The Chosen One
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Sounds like Bron Bron went all Emo in the presser. :lol
Maybe you'll have better luck next year Lebron. But probably not...
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Sounds like Bron Bron went all Emo in the presser. :lol
Maybe you'll have better luck next year Lebron. But probably not...
Andre didn't outplay Lebron though. There's a reason Lebron, who played on the opposite losing team, got 4 FMVP votes instead of the regular season MVP that played on the winning team.
Andre was a great primary defender on lebron and was consistently the best player on the winning team. That's why he is FMVP. This is similar to Kahwai last year, even though his case was much stronger.
Spoiler Alert: Mike and Mike have some stiff competition with you two dropping hot takes like those.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
If anybody can find a screencap of the guy holding the big head of Stephen Curry wearing the Ultimate Warrior facepaint, that would be great.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Iggy really got MVP, way to put the exclamation point on what a joke of a series this was NBA. Bravo
It was actually a lot better than they could've ever hoped for. They fact they pulled the ratings they did with two allstars missing from one team is very impressive.
The best move the warriors made last off season that lead to this title is not trading their whole team for Kevin Love. If they would have made that trade they would have been second round at best because their defense would not have been no where near as good and their offense would also suffer since they wouldn't have the ball movers and overall shooting.
Draymond is truly a double edged sword type of player and that showed this series.
Draymond is truly a double edged sword type of player and that showed this series.
SlackAdjuster
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I don't really understand the Iggy MVP either. LeBron's shot has been down pretty much the entire playoffs, I don't see it as him or anyone else "shutting him down". The guy damn near averaged a triple double. I don't care how many shots he took. He had to.
I'm not putting in a vote for LBJ - Even as a Cle fan, I'm not a big fan of giving someone the FMVP on a losing team. I'd have 0 problems with giving it to Curry.
Fuckin' Cleveland man...it's ALWAYS something. Make it to the NBA Finals! Have 2 all-stars injured!
...yup. Cleveland.
I'm not putting in a vote for LBJ - Even as a Cle fan, I'm not a big fan of giving someone the FMVP on a losing team. I'd have 0 problems with giving it to Curry.
Fuckin' Cleveland man...it's ALWAYS something. Make it to the NBA Finals! Have 2 all-stars injured!
...yup. Cleveland.
Why would you give a loser an mvp trophy? How does that make sense?
Kerr started Iggy and they won 3 straight games. He was the difference maker in the series. Before game 4 GSW struggled and Curry wasn't consistent enough to take mvp. Iggy makes the most sense out of everyone.
Basileus777
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Iggy winning and LeBron getting 2nd place are things that should be mutually exclusive considering Iggy's claim to the award is how inefficient he made LeBron. Either LeBron was historically amazing enough to deserve it despite losing or Iggy was amazing for how he defended him, both can't be true. I'd be more sympathetic to Iggy if he hadn't been left uncovered much of the series and missed 40 free throws.
But really Curry should have won, but drawing constant double teams at the three point line and creating 4 vs 3 opportunities is not something the media appreciates. Even Zach Lowe got sucked into the media narrative.
Uno Venova
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How a player starting completely changing a series doesn't warrant and MVP trophy boggles the mind, it really is all bout stats with some people, you would think Westbrook got a better rep this season.
reggieandTFE
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Not to take away from how well he played but Jimmy Butler limited him to 33% in the Bulls series.
Basileus777
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He struggled against Carroll too. LeBron scored inefficiently for most of the postseason. For all of the media narrative, this wasn't one of his top 5 postseason runs.
reggieandTFE
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Huh? There's no guarantee Wade or Dragic are even coming back and they couldn't play .500 ball when they were on the court this year. Washington, Milwaukee, Atlanta and Chicago are all clearly still head and shoulders above Miami.
SlackAdjuster
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Go back and read the entirety of what I wrote, please. People so quick to jump off lol.
I did. You said you don't understand the Iggy mvp. I explained it to you. He was the only that made sense. Everyone else doesn't deserve it. Curry was inconsistent and Lebron was on the losing team.
Exploratory
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diffusionx
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I am glad Igoudala won but I've seen people play a lot worse than Curry and win MVPs. The only truly bad game Curry had was game 2. He murdered the Cavs in games 1, 4, and 5 and the way he absorbed double teams and passed kept the offense moving in game 6.
Future PhaZe
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pretty sure brons shot chart against non iggy defenders was substantially better
I also think Curry should win FMVP too, Stats still much superior than Iggy and no matter how "struggling" he is.. offense always started with him.
Like tonight game despite stat, I thought this is best Curry performance to me.. he throwing Cavs defense off balance all night long with his pass over Cavs trap and double team.
Like tonight game despite stat, I thought this is best Curry performance to me.. he throwing Cavs defense off balance all night long with his pass over Cavs trap and double team.
Dragon will be back. Wade might not. Last year was a weird one. Wade was injured all the time, Bosh was nursing injuries up until the clots, and we had the single worst PG rotation in the league. For a handful of hours following the Dragon trade, Miami had legit title dreams. With Whiteside and Bosh, we present interesting matchup problems for teams. Hassan's development this summer is also going to be important.
I expect us to be a contender in the East next year. And after setting ATL crap itself this postseason, I'm not sure how they'll bounce back next year. PEACE.
Basileus777
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You can't expect the media to appreciate this. It's all about the narrative to them. Even guys like Zach Lowe that understand X and Os got suckered into it.
Most people only look at stats. They don't realize that curry was picking apart the cavs defense which lead to most of iggys wide open shots. In the end tho I'm happy for iggy. He brought it on both ends of the court and finally got some recognition.
Yeah.. I thought Bron also playing really bad game tonight too, so with game 4.. its 2 bad game, that I don't think helping the narrative.
Yeah I'm happy for Iggy, but the amount of people that gonna use this to disrespect Curry gonna made me sad.
I'm sure that mvp trophy and Larry o'brian trophy helps him sleep at night.
diffusionx
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Yea I am disappointed Lowe picked James.
Forceatowulf
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Really happy Iggy won FMVP. Dude was consistent as fuck. And his defense was fantastic.
I have a little more respect for LeBron after these finals honestly. Motherfucker was dragging his team to victories and was a monster most nights. Love him or hate him, the dude can fucking ball...
With that being said..... 2 out of 6 in the finals, bruv? Ahahahahaha. "GOAT" my ass.
You ain't no GOAT when you've hung more finals L's than finals banners. Sorry.
I have a little more respect for LeBron after these finals honestly. Motherfucker was dragging his team to victories and was a monster most nights. Love him or hate him, the dude can fucking ball...
With that being said..... 2 out of 6 in the finals, bruv? Ahahahahaha. "GOAT" my ass.
You ain't no GOAT when you've hung more finals L's than finals banners. Sorry.
I like Iguodala getting it, but Curry definitely could have won also. He averaged 26, 5 and 6 for the series. Pretty solid.
Love Iggy, love the story line and I'm super happy for him. But, without Curry the Warriors are swept in the finals (and don't even make it there to begin with). His mere presence alters the entire defensive landscape on every possession. Teams compromise themselves unlike anything they have to do with other players in the league. Oh yeah, Curry had a pretty good series as well even if he never went nuclear for an entire game.
Liquidsnake
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I have a few things to say.
Lebron is 2-4 in the finals, and hes lucky, as it was sooooooooo close to 1-5.
I think he is a good all around player, I give him a lot of credit for playing the right way, but I don't think he is the King of anything. He need to have an Allstar supporting cast to have success. Guess what? next year he will be 1 year older. I can see him making the finals again, but his window is not going to last for ever, and his jump shot while nice at times, is not going to get better at 34.
Now I am not going lie, I am not a fan of his, never have been. I appreciate those who earn their greatness,, and are not anointed "Kings" take for example Kobe Bryant, who was drafted as an unknown, an unproven commodity, yet worked his craft into 5 rings. I have a lot of respect for Time Duncan.
Lebron for what ever reason is looked at as the best player in history, I do not agree nor understand that at all. Don't think I ever will. Perhaps the later generations will not look at him with rose colored glasses and instead will call him for what he is/was. A good player who got to the finals several times and lost a bunch of times, a guy who had to be carried by Wade to two rings. If he doesn't have a killer on his team, he can't win. His jump shot wont allow him to.
Lebron is 2-4 in the finals, and hes lucky, as it was sooooooooo close to 1-5.
I think he is a good all around player, I give him a lot of credit for playing the right way, but I don't think he is the King of anything. He need to have an Allstar supporting cast to have success. Guess what? next year he will be 1 year older. I can see him making the finals again, but his window is not going to last for ever, and his jump shot while nice at times, is not going to get better at 34.
Now I am not going lie, I am not a fan of his, never have been. I appreciate those who earn their greatness,, and are not anointed "Kings" take for example Kobe Bryant, who was drafted as an unknown, an unproven commodity, yet worked his craft into 5 rings. I have a lot of respect for Time Duncan.
Lebron for what ever reason is looked at as the best player in history, I do not agree nor understand that at all. Don't think I ever will. Perhaps the later generations will not look at him with rose colored glasses and instead will call him for what he is/was. A good player who got to the finals several times and lost a bunch of times, a guy who had to be carried by Wade to two rings. If he doesn't have a killer on his team, he can't win. His jump shot wont allow him to.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
lol:
Lets not forget this speech from Kerr
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s0e6npgMHJo
His legend continues to grow
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s0e6npgMHJo
His legend continues to grow
God damn Time Duncan is the best unintentional misspelled nickname ever.
Parmadillo Marshmallow
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Play of the game? Curry double teamed finding Klay on the opposite side of the court for a wide open 3. Magical.
eBay Huckster
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I'm assuming Wade/Dragic both come back, that Chicago loses a step, that Atlanta falls apart again for a reason other than the NYPD, and that Washington doesn't make any major roster upgrades until 2016-17
(all of this except the first thing are perfectly reasonable)
I thought for sure the Knicks would give him $4-5MM if he kept it up.
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
It's crazy to think that the Heat have yet to play their ideal starting lineup even once last season. We never got to see what a Wade/Dragic/Whiteside/Bosh/Deng lineup would look like, not even one time. Goddamn injuries.
They coud've done some real dirt this offseason given how weak the east was. sigh
They coud've done some real dirt this offseason given how weak the east was. sigh
SomewhatGroovy
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Simple: it's called irrational hate. His statistics explain and back his greatness. They're there for you to explore and to help understand, not for you to blindly ignore, along with the other metrics you willfully neglect, to fit your narrative. Otherwise...
elrechazado
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True if your only metric of success is efficiency. Which would be insane.
Skellig Gra
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Basketball is a team sport. If Jordan was on the Nets he would have 0 rings. Lebrons talent is undeniable despite people attempting to nitpick.
I think 2012 Lebron was my favorite run of his. Just lazer focus. This is the most heart I've seen from him, but he looked mentally beaten the last two games. And not a huge deal, everyone else felt the same about the Cavs but just seemed obvious. Kobe's personality would be more desperate than that, trying to make amazing shots. Lebron kind of looked like a chess player running out of moves to make. Felt bad for him.
Hopefully Cleveland gets a 100% healthy run next postseason. I think them running on all cylinders was something everyone wanted to see these playoffs, when they put it all together.
Hopefully Cleveland gets a 100% healthy run next postseason. I think them running on all cylinders was something everyone wanted to see these playoffs, when they put it all together.
Yeah, this is definitely not Lebron's best postseason run. I mean the fact that he took his team as far as he did is pretty amazing, but just going by his play alone he's been even better multiple times before.
I wonder how many years Lebron has left in his prime. He already has 12 seasons under his belt, numerous deep runs into the playoffs and multiple off-seasons filled with international competition.
I wonder how many years Lebron has left in his prime. He already has 12 seasons under his belt, numerous deep runs into the playoffs and multiple off-seasons filled with international competition.
Liquidsnake
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Is he 31 or 32 now?
SomewhatGroovy
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I understand why this question would come up but, when we have a dude like Duncan winning a trophy at 39, it shows that there is still a lot of career left if he wants it. The question will be around his willingness to adapt and shift his role as he continues. He can't keep doing what he's been doing forever but that, in and of itself, doesn't draw a straight line as to whether he wins more rings or not.
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