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PS5 embargo lifts today (06/11/20) MEGATHREAD

Nikana

Go Go Neo Rangers!
Both companies are releasing their new consoles within the same window so comparisons are inevitable.

What's also inevitable is the fact that the individuals with the most affinity to a particular platform will be given that platform to review. So the person more familiar with Xbox will get given the series X to review and the person more familiar will PlayStation gets given the PS5 to review.

It's then up to you to decide if the positives/negatives in the respective reviews matter to you or not. Just because a console review is positive about Xbox or positive about PlayStation (while drawing comparisons to the competition) it doesn't make it a "console warrior review".

If you can't speak about the product in a positive light without having to compare it to the other product it doesn't paint the picture I should take this review for being fair.

Its also, imo, a dumb way to review a product that will change overtime. Its not like a blender where you can compare 4 models and go over pros and cons and that won't change.


I never said it wasn't inevitable or that people weren't going to do it. But there are plenty of people who review products without the viewpoint of having to compare it to the competition many times.

I have no idea if the reviewer is a console warrior. I said it simply comes off like one.
 

ManaByte

Rage Bait Youtuber
So only a single game in Quick Resume. Bummer.

from the review:

The PlayStation 5 is able to quick resume a game if you turn it off and come back to it later. Although the Switcher icon that some noticed on the Home menu is basically just a history button, showing you the last few games or apps that you used and starting them up from scratch if you want to play them again.

Such a lastgen OS.

That can't be real, can it? The PS4 is able to resume a game that's suspended.
 

kruis

Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
The review says that there's quick resume for only one game at a time. Seems that it doesn't have quick resume at atll. Pretty remarkable for Microsoft.

I wonder how useful Quick Resume really is when your games library is mostly non-digital. You'd still need to switch the game disc first before you can launch a game. That will kill the usefulness of a Quick Resume function. Besides that, you'ld still be able to start playing the game a few seconds after launching it.
 
ps5-is-hot.jpg
Cutting off half the information to twist the context seriously should be bannable....

ps5-bestbuy.jpg


a pc in a closed case with no airflow overheats....who would have thought......
 
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GymWolf

Gold Member
Yeah i guess that some comparions with sex are gonna be found in almost every review, it's normal when they launch so closely to each other.
 

Drewpee

Banned
I wonder how useful Quick Resume really is when your games library is mostly non-digital. You'd still need to switch the game disc first before you can launch a game. That will kill the usefulness of a Quick Resume function. Besides that, you'ld still be able to start playing the game a few seconds after launching it.

Why do Sony fans do this? As soon as they realize PS might not have a feature it becomes unnecessary and useless. Instead of pushing Sony to do better PS fans have a TERRIBLE habit of making excuses for them.

Behavior like that is how you get an expansion like Mile Morales sold as a standalone game.
 
Sounds solid.
Looking forward to real life impressions with the Dual Sense controller at friends places who preordered a PS5.
 

TheDude108

Member
Why do Sony fans do this? As soon as they realize PS might not have a feature it becomes unnecessary and useless. Instead of pushing Sony to do better PS fans have a TERRIBLE habit of making excuses for them.

Behavior like that is how you get an expansion like Mile Morales sold as a standalone game.

Tbh I had never thought of that issue with having to insert the discs. I don't think that post was a troll/bait to Xbox users, it seems like a genuine concern of how the Quick Resume function will actually work in practice.
 

Maxwell Jacob Friedman

leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
The PlayStation 5 is an impressive console and while many of its features, such as fast loading and the ability to run games at native 4K or 60fps, are replicated by the Xbox Series X the superior games line-up and the new features of the DualSense stand above anything Microsoft is offering so far.

And thats how you sell a console and start a generation
 

MiguelItUp

Member
Comes off like a console warrior review but there's some good info in there.

No noise is a fantastic confirmation.
Wholeheartedly agree. Reading it had moments of, "I get it, calm down, chill", and I'm no fanboy of either side, lol.

The no noise thing really is the biggest take away for me from this. That's pretty wild. I hope it stays that way!
 

Blue Spring

Read my tears about xbox here --->

this is disappointing.
A major point of the PS5 is the use of the fast I/O. Having games played of a slow HDD would make no sense.
Edit: Just saw its about storing and not about playing them of the HDD. Thats definitely weird.
 
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TonyK

Member
So only a single game in Quick Resume. Bummer.

from the review:

The PlayStation 5 is able to quick resume a game if you turn it off and come back to it later. Although the Switcher icon that some noticed on the Home menu is basically just a history button, showing you the last few games or apps that you used and starting them up from scratch if you want to play them again.

Such a lastgen OS.
Ohhhh it was my most wanted feature for next gen 😭

My plan was Ps5 for multis (because I come from my PS4 library) and Sony exclusives, and XseX for Microsoft exclusives. Thinking on switching that plan now 🤔
 

Tschumi

Member
I posted on another thread about a ps5 review and was warned about console warring.. i don't understand

Anyway, I've been super excited for this stuff to start coming, thanks Cormack
 

Darklor01

Might need to stop sniffing glue
Cutting off half the information to twist the context seriously should be bannable....

ps5-bestbuy.jpg


a pc in a closed case with no airflow overheats....who would have thought......

I think that looks like the Walmart kiosks that I've seen images about recently on Twitter. Some pics of it being unboxed. Also, the hangar tags to the left look like Walmart ones. My local Walmart doesn't have a game section big enough for one of these and has never had running demo kiosks. :(
 
So only a single game in Quick Resume. Bummer.

from the review:

The PlayStation 5 is able to quick resume a game if you turn it off and come back to it later. Although the Switcher icon that some noticed on the Home menu is basically just a history button, showing you the last few games or apps that you used and starting them up from scratch if you want to play them again.

Such a lastgen OS.

Why do Sony fans do this? As soon as they realize PS might not have a feature it becomes unnecessary and useless. Instead of pushing Sony to do better PS fans have a TERRIBLE habit of making excuses for them.

Behavior like that is how you get an expansion like Mile Morales sold as a standalone game.

Because people can still enjoy from the games and dont see it as 100% necessary feature?

And explain why isnt it correct to say that quick resume for multiple games is 100% useless if gamer uses discs?

1 game in quick resume is enough for many, so more than 1 would be a bonus but doesnt add much in regular basis.

And it all spoils to this:

is the real reason why xbox "Quick resume" is needed because SSD is too slow to load games from zero super fast?

The question is: do PS5 games take ~same time to load from zero than xbox games from quick resume?

YES = then PS5 users get similar loading times for their digital games, than xbox gamers with quick resume = its a tie

NO = then PS5 users get longer loading times for their digital gamers, than xbox gamers with quick resume = xbox gamers "win"

if it is even faster on PS5 from zero to game = ps5 gamers "win"



If it is still under a minute on either system = all gamers win :messenger_smirking:
 
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I think that looks like the Walmart kiosks that I've seen images about recently on Twitter. Some pics of it being unboxed. Also, the hangar tags to the left look like Walmart ones. My local Walmart doesn't have a game section big enough for one of these and has never had running demo kiosks. :(
according to the source it`s Best Buy.


Big brain time here running a unit of what`s essentially a PC in a closed case......
 
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Darklor01

Might need to stop sniffing glue
A major point of the PS5 is the use of the fast I/O. Having games played of a slow HDD would make no sense.
Edit: Just saw its about storing and not about playing them of the HDD. Thats definitely weird.

Hmmm, that's kind of crazy. I mean, for now we don't have a list of supported NVME drives, and the system has that option disabled for now anyway, AND, you can't swap PS5 games on and off the internal drive/external drive for storage. Storage is pretty limited. I hope they solve both of these things soon.
 

kruis

Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Why do Sony fans do this? As soon as they realize PS might not have a feature it becomes unnecessary and useless. Instead of pushing Sony to do better PS fans have a TERRIBLE habit of making excuses for them.

Behavior like that is how you get an expansion like Mile Morales sold as a standalone game.

I'm not saying Quick Resume is unnecessary or useless. I'm just saying it's not as convenient when you often buy games on disc. Even though every game runs completely from HD, the game disc is required to launch the game. Quick Resume will be a much better experience when you're digital only.
 

Rolla

Banned
The PlayStation 5 is an impressive console and while many of its features, such as fast loading and the ability to run games at native 4K or 60fps, are replicated by the Xbox Series X the superior games line-up and the new features of the DualSense stand above anything Microsoft is offering so far.

IP will be the only thing that translates.

Not power. Not the SSD. Not what your favourite CEO said. Not the form factor. Not VRS, Raytracing, or Backwards comparability. The only thing that the wider gaming public is going to see is next gen games. And they will gravitate towards whatever platform they deem to be making the best next gen argument via games
 

Drewpee

Banned
I'm not saying Quick Resume is unnecessary or useless. I'm just saying it's not as convenient when you often buy games on disc. Even though every game runs completely from HD, the game disc is required to launch the game. Quick Resume will be a much better experience when you're digital only.

I understand what you mean and my comment was a little flippant because what you mentioned is legitimate.

it just seems like everytime we learn of a feature that Sony might not have, it all of a sudden becomes a useless feature that wasn't needed anyway. I think that type of behavior is bad for all gamers and try to call it out when I see it, but your post didn't deserve such a petty response.
 

chonga

Member
That can't be real, can it? The PS4 is able to resume a game that's suspended.
There's no real technical reason it can't be done, except for wanting to prioritise implementing other features first or considering it to be a waste of storage space given how quickly games can load anyway and that they have the ability to load you into a specific part of the game directly from the menus. In other words is it worth saving 5 seconds at the cost of 10s of GBs of storage being lost. Probably not.
 

MrFunSocks

Banned
There's no real technical reason it can't be done, except for wanting to prioritise implementing other features first or considering it to be a waste of storage space given how quickly games can load anyway and that they have the ability to load you into a specific part of the game directly from the menus. In other words is it worth saving 5 seconds at the cost of 10s of GBs of storage being lost. Probably not.
I don’t think you understand the point of quick resume if you think that having some quick load spots is the same thing.

this is a big L for the PS5 in terms of OS features.
 

Smoke6

Member
Solid review. I don’t think anyone is disputing the PS5 has a stronger exclusive catalog lineup (atm and likely over the course of the generation), either—or at least no one that isn’t a diehard fangirl for team X. I’m far more curious about the multiplat comparisons, though, since that’s essentially all I play.
You don’t read many threads here do you? Like anytime that’s mentioned all hell breaks loose
 

Drewpee

Banned
Because people can still enjoy from the games and dont see it as 100% necessary feature?

And explain why isnt it correct to say that quick resume for multiple games is 100% useless if gamer uses discs?

1 game in quick resume is enough for many, so more than 1 would be a bonus but doesnt add much in regular basis.

And it all spoils to this:

is the real reason why xbox "Quick resume" is needed because SSD is too slow to load games from zero super fast?

The question is: do PS5 games take ~same time to load from zero than xbox games from quick resume?

YES = then PS5 users get similar loading times for their digital games, than xbox gamers with quick resume = its a tie

NO = then PS5 users get longer loading times for their digital gamers, than xbox gamers with quick resume = xbox gamers "win"

if it is even faster on PS5 from zero to game = ps5 gamers "win"



If it is still under a minute on either system = all gamers win :messenger_smirking:

Ok
 

Aion002

Member
Cutting off half the information to twist the context seriously should be bannable....

ps5-bestbuy.jpg


a pc in a closed case with no airflow overheats....who would have thought......
I was having a nice time reading the PS5 BC thread.... Then seeing this image:


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What kind of monster would that with a video game.... :messenger_fearful:
 
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