so easy!"

i might be wrong and they just genuinely wanted to make a little girl character, but nevertheless i felt like that during the game. i would've been more impressed if i was escorting an elderly person throughout the game and they managed to make me feel like he/she is worth fighting for (let's say Joel and his dad, that would have been so much more awesome and unique to me).. a little girl is just too damn easy and too obvious. and they try SO hard to make her a badass and non-cliche and whatever that it just comes off as.. trying too hard.
 

Sorian

Banned
I saw this when the news dropped but I haven't put my two cents in. What a waste of SP DLC. I'm sure it'll be fun and bring the feels but they are just going over a story that many of us have seen already. Not saying I wanted Ish either but at least that would have been new and fresh and something that we would have known the ending of but not the journey. Between this and the announcement for anotehr uncharted, I am disappoint ND.
 

Empty

Member
i might be wrong and they just genuinely wanted to make a little girl character, but nevertheless i felt like that during the game. i would've been more impressed if i was escorting an elderly person throughout the game and they managed to make me feel like he/she is worth fighting for (let's say Joel and his dad, that would have been so much more awesome and unique to me).. a little girl is just too damn easy and too obvious. and they try SO hard to make her a badass and non-cliche and whatever that it just comes off as.. trying too hard.

i kind of feel like your two points contradict. to me the effort to make ellie an often annoying but realistic regular teenager with all the swearing and wannabe badassness is what made it feel not pandering. pandering to me would be a completely adorable innocent little girl with no nuances or flaws, there solely for the player to feel empathy towards as you move through hostile world. the more nuanced characterization, i mean there's moments of innocence and vulnerability but there's plenty of other stuff too, felt like they escaped the feeling of being lazy and easy with the set up.
 

Stark

Banned
Unless they are retconning the comics, they don't have much wiggle room. Certainly not enough for me to be super interested.

It's a sequel to the comics. Don't think there will be any retconning either:

That'll just give you more insight into their relationship, but this takes place after the comic. There's a gap between the ending of the comic and the start of TLoU.

Basically what SolidSnakeX said -- takes place after the comics and before the main TLOU campaign. So reading the comics, it'll give you some background on location, setting, Riley, and how they got to know each other.

I can totally understand about not being interested enough though.
 
I'm so excited for this. I bought the Season Pass for this and the documentary, so I'm glad to hear it's 15 bucks. Validates my impulse purchase a little. I'm sure it will be excellent though.
 

foxtrot3d

Banned
Eh, I'm not too excited about this DLC. I would have preferred some post-end game content or a side story involving a different set of characters beyond Joel/Ellie. What makes me even less exciting for this DLC is the fact that #1 We know pretty much what is going to happen and how it will end and #2 Ellie can't shoot or kill things really.

From the main game it was made pretty apparent that Ellie never really shot a gun consistently until she met Joel, she's also never killed a person until meeting Joel either. Whether or not she kills infected is another thing but considering her small frame she would have to do it with a weapon which again would be inconsistent with the main game.

I guess I'll see.
 

Cloudy

Banned
Listening to the OST right now. Hoping to hear more great music in LB

Can't wait!!!

OMG @ new music by Gustavo fucking Santaolalla. His work on TLoU was fantastic.

I'm probably going to replay TLoU after finishing this DLC.

OMG!
 

mechphree

Member
Playing as Ellie.

I'm so excited.

I'm assuming it's based on the pre-release comic that I actually just got in the mail today. Could not be better timing.

EDIT: Prequel.

Early 2014 Release.

Story from The Last of US: American Dream.



Trailer.



From PS Blog:


Yaani King (Actress of Riley)
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Fantasticly sharp eye's from Mix of TLoU being spotted in PS4 promo video. I hope he's right.

2:25

If I'm overstepping my bounds by having Mix's post discovery in here, please by all means, let me know and I'll delete it.


Mixed feelings about this. We all know what happens to Ellie's friend....kinda wished they went back with Joel a few years after the outbreak.
 
Eh, I'm not too excited about this DLC. I would have preferred some post-end game content or a side story involving a different set of characters beyond Joel/Ellie. What makes me even less exciting for this DLC is the fact that #1 We know pretty much what is going to happen and how it will end and #2 Ellie can't shoot or kill things really.

From the main game it was made pretty apparent that Ellie never really shot a gun consistently until she met Joel, she's also never killed a person until meeting Joel either. Whether or not she kills infected is another thing but considering her small frame she would have to do it with a weapon which again would be inconsistent with the main game.

I guess I'll see.

There doesn't have to be any killing. This could primarily be a stealth based DLC and that would be great...
 

leng jai

Member
Not sure about this timing. Not a fan of DLC that takes almost a year after the initial game to release. I wonder how many people won't be buying it simply because they no longer own or have a PS3 hooked up?
 

Stark

Banned
Not sure about this timing. Not a fan of DLC that takes almost a year after the initial game to release. I wonder how many people won't be buying it simply because they no longer own or have a PS3 hooked up?

A lot more PS3's will be hooked up than PS4/XO owners. That full transition will take time and this is probably going to release in January.
 

Morrigan Stark

Arrogant Smirk
Not sure about this timing. Not a fan of DLC that takes almost a year after the initial game to release. I wonder how many people won't be buying it simply because they no longer own or have a PS3 hooked up?
Who the hell would be stupid enough to sell a great console with a gigantic library of awesome games like the PS3 just to buy one that barely has any interesting games yet and is likely to be plagued with early-gen hardware faults? xD This is like bitching you won't be able to play Chrono Trigger because you already sold your SNES and imported the newfangled PS1 and somehow it's the dev's fault.

And who the hell prefers early DLC rather than late? The whole point of DLC is to have content that they create after releasing the full game, otherwise, might as well include it in the original game. Like the ever-wonderful on-disc DLC (yeah, fuck you Capcom), or crappy tacked-on DLC that took barely any time to make and can be finished in two hours (coughGearsofWarcough). Would you prefer that?

Oh and lol @ "almost a year", on what planet? Game came out in June FFS. -_-
 
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